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Cal Football Receivers Roundtable: Keenan Allen, Marvin Jones, And The Crew

Keenan Allen is as advertised.


Did the receivers perform above, at, or below expectations? Evaluate them individually and/or collectively.

Kodiak:

Keenan Allen - As advertised before he got hurt.  It also helped when we flung catchable balls in his direction.  Let's try that next year.
Marvin Jones - Below expectations.  Expected to be our #1 receiver and benefit from having playmakers (Allen/Miller) not allow the D to focus on him.  He made some brilliant catches, but had some absolutely horrible drops.  Also suffered from subpar/inconsistent QB play.  But, the drops on routine balls that hit him in the hands just can't happen to our #1 go-to guy.
Jeremy Ross - Probably met expectations.  Showed some improvement in making tougher catches this year.  Always a threat and a thrill running with the ball.  Gave good effort blocking downfield.  No idea if his route-running improved.  It's a real shame he missed his last two games.
Michael Calvin - Met expectations.  Showed improvement throughout the year and stayed healthy.  Not a bad blocker thanks to his size.
Coleman Edmond - Never made the Tucker-like push towards the end of the year to demand playing time.  Incomplete.

Star-divide

Berkelium97: I expected them to range from great to mediocre, with several maddening drops (like we've seen since 2008).  They mostly delivered what I expected.  Keenan Allen was a pleasant surprise and he should develop into a DeSean-esque talent in the coming years (assuming our passing game doesn't fall off a cliff again).  The rest of the guys were serviceable, with some good and bad moments.  It's a shame Loggy didn't see the field more.  Short passes over the middle to him were an important staple in our offense late in the '09 season.

solarise: Overall no significant improvement from 2009 IMO. They are not the source of our offensive woes but the dropped passes & penalties really hurt @ times. Marvin Jones' ill-advised miscues killed drives. Allen's versatility is well documented but defenses key in. Ross was most improved. His speed & strength showed and let us to a win @ Pullman.

 

Of the few good things this season that occurred, we discovered the talent of Keenan Allen. If we have a quarterback who can get him the ball consistently, could we return to a 2006/2007 type offense rather quickly?

Kodiak: Only if we can also return to an '06-'07 offensive line.

Berkelium97: We need an adequate O-line to turn the offense around like that.  That is the top priority.

solarise: There's enough talent coming in @ WR & TE IMO for us to return to a quick strike offense. Both Tevin Carter & Kaelin Clay have trackstar speed. Montgomery could be the Wes Welker type of slot receiver and spell Isi Sofele. Maurice Harris is faster than he appears to be w/ pillow soft hands. Richard Rodgers is a stud & physically mature beyond his years. I look forward to the day when Cal offense will strike fear again in the Pac-12, when we find that accurate QB to deliver the ball to our playmakers.


I thought Marvin Jones would be a surefire pro prospect next season, but he's developed a case of the dropsies. Are the quarterbacks throwing inaccurate balls?

Kodiak:  Yes. But that's not why he's dropping the ball.  Several of the drops have been on time, on the money, in his hands throws. It's a question of focus.

TwistNHook: Some were inaccurate, certainly, but he's gotta grab them.  If he can get two hands on it, he's gotta grab them. I saw many games where he had two hands on them and still dropped them.  :(

Berkelium97:
The most irritating thing about the combination of QB inaccuracy and dropsies is that the passes most often dropped are the ones where the QB delivers the ball right between Jones' numbers.  Sometimes he'll catch an uncatchable pass, but sometimes he also drops the very catchable passes.  The dropsies epidemic on our team is troubling and speaks very poorly of Daft.  You can't coach a guy to haul in the ball every time, but these drops are very peculiar.

solarise: I think Marvin is well aware of the passes he should've caught this year. We caught glimpses of his talent & ball skillz to adjust to badly thrown passes. Even DJax dropped a few in his career. We need to cut Marv some slack and I'm confident he will put it all together next year.

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I would say Calvin underperformed my own expectations. With everything we’ve heard about him over the years (when healthy), I expected him to be a meaningful contributor when healthy. He wasn’t.

I would say Allen exceeded my expectations – not many true freshman come in and are as ready to play as he was. Even though he was a 5* prospect, I didn’t expect as much as he gave us. That said, I think the Desean comparison is jumping the gun more than a little bit. Desean was a special talent – the kind of guy with a brand of athleticism you just don’t see very often. He also put up 600 yards and 7 TD’s receiving as a freshman, and that was with Ayoob throwing him the ball….

by Missing Barry on Dec 22, 2010 5:01 AM PST reply actions  

DeSean as a freshman
He also put up 600 yards and 7 TD’s receiving as a freshman, and that was with Ayoob throwing him the ball in his general vicinity….

Fixed.

On a serious note, recall that DeSean caught 3 of his TDs and had a bunch of receiving yards in the final two games of the season (Big Game and Las Vegas Bowl) when Steve Levy was the QB.

Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.

by Ohio Bear on Dec 22, 2010 5:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Just think what might have been if we had a QB that could throw it more than 20 yards downfield the entire season…

Sigh

by Missing Barry on Dec 22, 2010 6:01 AM PST up reply actions  

Second this

After watching DJax’s highlights, I think it’s premature to say Allen is the next DJax. At least on punt return, there’s no comparison so far. DJax had video-game like moves. We saw a hint of this from Allen early on and another flash later on in the season but I haven’t been wow-ed like I was with DJ.

