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DBD 2.8.10 Better know a Bear

So, how about that Super Bowl? Good times. Good commercials.  We should probably have a discussion about them.  But alas, we will save it for another day.

Instead, let us all turn our attention towards, in my humble opinion, the best bear to ever walk southeast Asia.  The Sun Bear.

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via www.jennifermarohasy.com

 

After the jump... more awesome pictures and a short discussion of the noble sun bear.

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The noble creature, at about 1.5m, is the smallest of the family ursidae, and arguably, the most awesome.

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via www.bearsoftheworld.net

 

They are smart: They climb trees to sleep in and even go through the trouble of making sleeping platforms in order to rest more comfortably.  They are sensual: they have long tongues (about 9 inches) to more effectively eat honey, small vertebrates, insects, fruit, eggs, etc.  And, they are ever watchful: they don’t hibernate, meaning they can make sweet baby bears 24-7-365.

They also have this really tight patch of orange fur on their chest that gives them their name.  Sun bears are also called honey bear and dog bear.  Malaysians call them “he who likes to sit high”.

Coolest thing? Their skin around their neck is loose enough that if bitten, they can turn their head around and bite their attacker. Second coolest thing? They walk on their hind legs carrying babies around!

Are Golden Bears sun bears? No, but you know what, they are cool enough to remember.  Can you liken any current or former Cal athletes to the noble and wonderful sun bear?

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Poll
What is your favorite Bear?
The Golden Bear
35 votes
The Grizzly Bear
4 votes
The Sun Bear
7 votes
The Panda Bear (it isn't a bear... it's dumb)
2 votes
Moosecock
3 votes

51 votes | Poll has closed

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And the first one, who is trying to guess, asks “Is it bigger than this?” while gesturing with his hands a foot apart.

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 9:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Questions 2 – 20: Eh?

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

can you eat it?

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by GoldBlooded on Feb 8, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

“Er. I guess… maybe. OK, yes, you can eat it.”

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

An old man goes to the doctor and the doc asks him what’s wrong and he says “I can’t pee.” The doc asks him how old he is and he says 90 and the doctor says, “You’ve peed enough.”

by Itchy25 on Feb 8, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

My grandma used to get the sun bears in the zoo to stand upright by yelling “w00t! w00t!” and waving her arms, bless her.

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Feb 8, 2010 1:24 AM PST reply actions  

When you say stand…….

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

i <3 grandma zoonews

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Feb 8, 2010 9:36 AM PST up reply actions  

LA Times article on Cal BB commit Allen Crabbe

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-sondheimer8-2010feb08,0,371350.column

Now he has grown to 6 feet 6, makes three-point baskets as if they were free throws and has the skills to win any dunk contest. He also has a 3.5 grade-point average, has signed with California and has developed into one of the best players in the state.

“He’s a zero-maintenance kid,” Coach Michael Lynch said. “He’s constantly in the gym. I don’t ever have to think about him.”

Crabbe has always been able to shoot and score, but he grew two inches and gained 10 pounds since his junior year, and the added strength has elevated his game. He is averaging 23 points and nearly 11 rebounds in leading Price to a 22-2 record with one week remaining in the regular season.

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Feb 8, 2010 1:24 AM PST reply actions  

...and video interview as well!

Says in the interview that he’s solid with his commitment to Cal.

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Feb 8, 2010 1:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course he's a solid commit

He’s signed an LOI.

I am a Vereenian.

by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm hoping for Klay Thompson 2.0 from him

(hopefully without the horrible mid-sophomore-year shooting slump)

I know, I don’t ask for much.

Shawn Spencer: "I’m receiving a transmission from your husband. Really more of a voicemail, if I'm being honest. A status update. Perhaps a twitter."
Burton Guster: "I believe it’s called a tweet."
Shawn Spencer: "There’s no way I’m saying that."

by PaulThomas on Feb 8, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions  

What’s a Bruin, anyway?

Whose Axe?

OUR AXE!

by SoCal Oski on Feb 8, 2010 7:29 AM PST up reply actions  

False. Black bear.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 7:38 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for Office reference

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

“Mommy, why is that bear jabbing that tube through his eye? Should I jab a tube through my eye,too, mommy?”

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 7:55 AM PST up reply actions  

What type of Facebook profile photo do you have?

Daily Cal writer opines:

I don’t think anyone “wins” at profile pictures. In our Age of Irony, everything is read in quotation marks.

Holding a red cup, smiling: I’m a cool kid! Also an alcoholic.

Filters/High Contrast: I am artistic and/or blotchy.

Group photo: I have friends! Also, I do not look good up close.

Gesturing to the camera (thumbs-up, peace sign, et al.): I am fun and happy. Except I’m really not.

Flipping the bird: Eff you, but thanks for coming to this page and acknowledging I exist.

And one for the ladies-the holding of the camera at a ridiculous angle and pouting into it: Quite frankly, I don’t know what to say about this one. I don’t understand why this happens or what the appeal is, but this has become the hottest thing since taking trampy pictures in your parent’s bathroom.

I guess it’s a sexy picture, because if you’re wearing the right neckline with an angle like that, your cleavage can REALLY highlight an otherwise trite pose. This slant further deemphasizes anything you may dislike about your abdomen area.

Not smiling is also very sexy, I guess. It shows you’re serious about your cleavage.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Feb 8, 2010 2:00 AM PST reply actions  

you post a new profile picture and if no one “likes” it within 20 minutes or so, you change it. The approval of others legitimizes things. Should it?

Sadly quite true.

It’s interesting to see how many different profile pictures a person has had. Twenty? Okay, they change maybe once a month… not too bad. One? Yeah, they need a new picture. 150? They need attention. Bad.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 7:42 AM PST up reply actions  

So, you aren’t Rocks A. Dirt?

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Roxanne Dirt.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

TAKE OFF THAT RED DRESSSSSSSSSSSSS!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

No, the line is “turn on the red light”.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

We’re supposed to chant “Turn On The Red Light” at football games now? I thought we were supposed to be AGAINST red? And now you want people to turn on red lights? At Cal games?

Well, this all makes a lot of sense.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 9, 2010 7:42 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s a step in the right direction. But how many red lights do you often see around Cal sporting events?

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by TwistNHook on Feb 9, 2010 9:32 AM PST up reply actions  

how bout that huge one on the crane over the stadium?

by turkey on Feb 9, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Right, but there is one line where he just says" put on the red light" during the chorus.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I will refuse to have one negative word said against Neil Diamond. When the revolution comes, you’ll be first against the wall.

by LeonPowe on Feb 9, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I am willing to get down to Sweet Caroline and Coming to America, but every man has his limits. Trust but verify.

by DC Trojan on Feb 9, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Just stop dissing Neil Diamond’s music, and no one gets hurt.

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by BearStage on Feb 10, 2010 2:49 AM PST up reply actions  

You’d have to tunnel into my house to follow up on that. Good luck!

by DC Trojan on Feb 10, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

You’ve clearly forgotten about the Daisy Cutter that I keep handy for just such an occasion. Sure, it’s a little overkill, but it’s worth it.

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by BearStage on Feb 10, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope my neighbors have all their affairs in order!

by DC Trojan on Feb 10, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

wait a minute…

aww dammit i meant to say bunker-buster.

The joke, she is ruined.

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by BearStage on Feb 11, 2010 1:33 AM PST up reply actions  

AGREED!!!
You don’t bring me flowers…sigh…

by since1997 on Feb 10, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I actually got to see Neil in concert a couple of years ago – and he is AMAZING live. Sure, he never really SINGS anything, but its a lot of fun to attend. I grew up listening to Neil (my parents own about 300 record albums, about 270 are classical of some sort, 5 are divved up amongst Peter Paul and Mary, Carole King, Creedence Clearwater Revival and 25 are Neil Diamond albums.) so I knew every song. As did the entire crowd.

by LeonPowe on Feb 10, 2010 10:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I have had the same profile pic for more than a year I think.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Feb 8, 2010 10:27 AM PST up reply actions  

But don’t take this gentle criticism as an attack, because I don’t see a way out of the self-referential dilemma.

Too late!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Avi, you left out the best part. The title.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm… are you telling me to change my profile picture Avi? Are you calling me FAT?

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

no, the article’s author is. :)

by turkey on Feb 8, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

now YOU’RE calling me fat too aren’t you? wait. don’t answer that since you know what I actually look like now.

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

everyone is beautiful in their own way??

by turkey on Feb 8, 2010 9:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Even me?

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Even you, honey

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Feb 8, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Everytime you call me honey, it makes me hungry. For sun bear.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

rawr.

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Feb 8, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Bear steak is too gamey. Or so I have been told.

Goin' balls deep with Cal since 1972!

by Fire Starkey on Feb 8, 2010 9:58 AM PST up reply actions  

the tongue, when seasoned with honey and termites, is delicious

Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!

by GoldBlooded on Feb 8, 2010 10:02 AM PST up reply actions  

some yes. others no.

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

How often do you change your picture?

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by Fire Starkey on Feb 8, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

at least twice a day. don’t you?

