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Oregon State 35, California 7: All Scheme, No Fundamentals

When Jeff Tedford became the head coach of the California Golden Bears, the schemes that were implemented on both sides of the ball were really simple. We pounded the ball down people's throats to set up the pass with our power blocking schemes--it was bruising and effective. On defense, we played primarily zone defensive coverages to stop the run and make opposing quarterbacks throw 3rd and long. For many years, this was a formula for success that resulted in many winning seasons, with mostly competitive losses. Say what you want about Tedford's teams pre-2009, but if they lost, it was generally because the other team earned it from snap to finish.

Not the case the past two years. Why is that? 

People have complained about the Tedford playbook for our quarterbacks being too complex based on our recent struggles with Kevin Riley (and even further back, Nate Longshore). While I think it can be somewhat of a problem, there seem to be more glaring issues. Two units in particular--the offensive line and the defense--aren't being coached well and aren't being put in positions to succeed.

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Offensive line

First, the departure of Coach Michalczik to the Raiders has been mentioned about a hundred thousand times, but it bears mentioning again. We had some average offensive linemen physically when Coach M was around (and some definite gems, but not always), but they performed pretty well. Why? Simple schemes that allowed the players to focus on executing.  There were talented players for sure, but even when our offensive line didn't have the greatest units, they were able to execute well enough to keep our offense semi-productive.

Coach Steve Marshall has been a pretty good recruiter, but right now whatever he's teaching his players isn't working. Guys aren't getting good leverage, people aren't getting off the snap right, and they're being asked to execute too many schemes. They're asked to run outside zone, some inside zone, and a lot of power. They aren't particularly good at any of them. Perhaps it's too much for them to handle. Perhaps they're not conditioned as well. But they shouldn't be playing THIS badly.

They're all committing too many fundamental errors.  They're getting blown up by defensive linemen and left chasing them into the backfield. They're committing bad penalties (snap infractions, holdings, crackback blocks, etc.), some when Shane Vereen has already run way past them or almost immediately off the snap. They're leaving guys unblocked (a cardinal error everywhere) to come careening at the quarterback or running back. It's insane. I've never seen a Cal offensive line look so lost, and this has been going on two years running.

Cali49a (who follows line play better than me) illuminated some of these issues.

The right side of the line and the center (the starters) are so weak, I don’t even know where to start. It is not a good sign when you can see your OLine’s numbers or them looking backwards as a defender blows right by them. Holding penalties, multiple false starts, allowing defenders to shoot gaps to stop runs for losses. That happened way too much today and until that stops, this offense is going to continue to struggle. It’s the same OL suspects in Cal’s losses that struggle mightily.

IMHO, Mitchell Schwartz is doing ok. He makes some mistakes but not nearly enough that warrants my attention. Brian Schwenke has quietly improved over the past 6 weeks. Most improved OL imo. Chris Guarnero. It’s time to sit on the bench. Dominic Galas plays with fire in his belly and despite the penalties gives Cal more than Guarnero. Justin Cheadle. Time to join Guarnero on the bench. Richard Fisher is dying to get on the field and he knows his assignments. Donovan Edwards. Time to join the other two guys. Matt Summers-Gavin is not a tackle. Move him back to guard or keep him on the outside and provide him with more help on obvious pass plays.

The OLine needs to play with a mean streak every game. Only a few of the OL guys play with a mean streak every snap. You can probably guess who they are. But there is no way Cal can beat the big boys when big uglies up front can’t get their act together.

Perhaps the talent on the offensive line is weaker than it has been (i.e. no Alex Mack types on this unit). But the coaches should still be able to find a way to utilize their talents properly and have them executing proper technique. Right now our offensive line just continues to make mistakes against strong defensive coaches (Oregon State twice, USC twice, Washington once, Oregon once). We shouldn't be going three and out with all the talent we have  at the skill positions. Our quarterbacks should not be running for their lives against good opponents and continuously dealing with collapsing pockets. Our tailbacks should not be getting stuffed in the backfield the moment they get the ball.

Tedford has said that offensive line changes will be made next week. But for me, it starts with Marshall. Whatever progress he's made on the recruiting front, he's completely undone it with his in-game coaching and practice preparation. We might have a bottom-tier executing offensive line in the Pac-10, and that's very much on him.

Defense

Eight games through, I've seen all I need to of Clancy Pendergast's vaunted aggressive schemes. And I've come to a verdict. I don't like his defense.

I've noticed a rather disturbing trend. When Cal scores first, our defense plays very well. Our players gets more confident and our blitzes tend to disrupt the offense. Our defenders play closer in and get inside the quarterback's head. They've had five games like that, two against Pac-10 bottom feeders (UCLA and Arizona State), one against a good opponent (Arizona), and two against overmatched units.

But when the opposition scores first? Open the floodgates. Because we start panicking and overcompensating. Eventually the discipline in our unit breaks down and opposing offenses take immediate advantage. All in all, we've given up 45 points a game when we fall behind first. Yikes.

Here are some of the things that go wrong.

We overpursue and give up huge runs both inside and outside. Jacquizz Rodgers killed us on several occasions yesterday when he feinted inside to bring the cornerback in (Steve Williams on one occasion, Marc Anthony on a few others), and then bounced to the outside. When the Beavers ran their zone schemes inside, the inside linebackers ran into the line and out of the play. Who's looking forward to the Oregon game and trying to shut down LaMichael James?

