Cal Football Receivers Roundtable: Newcomers And Tight Ends
How much of the struggles our receiving game can be attributed to the trouble at quarterback and the offensive line?
Kodiak: Most of it. The drops really didn't help, but I think it starts with the O-line 1st, quarterback play 2nd. I do not know enough about WR play to comment on whether our receivers are having trouble getting open because of their route-running. When it was clear that our O-line was having issues, we played a lot of max protect. This also makes it tough on the WR's because we're counting on only 1-2 of them to get open. If the defense is sitting back in a drop 8 zone, then our WR's have to beat double coverage.
Berkelium97: You can't catch passes if your QB doesn't have enough time to pass. You especially can't catch them if the QB has plenty of time (an exceedingly rare occasion) and sends it sailing 8 feet over your head. I'd split the blame 50% on the O-line, 30% on the QB, 15% on the receivers, and 5% on the fact that Juju hates us.
solarise: 90%. Pass protection and QB are the major flaws to our offense. We don't strike fear into Pac12 opponents when Brock Mansion is behind center.
What dimension can the new speedsters (Edmond, Kaelin Clay, Tevin Carter, Terrance Montgomery) add into our receiving game next season?
Kodiak: Cynically, you could say that they'll be further down the field when our QB gets sacked by that unblocked DE around the end. With decent protection and an accurate QB, I'm sure that having speed helps open up holes in the zone because the defense has to respect the deep ball. The D also has to think twice whether playing press man is a good gamble or not. Reportedly, Clay is pretty elusive - so he becomes another threat on fly-sweeps, end-arounds, and reverses.
Berkelium97: Hopefully they're able to stretch the field and consistently separate from their defenders. We haven't had a crew of receivers like that since 07.
solarise: The main vertical threats will be Jones, Allen, and Clay. I think Edmond, Carter and Montgomery will play the role vacated by Ross & stretch the field laterally.
What on Earth happened to our tight ends? They struggled to block and barely caught anything.
Kodiak: Someone send Jacob Wark a get-well card. Miller was the biggest disappointment. Literally. Ladner was our highest-rated TE recruit in a long time, but I simply didn't see it. He really struggled with inconsistency blocking, and never emerged as a threat in the passing game. Some of the lack of receptions is scheme. The TE's were kept in to block a lot - probably because our tackles couldn't stop anyone. Some of it could be because the TE is later in the receiving progression on many pass plays, and our QB's either didn't have the time or the experience to get to that read. Some of it is just plain weird - like instead of throwing seam routes, or stop routes up the middle, we tried using Ladner on deep go routes. I guess that makes sense to someone. He is big and tall...but doesn't seem to know yet how to use his body to ward off defenders and "play tall." Neither TE showed much skill at finding open holes in the zone, nor at beating man coverage, nor making tough catches in traffic...Okay, I'm stopping now before I get too clinically depressed.
Um. ALLLLLAAAAMMMMAAAARRR???
Berkelium97: ALAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRR. No seriously, we developed some solid tight ends under Alamar. We had some great blockers and some great receivers and now...not so much. Miller seemed like a star in the making until he simply disappeared this year. Miller's not out there hauling in passes and Ladner isn't flattening anyone with blocks. Genyk has started to turn things around on special teams, but tight ends are underdeveloped.
solarise: Because of the inability on the OL to pass protect, I saw a lot of max-protection calls and double teams from Miller or Ladner against speedy DEs coming off the edge (Oregon State, USC). Eric Stevens's hand injury also cause Ladner to line up as FB @ times. Nothing against Sparks, but if Jarrett is your main pass catching threat from TE, there might be an issue.
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I keep hearing this debate over and over...
We all know that we had a stud running back, and the defense (except for a few question mark games) was often awesome. So, therefore the problem with the Bears was the passing game. Period.
But, was the problem with the passing game the fault of the QB’s (inability to deliver the ball), the O-line (inability to provide blocking time for QB), or the Receivers (inability to run separation routes and hang onto the ball)???
For me, I am not a coach. I don’t have tape and review dozens of plays to see where the play broke down. What I DO have my eyes fixed on is the ball, which most often is in the QB’s hands. Over the past two years, I saw Riley mis-throw a lot of balls, often to wide open receivers. It doesn’t inspire confidence.
I think that the one pass that was most emblematic… I can’t remember the season or the game, perhaps one of you will… I think it was the 2009 season… Cal had what appeared to be a trick play on. Ball was about at the 50, Cal heading south. Vareen ran to the sideline like he was going to be subbing out. But then stood just inbounds. He was very sneaky and the defense didn’t pick it up. He was ALL ALONE. My heart started racing before the snap. “Oh my god – look….” (Vareen was going to catch a quick one and sprint 50 yards for an easy score).
But, before I could get anymore words out of my mouth, Cal snapped the ball and Riley sailed the ball not only over Vareen’s head, but the entire Bears’ sideline.
I had the feeling they had worked on that all year and the players and coaching staff must have felt like I did. Completely let down.
For me, I don’t need to go further than that.
Those types of throws happened again and again, and receivers began to throw their arms in disgust at the ball not being delivered to them. They were showing up their QB. I think morale was lost and the entire ship was sinking in lots of areas.
The QB position is one where you not only need someone who can make the physical plays, but it really helps when you have a leader psychologically who can inspire the rest of the troops to do even better than their best. I would hope that whoever ends up winning the QB position next spring is an athlete who can not only make the plays, but a leader among men either by words or deeds.
Coach Tedford’s job is to make sure he enhances the psychology of the 7 trying out for the part. Riley had the physical gifts – that throw I mentioned was not a physical problem. I will judge Tedford on his ability to mentally train at least 1 of the 7.
by concordtom on Dec 27, 2010 8:15 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I feel your frustration. While you feel you don’t need to go any further than blaming the QB, I think that without going further a person would really miss out on the big picture. Football is a team game. Mistaskes are made all over the field — even away from the ball. Only watching the ball and distributing blame to people around the ball or handling the ball ignores the offensive line and WRs. The OL (in my opinion), hasn’t been that great. It’s even harder to comment on the WRs’ performance because they are so often off the TV screen that we can’t see what they are doing against what coverages.
You use the trick play against USC as an example of how bad the QBs were. True. But why did Cal resort to using that play? Because we couldn’t beat USC with “normal” plays (i put the word normal in quotes because in essence every football play is normal; there is no such thing as a “trick play”). We couldn’t run the ball down their throats. We couldn’t just execute basic passes against them. Why couldn’t we do that? Our offensive line couldn’t open up enough holes for runs, and pass block enough to prevent pressure on the QB and sacks. Our WRs seemingly couldn’t get open against the coverage either. So the failed trick play you point to, in my opinion, is indicative of problems away from the QB too. Namely, OL and WRs.
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I don’t have tape and review dozens of plays to see where the play broke down.
BearMarch has been really kind and uploaded all our games this year.

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