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I do not have a Facebook page since I am a) over 30 b) male and C) am not a pedophile

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by Fire Starkey on Feb 8, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

just to be clear, you have to fulfill ALL of those conditions to be ineligible for Facebook right? I’m worried b/c I guess I’m technically 2 out of 3.

1) the day after my bday I technically became over thirty
2) whew not male (again girls>boys) and
3) i think pedophile is a little too harsh… i like to call it being a cougar.

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

So when you scoop up another 22 year old stud in a bar, do you yell “Cougin’ it!”?

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by Fire Starkey on Feb 8, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

do you and gf's play 'truth or cougar'?

as a drinking game….either answer the question and take shot, or go kiss a random youngster in a bar and take a shot….

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Feb 8, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions  

If so, this would automatically make you the most awesomest chick on Earth.

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by Fire Starkey on Feb 8, 2010 10:05 AM PST up reply actions  

For the sake of the internet Roxanne, I can pretend and say yes that is what we do every friday night.

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

So naturally enough...

I joke about Facebook and within just a few hours the soccer team I play on decides Facebook is the new communication medium of choice and I have to join up. Jesus.

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by Fire Starkey on Feb 8, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

I joke about Facebook and within just a few hours the soccer team I play on decides Facebook is the new communication medium of choice and I have to join up. Jesus. Zuckerberg

Fixed it

by turkey on Feb 8, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Welcome aboard, fellow creepy old man.

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Feb 8, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

An easier solution would be to stop playing soccer. Not onyl can you move wthout 500 yards of a school or place of worship, but you won’t have to play soccer anymore!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 5:53 PM PST up reply actions  

oh my word.

pounds head on desk

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Feb 8, 2010 9:43 AM PST up reply actions  

love this one too
If you feel that being half naked is an essential part of who you are, then by all means, keep doing it.

ummm… yes?

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s something I really took to heart.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

true story. I have the nightmares to prove it.

by turkey on Feb 8, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

so you have dreams about Twist?

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

pics or you’re actually extremely way too over-the-top over-dressed in all your croquet tourney photos

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 9:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude, dress code was fucking “Landed Gentry.” What did you expect???

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:57 AM PST up reply actions  

then massive fail for not rocking a cravat.

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Firstly, double breasted tweed jacket with knit skinny tie is hard to beat.

BUT

The cravat is chill. I will get one. Thanks for the sug.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

No ascot?

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Not on that particular day, no.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 9, 2010 7:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Fomer Bear Scott Fujita a Super Bowl Champion

MIAMI GARDENS, FL – Former Cal football player Scott Fujita started at linebacker and contributed four tackles for winning New Orleans in Super Bowl XLIV on Sunday. The Saints captured the first Super Bowl victory in franchise history with a 31-17 triumph over Indianapolis at Sun Life Stadium.

Fujita was the first Cal player to be a member of a winning Super Bowl team since Matt Giordano and Tarik Glenn played for an Indianapolis Colts’ squad that defeated the Chicago Bears, 29-17, in Super Bowl XLI played on Feb. 4, 2007, at Dolphins Stadium also in Miami Gardens, Fla. Fujita’s start was the first Super Bowl start by a Cal player since Glenn started at left tackle in Super Bowl XLI.

by LeonPowe on Feb 8, 2010 2:01 AM PST reply actions  

I’m very happy for Fujita. He played on four dreadful teams at Cal and his senior season was the 2001 debacle. Now he’s a Super Bowl champion.

Great shot of him on CBS on the field during the post game revelry holding his twin daughters, both of whom were wearing little “Fujita 55” jerseys.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 7:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I love Fujita ever since he wrote a letter to the Daily Cal threatening to beat up my roommate! Go Fujita Go!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Really? Tell me more!

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 9:17 AM PST up reply actions  

My roommate held upa giant sign at a Cal game requesting that Coach Thomas Holmoe be removed from his duties as head coach of the California football team in 2001. He was not quite so verbose in his language, however. Fujita was, apparently, not so pleased. He wrote a letter to the Daily Cal before the Big Game saying he hoped that guy received his karmic comeuppance. But not so non-violently.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Is Scott Fujita really a “former” Bear? I thought that when you’re a Bear, you’re a Bear all the way, from your first cigarette to your last dying day.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 9:48 AM PST up reply actions  

When you die of lung cancer? I don’t get it…

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

alas, we are males, and under 30. we instead watch facebook.

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by GoldBlooded on Feb 8, 2010 10:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I did marching band for years, of course I’ve seen West Side Story. Like three times. And every time, I wanted to give up on life. Just end my sad existence, so I wouldn’t have to see that “tough and angry” snapping in unison again.

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

I just met a Bear named Maria.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Oskette introduced me.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

In general I avoid musicals because they cause a lot of my sperm to commit suicide.

Quantity AND quantity!

by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 8, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I like the classic musicals and I was still able to reproduce. Lucky me!

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Feb 8, 2010 10:52 AM PST up reply actions  

What hurdles you have overcome! Musical theatre could take down a much lesser man!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 10:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Meiosis doesn’t count.

Quantity AND quantity!

by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 8, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve been in musicals and >>insert “sperm+your mom” joke here<<

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Zach Maynard

A feature written about him prior to the 2009 season:

Whereas Willy was renowned for his accuracy, Maynard is distinguished by his arm strength. He’s been seen at practice flinging the ball 65 yards through the uprights. At one of Maynard’s first practices, when star receiver Naaman Roosevelt asked to see his stuff, the leanly built quarterback sizzled a 15-yard pass that tore Roosevelt’s receiving gloves.

Respect instantly granted.

“I’ll tell you, watching Zach’s senior [high school] film … this guy slung it,” Taylor said. “He absolutely slung it. Guys couldn’t catch his balls. There was a tight end that he had and his brother. Those are the only guys who could catch his balls, he just had so much zip on the football.”

Combine that prodigious arm strength with dazzling 4.5 speed in the 40 and one begins to understand why Maynard was coveted by schools in the upper reaches of college football.

“If he wasn’t a late qualifier I think everybody would have been all over him, no question about it,” Taylor said. “With a strong arm like that and his ability to run, I think everybody would have been all over him. He was a late gift for us.”

http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/story/783097.html

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 5:08 AM PST reply actions  

rumors of poor academics continue to hound our purple shirted friend. One hopes it is only sour grapes from Climzun and Bama friends.

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by Fire Starkey on Feb 8, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Prediction: Maynard will get converted to WR. 6-foot-3, alleged 4.5 speed, 500 yards on the ground last year.

by Tedfordisgod on Feb 8, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Thank you, John McLaughlin.

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Not so sure about this, I am sure he came here because he wanted to be a QB, there may have been promises made that he could compete for the position. Tedford is a coach of his word.

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah? Then why hasn’t he called me back after last Saturday night then?!

/Twist

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Even I wouldn’t believe that Coach Tedford would ever call me back. FAIL

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Go hard or go home

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

the leanly built quarterback sizzled a 15-yard pass that tore Roosevelt’s receiving gloves.

Bulls***.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 1:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Should Tedford coach more like Sean Payton?

A Bear Insiderer ponders.

Pure and simple, the Saints didn’t play like a typical NFL “play not to lose” team. 4th and goal go for it instead of the field goal…and who could argue against the fact that the onside kick after the half was the turning point of the game and really gave them the big mo to win.

Now consider our fearless leader who seems to have fallen back on always, always playing it safe. From centering licks on 3rd down to punts inside the 40 and never going for it on 4th down, JT has shown that just like the NFL he has reverted to playing not to lose.

I think he needs to think about what the Saints just showed on the biggest stage in the world: PLAT TO WIN and you will, play not to lose and you will do that also.

I hope the lesson sinks in if JT was watching.

Just for the record, I disagree with this line of thinking. Mostly because it’s stupid.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Feb 8, 2010 5:10 AM PST reply actions  

I usually don’t like to point out typos (I understand they happen sometimes), but at the most important part in big cap letters

PLAT TO WIN

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 5:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I often Pleat To Not Lose. That’s why I have such terrible pants.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 7:59 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

To pleat really is to lose. Flat front, all the way.

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 10:24 AM PST up reply actions  

I PLEAT TO WIN!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s why we wear the pants!!!

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

What if Tedford secretly wants us to lose?

by LeonPowe on Feb 8, 2010 5:36 AM PST up reply actions  

What if Tedford is a sex robot sent back in time to make one lady lucky??

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

and who could argue against the fact that the onside kick after the half was the turning point of the game and really gave them the big mo to win.

That’s actually arguable. Even though the Saints capitalized on the onside kick to score a TD, the Colts re-seized momentum on the ensuing drive with a TD of their own.

Sean Payton made ballsy calls last night, no question. The onside kick was especially ballsy. (Imagine if it didn’t work, which could have very easily happened given Hank Baskett’s great chance to catch the kick and then the scrum for the ball that ensued. Manning would’ve had a short field to work with.) Truth be told, I disagreed with the decision to go for it on 4th and goal, but even that worked out for the Saints after they got the ball back and Hartley nailed the long FG right before half.

There’s a fine line between ballsy and reckless. What’s Tedford supposed to take away from last night? To get closer to that line?