This unit isn't much different from the one that held Quizz down last season, and the Beaver offensive line isn't that much better. That Rodgers so casually dominated us yesterday is baffling and unacceptable.

We find ourselves prone to misdirection.
Think of all the reverses Oregon State ran successfully yesterday. The fly sweeps from Markus Wheaton were successful as always as the outside defender bit inside on the run at least once or twice. Because our guys are always trying to be aggressive and get into the backfield, our defensive discipline breaks down and we give up huge gains, particularly to the outside and to the flats.

When our all-out blitzes don't get at the quarterback, we get burned. Witness the first passing play where Cal sent plenty of guys at Ryan Katz and Katz swung the ball out to a wide open Rodgers, who scooted easily down the sidelines for a first down. Remember the all-out blitz when four Cal defenders went straight for the quarterback and Katz simply floated the ball over the heads of the defenders into Joe Halahuni's waiting hands on the screen. Halahuni then dashed into the end zone to make it 28-0. These are the perils of blitzing with too many players.

Sorry, but if I have to choose between a disciplined Bob Gregory defense that hemorrhages yards but generally holds down the points (I will always believe 2009 was an anomaly given the sparse back defense we had to use) and a Pendergast defense that feasts on bad teams and gets feasted upon by good ones, then I'll gladly take the former. Or better yet, something in between. Going from extreme to extreme isn't really helping matters, and making what looks like a fairly competent defense look great at times and absolutely hopeless at others.

I'm hoping Pendergast can adapt by next season and tone down the aggressive nature of his schemes. Because smart coaches and smart quarterbacks have been beating it up.

Conclusion: So what's the commonality between Pendergast and Marshall? These guys are pro coaches.

Marshall hasn't coached in college in eight years. Pendergast hasn't coached in college in 18 years. Do you think there might be a bit of a disconnect between what the coaches are trying to implement and what the players are capable of executing?

See, in the NFL scheme is much more important than technique. Almost anyone who makes it to the pros already has pretty sound mechanics and development. There's more of an emphasis on getting players to establish big playbooks to outscheme the opponent and run a greater diversity of plays. You can't do that in college. Guys only have a very limited set of hours to practice with coaches (witness how many teams have moved to simpler spread concepts to work more on executing the gameplan). Things have to be simple.

I'm not sure if Pendergast or Marshall have figured out that it's not the same on the college level. Even Pendergast admitted in his press conferences that he's tried his best to adjust to the lack of practice time to implement the new defenses. Schemes like Pendergast's take time to put in place, and that's one thing college players don't have (as compared to pro players, who are in a 9 to 5 grind on practicing this stuff).  Marshall's schemes were supposed to take awhile to implement.  Twenty-one games into his tenure though, it doesn't seem like there's been any improvement from the players that have been going out there game-in, game-out.

(For an example on how to do it right on the college level, take a look at Oregon State, which has THREE WALK-ONS on their offensive line, yet dominated a talented Cal front seven for most of the game without much problem. They're executing things right, we're not.)

Yes, Marshall and Pendergast have proven to be able recruiters based on their pro credentials attracting young high school blue chippers. But can we trust them to develop our players when they get here? I'm not sure if they're on the same page with their players, who seem to be unable to adjust when the going gets tough. There's too much scheming and not enough teaching.

Frankly, I don't think Tedford is going to be able to stand for performances like 35-7 much longer and first halves like what's taken place against USC and Oregon State, where we've been flat-out uncompetitive.  It's time for Cal to reconsider returning to its roots. If we do lose Marshall and Pendergast, I'd seriously consider going back to college coaches (see what Jeff Genyk has done for our special teams!) who understand the rhythms of the college game and know how to make successful units tick at this level. Right now we're trying to be a pro team in a world of amateurs, and it's not working. It's got to change.

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i like your argument and the logic you are using.

Tedford is a great leader. He has greatly underachieved the last few years, but I trust in Tedford, that he won’t tolerate such blowout losses next season. It’s probably difficult to make changes at this point in season. So next year, he should make coaching or scheming changes.

by JustBear on Oct 30, 2010 10:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Tedford "great"?

That I hardly follow Cal football probably should prevent me from any comments about Tedford, but…

If Tedford is so great or even good, what is going on with his teams the last couple of years? I would think that by now his program would be on pretty solid ground, where, if he is a good coach, the ups would be more frequent than the downs. However, Cal football appears to be regressing, with humiliating blowout losses becoming common.

The schedule ahead looks pretty daunting, so we may be in for more of the same in the last weeks of the season.

Has the upgrading of the conference elsewhere simply passed Tedford by?

by Jimes-boy on Oct 30, 2010 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

The fact that you hardly follow Cal should answer the question. Don’t talk about what you don’t know.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 30, 2010 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

He makes a fair point roys…

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 30, 2010 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, as i said, he has greatly underachieved the last few years. obviously not a great leader the last few years.
but from his record, he has proven to be a capable leader, a great one. so im hoping he can put it together in some ways.

by JustBear on Oct 30, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part I

What a miserable game. I stand by my opinion that the hit on Riley was a cheap shot. The guy seemed to have purposefully gone for the knee. But then again it was on the opposite side and the replay sucked. The officiating was by far the worst I’ve ever seen in my decade or so of watching football. That late hit out of bounds? That’s just out right cheating by the refs. It was almost a joke in the Cal section after any good play by Cal everyone would go “Ok where’s the flag now?” and funny enough there was one more often than not.

