This Week In The Pac: Two Games From Bowl Armageddon
Stanford and Oregon have clinched BCS spots. Washington St., Arizona St., Cal and UCLA cannot reach bowl eligibility. Oregon St. must defeat #1 Oregon. Only Washington stands a good chance of preventing the very unlikely but plausible scenario I outlined just three weeks ago. We're just one Couging away from a worthy WAC team taking a vacated Pac-10 spot in the Holiday Bowl!
Sure, the Pac-10's insistence on scheduling multiple challenging out of conference opponents and 9 game conference schedules (plus those cheatin' Trojans!) has resulted in just three bowl eligible teams. But I'm sure that we can console ourselves that doing so gives Stanford the computer boost to jump ahead of Wisconsin's poll advantage to earn an automatic BCS bowl.
. . . .If you'll excuse me I'm going to go pound my head into the wall. Hit the jump for more pain, plus funny football foibles: Southern California edition!
Oregon 48, Arizona 29
One of the few tiny specks of comfort Cal fans can take from this season is that our defense remains the only defense that did not fully bend to Oregon's inevitable second half onslaught. We can also comfort ourselves knowing that Cal wasn't the only team to needlessly shoot itself in the foot on special teams against the Ducks. A completely unnecessary and inconsequential offsides infraction erased a missed Oregon field goal when the Wildcats were only down one, and gave the Ducks a first down as the floodgates opened. Arizona's inability to stop Oregon's offense wasted a truly spectacular day from Nick Foles, who totaled 448 passing yards. Addicted To Quack keeps their postgame thoughts succinct:
After an evenly played first half, the Ducks game out blazing in the second half, outscoring the Wildcats 34-10. Josh Huff got it started with an electric 85 yard touchdown run, and the offense kept rolling from there. If the Cal game put any doubt in your mind about our place as the best team in the country, tonight's game told that doubt to shut the hell up.
AZ Desert Storm surprisingly pines for Matt Scott after Nick Foles throws for 448 yards against Oregon's defense. I can't help but feel they may be confusing causation and correlation:
Matt Scott has top-level ability with his arm and his legs. He has experience, and has a firm grasp of the offense. Even if Nick Foles has the best stats in the nation, it is meaningless if Arizona loses. This is the third week in a row that we've all had to read about how good Nick Foles performed in the loss. I'm sick of it. Matt Scott is a much better fit for this offense. Look at the stats. Not his stats, the overall rushing stats. In games in which Matt Scott started, the Arizona offense averaged 249 yards rushing. In games in which Nick Foles started, (Not including the Washington St. game, as he left the game early with an injury.), the Arizona offense averaged 108.9 yards rushing.
Yes, I'm looking ahead. How do you see Oregon faring against either Auburn or TCU?
Is there any reason to bench Nick Foles after he threw for seven times as many passing yards as Brock Mansion?
Stanford 38, Oregon St. 0
Yawn. Andrew Luck is ultra efficient. Stanford curb stops another overmatched opponent. Said overmatched opponent doesn't help themselves by unnecessarily turning the ball over. I'm not talking about this situation any more than I have to. Rule of Tree celebrates a BCS bid:
Boise State's overtime loss to Nevada on Friday coupled with LSU's 31-23 loss to Arkansas on Saturday afternoon paved the way for Stanford to jump into the top four of the BCS rankings--and thereby guarantee a BCS bid--with a win against Oregon State. The last part of the equation seemed far from a foregone conclusion, with Jim Harbaugh suggesting earlier this week that Stanford had no business being favored against the Beavers.
While Harbaugh's comments were nothing but motivational hogwash (Woo Pig Sooie!), OSU was coming off its best performance of the season, a rout of USC. As it turned out, the Beavers could've suited up former notable players Steven Jackson, Chad then-Johnson, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Nick Barnett, and it wouldn't have mattered.
Building The Dam sees the need for higher levels of talent in Corvallis:
What was reinforced, as Oregon St. faced their third top seven team, with another to come, and their fifth top tier quarterback, and lost to all of them, is that an injection of team speed is mandatory before the Beavers can hope to move into that next level. Waiting for some of this quality of opponents to graduate their stars won't work, as the kind of programs that are beating the Beavers will reload. Being beat up hasn't helped down the stretch, but it has underscored that quality depth is a problem, because there is no better alternative to struggling starters to turn to.
What's the higher number: Andrew Luck's draft position or average home attendance in Palo Alto? ZING! (What, me bitter?)
Would a 5-7 season and rivalry game drubbing cause the same level of fan angst and off-season soul searching in Corvallis as it has/will in Berkeley? What's the temperature in Beaver land?