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 5:44 AM PST up reply actions  

If the game had turned on a field goal, everyone would have been all over Sean Payton for not taking the points on the field goal. It’s easy to say something was the right call b/c the Saints won, but I’d be more impressed if the Saints and lost and the BI guy was still advocating his position.

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 7:07 AM PST up reply actions  

zactly.

You said it much better than I did.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 7:15 AM PST up reply actions  

The Fourth and Goal decision was correct; the playcall, in my opinion, was not.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 7:50 AM PST up reply actions  

that he was kicking the ball in the general direction of newborn parent and A-1 bonehead Hank Baskett should not be understated.

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by carp on Feb 8, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

What’s a bigger catch made by Hank Baskett? That onside kick? Or Kendra?

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 10:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Since he didn’t catch the onside kick, it’s gotta be Kendra.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

you would think, as Mr. K-Dub, that he’d be able to handle large, oblong objects like a football instead of headbutt fail.

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by carp on Feb 8, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

The game turned on the Colt’s 51-yard field goal attempt. That was a horrible decision(they should have punted), and showed that Caldwell had started to panic.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 1:09 AM PST up reply actions  

(they should have punted),
Or realised they were in four-down territory and utilised third down to gain a chunk of the yardage needed to convert in order to get a manageable fourth down (or, if enough yards were gained, to at least get within Stover’s range)

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by Rishi on Feb 9, 2010 6:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Also a possibility. Either one would have been better – but not that field goal from that distance. Certainly where the game turned.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

lol
play not to lose and you will do that also.

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by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 7:05 AM PST up reply actions  

It’s an interesting philosophy; play too aggressive (4th down calls, onside kicks) and everyone thinks you’re a knucklehead. Play too conservative and everyone thinks you have no confidence in your players/team.

Could it be that aggressive coaches (Chip Kelly, Sean Payton) will lose games playing the way they do but fans/administrators won’t care because “at least they went out with their boots on?” Playing conservative seems like it generates greater negative reactions; wins are criticized if the game is uber close and your team played conservative, and conservative-style losses are perhaps the worst way to lose a football game.

In short, what I’m trying to say is, could it be that in the eyes of fans and administrators/owners: aggressive-style L > conservative-style L; aggressive-style W > conservative-style W?

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by carp on Feb 8, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know about that Belichik (sp?) sure got a ton of grief for that 4th down call, right or wrong. But I think you have a valid point. People love a gambler.

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Hoodie made the right decision on that fourth down play. But because it failed in such spectacular fashion, it was seen as a horrible playcall.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

So what you’re saying is… Bush will be a more popular president than Obama. Because all Americans love aggression, whether or not it is successful.

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Girls like more aggressive guys whether or not they’re “successful”

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 8, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

In other words, you’re saying that if I’m inches from the goalline, I should go for it in any situation?

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

If she’s clean…

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 8, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

There’s a difference between aggressive and stupid.

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by carp on Feb 8, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

It is stupid

but on the other hand, Sean Payton’s actual decisions were most definitely NOT stupid. It had nothing to do with some pabulum about “playing to win” or “sending a message” or some bullshit— it’s mathematically provable that they were the correct plays, just as it’s mathematically provable that many of Tedford’s conservative moves (eg the field-goal-centering play) were not the correct plays.

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by PaulThomas on Feb 8, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Now that Manning lost, is Tom Brady still assuredly ahead of him in greatest QB of era?

I still put Peyton ahead of Tom, but I’m sure some here will disagree. Another Michael Silver report!

So I tracked down the man who, in my not-so-humble opinion, is the greatest of all time and asked him if he agreed that New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady(notes) was being prematurely run over and kicked to the side of the road by the Short Attention Span Overstatement Society.

"Yeah, I think it’s too early," former San Francisco 49ers and Kansas City Chiefs quarterback Joe Montana said Thursday. "This is [Manning’s] second Super Bowl, and now they’re saying if he wins he’s the greatest. Tom’s sitting there with three [rings] and he’s been in four. I think it’s hard to pick one person."

I’m with Montana. No matter how awesome Manning is on Sunday, I won’t even be ready to declare that he’s unequivocally the best of his time. I still think it’s a two-man discussion, and it won’t be settled until Manning and Brady are retired and getting asked about the great quarterbacks of the next era and beyond.

I understand the hyperbole when it comes to assessing Manning’s greatness. At 33, he is a master at the top of his game. He just won his second consecutive and record fourth overall league MVP award. He already ranks insanely high on the career lists in most significant passing categories, and given his Favresque durability, it’s likely he will own most of the important records by the time he retires.

He’s also uniquely involved in his team’s offensive scheme, a shrewd and ultra-prepared maestro with unparalleled responsibility to adjust routes and strategies at the line of scrimmage. As future Hall of Fame halfback Marshall Faulk(notes), who played with Manning in Indy in 1998, said earlier this week, "You’ll always throw the Patriots’ greatness as a team in when you’re talking about Brady. With Peyton, you’ll say he was the team."

That, as with other testimonials to Manning’s greatness, is very hard to dispute. The guy is amazing, and he is likely to keep getting better, which is scary.

Brady, however, is only 32. He plays for a great coach and the best-run organization in pro sports. Three years from now, if Brady is in possession of another Super Bowl ring – or rings – this could be a very different conversation.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Feb 8, 2010 5:26 AM PST reply actions  

What about Brock Mansion?

by LeonPowe on Feb 8, 2010 5:40 AM PST up reply actions  

PARTY YACHT FOR CANTON!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Ohio or China?

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s so good, both!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Manning

He’s going to go down in history as the greatest quarterback of all time, so I’ll remember him as being better than Brady. That’s just me, though.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:02 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I really like Peyton Manning, especially since a lot of his success is the result of his hard work in the film room and during practise, as opposed to just arm strength.

But I’d have a hard time believing he’ll go down as better than Joe Montana.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Nobody will ever go down better than Joe Montana!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

You know this from personal experience with Joe?

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Sorry – Montana was 4-for-4 in Super Bowls and helped usher in the post-modern passing game (or whatever you want to call it). Manning isn’t even clearly the best quarterback of this era – Brady still has the edge in my opinion with three super bowl wins (at least the first one of which we can give him full credit) plus the 16-0 season which was pretty sweet too. And it is not like Manning has a clear statistical edge.

by Tedfordisgod on Feb 8, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Stats and Super Bowls

Manning holds numerous NFL records and will break all of Favre’s records when Manning finally hangs ’em up.

Montana never lost a Super Bowl, sure, but I don’t hold Super Bowl titles against people. Dan Marino was better than Terry Bradshaw, but Bradshaw has the titles. Donovan McNabb is better than Trent Dilfer, but Dilfer has a title and McNabb doesn’t.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Feb 8, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

The difficulty is weighing super bowl wins vs. everything else.

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by norcalnick on Feb 8, 2010 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

or is it!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I understand football is a team sport, etc etc, but I’d have trouble giving the title of “best of all times” (as opposed to “one of the best of all time”) to a quarterback who does not have multiple Super Bowl rings. And I apply this without discrimination — Steve Young is my personal favourite football player of all time, but I can’t give him the “greatest ever” title, given that he has only one Super Bowl ring.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

So Barry Sanders and Walter Payton would not qualify as the greatest running back of all time because of their limited number of rings? Or are you specifically referencing the quarterback position?

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 8:31 AM PST up reply actions  

I am specifically talking about the Quarterback position in football. A runningback touches the ball, say, 20-30 times a game. The quarterback, even if they’re just handing off, takes almost every single snap (minus special teams and the occasional wildcat play).

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

The quarterback, even if they’re just handing off, takes almost every single snap (minus special teams and the occasional wildcat play).

Really? Tell me more.

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m just justifying my reasoning for applying this rule to QBs and not every single position. No need to be smarky.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 10:00 AM PST up reply actions  

No need to be smarky

You’re new to CGB, aren’t you?

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, it’s snarky.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 10:04 AM PST up reply actions  

snark’d!

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by GoldBlooded on Feb 8, 2010 10:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t play by anyone else’s rules.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 10:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude, I have the greatest malarky-related story ever, but I’m hesitant to tell.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Please don’t.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 10:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Please do, pretty please

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 10:22 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Steve Young is my favorite player of all time also. But I have long considered Montana the greatest QB. His 4-0 record in Super Bowls (and 3-time Super Bowl MVP) goes a long way toward that. But Montana was also an excellent regular season QB, too.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 8:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Terrible Sketchers spokesman, tho.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

He should go back to ads for LB State Volleyball.

by turkey on Feb 8, 2010 9:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that really made very little sense.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 8, 2010 10:56 AM PST up reply actions  

At least show his image!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

I think that was the point, didn’t really want lame up his image, but was happy to accept the fee.

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I think the marketing people recognized that the name “Joe Montana” carries a lot of weight, but so does lithe, firm buttcheeks. Therefore they simply wrote the name Joe Montana, plus a quote, plus nubile legs of too-in-shape people and BAM monaaaay monay monay.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 8, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

Clearly, Robert Horry is the greatest basketball player ever.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

This is an awful argument. I understand the importance of a great quarterback, but said quarterback does not coach defense and has no say in personnel decisions. The number of rings on a guys fingers has nothing to do with how great that individual player is, even if he is a quarterback. I have the same argument against the importance of wins in baseball in terms of pitching success. Totally meaningless statistic.