That said we committed way too many legitimate penalties. The false starts, the holdings, the illegal blocks, etc. It’s just ridiculous. The team was just not focused. Completely fucking terrible.

Avi I agree 100% with you on Pendergast. I never wanted Gregory gone (where the fuck are you now, you Gregory haters). Despite his faults he rarely got us blown out. I’m completely unimpressed with his schemes. Sure they looked world beating vs. the likes of Davis, Colorado, UCLA and ASU but there’s a reason why one of them is an FBS team (starting a newbie at QB BTW) and the other three have coaches in the hot seat. The only genuinely good performance was vs Arizona. It seems to me that everyone has read Cal’s defense and they all have a roadmap to beating us.

I had people jump on my case last week for suggesting that I build firestevemarshall.com (domain is taken btw) but I stand by it. I can’t say that he is the worst position coach but he has done nothing (outside of recruiting) that has proven otherwise. His lines can’t pass block and can only run block against the weaker opponents sometimes). Riley and Best can blame the line for their injuries without a doubt. They are undisciplined (how many fucking false starts can you make and stop holding everyone), and they don’t seem to be playing at a Pac-10 level.

Tight end playing seems to have regressed. Maybe Alamar is better that TEs than Genyk? Yikes.

I always thought that Ludwig did a decent job (I didn’t like Cignetti) until today. How many fucking times do you call the same pass play? And it never works.

I hate to say this but I think our myth of homefield advantage is broken this year. And we are looking at a home Big Game loss and our first losing season under Tedford. I don’t see us touching Oregon or Furd. UW will probably beat us. And right now it’s 60% that WSU beats us. I’m calling it: 4-8 or at best 5-7 (UW being the toss up).

I forsee Tedford getting some rough words but nothing much more for the next year. Marhsall is probably gone (yay!). Pendergast probably stays (boo) and Ludwig is also probably sadly gone.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 30, 2010 11:30 PM PDT reply actions  

Y’know, someone could have thought that Gregory was not the right coach and still not be a Pendergast fan either. It’s not an either/or situation.

by boomtho on Oct 31, 2010 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Riley and Best can blame the line for their injuries without a doubt.

Best was flipped up high in the air in the end zone. That isn’t directly attributable to the O-line.

by atomsareenough on Oct 31, 2010 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

No it wasn’t directly but it was due to the lack of push from his O-line that he resorted to leaping (yea I know he was prone to do that but he had literally nothing else on that day)

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 31, 2010 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

He had ran about 7 or so yards at that point. It wasnt like he lept OVER the line. I know as it occured right in front of me.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 31, 2010 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think royrules is saying that with the O-line struggling, Best was prone to taking more risks to put points on the board, hence jumping into the end zone. I’m not sure about this thesis, but I can see why he’d feel this way.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 31, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

I know the OLine was struggling in that game, but I dont think that that is the best play, in specific, to illustrate that.

The play came out of the Wildcat and Best ran around the right side. There was not a lot of space as he came close to the goal-line, but as he was well outside of the tackles, the role of the O-Line had diminished somewhat once Best got out in space.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 31, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

This. I’m not saying that the O-line was directly involved in the injury but it played a part

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 31, 2010 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think JT will be a great offensive coordinator or head coach in the NFL, but the college game was clearly not for him. Tedford is a professional and expects a professional performance from his players. His players are 18-23 years old. Somewhere along the way he forgot about that.

by The Hombre on Oct 30, 2010 11:32 PM PDT reply actions  

Wait what!? Did you forget about Cal circa 2002-2006 (and even 2008)? How is the Pac-10 coach of the year (2002 and 2004?) not a college head coach? He is the third winnigest coach in Cal history and the winningest in modern Cal history.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 30, 2010 11:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

And his current record with Cal is actually 10 games better than Riley’s over at OSU.

by mrjpark on Oct 31, 2010 1:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

2008 Road Games:

@WSU 66-3 W
@Maryland 35-37 L
@Arizona 42-27 L
@USC 17-3 L
@OSU 34-21 L

I understand that Tedford was a completed pass away from a Rose Bowl and perhaps NC game appearance, but so was Bruce Snyder in 1991.

When teams come out flat in big games its because of coaching. You play how you practice.

by The Hombre on Oct 31, 2010 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I understand that Tedford was a completed pass away from a Rose Bowl and perhaps NC game appearance, but so was Bruce Snyder in 1991.

Not after getting our ass kicked in the Big Game we weren’t.

Yes, I am an Old Blue. Now get off my lawn.

by Ohio Bear on Oct 31, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Washington and Cal would each finish with 1 loss. Cal goes to the Rose Bowl.

by The Hombre on Oct 31, 2010 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Point taken

But if we’re going there, it’s only fair to point out that Tedford also was a shoe size away from going to the Rose Bowl in 2006.

That said, and though I am by and large a Tedford defender, I have seen enough in the last couple of years to agree that coaching must take some blame for what has happened to us on the big stage and on the road. The “[insert large number] disappointed fans” mentality that Tedford’s teams had in the early years isn’t with the program anymore.

