Cal Basketball vs. Sonoma State Exhibition Thread
by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 10, 2010 7:00 PM PST
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Preview links: Point guards, wings (shooting guards and small forwards), big men (power forwards and centers), season expectations, practice report.
Starting lineup: Montgomery hinted at Allen Crabbe and Gary Franklin playing the wing positions in his presser. Jorge Gutierrez will start at point guard, and Harper Kamp would play at power forward and Markhuri Sanders-Frison at center.
Start getting used to...slower-paced games. With Jerome Randle, Patrick Christopher and Theo Robertson, Cal was always a pretty good fastbreak team when they got their opportunities. This year, we don't have anyone who will have any breakaway movement. If we get turnovers, expect us to walk the ball up the court rather than push the pace. In other words, don't expect aesthetically pleasing hoops. Expect mudfights.
Quick looks at each players
Sanders-Frison. We get our first look at the slimmed-down Markhuri. He worked all offseason to improve his core strength, particularly on his always injured back.
Gutierrez. See how well he can handle the ball going up the court or how well. Montgomery has said he's worried if he can handle all these responsibilities (in addition to being a lockdown defender). Jorge laughed it off at the presser and said he didn't understand Coach's concerns, but we'll get our first taste of whether Monty's concerns are justified.
Kamp. Defense, Bears, defense. It'll just be good to see Harper back on the court doing his thing. He's probably not going to be as polished offensively as Jamal Boykin was last season, but he can definitely defend.
Crabbe. In practice, he has reportedly been very tentative and has passed up shot opportunities; Coach Montgomery has constantly urged him to get more aggressive. This will be our first look at whether Crabbe can shake it off and build up his confidence. Down the road, we're need Crabbe to score.
Franklin. Almost the exact opposite of Crabbe, Franklin has been quite happy to take any shot he can get his hands on (and you're soon going to get your first look at one of the funkiest releases in college hoops). They admitted in their joint press conference that they could learn a little bit from each other (Crabbe being more aggressive, Franklin being more conscientious of when he should or shouldn't be taking a shot). Franklin will probably be playing the two-guard most of this season, but could see some minutes at the point against zone defenses.
Brandon Smith. He's our backup point guard. How will he handle the responsibility? He definitely has what it takes to be a pest defensively, but can he make good decisions with the ball with the second unit? He'll be playing with a bunch of freshmen, so it'll be a tough assignment for him.
Bak Bak. Monty admitted that Bak will probably be our third main post player behind Sanders-Frison and Kamp, which will probably mean Richard Solomon and Robert Thurman provide the second age. Bak showed some impressive range in practice.
Solomon. Dude's long. He'll probably put the ball on the floor and drive on offense. Body-wise, he reminds me a lot of Anthony Randolph, to be honest.
Nigel Carter. Carter's going to have to eat a lot of minutes this year. I thought he made some good decisions in practice, but against other teams it's anyone's guess what he can do. I'm rooting for the walk-on to make some noise.
Thurman. Biggest guy on our team. Can he bring anything to the table?
Emerson Murray. Hasn't practiced much, so not expecting much for a few games.
Justin Cobbs. I'm not sure if he can play, but I believe all the Golden Bears suited up for the exhibition last year regardless of eligibility. Can someone check up on this?
Your Sonoma State fact of the day. Courtesy of Wikipedia.
The Sonoma State mascot is Lobo the Seawolf, lobo being Spanish for ‘wolf’. The mascot is derived from the Jack London novel entitled The Sea-Wolf in which the protagonist is pressed into service aboard a boat captained by a man named "Wolf". The mascot was taken from the book for London’s ties with Sonoma County, specifically the nearby town of Glen Ellen. Some resent the fact that the mascot is not a representation of a real animal and sometimes choose to equate it more readily to the Seawolf class attack submarine in the United States Navy.
The previous mascot of Sonoma State University was the Cossack, an eastern European community of fur traders known for superior horsemanship and ferocity in battle. The Cossacks held ties to the area through the 1812 fur trading posts at Fort Ross. This mascot was to be removed in the fall of 2002 by a vote of the academic senate after the mascot was deemed offensive to Jewish and women’s groups on campus. This being due to the fact that Cossacks were reportedly notorious for historically oppressing Jewish people and women.
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Cobbs can't play - transfer
He practices with the team, but can’t play in games. I don’t think he will suit up.
woops, i meant channelsurfing.net haha.
no cal bear? no care
by EchoOfSilence on Nov 10, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions
Lineup
It’s interesting, funny… Monty is going with exactly who we thought he would 6 months ago. The two highest rated recruits, plus Gut, Kamp, MSF….
No, I just say that whenever he does something good
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
Hmm… seems just like the team is getting used to the game. 15-10, I think…. Crabbe has 10 points
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
13:42 left
They are just playing…
Bak came in for MSF and Nigel Carter came in for Franklin.
Franklin and Crabbe have both launched a couple 3’s, making 3 of 4.
Nigel bricked a 3 and Jorge just made one.
cz
20-18 Cal. Smith at the FT line for 1/1.
Our perimeter D is poor. Not fighting through screens, not closing out shooters.
Having trouble w/ their press with Smith running the point.
Old Toothwrangler
Jorge said NO to the trap
Brandon and Emerson were ready to be trapped, but Jorge just went past everyone.
Solomon looked bad on that one down low.
Lost feet catching it down there, not sure what to do so threw it up and got swatted.