The really important question, in defining a quarterback’s greatness, is whether that quarterback could be successful no matter where he went, no matter what system he played in, no matter who the supporting cast. That question alone likely narrows the list down to several. And, in my opinion, it is what differentiates Manning from Brady.

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by BeastMode on Feb 8, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Cy Young told me that he regarded wins as very important to pitching success.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

oh ZHANG!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I just talked to Bert Blyleven and he thought they were toads overrated.

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Blyleven is Dutch. What does he know?

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 10:35 AM PST up reply actions  

The comfort of wooden shoes?

by Yes We Cannon on Feb 8, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

He knows a lot about playing very well for shitty teams.

And also about hookers and weed.

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 10:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, the name Blyleven does translate as “happy life” or, if you prefer, “happy living.”

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

pfffft….dutch

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by GoldBlooded on Feb 8, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

I did not know that. I always just assumed it was Dutch for “Rightful Hall-of-Famer perennially screwed by baseball writers’ stupid obsession with ‘wins’ as a meaningful statistic for pitchers, when in fact it really isn’t.”

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

No, sorry. Bert just has to settle for “happy life.”

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

There’s only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people’s cultures and the Dutch.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Hou je mond dicht.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

This is an awful argument

Tell me how you really feel.

I’m not someone who’s saying that a QB cannot be great or even “one of the greatest ever” without a ring or multiple rings. I’ll say Steve Young is one of the best of all time and I’ll agree that Dan Marino and Jim Kelley are definitely top QBs in NFL history.

However, the title of “Greatest QB ever” can only be claimed by one person and I am merely stating that I cannot agree with giving that title to a QB who only has one Super Bowl ring. Sure, the QB can’t control his receivers, his coach, his defense, etc. But I would think that the best QB of all time should be able to win more than one Super Bowl.

(And before you make the argument of Brady vs Manning, Manning won his first ring against a Rex Grossman-QB’d team in a game where he performed merely okay (Rhodes probably should have won Super Bowl MVP), while Brady won his first with a bunch of nobodies against one of the greatest offenses of all time. )

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Hmmm....

We could have a 2,000 comment discussion of “greatest” QB ever, but I think that’s too difficult to decide between different eras, different rules, etc. Just to be considered one of the greatest is probably the best way to frame the discussion.

Not to be picky, but I never was that impressed with Marino as a leader, a great passer to be sure, but I always felt there was something lacking there, a fire that Manning and Brady definitely have in spades.

Just one memory circa 1987 or so, Marino throws an interception that Kenna Turner is taking back to the house, has a perfect shot to tackle him, but instead runs out of bounds. Can you imagine Steve Young doing that? I thought not.

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Or a one comment post...

Joe Ayoob

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 10:39 AM PST up reply actions  

You think Joe Ayoob was the greatest quarterback ever?

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

EVER!!!!!!!

ok maybe Vedder…

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

We could have a 2,000 comment discussion of "greatest" QB ever, but I think that’s too difficult to decide between different eras, different rules, etc.

This’ll never get to 1,000 with that attitude!

by Yes We Cannon on Feb 8, 2010 10:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t disagree with you here. My objection is that discussions of Manning as the greatest QB of all time were already starting and I agree it’s unfair to pick a “best QB of all time” for the reasons you stated.

However, if someone were to argue a case for a particular player being the best QB of all time, then I’d have to object if the player did not win multiple titles. If you want to make the case for Otto Graham, Johnny Unitas, Joe Montana, or, ten years down the line, Tom Brady, then I can argue, but I can’t object. Obviously, this is all speculation right now — I’m sure Manning will win at least one more Super Bowl before he retires, rendering my current argument moot.

Also, let it be known that winning multiple titles is not the only criterion in this case. For instance, I’d be hard-pressed to believe that Ben Roethlisberger is the best QB of all times, even though he’s won two Super Bowls.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Wait, so 1 ring is only of dubious resumé value, but a second SB ring somehow magically imparts consideration for the “Greatest QB Ever” discussion?

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Look, it’s tough enough to deal with one HolmoePhobe. Don’t be another one here.

You’ll have no argument from me that Peyton Manning is one of the best QBs ever. However, I would personally have a tough time believing that he is THE best QB of all time without a second ring.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 11:27 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve gotta agree with atoms here, I don’t see how a 2nd Super Bowl win somehow “cements” his legacy. Even this year, the fact that he got to the Super Bowl, considering all the changes that team had, is simply incredible.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 1:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, and you won’t get a disagreement from me.

But can you, in your right mind, call a QB “the best QB of all time” if he only has one ring?

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by Rishi on Feb 9, 2010 6:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, you say that as if a QB has complete control over whether his team gets a ring or not. I’ll put it this way… Bill Russell and Wilt Chamberlain were contemporaries and both among the greatest players in history, but Bill Russell was on the better teams and he won 11 championships, whereas Wilt only won 2. You may look at that and decide that it gives the edge to Russell (which I would disagree with), but you can’t honestly make the claim that Russell was 5 times the player that Wilt was, because he has more than 5 times as many rings. That would be a dumb argument (though I’m not saying you would make that argument). My point is, I think they are pretty comparable players and you can make an argument for either, but rings alone, or even using rings as a major piece of the argument, just isn’t sufficient, because context is important. And because football has so many more players and other factors affecting team success that aren’t controlled by the quarterback (the entire defense, for example), I’d say that it’s even LESS relevant in football how many rings a player has when judging their relative worth or value. How did the player perform? What are their stats? Did they perform well in the playoffs when they had a chance? Those are the things that should be taken into account. Rings are incidental. I mean, the Super Bowl itself is just 1 game. It’s the very definition of small sample size.

by atomsareenough on Feb 9, 2010 9:35 AM PST up reply actions  

In fact, I would say that regular-season MVP awards are more telling than Super Bowl rings.

  • a) the regular season is where the vast majority of games are played;
  • b) it’s a competition among every single (offensive,non-lineman) player. The fact that Peyton Manning has been the best (offensive) player in football 4 times in only 12 years speaks volumes to his place among the greatest QB’s ever.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Peyton Manning has his own street in Knoxville!!!!!

And its called Peyton Manning Pass…

Does that constitute as greatest QB ever, couldn’t hurt right?

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s proof of him being good in college…….

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

And Jason White has his own street!

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Pat Head Summit has her own street in Knoxville, but then she got divorced. AWKWARD!!!

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Pat Summit is the greatest QB ever?

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, she’s arguably the greatest college basketball coach of all time, so that certainly counts for a lot!

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 1:47 AM PST up reply actions  

True

It really is a team game, I have a hard time viewing Roethlisberger as great QB, and I know that is a subjective evaluation.

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Since Roethiagoahiwregogn has 2 Superbowl rings, I think he has to be considered for the Greatest QB ever discussion. Him and Terry Bradshaw.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Now I know you’re kidding

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

The fact that I’m typing wearing a Chuck E Cheese monkey costume didn’t give it away?

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Can we at least nominate Terry Bradshaw for Greatest Teeth Ever?

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 8, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Roethlisberger still has time to establish himself, but even right now, I wouldn’t put him in the first tier of NFL QBs (currently occupied by Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees — worth noting, it was occupied by those three prior to this season as well).

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Somebody hates Chad Henne!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

You really suck at this, don’t you. You seem dead set on killing any and all momentum. It’s getting redick.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m pretty sure you did exactly that with your nonsense post, but that’s okay.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

This is what I did with the post. I took a situation where you said there was a certain group of QBs who are elite. I added a comment that implied Chad Henne is (or at least should be) in said group, but that you, due to your hatred for him, refused to put him in. Of course, Chad Henne is not in that group.

That opens it up for you to run with the ball in pretty much any direction that you want. Instead, you fumbled and then looking dumbstruck at me.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

Flagged for explanation.

by Yes We Cannon on Feb 8, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I felt it was a teachable moment.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Flagged for thinking you can teach Rishi.

by Yes We Cannon on Feb 8, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Flagged for dumb joke and killing actual football-related discussion.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 12:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Firstly, that was some of the finest Chad Henne-related material I’ve ever written.

Secondly, it’s really easy to switch back into serious mode. Not to easy to keep the momentm going on jokey joke mode.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Twist, you’re an idiot.

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by Rishi on Feb 9, 2010 6:20 AM PST up reply actions  

You should really hire a new writing team. Your current team of writers doesn’t have a lot of pizazz.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 9, 2010 7:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Sure, but they’re truthful, accurate, and straight to the point.

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by Rishi on Feb 9, 2010 8:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Always the hallmark of good comedy.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 9, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

are they “fair and balanced”?