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by Ohio Bear on Oct 31, 2010 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Part II

I almost left the game before the clock ticked 0:00 today. I wanted to so badly but the fact that the shuttle to the Fairgrounds (where I parked) didn’t start until the game was over held me up. My head was killing me (I’m surprised I drove back with the killer headache) and our last TD was the only thing that mitigated the failure that was today.And that fucking speeding ticket. Anyone know of a way to make this ticket not go on my record (state of WA)? This was my first ever ticket. Dammit.

I never thought I’d do this but I don’t think I’m going to the WSU game. All joking about road games and me aside I don’t think I can do anymore 6 hour drives (x2 in a day) for a long time now. I’m just not interested anymore. I’m still making it to the Oregon, Furd and UW games because I’ve already got my flight tickets but meh.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 30, 2010 11:34 PM PDT reply actions  

Well, if the ticket not going on your record is your highest priority, you can look into doing traffic school. I don’t know exactly what the rule is in WA, but I believe in CA they let you do traffic school for one moving violation every 18 months, so it won’t go on your record or affect your insurance rates. I believe it involves a “no contest” plea. Look into it.

by atomsareenough on Oct 31, 2010 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

Berkelium97...

When you said this:

That screaming in one of the OSU halls them mentioned a few minutes ago…

…that’s royrules

Did you actually see me on TV? Cause I made a fool of myself a couple of times today yelling at the refs

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 30, 2010 11:35 PM PDT reply actions  

The TV announcers mentioned a story about how one of the buildings on the OSU campus is haunted by a screaming ghost.

by GeoFreak on Oct 30, 2010 11:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 30, 2010 11:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

So, you’re a ghost?

Cal Football: I loved them once and they broke my heart. Let that be a lesson to you. Never love anything.

by CalBandGreat on Oct 31, 2010 2:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’re just glad you’re still alive.

I was afraid you’d burst a blood vessel in your head or something.

Old Toothwrangler

by Kodiak on Oct 31, 2010 5:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

It almost did

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 31, 2010 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m surprised at how much I agree with you. Rec’d!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 30, 2010 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

One bad season may be enough to warm a seat, but we still have a non-losing record and JT’s had a history of success (relatively), so I think it would take 3-4 bad seasons for the hot seat.

by sec119 on Oct 31, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah.

One thing about Cal fans are that they tend to be some of the most fickle fans you’ll see. You have the die hard fans like you do in any school, but I feel like there’s just this overall lack of actually caring. For instance, when I was drinking and watching the game over at Raleigh’s, I here some cheering and laughing when Riley gets injured by people who are like “Finally, we can use another QB!” As soon as Cal does bad, the fans demand that somebody leave or somebody get replaced, there’s no patience here. And it’s not only Cal, really, it’s mostly a problem with the state of California since we’re a state that follows pro sports more than college. As soon as your university starts doing a little worse, all the effort and money and time that was spent in building the team to its current state was a waste.

In my book, Tedford has done enough to keep his job for a couple more years. Don’t forget that he took us to the #1 ranking in the nation for 10 minutes before injuries and character issues pulled us apart. That’s one thing Riley doesn’t have to worry about over at OSU; 2 star recruits tend to create much less locker room and on the field character issues than 4 star recruits who think they’re the shit. Quite honestly, I don’t think it’s Tedford. It’s Marshall. All of our deficiencies root back to our offensive line.

1. Our QB’s are always scrambling, getting hit, and getting sacked; they never have enough time to throw the ball. While Riley does hesitate and take too much time, the offensive line doesn’t help him at all. When they don’t suck, his performance usually picks up and we have a good offensive performance because of #2.

2. Our offensive line doesn’t give our running backs enough time to get the ball and find a hole. They usually have to make at least one guy miss in the back field before they can cross the line of scrimmage. If the offensive line can play stronger and more physical — run blocking’s supposed to be easier than pass blocking — then the running backs will be able to do their thing. Basically, we have all the pieces for a balanced offense, but we need the line to perform up to par if they’re going to come together.

3. Our defense’s aggressiveness backfires when they’re on the field the WHOLE TIME. As you continue to blitz over and over again, people will begin to lose their assignments and you’ll have blown coverages. Especially in a complex scheme that you’re still technically learning. A better offensive line lets us run the ball more, keep possession of the ball longer, score more, etc. It keeps the defense off the field and takes pressure off of them because all of a sudden, the team’s not depending on the defense making big plays anymore. In the blowout games against USC and OSU — not Nevada so much — I feel like our defense panicked in the first half because they thought it was all upon them to make a big play and turn the game around. After half time, the coach calms them down and tells them to play more disciplined, and — in addition to the other team taking their foot off the pedal a little — the defense comes out and plays better. But none of this would be a problem if they weren’t on the field for 25 of the first 30 minutes.

Everyone else is making good plays. Riley made a great pass down the field on the play he got injured (thank you, Guarnero, for letting him run right by you). Even Mansion made a couple great passes that were called back thanks to the line committing holding and illegal blocking penalties. KA21 (minus the fumble) and Marvin Jones make plays on a consistent basis. Our running backs are always solid when given a chance. Jeremy Ross continues to hurdle people at ease. Hell, even our full back and tight end play is getting better. The only facet of our team that’s actually regressing is the offensive line. While it may not make us contenders, I honestly think fixing the offensive line will make us a team that’s competitive with anyone in the Pac-10.

by mrjpark on Oct 31, 2010 1:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

Especially in a complex scheme that you’re still technically learning.