Arizona St. 55, UCLA 34
Steven Threet was hurt early against UCLA, but Brock Osweiler, Cameron Marshall and special teams play helped ASU respond to a 17-0 deficit with a 55-10 run that put the game away early in the 4th quarter. House Of Sparky breaks down what should be an interesting off-season quarterback battle:
Osweiler's performance initiates yet another quarterback controversy in Tempe, following in the footsteps of the epic battle between Rudy Carpenter and Sam Keller in 2007. While Threet has performed ably in 2010, Osweiler was dominant against the Bruins defense.
Should Threet be available next week against Arizona, will he play? Osweiler may give the Sun Devils the best chance to defeat the Wildcats and take back the Territorial Cup. Either way, having two good quarterbacks is a good problem for Dennis Erickson and ASU to have. The execution of the situation is what truly matters.
Bruins Nation expects to see some changes in the coaching staff in the offseason:
When this season is over, CRN needs to seriously look at his coaching staff and make major changes. If Bullough or any Walker disciple is back, that is going to be a huge strike against CRN (and believe you me, if you think BN won't go after CRN like BN did KD, you're kidding yourself). CRN still has time to turn it around and right the ship, but this season has shown he will need to make some tough choices to move this program in the right direction, starting with revamping his coaching staff.
Who would you pick to QB the Sun Devils in the territorial cup?
State your case as to why UCLA should fire/retain Norm Chow and/or Chuck Bullough.
Notre Dame 20, USC 16
Notre Dame turned the ball over 4 times in their own territory . . . and USC only turned them into 3 field goals and one touchdown. Mitch Mustain was ineffectual, the Trojan running game did nothing, and Notre Dame's three long touchdown drives were enough, leading us to question if this sanction handicapped team has given up. Conquest Chronicles isn't in a good mood:
It would be easy to say that we now know why Mitch Mustain was never the starter but that is unfair. Playing on the practice squad while barely getting any real playing time in the last 3 1/2 years what could we have expected? Of course it wasn't all Mustain's fault our receivers dropped a number of passes...especially RoJo's sure game winning TD right there at the end.
Lets be clear, things are going to get worse with the sanctions really hitting us next year. I am not buying any of the rumors at this point. I really don't have much more to say.
USC: Better or worse in year 2 of NCAA sanctions?
NEXT WEEK
Thursday:
Arizona St. @ Arizona, 5:00 pm ESPN
Saturday:
Oregon @ Oregon St., 12:30 ABC
Washington @ Washington St., 4:00 Versus
USC @ UCLA, 7:30 FSN
It's rivalry week, which doesn't include the Big Game because Stanford admins are a bunch of weenies (or at least, that's how I understand it). The L.A. and Arizona schools play entirely for pride, as neither game should have any impact on bowl selections. But Washington St. can keep the Huskies away from the Holiday Bowl and Oregon St. has the opportunity to plunge the BCS system into potential chaos. So needless to say, GO BEAVERS!
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I just want to know, with all the talent UCLA has, how on earth are they so freaking awful?
Ravenous Ute may post on CGB, but please don’t mistake him for a Cal fan….
After watching the Auburn-Alabama game, I think there’s no hope of Oregon winning a national championship. No way the Duck defense is good enough to stop Cam Newton, and no way their offense can tire out the Tigers’ D. And if they actually play TCU, the Ducks may be in an even worse position. The Horned Frog D is stifling.
Sorry Oregon, your gimmicky option scheme won’t be enough to win your bowl game this year. But at least you’re going to one, and it may be the biggest one of all.
As for Arizona fans pining for the back-up, it’s just your typical fan overreaction. The Wildcats gain fewer rushing yards with Foles because his awesome QB talent allows the OC to call more passing plays that net big chunks of yardage. With Foles out, they have no choice but to run more. And lose more.
Best thing about this season — UCLA’s win at Texas. It was nice seeing a non-U$C Pac-10 team (and a UC no less) give Mack Brown, the Longhorns, their obnoxious fans, and the Big XII a huge smack-down. But a change in coaching staff may be in order. And the change probably ought to be at the very top. Karl Dorrell was fired after winning six games, including five in the Pac-10, in 2007. Rick Neuheisel has now been there for three years, and the team has regressed significantly. They’ve won just four games this season, three years after declaring, “the Football Monopoly in Los Angeles is Officially Over.” The Bruins have won no more than three conference games in any year under Neuheisel, and this year will likely be the worst yet after their Dec. 4 game against the Trojans. Rick just doesn’t have it. But I hope UCLA keeps him. It’s nice having a sure win on the schedule.