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

That opens it up for you to run with the ball in pretty much any direction that you want. Instead, you fumbled and then looking dumbstruck at me.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 8, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

This is like TWSS, but times a billion!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 5:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Brady won his first with a bunch of nobodies against one of the greatest offenses of all time

Brady didn’t win that game by himself. The all-world Pats defense did the most to win that game. They punched the Rams right in the teeth from the word “go” and the Rams weren’t ready for it. The Pats defense was so tough in that game that the NFL changed the rules of contact against receivers. You shouldn’t hold the Colts’ defensive problems against Manning.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 1:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Of course the Pats had a great defense, but, come on, Brady led a good drive to close out the game with 1:30 on the clock and no timeouts. Yes, the Super Bowl MVP award is skewed to the QB (witness Peyton and Eli Manning winning the awards in consecutive years), but Brady still got the MVP award that game.

And I’m not holding the Colts’ defensive problems against Manning at all. But, come on, you can’t blame Manning’s interception in clutch on the Colts’ defense (you can blame it more on Wayne, but Manning should have never made that throw to begin with).

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by Rishi on Feb 9, 2010 6:30 AM PST up reply actions  

Brady led a good drive to close out a game, so he’s the best QB ever.

Look, I’m not saying your argument boils down to that exactly, and yes, great performance in the clutch is a worthwhile data point in the argument, but also, it’s one game.

by atomsareenough on Feb 9, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Brady led a good drive to close out a game, so he’s the best QB ever.

I never called Brady the best QB ever! Stop sticking words in my mouth!

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by Rishi on Feb 9, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t like the throw, but many sources with more acumen than I have stated that it was more about Porter reading the route and the defense calling the right coverage. So now I can’t say for sure that Peyton shouldn’t have thrown that pass. It looked like a bad decision to me, but maybe it was just too predictable.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

If you’re going to give Manning props for calling his own plays at the line, you have to give him flak when they go wrong.

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by Rishi on Feb 9, 2010 1:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t mention him calling his own plays? I’m not sure what you mean.

Anyway, I don’t actually remember if it was a set play or if Manning audibled. Either way, if the defense recognizes your play and knows what to do, you gotta give the defense their props and not simply blame the QB.

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by BearStage on Feb 10, 2010 2:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Exactly.
As future Hall of Fame halfback Marshall Faulk(notes), who played with Manning in Indy in 1998, said earlier this week, "You’ll always throw the Patriots’ greatness as a team in when you’re talking about Brady. With Peyton, you’ll say he was the team."

Also, in the “NFL Records Manning Holds” department:

Led the biggest comeback in conference championship game history (18 pts), 1/21/07 vs. New England

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 1:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Technically, he has three Super Bowl rings...

Actually, maybe not-so-technically, since he started 6 games in the two earlier seasons (and won 5 of the 6, with good performance).

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by PaulThomas on Feb 8, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the clarification, buddy.

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by Rishi on Feb 9, 2010 6:31 AM PST up reply actions  

Manning by a longshot.

Brady’s good. There’s no doubt. But he hasn’t had the career that Manning has, and I don’t think he’s better. Peyton’s got him beat on stats, durability, and longevity, and acumen. Manning is a beast, and the best QB of his generation, hands down.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 1:15 AM PST up reply actions  

See, actually, I agree that Manning is the best QB of his generation, but I don’t think it’s as cut-and-dry as you make it out to be…

Let’s let their careers play out before making these judgements.

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by Rishi on Feb 9, 2010 6:35 AM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough. My statement was a bit heavy on the hyperbole.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

THAT is the most RIDICULOUS thing I have EVER read in my ENTIRE LIFE. GOD!

Quantity AND quantity!

by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 9, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I mean c’mon!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 9, 2010 1:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Stupid Detroit Free Press link. Maybe this one will work.

carp injunction?

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 7:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Great headline in that link:
“Michigan wants Asian carp case back on Supreme Court’s menu.”

Another possibility:
“Supreme Court plays koi with Asian carp case”

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 7:20 AM PST up reply actions  

RACIST

.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:02 AM PST up reply actions  

hatters gonna hat.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Feb 8, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Tedford chat at 12:00 noon PT today

Ask your questions now

California football head coach Jeff Tedford will participate in a live chat on CalBears.com this Monday, Feb. 8. Tedford will begin answering questions from fans Monday at noon PT, but fans can begin asking questions now and we will save them for his arrival.

Cal signed 10 high school All-Americans to National Letters of Intent last Wednesday to highlight the addition of 20 student-athletes to the Cal football program for the 2010 season. Cal’s 2010 signing class ranks as high as No. 11 nationally by Rivals with the Golden Bears posting the seventh-highest Rivals ranking according to the number of average stars per signee (3.58). ESPN lists Cal at No. 15, while Scout has the Bears at No. 29.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 5:54 AM PST reply actions  

OFY!

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by carp on Feb 8, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Men's tennis team beats Hawaii
Cal 6, Hawaii 1

The California men’s tennis team defeated Hawaii, 6-1, on Sunday (Feb. 7) at the Hellman Tennis Complex as freshman Riki McLachlan maintained his perfect 5-0 record in dual singles matches to clinch the victory for the Golden Bears. Cal won the doubles point for the sixth time this season and pushed its record to 6-1 as the Rainbow Warriors fell to 5-3.

The Bears will be back in action on Feb. 20 (Sat.), as they head down the road to Stanford to face the Cardinal in a 1 p.m. PT match at the Taube Family Tennis Stadium. Please check CalBears.com for more information.

No. 35 California 6, No. 40 Hawaii 1
Hellman Tennis Complex | Berkeley, Calif.
Sunday, Feb. 7, 2010
Doubles
1. Dahan/Zerbini (CAL) def. Eberhard/Weber (UH) 8-6
2. No. 49 Andrews/Konigsfeldt (CAL) def. Rosenberg/Tweedt (UH) 8-4
3. Katsarov/McLachlan (CAL) def. Lajola/Llarenas (UH) 8-6
Order of finish: 3, 2*, 1 (California wins doubles point)
Singles
1. Pedro Zerbini (CAL) def. Dennis Lajola (UH) 6-4, 6-1
2. No. 106 Christoffer Konigsfeldt (CAL) def. Andreas Weber (UH) 1-6, 6-3, 6-2
3. Nick Andrews (CAL) def. Jeremy Tweedt (UH) 6-2, 6-2
4. Leo Rosenberg (UH) def. No. 98 Bozhidar Katsarov (CAL) 6-2, 6-2
5. Riki McLachlan (CAL) def. Philipp Eberhard (UH) 6-2, 7-5
6. Bijan Hejazi (CAL) def. Daniel Llarenas (UH) 6-1, 4-6, 6-2
Order of finish: 3, 4, 1, 5*, 6, 2

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 5:57 AM PST reply actions  

California Pizza Kitchen doesn’t allow open firearms!!????!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

rec’d for [sic] after each misspelling of Stanfurd…

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

hahaha i hadn’t noticed!! Rec’d!

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 1:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Women's gymnastics drops dual meet to Oregon State
OSU 196.375, Cal 190.100

The California Golden Bears women’s gymnastics team closed out the home portion of their 2010 schedule with a dual meet against the Oregon State Beavers. The No. 5-ranked Beavers posted a team score of 196.375 while Cal scored 190.100.

For the Bears, the top event was the floor where they earned a 48.100. Junior Avery Gee and freshman Mariesah Pierce each earned 9.80’s on their floor performances, Pierce matching her career-high on the event. Freshman Madisyn O’Brien also hit a career high with her mark, scoring a 9.625.

The vault, which has been a strong event for the team all season, was also another highlight with the team amassing a 48.075. O’Brien had another career mark, scoring a 9.775, the top grade for a Bear in the event. Freshman Arla Rosenzweig also scored a personal best, earning a 9.675.

Rosenzweig paced Cal on the bars, earning another PR with a 9.575. Freshman Stina Olivere also scored a 9.575 in the event. The beam was the weakest event for the team this meet. Sophomore Alex Leggitt had Cal’s top mark with a 9.625.

Cal had two all-around competitors with Avery Gee and Madisyn O’Brien both earning marks in all four events.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 6:05 AM PST reply actions  

Otis Yelverton

Originally I was going to compile these into a fanpost trying to sort out what type of person Otis Yelverton is, and if there was some truth to the rumors being spread around by Bama and Clemson fans. Then, I decided the best way to have the rumors disappear is by not acknowledging the rumors and letting everyone forget in a month. Anyway, if anyone is curious here is a series of links referencing or regarding Otis Yelverton (mentor to Keenan Allen, Gabe King, Chris McCain, Zach Maynard, and James Scales) and their dates:

3/12/2009 http://purdue.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=923236
6/19/2009 http://footballrecruiting.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=957496
8/24/2009 http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4419631&name=West_Recruiting
9/14/2009 http://blog.oregonlive.com/behindducksbeat/2009/09/oregon_football_could_reap_div.html
9/22/2009 http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Newest+Axeman+looks+comfortable+at+first+practice.-a0208717756
12/4/2009 http://www.nwobserver.com/articles/2009/12/04/news/doc4b1807ee49f40864555335.prt

Per the first article:

Participants are selected by Rivals.com Recruiting Analyst Mike Farrell and respected North Carolina high school coach Otis Yelverton.