Man, Sonoma State really loves the 3
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
Not much else they can really do. That’s a good sign
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
does anybody know the score?
What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?
50-40 Cal
They’ve been hitting all these threes… most are contested
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
Nice communication between MSF and Kamp
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:19 PM PST up reply actions
Brandon Smith and Jorge in the game at same time
Let’s see how this works.
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
It’s been at least a minute without a TO.
Win!
The last time Smith came in to run the point, it was TO’s in back to back possessions.
Old Toothwrangler
He was manning the point for awhile. It was just when he came in for the first possession.
Five
by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:22 PM PST up reply actions
HALF: 52-44 Cal
Both teams shooting 47%. Sonoma has hit 9 3-pointers.
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
How about this lineup?
Just for athletic potential (not experience or intensity):
Franklin at Pt
Emerson at 2
Crabbe at 3
Solomon at 4
Dwight Powell at 5, Oh, sorry – we missed in recruiting him.
Josh Smith at 5. Oh, sorry… UCLA
Enes Kanter at the 5… Oh forget it – put Rossi in and just run and shoot all damn night!
He made a nice little post move in the 1H but didn’t finish. Oh welpz.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:34 PM PST up reply actions
WHERE'S MAX WHEN YOU NEED HIM
(China)
Five
by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:33 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t believe that guy didn’t pick it up.
(White men can’t jump)
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions
It hurts, man. I’m whiter than white.
Five
by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
lol, no. you can see his pic on sbn.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions
haha, he changed it to become a mod.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Avinash is an idea.
And you can’t kill an idea.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
So I’ve only watched 3 minutes and it’s Sonoma St., but Crabbe has looked goooooood.
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‘Dancing’ is a bit of an exaggeration. More like vaguely rhythmic arm swaying.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
I mean, it couldn’t have been THAT bad. He did go up and down the floor on it.
Looks like a tweak, but he may have to take the first game off to be sure.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
When did Sonoma State become the "Seawolves"?
Didn’t they used to be the “Cossacks”? Was there pressure from the Cossack community to change it or something?
Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.
he previous mascot of Sonoma State University was the Cossack, an eastern European community of fur traders known for superior horsemanship and ferocity in battle. The Cossacks held ties to the area through the 1812 fur trading posts at Fort Ross. This mascot was to be removed in the fall of 2002 by a vote of the academic senate after the mascot was deemed offensive to Jewish and women’s groups on campus. This being due to the fact that Cossacks were reportedly notorious for historically oppressing Jewish people and women.
from wikipedia
Kinda like how Cal used to be the California Golden Mensheviks.
Big backlash from the Menshevik commmunity
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know why, but this comment absolutely slayed me.
You dirty Trotskyite.
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4 3's for Crabbe
Reminds me of that 6-7 white dude from Chicago who also had 4 3’s in his Cal debut. Let’s hope Cal does a bit better than him (obviously, he was forgetable).
Well, we got a new 6'4" white dude from Chicago
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions
EV serviceable?
Uh, no.
He was 4-4 in his debut. Disappeared for 4 years and then made some big game winning shot near the very end of his tenure – was that in the Pac 10 tourney?
He was talking about Jerome Randle.
use that little ‘up’ button to see what each comment is referring to
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
That was pretty impressive from the tough angle. It was surprising for me to learn that he has as much range as he evidently does.
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Years of shooting deflated balls into waste baskets in Mauritania or wherever he’s from
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Brandon Smith realllly can’t deal with the press
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
That’s what I was thinking. Kinda the same thing with Jerome.
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
well, it’s definitely not his speed
Five
by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
Sea Wolves is a weird mascot. If you’re going to be named after something that doesn’t exist, at least pick something cool sounding like land sharks.
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Me likey
I like the balance of this class.
Now we just need a big fat white center who likes to piss people off!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
The reincarnation of Greg Ostertag
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
Yeah, he’s confident and looks pretty smooth. I just started right around Weezer time.
by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions
Then an airball… Murray gets a nice three at the buzzer
by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions
I think maybe Franklin could stand to be a bit more selective.
by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
He was doing fine most of the game. Not worried about it.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I guess things probably also get a bit more loosey-goosey when you’re up by 25 at the end of an exhibition game.
by atomsareenough on Nov 10, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
Wow, 106-76. This wasn’t the team we’d expect to be breaking the century mark, even in an exhibition game.
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That was fun
Thank God my commute home is already complete!
And I even got to put the little one to bed.
Technology was definitely my friend tonight!
It may be a little rough and up and down this year, but...
once these guys become vets…. well, we could see some Boom!(tho)
Five
probably won’t be available anywhere but calbears.com … i’d just check tomorrow
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 10, 2010 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Funny
At the end of the broadcast, the mic was left open and Roxie and Todd were chatting.
St. Mary’s and St. Johns play at 11pm on Monday in Moraga. Wow. Yes, 11 PM tip time. On ESPN.
Todd thinks Franklin is a wild card b/c he chucks so many shots. Roxie responded to that slight in a positive way, “He’s not going to be afraid.”
Todd wants to see Crabbe learn to use his length defensively.
Emerson Murray
Murray has been hurt with a nagging wrist injury.
When’s he’s heathy given the chance to play regularly he shines under pressure.
I watched him in the Cal game and he’s not 100%.
He was hesitating and one can only wonder what playing hurt does to your confidence.
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