Second best thing about this season — U$C losing and losing and losing and losing and losing. They will be much, much worse in Year 2 of the NCAA Justice Era. They were already a bit thinner this year due, and that process will just continue next year. they’re losing C.J. Gable, Allen Bradford and Stanley Havili from their running back stable. And they’re losing their only viable back-up QB, Mitch Mustain. So they’re just one late hit or personal foul on Matt Barkley away from total offensive collapse.
Im reasonably certain that Stanley Havili is allowed 14 more years to play at USC.
Also, I’m reasonably certain they will destroy us on Thursday night.
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Also, I’m reasonably certain they will destroy us on Thursday night.
Of course Cals best seasons under Tedford would coincide with Pete Carrolls and SC’s dominance. Likewise, our worst seasons would also coincide with SC’s downfall, ensuring we still can’t beat SC or capitalize on their misfortune.
losing.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 29, 2010 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
Gimmicky? You’re right, they’re only one game away from being undefeated because it’s a gimmick. I have my doubts about their ability to stop Cam Newton just from a size standpoint (see Young, Vince, 2005 MNC game), but not because they’ve somehow fooled everyone about the true content of their offense.
As for SC, you’re probably right. I have but one nit to pick: Havili is a fullback. He is, without a doubt, the biggest loss from this year’s team.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
I agree, Oregon is for real, you just don’t win that many games with a “gimmick”. That’s a attempt to cheapen what they have done, and in my book, uncalled for.
Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?
I’m not saying Oregon is no good, and wouldn’t have won lots of games without having to rely on preventing defensive substitutions and such. Just that it’s a “novelty” scheme, if you like, and that it won’t work in their bowl game.
by Monica's Dad on Nov 29, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
The problem is that Auburn will have tons of time to prepare for the Oregon offense. The gimmick is less effective in that scenario. See Boise and Ohio State v Oregon.
That game against Boise State was the first for which Chip Kelly was the head coach, so I’m not wholly convinced by that example. The Rose Bowl game against Ohio State… in my mind, that was a few stupid mistakes from Oregon plus a stout defense from Ohio State and a rare moment of Tressell allowing Pryor to play to his strengths, but to be honest I don’t pay as close attention when it’s not my team (there might have been pizza and beer to focus on, for example.)
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Rick just doesn’t have it. But I hope UCLA keeps him
Don’t you read BN? The bruins are victims of pernicious and vindictive consipracies perpetrated by $C to keep them down. If it weren’t for those meddling “Trogans” Ucla would have been undefeated in the last three years!
Calmer than you are.
I wouldn't get to excited about SC
Second best thing about this season — U$C losing and losing and losing and losing and losing. They will be much, much worse in Year 2 of the NCAA Justice Era. They were already a bit thinner this year due, and that process will just continue next year. they’re losing C.J. Gable, Allen Bradford and Stanley Havili from their running back stable
Despite them losing and losing and losing they still managed to destroy us.
Losing Allen and Gable are no big deal. Gable has hardly seen the field the last three seasons at SC and Allen was mostly fazed out of the offense after the UW and stanfurd games. They seemed to hand the RB position off to Marc Tyler. Havili will be missed at SC
I do agree with what you wrote regarding UCLA and Texas.
Can we hope for an impassioned plea by Wisconsin before the final poll comes out?
Haha. >:)
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FUCK STANFURD.
Before AZ fans bench Nick Foles...
…they better find a position he can play on defense. WTF ???? He put up 29 points, for God’s sakes. How many freakin’ games are you going to win when the other team scores 48? Desert Storm should shut the $#%@ up.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
Arizona defense was the most overrated unit in the entire Pac10, sadly we couldn't score
a TD against them and had to settle for five FG’s! I hate Arizona!
What I STILL don't get....
…is Cal fans rooting against Oregon going to the Championship game. I GET rootin’ against Furd’s BCS bid (which I’m not, btw), but Oregon? They already beat us; why wouldn’t we want the Pac-10 represented in the championship? It’s better for ALL of us (and I’m not talking about the $) to have our conference win it all. F#ck, this is our chance to tell the SEC to stuff it, even tho we didn’t have the advantage of a conference championship game. Remember a few years ago when the Pac went 5 for 5 in bowl games and how much cred that gave us????
I know we’ve beatin’ this dead horse, but it’s time to swallow our pride and root for the conference, IMHO.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
Having to deal with their smug asses for the rest of eternity is good for no one!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 29, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Theyll be smug regardless of which bowl they play or the outcome. After all, getting their clocks cleaned by tOSU didn’t serve up any humility last year.
Calmer than you are.
by SoCal Oski on Nov 29, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
You must have missed the memo that OSU somehow was able to steal their hand signals
or some sort of excuse like that.