But there is still some negativity surrounding Yelverton, and I honestly tried to find an article linking Yelverton to the scandal at Northern Guilford. I know for a fact, that Gabe King was ineligible to play during his senior year because of forging false documents to claim he was living within the school district. I also know for a fact, that while Yelverton was an assistant football coach at Northern Guilford, the basketball program committed several violations regarding recruiting players from other schools and using ineligible players. This scandal resulted in the loss of a state basketball championship and the forced resignations of the basketball coach, the principal, and the school’s athletic director. At this same time, Otis Yelverton’s contract was not renewed. He then became the athletics director for a local military school, and hired the scandal-ridden basketball coach. What I could not find, were reports directly linking Yelverton with any recruiting scandal. Therefore, I am unsure what to make of the situation, he could be clean yet guilty by association, or he could be guilty without enough evidence. Like I said, I don’t know. However, both rivals and espn work with Yelverton repeatedly, and Yelverton organizes events recruiting events to increase exposure for local kids. They seem to think he is okay, he also did not simply latch on to highly regarded players, he has been mentoring recruits for years.:

12/4/2009 http://www.nwobserver.com/articles/2009/12/04/news/doc4b1807ee49f40864555335.prt

The following is the only quote I found referencing Yelverton, within an article written about the scandal ridden coach.

Sources said Force is expected to offer Oak Ridge’s football job to Otis Yelverton, a nonfaculty assistant coach at Northern Guilford last year. Guilford County Schools declined to renew Yelverton’s contract for the fall. Yelverton declined to comment.

4/11/2009 http://www.news-record.com/content/2009/04/10/article/northern_ad_force_on_leave_interim_appointed

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 6:08 AM PST reply actions  

This does seem like a good fanpost. You shold put it together and post it up!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Flagged. That’s Avinash’s job.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 8:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Flagged. The more Twist works the less I have to.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Feb 8, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Flagged. The more Solarise works, the less you have to.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

his name's Otis

therefore, he’s a true American hero. Let the man live

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by carp on Feb 8, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Florida State to Vacate Wins
Florida State will vacate athletic victories from 2006 and 2007, including 12 credited to former football coach Bobby Bowden, as part of its penalty for an academic fraud scandal in 2006-07 involving 61 student-athletes, the school announced.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/news/story?id=4895204

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 6:18 AM PST reply actions  

I hate the “vacate wins” punishment.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Feb 8, 2010 10:13 AM PST up reply actions  

unless it happens to U$C… Then I will applaud it :)

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Cal would then have two undisputed unshared Pac-10 titles in the past 8 years

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 10:30 AM PST up reply actions  

But still no Rose Bowls. : (

Snobby Chick - Senior Division

by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t think any 2006 wins for SC were at risk, only 2005 and 2004.
But that begs the question: even if wins were “vacated” for 2004, does that mean Cal gets recognized as the 2004 Pac-10 champion (with, BTW, an undefeated conference record if SC has to forfeit the ’04 win)? Or does that just mean that Pac-10 championship gets “vacated” for that season?

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 10:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I think option B, no title for anyone…

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 10:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey I don’t like it either…

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

And really I was just guessing… I have zero insight into the subject…

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, it is a pathetic “punishment”.

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Feb 8, 2010 10:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I demand their punishment be receiving one hundred paper cuts on the tongue, then licking a salty lemon.

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Mmmm salty lemon.

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Feb 8, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m on my way back. Oh wait, Leon Powe is on his way back.


The fourth knee surgery of the former Celtic’s young career appears to have taken well. Now he’s back on the floor, this time as a Cleveland Cavalier, participating in 4-on-4 drills and aiming, as predicted, for a post-All-Star break return to action. Call it resolve after being rejected by the Celtics last summer, or just a natural drive to persevere, but Powe isn’t thinking twice about his latest surgery. "It’s good, real good," Powe said last week. "I’ve taken tests, and everything looks good. The way I deal with it is that I just go out there and play. I’ve had a couple of knee injuries, so it doesn’t bother me as much now to just go out there and put it to the test.

I’m . . .I mean he’s marking Feb 25th as his return to the court.

by LeonPowe on Feb 8, 2010 6:22 AM PST reply actions  

That is great news…the Cavs really do need Leon down the stretch.

by Tedfordisgod on Feb 8, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad Leon is feeling better, conflicted in only that the Cavs are good enough already without him, and I’m a Lakers fan

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I happened to be watching the Cavs on TV the other night during the stretch when Lebron scored 24 points in a row. It was unreal. I don’t watch much NBA on TV, but the Cavs looked awfully good to me.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

LeBron is a beast, to be sure

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

Sensual: pertaining to, inclined to, or preoccupied with the gratification of the senses or appetites; carnal; fleshly.
Sensuous: perceived by or affecting the senses.

They are sensual: they have long tongues (about 9 inches) to more effectively eat honey, small vertebrates, insects, fruit, eggs, etc

At first I wondered if you meant sensuous, but you’re right, it also makes sense as sensual, in that the sun bear meeting its need for honey, small vertebrates, etc., could be considered a gratification of an appetite. I think.

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 7:17 AM PST reply actions  

they also satisfy those lucky lady Sun bears with that sensually sensuous tongue of theirs

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 9:01 AM PST up reply actions  

But they won’t go down better than Joe Montana, that is for sure!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Joe Montana is a Sun Bear?

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 9:38 AM PST up reply actions  

Joe Montana definitely is a Sun Bear….

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Feb 8, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Let’s overlook my failings and just stare at the cute pictures?

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Feb 8, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like my wedding nightHIYO!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I always found pastrami to be the most sensual of the salted, cured meats.

Quantity AND quantity!

by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 8, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I flew too close to the sun on wings of pastrami

by LeonPowe on Feb 8, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Woah woah woah you guys were doing moosecock, too?? I thought what was more of an early 200s sorta thing. Hmmmm, the band continues to amaze with its traditions.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 7:54 AM PST reply actions  

Early 200s

Twist, we’re not that old.

you guys were doing moosecock, too?

Speak for yourself, you Alces pervert.

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Alces Alces!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 10:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Syd leaves the biggest shoes to fill

According to Ted Miller:

Syd’Quan Thompson, CB, California

The Cal secondary was a huge disappointment this season, but Thompson, a four-year starter and two-time first-team All-Pac-10 performer, was mostly his usual stellar self.

The Contenders: Will Darian Hagan step up his senior season? Perhaps the answer is sophomore Josh Hill? Or maybe a redsirt guy? The Bears only signed one player listed as a corner in their most recent recruiting class. Expect there to be a lot of competition here this spring.

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/7787/pac-10-biggest-shoes-to-fill-in-2010

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 7:55 AM PST reply actions  

This is remarkably true. Also, I keep 3 cats on my desk at all times.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:55 AM PST up reply actions  

This applies to any pet, really

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS

by norcalnick on Feb 8, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Even a wife?

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 5:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The McItaly

McDonald’s brands Italian culture with its McItaly sandwich, then sells it to the Italians.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/8503430.stm

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 9:20 AM PST reply actions  

A beef, artichoke, and asiago cheese burger is sure as heck not American, I know that much.

And the menu in the background has a McBacon burger — why doesn’t this exist in the US?

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Taco Bell has franchises in Mexico, but calls it “American food”.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

But the agriculture minister, who has endorsed the burger, says they are ‘ignorant Stalinists’ who should be proud of this food made from all-Italian ingredients.

I love Italian politics.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 10:21 AM PST up reply actions  

I want to ride one…

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

Doggy style?

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Only if I get to yell beast mode without upsetting it…

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 10:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Fujita et al

From various nola.com articles

“It was unbelievable, watching my girls out there trying to catch the confetti in their mouths,” said Fujita, who also talked about joining the celebration that’s about to erupt in New Orleans. “I’m gonna be drunk for about 30 days,” Fujita said.
Coach Payton held up the Lombardi Trophy so fans along the railing could touch it. “I just wish we could split it up in a lot of little pieces,” Payton said.

by kolwave on Feb 8, 2010 9:55 AM PST reply actions  

Best part was when they descended upon Len Dawson and wouldnt let him go through

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 9:56 AM PST up reply actions  

so he’s giving up sobriety for lent! Also, babysitter.

Ragnarok: Great Man or Greatest Man?

by AndBears on Feb 8, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

lol, I don’t think my priest would look upon this as a sacrifice.

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like someone needs a new priest.

by Yes We Cannon on Feb 8, 2010 12:01 PM PST up reply actions  

i wonder if the people from naked news in toronto stopped by?

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

That was my first thought haha

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Feb 8, 2010 10:34 AM PST up reply actions  

commiserating over Cal’s turn-of-the-century football troubles

I want to be part of that conversation!

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

You’d be the fourth wheel, or Mike Silver’s date.

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 10:15 AM PST up reply actions  

deal

wait what?

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

I might have to be drunk (or at least drinking) to relive all that.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 10:18 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, considering I was drunk living it… I could probably relive it sober.

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 10:26 AM PST up reply actions  

sweet Kolwave!

awesome:

two guys sent by Will Ferrell to high-five everybody,

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I remember the night before I left for college, I had trouble sleeping. I felt an overwhelming need to wake up my parents and thank them for adopting me, almost as if I was never going to see them again. So I did.