This is the problem I emphasize. Too much scheming, not enough technique and discipline by our defenders. We’re not guarding gaps right and we panic when things go wrong. Pendergast should be doing better planning our defense, especially after we’ve been getting blown out for the second time in three weeks.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 31, 2010 1:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I agree with the first part, but doesn’t anyone think that part of the problem has been the turnover with the coaches below Tedford? Shouldn’t we let these guys get a season under their belt? Well, I think Pendergast should, anyway. He’s been at the pro level for so long, I think it’s fair to give him an adjustment period and see if he can adapt to the college game. If there hadn’t been any signs of a potentially good defense, then I would be more sympathetic to the calls to get rid of him, but the problem has been inconsistency. Marshall, on the other hand, may need to go by the end of the season.

by atomsareenough on Oct 31, 2010 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that it’s too early to pull the plug on Pendergast (barring some truly massive epic fail over the last 4 games of the season).

When we debate the fate of assistant coaches, we also mustn’t forget that Tedford bears some responsibility for their performance. He hired them.

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by Ohio Bear on Oct 31, 2010 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

Avi, agree 100% about the OL

But I’m not sure about your judgement on the defense. If you are going to discount 2009 under Gregory as merely a fluke based on bad personnel, I’m not sure judging Pendergast by 8 games this season is entirely fair . (And frankly, I don’t miss Gregory at all — if we had offensive machines like we did in 2006, we wouldn’t be seeing this “famine” side of Pendergast’s defense.) I’ve seen tremendous development in our defense, with LBs like Mychal Kendricks stepping up and an even greater improvement in our DBs, with Chris Conte leading the way and Marc Anthony, Darian Hagan, and Steve Williams doing great jobs. I agree there are problems with biting on fakes and overpursuing, but I have to think this is easily correctable with sufficient post-game film review and discipline. Other deficiencies are more difficult to correct because they may result structurally form the aggressiveness, but at this point I’m satisfied enough by the potential of the upsides (we saw this in our “feast” games) to see how it plays out when we have another year of experience under Pendergast.

by BeareatsTacos on Oct 31, 2010 12:07 AM PDT reply actions  

Yup, Pendergast gets at least one full season and ideally 2-3 seasons before we can judge with any certainty.

by sec119 on Oct 31, 2010 12:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

I've seen tremendous development by these guys too

But the fact is this is what all Pendergast defenses have done. It’s an aggressive scheme that invites a lot of risk, and it’s clear that our defense being susceptible to misdirections and overpursuit will be happening as much as Gregory defenses giving up a 3rd and 7 passing down. In general, that’s far deadlier.

Our DBs do a pretty good job in pass coverage, but have you seen them in run support? Not as solid except for maybe Conte, because they take bad angles and aren’t as disciplined. We’ve gotten additional pressure this season, but most of it is against bad O-lines/bad QBs. When we face good O-lines/good QBs, BAM, hammered.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 31, 2010 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well let’s see if Pendergast can address the run support as well. I thought our corners were ok on run support prior to today’s game (or it might have just been the tackling coloring my memory, I was focusing on that more than the angles). Being undisciplined in gap control and approaching with a bad angle I think are not necessarily the result of a bad scheme, so perhaps with a little more experience and learning from mistakes (Marc Anthony and Steve Williams are still pretty green after all) they will improve.

That said, I agree there is a higher risk with the Pendergast scheme. In many ways though, a higher risk appetite can lead to valuable rewards like Les Miles’ Mad Hatter moments — some real head scratching heartbreakers, but at the same time some genuine Sportscenter/Youtube highlight clips that make you smile.

by BeareatsTacos on Oct 31, 2010 1:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

I mean, yeah, I would accept some aggression and some risks being taken. But it seemed like we began panicking and selling out on more and more plays as the score piled up. I wouldn’t mind it occasionally, but frequently? The team is asking to get rolled up.

That’s not fair to the defense, who are definitely better than the 35 points they gave up today or the 48 they gave up against USC or 52 they gave up against Nevada. Coaches have to put players in a position to win and they shouldn’t be getting them embarrassed like this.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 31, 2010 1:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly think it has more to do with the offense being impotent than the defense being THAT bad. Yes, they do take a bunch of the blame and need to be more disciplined. But when a defense whose strength is its blitzing and aggressive schemes gets put behind 21-0 in the first quarter, their mindset seems to change to making big plays rather than keeping the score down. And I don’t really blame them. Our offense ran the ball on first and second, and then threw an incompletion on a 3rd and 10+ like 8 times in a row. The defense is on the field the whole game and they probably lose faith in their offense’s ability score. When we played Arizona, while our offense may not have been good by any means, they scored enough points to get in position to win, making it so the defense didn’t have to win the game. While they ended up losing the game, holding Foles and Arizona’s prolific air attack to 10 points is quite a feat.

by mrjpark on Oct 31, 2010 1:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

This is an interesting thought. I guess it makes sense that the team is taking more risks to try and put points up quickly.

But they have to do it within the confines of playing good defense too. Otherwise it’s all for naught.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 31, 2010 2:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

In many ways though, a higher risk appetite can lead to valuable rewards like Les Miles’ Mad Hatter moments — some real head scratching heartbreakers, but at the same time some genuine Sportscenter/Youtube highlight clips that make you smile.

Well, yeah, but we’re trying to go to the Rose Bowl here.

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by AERose on Oct 31, 2010 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Not this season!