Obviously, them losing to OSU had nothing to do with the OSU defense or Pryor looking like Vince Young.
by SDBear on Nov 29, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, right. Thanks. I didn’t get that edition of the Duck’s excuses memo :)
Calmer than you are.
by SoCal Oski on Nov 29, 2010 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
Yeah, that is why they have those super cool poster boards now
I bet you thought Nike just made those poster boards didn’t you?!?!
NOPE! The world is against the Ducks. Stealing hand signals, faking injuries, putting laptops in their QB’s dorm, strangling their star RB’s GF! All a large conspiracy to bring down Nike U.
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/178891-ducks-may-have-had-signals-cracked-last-season
A quik web search and you can read a lot of articles about this topic.
Well, many were rooting against Oregon because it meant that they would go to the Rose Bowl and Stanford wouldn’t. Now that Stanford seems tied into the BCS top four that reason doesn’t exist.
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I’m all for Stanford going to a B©S bowl, just not the Rose Bowl. My jealousy at their playing in the RB would be overwhelming, but for the other bowls I actually feel fine with that.
USC should've won that game...
… but their WRs had worse drops than Cal. It’s almost as if they’ve never played in rain before.
In other words, Go Bears!
You know how LA people panic when water falls from the sky.
"it's like an alarm clock, WOOT WOOT!" -Bubb Rubb
by secret ASian man on Nov 29, 2010 1:00 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
1) RoJo is from Michigan, which makes it even worse.
2) Various friends and message board associates were bitching about how the weather was a health hazard for older alums, getting people sick, etc. It was 50F and raining, you lightweights!
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Gator Aide showers in southern California more dangerous...
George Allen the then former and older NFL coach of some fame took up being the coach of Cal State Long Beach in 1990 and supposedly the gator-aide dumped on him at the last game contributed to his soon to follow death.
alaska A currently residing in northern Idaho.
I know he's not exactly a hot commodity right now
But I must admit to being a little intrigued by the prospect—however remote and requiring a pair of firings/resignations—of Norm Chow coming to Cal and partnering with Tedford.
Is there a 1% chance of this happening, or a 0% chance? What type of relationship do Tedford and Chow have?
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Nov 29, 2010 1:33 PM PST reply actions
I thought that Chow just got a contract extension at UCLA.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
His job at UCLA is still up in the air according to LA news outlets
LOS ANGELES ANGELS . . . ANAHEIM DUCKS . . . CALIFORNIA GOLDEN BEARS
FUCK STANFURD.
Norm Chow had the good fortune of the greatest cadre of offensive talent this decade drop into his lap
Now that he doesn’t have that, you can see he’s no different than anyone else.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 29, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
So the results at BYU were just a fluke?
Chow didn’t just get hired at SC because he wandered in off the street and seemed like a nice guy. (That was Carroll.) Chow had done sound work at BYU previously.
Why it is that Chow has not been able to succeed at UCLA I don’t know, but it’s unlikely that he alone is creating a cadre of offensive players who don’t seem to respond to coaching.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Not to mention SC was never able to duplicate their offensive success after he left
despite still having quality talent and athletes across the board.
As it stands I am willing to give Chow the benefit of the doubt and say his failures are more the fault of a bad OL (as Cal fans, we should know all about this) and RN not being a very good HC.
Come on, Chow isn’t blameless here. He’s done nothing with the guys he’s had at UCLA. Craft, Prince, Brehaut all have looked or look like total flops. He’s supposed to be developing these guys too.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 29, 2010 3:49 PM PST up reply actions
You are right, as the QB coach/OC Norm Chow should be doing a better job
with the QB’s. I have seen very little to none at all from the three players you just listed.
Maybe not, but last time I checked, Chow wasn’t responsible for the porous offensive line. You don’t think that’s had something to do with it?
If it turned out that Chow were solely responsible for recruiting those kids and Neuheisel hasn’t been intervening, then I would say Chow has the bulk of the responsibility, but no team gets that inconsistent from the influence of one man.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
Well, Chow left after the 2004 season, and while we all know that 2005 didn’t happen, if it had happened, I think the success on offense was in large part because of Chow’s tutelage of Leinart, who did a lot of play-calling from the line of scrimmage.
When SC resumed playing football in 2006, after their hiatus, you had the combination of less able players and the somewhat questionable approach of having two assistants calling plays on offense, and it did all go a bit south.
"When the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea"
I love how your own coach admits that he had a player fake an injury and you still want to act like it is a conspiracy theory by Duck fans. It’s that kind of s*** that makes us Duck fans smug when it comes to your fan base. Enjoy the holidays at home!
….what?
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