I admit, I first became a Fujita fan because I thought it was pretty cool that an Asian was playing college ball. :-D. After I saw his photo, though, he continued to win me over by showing himself to be a thoughtful and funny guy with a big heart. Definitely my favorite Cal grad in the NFL (and I’m glad there are several good guys to pick from). I couldn’t be happier for him, his teammates, and the city/region they represent.

by kolwave on Feb 8, 2010 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Adcock

Wait, does this mean that recruits are reading CGB RIGHT NOW?

by Shadwhand on Feb 8, 2010 10:33 AM PST reply actions  

Thank Tedford they’ve already signed their LOI, let they be turned away by the everyday workplace inanity of the DBD.

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

what is this “work” place you speak of?

Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!

by GoldBlooded on Feb 8, 2010 10:46 AM PST up reply actions  

No, subtract it!

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 2:06 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m still too sickened to comment. I wonder how Carrie feels about Tara Reid’s leftovers.

Goin' balls deep with Cal since 1972!

by Fire Starkey on Feb 8, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

OMG

He falls below BAM for having extremely poor taste in women. Surely there are just as hot women in the world who are also classy?

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

y’know?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Feb 8, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Those are the keepers.

by atomsareenough on Feb 9, 2010 9:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Since I don’t actually know the woman well enough to make any decision about her, I refuse to pass judgement.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 2:08 AM PST up reply actions  

Thankfully for Carrie Prejean, Kyle Boller is not a woman.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

The linked story begins:

The St. Louis Rams aren’t playing in today’s Super Bowl, but that didn’t stop their quarterback from scoring big-time.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 11:29 AM PST up reply actions  

She looks horrible in that article.

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Rishi, you’re being inappropriate.

by turkey on Feb 8, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

I had the same thought as Rishi, actually. It certainly wasn’t the best photo of her out on the internetz. Compare:

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

youtube her interview with larry king for joke reference.

by turkey on Feb 8, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

I fail at joke references.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Rishi, is that you?

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

DONT TELL ME WHAT TO DO! THIS IS MY HOT BODY! I DO WHAT I WANT!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

OMG Twist, here is something you MUST do!

There is a Twilight Convention in San Francisco this weekend! Three whole days of Twilight! On Valentine’s Day weekend! You must take your wife to this convention. What could be a better gift!

http://www.creationent.com/cal/twilight.htm

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Hesitantly, I have clicked on that link. Will report back soon with my findings.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Sweet! Cheapest available ticket is 30 and if you wanna essentially roam free for the weekend its like 300! I’ve got an excuse!

I’VE GOT AN EXCUSE! I’VE GOT AN EXCUSE!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

An excuse to go?

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Also its VDay weekend, well be too busy watching whatever crappy romantic comedy is coming out instead.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll bet your wife would rather go to the Twilight convention . . .

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, well she probably would prefer a trip to Rome over the Twilight convention.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Especially

If she looks like Betts in that Mad Men episode.

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

i was talking about the crappy romantic comedy :)

by turkey on Feb 8, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Twist, you are such a lucky man. There is another Twilight Convention in Sacramento in September — and there’s no Cal game that weekend. NO EXCUSES!

http://www.creationent.com/cal/twilight_sac.htm

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

…………but I’d have to go to Sacramento. That’s excuse enough.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 5:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Did something traumatic happen to you in Sacramento?

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

“Twist, show me onthe doll where Sacramento touched you”

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Too much traffic on the 50/80 interchange?

by LeonPowe on Feb 8, 2010 6:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Arnold?

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 6:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually the construction off of Sunset on 50 irks me.

by LeonPowe on Feb 8, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont actually hate Sacramento. I just like to make fun of CalBear81 and NOrCalNick.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Duh.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS

by norcalnick on Feb 8, 2010 6:20 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s crying over the McItaly sandwich because it doesn’t properly represent his culture.

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 2:11 AM PST up reply actions  

SUNDAY FEBRUARY 14
9:30 am: BREAKFAST with THE WOLF PACK!

I’ll see you there?

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 12:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Team Jacob of GTFO?

by turkey on Feb 8, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

There’s even a Vampire Ball on Saturday night with prizes for the best costumes!

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions  

“more w/ inappropriate Larry King after this…”

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Feb 8, 2010 4:54 PM PST up reply actions  

What? I’m asking a question…

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Larry King was being inappropriate with Ms. Prejean, and she said “Larry, stop being inapropriate.”

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

That was Larry King’s response!

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by Rishi on Feb 8, 2010 12:35 PM PST up reply actions  

rec’d for “Oh dear, I just got served”

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

rec’d for green

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Feb 8, 2010 1:57 PM PST up reply actions  

A better response would have been:

“You think that’s inappropriate? I’m typing this while wearing pleated pants!”

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

We wear the pants to win!!!

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I wear pants due to a recent Court order. And ONLY due to a recent Court order.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh, Boller just got engaged to get her to put out.

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

“Larry, stop being inappropriate.”

Am I doing that joke right?

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Being unengaged didn’t stop her from putting out before

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by norcalnick on Feb 8, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Larry, stop being inappropriate.

by paleodan on Feb 8, 2010 1:40 PM PST up reply actions  

The eight (8) “biggest mistakes of her life” suggest she’s a “do as I say, not as I do” lover of gawd.

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by carp on Feb 8, 2010 4:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I the only one who thinks Sean Payton looks like a really angry Sunday school teacher on the field? He always has his lips pursed in a way that he seems annoyed and upset. Like he’s going to threaten Reggie Bush not to fumble or else Bush will get turned into a pillar of salt or something. Ai!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 11:58 AM PST reply actions  

How many Sunday school classes did you attend at temple?

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I went to Temple Isaiah once. Although I dont remember this, I am informed and believe and thereon allege that I demanded never to be taken back.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

No one wanted you anyway

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Feb 8, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Tedford chat has started

Chat link

One of the first questions and answers:

Jim Davis – Alameda: Will you and your defensive coordinator use a more aggressive defensive scheme this year? The zone defense and 3 man rush with an occasional blitz was largely ineffective in putting pressure on opposing quarterbacks last year. Isn’t it time to try more confusing blitz packages with some man to man secondary coverage since the passive system clearly didn’t work last year?

Jeff Tedford: The answer is yes. In reflecting on last season, we agree we need to be more aggressive as a philosophy. While there are times to use a three-man rush, our mindset next season will be more aggressive.

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by Ohio Bear on Feb 8, 2010 12:44 PM PST reply actions  

Tedford's Live Chat

He’s being very candid—again—but also sticking up for his QBs/calling out fans who don’t look @ the bigger picture when an offense struggles

I also like: (1) the D will be more aggressive, (2) trying to bring a different mentality to special teams (get those dudes fired up!), (3) Teddy’s directly responding to the questions, not dancing around them

by calbeers05753 on Feb 8, 2010 12:45 PM PST reply actions  

Interesting that he didn’t specifically name Riley as the starter. Or, I’m reading too much into a two-sentence answer.

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably understood Riley will go in w/ an advantage, but yes it’s telling that he didn’t name him

by calbeers05753 on Feb 8, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

It seems to be updating rather slowly.

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder which Pac-10 coach Tedford hates the most.

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Jay Leno

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Feb 8, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

If/when CGB interviews him, it definitely needs to be asked who he wants to punch in the face.

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 1:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Fran Drescher… that damned voice.

by chowder on Feb 8, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like what Coco sez:

All I ask of you, especially young people . . . is one thing. Please don’t be cynical. I hate cynicism — it’s my least favorite quality and it doesn’t lead anywhere. Nobody in life gets exactly what they thought they were going to get. But if you work really hard and you’re kind, amazing things will happen. I’m telling you, amazing things will happen.

Yay, positivity!

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by zoonews on Feb 8, 2010 1:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Support, yes. Positivity, yes. Blind acceptance, though, no. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with questioning decisions that the coaches make, and how the team plays. But there’s definitely a line, and we should always keep in mind that we’re all on the same side, rooting for the same team.

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 1:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I was mainly thinking of those nasty comments about the “unranked” wide receiver on BI; that kind of stuff can and will be used against the program. Any trashing of individual players reflects on us poorly as a fan base. Remember, its not the NFL, unless they play for U$C, they are not being paid.

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

This is definitely true, and I agree with you 100% on that. It’s especially true when it comes to recruits who aren’t even offically on the team yet, and whom we haven’t had the chance to see play. I think Coach Tedford more than deserves the benefit of the doubt when it comes to identifying talented kids and getting them to come to Cal.

I also think that even when it comes to players that ARE on the team, we should be a bit more measured and circumspect in the way we talk about them. You’re absolutely right that they’re not being paid, and they’re busting their butts out there, regardless. There is absolutely no need to get personal, or to try and psychoanalyze these kids whom we don’t even know.