But yea, during the offseason I’d be happy to see dialing back some aggressiveness and seeking some sort of balance for next year.

by BeareatsTacos on Oct 31, 2010 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

You're both right.

I think we’ve seen our defense over pursue at times which has been really costly and explains our feast or famine. But I agree with BeareatsTacos. I’m thinking (hoping) that we can still be aggressive but not have to be at risk of giving up HUGE plays when we do so. I think there is a balance between playing aggressive enough such that offenses fear us and patient enough such that running backs don’t get 8 yards per carry or we leave an open man down field for an easy 30 yard TD.

I think it will come down to, yes, discipline. And if that’s the case, I think Pendergast deserves more time to teach his players.

by freshfunk on Oct 31, 2010 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Great analysis here. This program has lost the roots of success built on sound fundamentals and a desire to win by players who experienced the lows of the the previous regime. Where is the BURNING PASSION for success that JT had in his earlier years? Sure, the players and coaches are still putting in effort, but don’t tell that today everyone laid it all out there. Not even close.

Where the hell has the elegant offense of previous years gone? JT kept opposing DCs up at night with a playbook that used many formations to disguise the playcalls. Now we’re regularly seeing illegal formations, missed assignments, and general confusion despite an already reduced playbook.

We have recruits coming in with great measureables, much better than a decade ago or at any time really. Issues like inside zone and outside zone blocking schemes can be solved, but until the underlying sense of purpose is restored, this program will not be achieving very much.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 31, 2010 12:52 AM PDT reply actions  

“Where the hell has the elegant offense of previous years gone?”

He’s currently the starting QB for the Green Bay Packers.

by mrjpark on Oct 31, 2010 1:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Where is the BURNING PASSION for success that JT had in his earlier years?

Unless you’re around the program on a regular basis (and if you are, then I’ll retract this comment), that’s not really a fair argument to make.

by boomtho on Oct 31, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not a close confidant, and even if I were, this type of statement would still be an opinion. JT has never been a Joe Kapp personality, but from my observations and interactions, I think players are not buying into his philosophy the same way. Yes, JT still says the right things like our goal is to win the conference and not settle for the emerald bowl. But now our road games performances look more like the ‘get the game over and go home’ variety rather than ’we’ll take on anyone, anywhere and crush you’ type.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 31, 2010 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Where is the BURNING PASSION for success that JT had in his earlier years?

That question is really out of line. Make no doubt about it, Tedford wants to win just as much as us, and probably even more than we do. It’s his job to win. He makes more money when he wins. He sleeps in the stadium multiple nights a week to win. I don’t think anyone should be questioning Tedford’s passion for winning. He wants to win.

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by HydroTech on Oct 31, 2010 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think the problem is he doesnt beat his chest and stomp his feet on the sideline. When he isnt as demonstrably emotional on the sideline, people think he doesnt care.

I agree with you that you can care and you can care without being a Harbaugh out there. Id much rather have somebody who exudes confidance and calmness than some Les Miles out there.

I think I am in the minority there, but its how I feel.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 31, 2010 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think most people would like a combination of the two. Otherwise we could literally have a robot head coach. And I do mean that literally.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2010 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Questioning his completely uncompetitive results right now is very fair considering his $2.8 million salary last year. We can debate this, but I believe fans like us care a lot more about Cal than Tedford ever will without receiving a dime of compensation from the university.

He is due another retention bonus of $1.5 million on Jan 1, 2012 if he completes the 2011 season. That’s $3.3 million in salary. Will he take us to the Rose Bowl next year? A losing season is more likely.

His bonus for winning is miniscule in case you weren’t aware. $75k for a Pac-10 title. $150k for a national title. That’s chump change for him.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 31, 2010 8:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Questioning his uncompetitive results right now is fair.

But of everything I’ve gathered from Coach Tedford whether he was paid 40 bucks or 2.8 million or whatever, he’d want to win at the same level. Perhaps his “winning bonuses” are miniscule, I don’t know.

What I do know is that it is preposterous to state that the team is uncompetitive because “Coach Tedford doesn’t care enough.” Not only is that a vague statement, almost completely undefineable, but not supported by facts apparently in reality.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 31, 2010 9:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

If somebody does not know Tedford personally, they really should not be questioning his desire to win or how much he cares about Cal. I guess sleeping in his office 6 nights a week for 5 months, turning down NFL jobs and more lucrative coaching offers when he had one of the hottest names in coaching, staying at Cal through the tree sitter fiasco to make sure the SAHPC was built, and caring about how 100+ football players on and off the field are not indicators that he cares about his football program and in the bigger picture, cares about Cal.

Talking about his compensation to justify that Cal fans care more about the university than him is pretty weak argument in my books.

by Cali49a on Oct 31, 2010 9:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You go, girl!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 31, 2010 9:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

i have never questioned JT’s work ethic or role in establishing the momentum for upgrading our facilities. I know his confidants will defend him regardless of how bad the team performs because of his past successes and the belief that a turnaround will happen. That’s fine with me because loyalty is great trait but right now I have lost faith in his ability as a leader.
 
I mentioned passion because I believe that the psychological aspect of football (and any sport) is very important and it’s not a trivial matter to solve. Speculating about what you think is wrong is part of the fan experience. I honestly feel like it’s more than just an X’s and O’s issue, because we’ve seen far less talented Cal teams playing closer games than what we’ve seen the past 2 years.

