Cal Football Offensive Line Roundtable: Forgetting Steve Marshall
1. Was Steve Marshall doomed by the lack of talent from Coach M's recruits? Or were the new schemes he implemented too much for Cal's offensive linemen to handle?
Kodiak: No. I'll let someone else do the research, but I believe almost all of the players in Cal's offensive line two-deep this year were well-regarded as recruits. Whether recruiting ratings/rankings correlate to talent is another question. I don't know enough about offensive line technique and scheme to say which was the more glaring weakness. It was probably some of both.
Even in the last game of the season, there were plays where guys simply didn't block anyone. For example, on the 3rd down sack of Mansion on our first drive, Schwartz does not block the DE. (most outside pass rusher) There is no TE help. And the RB on that side went out in a pattern. That looks like scheme/blown assignment. On the same play, Edwards/Schwenke fail to double-team their DE. That's both lousy technique and perhaps not knowing which of them was responsible for the inside/outsider rush?(scheme) Faceplants all around....But that doesn't look all that complicated or complex to me. If you can't prepared 5 guys to block 3, it's not the scheme - that's just bad coaching.
solarise: I'm not aware of Marshall's coaching methods. Our offensive linemen though are well-regarded recruits.
Steve Marshall at the launching of the Titanic, proclaiming that the vessel would be well-protected and would sail the seas for a thousand years. (HT Redonkulous Bear)
2. Mitchell Schwartz seemed to regress from his first year with Coach M (he looked like he was showing major promise) to being merely average in his first two years. That seems like a pretty damning indictment of Marshall. Having watched the rest of the offensive line the last two years and seeing the same guys in action two year's running in his scheme, would you say they've regressed, maxed out, just not developed well enough?
Kodiak: My completely uninexpert opinion...
Schwartz, Matt Summers-Gavin - Regressed
Donovan Edwards, Chris Guarnero, Richard Fisher - Maxed out
Justin Cheadle, Brian Schwenke, Dominic Galas - Not developed well enough
solarise: Not sure where this talk of regression is coming from. Mitchell Schwartz performed admirably IMO. He's been more than adequate against DEs protecting Riley & Mansion's blind side. I can't speak the same for the rest of his mates on the line though:
Summers-Gavin - regressed
Guarnero - maxed out
Edwards - maxed out
Steve Marshall in China, sampling the type of offensive linemen he wants to develop--sturdy and frozen. (HT zoonews)
3. Any offensive linemen you're high on? Any O-linemen you never want to see on the field again?
Kodiak: I like how Galas pancaked Vontaze Burfict. I know he was relatively inexperienced with making the line calls, and was good for a hold per game. But the line had so much more push up the middle when he was in there. It's kind of mean to pick on departing Bear seniors. I know that Guarnero and Edwards tried their best and I wish them luck in their future endeavors.
solarise: I'm curious about Tyler & Jordan Rigsbee. Hopefully they won't get hurt in camp.
Steve Marshall, in disguise, promising to protect President Lincoln from Confederate assassins. (HT Redonkulous Bear)
4. With Marshall gone, it's not likely Coach M will just walk back into our arms. What type of O-line coach would you want to get?
Kodiak: A tough SOB who kicks *ss, chews gum, and is out of gum. Needs to be a great teacher to help guys develop proper technique. I'd be happy with technique and attitude. It would be nice if he's also savvy enough to help make in-game adjustments and can help with recruiting. That's not asking for too much, is it?
solarise: A young hungry dude in Tosh mode.
Steve Marshall, seen here on the 1919 Black Sox squad. (HT Redonkulous Bear)
5. Look ahead to the future--despite the pain we feel now, we have a lot of young guys coming up--Charles Siddoway, Chris Adcock, Geoffrey Gibson, Alex Crosthwaite all look promising. How quickly can our offensive line turn around and we can all get back to a humming Tedford offense?
Kodiak: Next year, we have three returning juniors and two returning seniors with young talent pushing them for time. With the right coach, I feel confident that the potential is there. (See: Cal, 2002)
solarise: I'm hoping the answer is 2012 when Memorial reopens.
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Ok.. The Titanic one
almost made me spit out my coffee, just the image, before I even read the caption.
Great stuff.
by C98 on Dec 14, 2010 3:44 AM PST via mobile reply actions
lol what happened to Neville Marshall?
by Redonkulous Bear on Dec 14, 2010 8:28 AM PST reply actions
I decided that a photo of Marshall with Hitler on the frontpage might’ve been a little over the line.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 14, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions
hahaahh
it’s like a game of where’s waldo?
I did like your “MARSHAAAAAAAAAAL” lolcat, though.
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by royrules22 on Dec 14, 2010 11:49 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
You know, for whatever reason, Marshall just wasn’t a good fit for us. Sometimes thats the way it is, whether it’s the system, culture, or a weird ethereal thing.
But I have to say, the way Coach Marshall is leaving is very classy. Particularly how he continued to work on recruiting after he’d given his notice. If only for that reason, I wish him the best at Colorado.
Calmer than you are.
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Also, I was waiting for the inevitable “forgetting steve marshall” line.
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by atomsareenough on Dec 14, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions
Its not related to the o-line but....Akili Smith for QB Coach?
Remember back in the spring when Tedford hired Akili Smith as a graduate assistant? Is there any chance that Tedford promotes him to QB coach?
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Wouldn’t that mean we lose another coach, then? Aren’t there not enough coaching positions allowed, which is why Ludwig is doing double duty on OC and QB?
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by atomsareenough on Dec 15, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Not sure about the restrictions on the number of coaching positions. As you mentioned, Ludwig is doing double duty, so we wouldn’t necessarily be losing a coach. Perhaps being an assistant is already a sneaky way of allowing Smith to coach the QBs under the radar?
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by dballisloose on Dec 15, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, there are limits on the number of coaches the team can have. Therefore, if we promote Smith to an actual coach, then we’d have to get rid of someone else.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
How about getting rid of Kevin Daft and having Smith work with both QBs and WRs?
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by dballisloose on Dec 15, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
New oline coach?
I think this guy was oline coach in 97 at Fresno state when Tedford was OC. Later he became OL coach @ Nebraska and recruited Ndamukung Suh.
http://www.catamountsports.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/wagner_dennis00.html
by Redonkulous Bear on Dec 15, 2010 3:51 PM PST reply actions

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