With that said, his size makes for great opportunity if a QB can consistently throw it anywhere near him.

by freshfunk on Dec 22, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

he was a very nice role player. Would have been fun to see him do his thing on a well performing team.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Dec 22, 2010 9:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Ya'll watch out for Maurice Harris next year

Keenan says Maurice has better hands than he does ;)

by Redonkulous Bear on Dec 22, 2010 8:23 AM PST reply actions  

Gotta find someone to get there ball there first!

http://twitter.com/solariseCGB

by solarise on Dec 22, 2010 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

BRB gonna post a classified ad

by Redonkulous Bear on Dec 22, 2010 8:32 AM PST up reply actions  

I look forward to the day when Cal offense will strike fear again in the Pac-12, when we find that accurate QB to deliver the ball to our playmakers.

Damn. Me too.

by heckyeah on Dec 22, 2010 9:44 AM PST reply actions  

we need about 5 Keenan Allen’s

by JustBear on Dec 22, 2010 9:56 AM PST reply actions  

and 1 Aaron Rodgers

diehard warrior & niner fan.
possibly the only cal + SC fan in the world

by gogoldenbears on Dec 22, 2010 1:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Maurice Harris

Our signing of Maurice Harris would be getting a lot more hype if he had waited until now to commit, instead of early in the year.

He is cousins of Allen and Maynard and certainly looks the part of a beastly Div 1 WR. Funny how he is rated as 3 star by some sites, but is fairly high on the ESPN Top 150.

What I would prefer to see next year is Maynard coming out throwing well and showing his running ability. He gets the nod to start and we see this lefty throw bullets to his cousins Allen and Harris and, of course, Jones. It would be an interesting story about a family from NC coming across the country to go to school at CAL and take them to the next level.

by DavidsonBear on Dec 22, 2010 10:08 AM PST reply actions  

I think it would be fun to watch the Cal offense blossom with a family leadership mentality, although it may be a bit exclusive with Maynard, Allen and Harris, having an actual close-knit family group leading the team on offense may provide a great leadership example of how the rest of the team should be interacting to foster success… Easier said than done of course

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Dec 22, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm hoping Maynard is NOT a shoo-in

..reason being, we need a real competition so that we can find the best QB AND the QB at the top tries hard to stay there. If you have the spot “reserved” for Maynard or if he doesn’t feel like he can lose it, then there’s less pressure to perform well.

While the 3-Brothers combo sounds enticing, I’m not holding my breath. I can see a lot of downsides to this (eg. Maynard biased to throwing to his bros on plays where it may not be the best decision).

by freshfunk on Dec 22, 2010 12:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, I hope nobody is a shoo-in and they have to earn their spots. But I’m definitely intrigued by the idea of Maynard, especially since we haven’t seen a lot of impressive work from Mansion and Sweeney.

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if any of these guys have any other relatives that can play football. Hopefully an offensive line man. Or a coach.

by mrjpark on Dec 22, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

For me:

Keenan Allen: He’s no DJax. Let’s kill that comparison right now. But he did remarkably well barring injuries.

Marvin Jones: Underperformed. Those drops were fucking killer. Though he did have a few clutch catches but no where up to 2009 standards. Let’s hope that this was just a sophomore slump and he kills it next year.

Ross: I think he performed well. Lots of great plays including that memorable one vs WSU. Too bad he was injured to end the season.

Calvin: I had all but written him off after the Big Game last year but he really stepped up this year.

Loggy: Incomplete. Never really got many passes thrown his way and didn’t make anything of the ones that was thrown to him.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Dec 22, 2010 10:11 AM PST reply actions  

Ted Miller has been lazy

and just linking to a new CGB post everyday for the Lunch Links.
Or is it that no one else is writing about Cal football anymore?

by JustBear on Dec 22, 2010 11:46 AM PST reply actions  

It's not laziness

During the offseason there is not nearly as much Cal news as there is during the season. Most of the local outlets that Ted usually posts in his lunch links have turned their attention to basketball and other topics and they only occasionally mention football. Because of that, there aren’t as many sources to choose from which consistently provide news and analysis of Cal football. Ted Miller reads the site and respects the content we produce, so he links to it. When no one else is talking about Cal football, he links to us even more.

"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach

by Berkelium97 on Dec 22, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, who else is he going to link to that’s producing Cal football content?

California Golden Bears: 2nd place is nothing to sneeze at!

by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Marvin Jones on Riley's final pass...

…had one helluva grab along the sidelines. You could see the entire team’s mood suddenly peak at that moment. But, of course, Riley was lying broken in the end zone. With the game only a 7-point deficit at that point, one can only wonder how that game might have turned out. In an instant the Bears had and lost momentum, and, of course, the game… :o(

"To steal ideas from one person is plagiarism; to steal from many is
research."

by Auricursine on Dec 22, 2010 12:17 PM PST reply actions  

With the game only a 7-point deficit at that point, one can only wonder how that game might have turned out. In an instant the Bears had and lost momentum, and, of course, the game… :o(

I think we still lost the game pretty badly. It was a road game vs. OSU.

by JustBear on Dec 22, 2010 1:05 PM PST up reply actions  

My Coleman Edmond Highlight on special teams

One-arming Kicker Erik Polk to the ground

http://twitter.com/solariseCGB

by solarise on Dec 22, 2010 5:01 PM PST reply actions  

its easy to point the drops but i believe that they become more frequent when the qb play is erratic. receivers get in a rhythm too, a lot easier to not drop passes when the offense as a whole is in a rhythm

by gobears725 on Dec 22, 2010 5:26 PM PST reply actions  

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