And long after JT is gone, we will still be there supporting the team.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 31, 2010 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m far from being a confidant of his if that’s what you are implying about me defending him.

Where is the BURNING PASSION for success that JT had in his earlier years?

Speculating about what you think is wrong is part of the fan experience.

Do you watch him on the sidelines during games? Did you see him chew Riley’s ass out against ASU? Did you not read about Tedford cutting the bridge of his nose when he headbutted a player in the tunnel before the ASU game? Did you see him pissed at Marshall after a false start against OSU on tv? Did you not sense how he pissed off he was in his post game interviews after UA?

Is that not BURNING PASSION in your books? Either you are not watching games close enough, you’re making conclusions based on what you solely see the televisions showing of him, or you’re discarding evidence to make your argument.

And long after JT is gone, we will still be there supporting the team.

And he will not? And you’re basing that off of what? Because you’re a Cal Alum and Tedford is not?

by Cali49a on Oct 31, 2010 10:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, I’m glad JT went after Marshall and the refs when they deliberately stalled any chance we had. However, his actions did not translate into any improvement on the field.

And yes, once he takes another job, his loyalty will be to wherever he is. That’s to be expected of coaches.

JT has been the first to say that his recent results are unacceptable. If he can salvage anything from this season, I will be pleasantly surprised.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 31, 2010 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

his actions did not translate into any improvement on the field.

No one is doubting that. But doubting his results is different than doubting his passion and desire to win. If you only focused on his results or even said that you wanted a more fiery coach, I think people would mostly be agreeing or at least agreeing to disagree. However, when you doubt his desire, that’s where you’re getting the disagreement.

by jali on Nov 1, 2010 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

GODDAMMIT

That picture of Riley both depresses me and pisses me off. More of the latter.

This should be the message to fire Marshall NOW.

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by JrBear on Oct 31, 2010 1:56 AM PDT reply actions  

Oregon St’s oline coach seems like an interesting replacement:
http://www.osubeavers.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/cavanaugh_mike00.html

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by carp on Oct 31, 2010 8:09 AM PDT reply actions  

Sounds like? If we got Coach Cav to leave OSU I’d likely end up running through the streets naked and delirious. The Boise St. offensive line coach would also be acceptable.

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by AERose on Oct 31, 2010 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

what stops him from being the perfect coach is that he’s only done it at Oregon St at the auto-qualifying BCS level. However, I like that he has ties to Hawaii, the northeast, and Arizona.

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by carp on Nov 1, 2010 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions  

Seems? Dude this man is a fucking genius. He does what he does at OSU with walk ons. Imagine him with out recruits?

I’ll also take Boise’s (as AERose mentions), USC’s and Furd’s. In fact can you imagine the awesomeness of stealing a Furd coach (like we did with Monty)?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 31, 2010 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think OSU got at least one 4 star recruit on the oline (Michael Phillip) who was also strongly considering Cal. Like the rest of Oregon St, Cavanaugh does seem like he knows how to groom linemen.

In terms of replacement candidates for any position, I like the idea of Cal poaching assistants from a school like Oregon St; such a candidate is likely poachable and, while it not only weakens OSU, you get a high quality guy who can cut it in the Pac10.

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by carp on Nov 1, 2010 9:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if that’s Marvin P’s younger bro

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Nov 1, 2010 5:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed on Pro Coaches

I think its a manageable hypothesis that pro coaches don’t do well when adjusting to the college game. It isn’t just that they have to deal with student-athletes, but also they probably haven’t followed the college game for years. Would you be watching college football if your whole job rode upon what happened the very next day (Sunday)?

When I watch pro games, which is not very often, it’s like watching Australian-rules football or something. or Arena football. Or MMA.

The point is: I would love it if we started looking for new coaches from within the ranks of rising college coaches, not failing pro ones. We could pay them less. And they sometimes pay off big (see Tedford).

by slaphancock on Oct 31, 2010 8:17 AM PDT reply actions  

Pete Carroll

Only counterargument is that Pete Carroll was a pro coach before he came to U$C….

by calbears04 on Oct 31, 2010 8:44 AM PDT reply actions  

Not sure it's about pro vs. college coaches

And isn’t Harbaugh’s staff now dominated by NFL guys? I haven’t bothered to confirm, but that’s what I remember hearing.

Clearly, Tedford’s struggling to find the right coaching staff now, and I think he’s also still struggling with what his own role should be. One of his best assets, I think, is his willingness to learn from the past and adjust how he does things. But I think the last couple of years it’s also becoming his downfall, as his teams seem to have lost their way.

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by California Pete on Oct 31, 2010 8:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

I know they brought in the new DC from the pros. Not like their defense is that good though.

by boomtho on Oct 31, 2010 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pete Carroll is so unique as to be nearly useful as an example. He was such a successful recruiter, and his talent so unbelievably better than any team in the conference that just about any scheme would’ve worked. That’s the kind of talent that probably masks occasionally poor fundamentals

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by norcalnick on Oct 31, 2010 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pete Carroll was horrible at the NFL level. He took a Super Bowl New England Patriots team and drove them down to mediocrity in a matter of 3 years. He seems to be doing better with a young Seahawks team, but we have yet to see if they actually get anywhere with him.

by mrjpark on Oct 31, 2010 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t want to give up hope on Pendergast so quickly, and at the very least I want to see how the defense performs against a good team/good offense at home, since they really haven’t had that chance yet.