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

WTF?
Thomas, SF, CA: Coach Tedford, Can you address the skeptics who think that this chat is not live, and that all questions were answered ahead of time? Thanks!

by since1997 on Feb 8, 2010 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

That must be Twist

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

agree with the statement

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 1:13 PM PST reply actions  

I love the onion.
This is not the first case of the Fighting Irish manipulating a youngster into signing with them, as demonstrated by the case of former Notre Dame quarterback Brady Quinn, who was infamously tricked into attending the school after being told South Bend, IN had a thriving gay nightclub scene.

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by Rocksanddirt on Feb 8, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

So does this mean Rishi was tricked into being a closet ND fan?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Feb 8, 2010 5:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Tedford live chat

Anybody else left disappointed by the whole experience?

LINK

by solarise on Feb 8, 2010 1:39 PM PST reply actions  

mrs. carp is not supposed to know about this.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Feb 8, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

From Tedford's Live Chat

“The most positive way the fans can help is by providing unconditional support for the program. I have noticed in this day and age of blogging, message boards, etc., that people are eager to give negative opinions. While I understand the frustration from time to time, there is nothing positive that comes from that. It doesn’t make for a positive environment for our players and coaches and only provides fuel for negativity in recruiting, which is used against us. So if you want to help, stay positive. It will go much further than the negativity.”

SO CUT OUT THE HATERADE ALREADY!

by Oski4Heisman on Feb 8, 2010 2:07 PM PST reply actions  

Fuck Stanfurd

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Feb 8, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

flagged

For not reading the discussion above.

by atomsareenough on Feb 8, 2010 2:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Fuck Stanfurd

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Feb 8, 2010 2:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh no! Somebdy posted something twice. AND IN A DBD, TOO!!!!

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

If people aren’t willing to read all 859 comments, then what good are they to this community?

by atomsareenough on Feb 9, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Hey coach, how about not losing 42-3? If you can manage that, I’ll work on my negativity.

Goin' balls deep with Cal since 1972!

by Fire Starkey on Feb 8, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

OH ZHANG

Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!

by GoldBlooded on Feb 8, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I get what you are saying, but I think a lot of what he was saying came form the recent recruiting-related blog commenting… Posters on BI and Inside Bay Area were brutal on the coaching staff and the “less recognizable” recruits over the past month

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by CruzinBears on Feb 8, 2010 3:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Thats fair enough. Pretty lame to blast a recruit that has yet to set foot on campus.

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by Fire Starkey on Feb 9, 2010 6:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Yea there were some heated debates with a lot of folks saying we were done because we lost recruits to Fresneck St. and were signing “nobodies”

It was a lot of fairweather fan BS…

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by CruzinBears on Feb 9, 2010 9:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Coaches are fair game, they are paid and they are 40 YEARS OLD!

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by Cugel on Feb 8, 2010 3:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay by me if you want to declare open season on 40-year-olds. Just leave the 50-year-olds alone.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

old

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Feb 8, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

OLD

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by BearStage on Feb 9, 2010 2:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t you have a windowless van to be piloting towards an after school program or something???

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I think hes talking more about trying to really have strong and reasoned critiques as compared to “FIRE LONGSHORE!” or whatnot. There is a clear distinction.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 6:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Considering the Oregon debacle, followed by the $c debacle, and then later the Washington debacle, I think the fans here remained pretty reasonable. I actually drove all the way up to Eugene for that nightmarish Duck game, and I didn’t start yelling “fire” anybody. There were some pretty upset people, which seems very understandable, but I just didn’t see the kind of negativity you are concerned about. It sounds like that was true of some other sites, but not here.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 6:05 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. I believe CGB to have the most reasonable fans.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

A lot of us are old and we have learned to hope for success but secretly expect failure from our football team.

by atomsareenough on Feb 9, 2010 9:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Three of the moderators and writer were in the Cal Band, where you have to support the teams no matter what. If you were angry at the team in the band, you would go crazy because you are required to go to all the games, whether you want to or not.

by paleodan on Feb 10, 2010 12:47 AM PST up reply actions  

We also have people sort of managing the discussion here. Ther, there isn’t really anybody managing the discussion. So, the loudest shout down the rest. And the most reasonable tend notto be the loudest. Here, the mods have a megaphone.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 10, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I also like to think, that as with the best online communities, there is a fair amount of self-policing on the part of the participants. We don’t really tolerate or encourage people who are dumb or hateful.

by atomsareenough on Feb 10, 2010 9:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Yet, you continue to allow me. Makes no sense.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 10, 2010 9:27 AM PST up reply actions  

The exception that proves the rule? Also, you’re a mod so you’re somewhat entrenched.

by atomsareenough on Feb 10, 2010 9:41 AM PST up reply actions  

The culture here is to use a Cal loss (or a Cal win, for that matter) as one more opportunity to try to show off how intelligent, knowledgeable and witty we can be, rather than to spew vitriol.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 10, 2010 9:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Clearly you closely read the football open threads

by Kai on Feb 10, 2010 9:53 AM PST up reply actions  

When Cal is losing, many of our readers in the open threads go “Wait, wait, wait, now that UW is up 42-10, let me tell you the wittiest knock knock joke I know!”

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by TwistNHook on Feb 10, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve heard such great knock knock jokes thanks to those threads! It’s amazing how well everyone keeps their cool and stays intelligent, knowledgeable and witty. They also manage to completely avoid vitriol!

by Kai on Feb 11, 2010 2:01 AM PST up reply actions  

“Another Oregon touchdown, hmm, you heard the one about the Rabbi, the Priest, and Kevin Riley walking into a bar?”

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by TwistNHook on Feb 11, 2010 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

One’s a sick duck and I can’t remember how it ends, but your mother’s a whore

by LeonPowe on Feb 11, 2010 8:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to go put a gun

 in my mouth.

Quantity AND quantity!

by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 11, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s a nice suit… do they make it for men?

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by BearStage on Feb 12, 2010 1:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, the game is afoot. I’ll take anal bum cover for 7000.

by LeonPowe on Feb 12, 2010 5:17 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll play your game you ROGUE

Quantity AND quantity!

by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 12, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve got to ask you – about the Penis Mightier. Will it really mighty my penis?

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by BearStage on Feb 12, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ll take Famous Titties for $400, Alex.

by LeonPowe on Feb 12, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The day is mine!

Quantity AND quantity!

by Spazzy Mcgee on Feb 12, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Ursula Andress, Catherine Deneuve, and Charo, twice

by LeonPowe on Feb 12, 2010 6:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Bacteria, anyway.

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by BearStage on Feb 10, 2010 1:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Although I like Tedford a lot

His interactions with media reflect perfect coach-speak (saying a lot when he’s really saying nothing). I’ll believe he’s made changes when I see them on the field.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Feb 8, 2010 4:22 PM PST reply actions  

Avi, the most positive way you can help is by providing unconditional support for CGB. I have noticed in this day and age of blogging, message boards, etc., that people are eager to give negative opinions. While I understand the frustration from time to time, there is nothing positive that comes from that. It doesn’t make for a positive environment for our mods and our readers and provides fuel for negativity in recruiting, which is used against us. So if you want to help, stay positive. It will go much further than the negativity.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 6:00 PM PST up reply actions  

how dare you contradict T in any way? His insight into cal sports are what make this site excellent. Maybe you should instead be questioning CJT and the shitty play of Michael Cera instead of blaming T, who is also fucking hot, if i may say so myself.

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by GoldBlooded on Feb 8, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re dead on GB (except for the “hot” part). LP should be ashamed of criticizing TNH on GCB. I’m sure JT, MM, JB, and SB would agree, if they had ever heard of TNH or LP or, for that matter, GCB. You’ve been warned, LP! — CB81.

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by CalBear81 on Feb 8, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont think its reasonable to say “Fire TnH” now, but perhaps in a few years (or weeks or days) that might be more reasonable.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

How about in a few seconds?

by LeonPowe on Feb 8, 2010 6:32 PM PST up reply actions  

FIRE TNH

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 6:43 PM PST up reply actions  

We should really wait and give TnH a couple of years with the new SBN servers before we evaluate whether to fire him.

by sec119 on Feb 8, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s attitudes like this that keep CGB the preinennal loser of sports blogs.

by LeonPowe on Feb 8, 2010 7:15 PM PST up reply actions  

off topic but related....

what’s our overall traffic compared to other SBN blogs? I mean I sorta know what we do from the site meter thing, but it’s hard to compare to others.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Feb 8, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

We had that post the other week ago that showed we have the most comments of any college blog (IIRC). However our actual numbers are not at that level. We are prettydecent. #2 behind BN for Pac10, I believe. Overall, there are some really good college blogs. The FSU one got like 30,000 uniques on recruiting day last week. We got like 5,000 uniques. So, definitely a ways to go there for CGB.

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by TwistNHook on Feb 8, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Be careful GoldBlooded. I’m keeping my eye on you, you seem like a trouble maker!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Feb 8, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

LEAVE TWISTANDHOOK ALONE! YOU DON’T KNOW WHAT HE’S BEEN THROUGH!

(Like on his wedding night, for example)

by atomsareenough on Feb 9, 2010 9:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Excuse me, that should be Twist “N” Hook, Esq.

by atomsareenough on Feb 9, 2010 9:47 AM PST up reply actions  

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