But I am concerned.

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by norcalnick on Oct 31, 2010 9:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Marshall's Recruiting

I don’t get this line of reasoning that Marshall has upgraded OL recruiting. Both this year and last, Marshall has missed far more than he has signed, and has missed on all the big names. This year, Marshall has landed a single recruit — a legacy from our backyard. We have two promising prospects left when we started with about fifteen — a three star JC player and another 3 star high school player, with the latter (Flavin) probably being more likely than not to sign elsewhere. This year’s haul could conceivably be worse than any OL haul in the Tedford era. Even just hearing Marshall in interviews, NOTHING about him strikes me as being an effective recruiter. The results support this. Marshall has quite possibly the worst closing statistics out of any staff member on the entire team, despite the fact that OL is probably the position where Cal’s academic selling point is likely to have the most appeal.

by cal06 on Oct 31, 2010 11:02 AM PDT reply actions  

Wouldn’t special teams players like kickers and punters have the most interest in a school’s academics? Why do you say OL are more likely to care about academics than the other positions?

It’s true that of all the positions groups, we are in the mix for fewer OL blue chips than any other. Why that is may be more a function of fewer top prospects this year and many programs desperate to upgrade their talent than Marshall’s recruiting prowess. Don’t be so quick to dismiss Flavin either.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 31, 2010 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

OK, maybe specialists would be more attracted to Cal academics. My original point still stands — offensive linemen, as a group, tend to have better grades, higher test scores, higher wonderlic scores and higher gpas than just about every other position (except for QB). I would very much dispute the notion that the jury is out on Marshall’s recruiting. Even if both Williams and Flavin sign, our haul will be well short of what this team needs. In the case of Rigsbee, our biggest competitor was Boise St., and with Flavin, it’s either UCLA or Illinois, probably. With all due respect to Boise State, it shouldn’t be a close call when it comes to a kid like Rigsbee. With Marshall, we’ve lost on a number of kids who Cal should be a very attractive option for: Brendon Austin, Andre Yuretagoyena, Marc Mustoe, Tyler Johnstone, Shane Johnson, Eric Kohler, Chris Ward, Micah Hatchie, Kodi Innes, Nick Rowland. That’s not even counting the longshots, like Holts, Jordan, Kouandjio, Westernman, etc. Even if you believe that it’s not Marshall’s fault that he has’t closed on a higher pecentage of guys (which I believe is absolutely on Marshall), you would have to agree that it’s Marshall’s fault that we haven’t offered more guys. We need numbers — our pipeline is extremely bleak, to the point that it could do serious damage to the long-term viability of our program. If Marshall can’t convince a high percentage of guys to come, he has to start courting more prospects.

by cal06 on Oct 31, 2010 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not to dispute the fact that Marshall has missed out on some quality OL, but coach M had a very subpar recruiting record. Even from the touted class of 2007 with 5 OL, only Schwartz has been a quality starter. Way too many of M’s recruits had injury problems or just plain fizzled out. Marshall has yet to play any of his recruits, so we don’t know how they’re developing.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 31, 2010 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

If I were Marshall though, I would be courting Westerman with Texas imploding. Not that every legacy wants to play where his dad played, but it’s a different situation with him than Garrett Gilbert who grew up in Texas.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 31, 2010 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed that Michalczik’s recruiting was not good enough, but the idea that Marshall has “upgraded” is simply wrong. Compare the 07-09 classes with the 2010-11 classes, and you will see that there has been no upgrade at all. It’s very possible that OL recruiting under Marshall is worse than it was under Michalczik.

If picking a new OL coach, I would feel ambivalent about bringing back Michalczik. One the one hand, I do believe he is one of the best teachers in the business. On the other hand, he has a long track record of subpar recruiting. It’s not horrible, but it is subpar, and if we want to be the type of program most here believe we can be, we need to upgrade in that department. The difference between Michalczik and Marshall is that at least Michalczik could teach. He got mileage out of guys like Aaron Merz and made guys like Marvin Phillips into all-league caliber players. Marshall took a bunch of seasoned, experienced, 4* recruits and turned them into the bad news bears.

by cal06 on Oct 31, 2010 4:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder if the O-line play in 2009 had something to do with the lack of recruiting interest. Outside of a few recruiters (Tosh, Neuheisal, Chow, etc) not many can make recruits ignore the previous season

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 31, 2010 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Marshall has a strong network in the MD/DC/VA area. He gave us a chance to recruit at a powerhouse school like DeMatha. Michael Coley (Cal), Lorenzo Waters (Rutgers), Shane Johnson (Pitt), and Arie Kouandjio (’Bama) all came out to visit last yr. Cyrus Kouandjio was the obvious target this yr but we missed.

Genyk brought in a strong network from the midwest. DeAnthony Arnett from Saginaw MI seems to have attitude like Tha1 and could perhaps inject some fire and pride on the sidelines in the future.

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by solarise on Oct 31, 2010 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

Has Arnett verballed?

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 31, 2010 8:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

No Arnett visited $C this wkd I think. Rumors are that he is announcing sometime in Nov.

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by solarise on Oct 31, 2010 10:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

From a Duck fan, fwiw

It broke my heart to see Riley’s career end like that. No player deserves that.

by HeyitsHoag on Oct 31, 2010 11:35 AM PDT reply actions  

Right now I’m hoping OSU is playing for the Rose Bowl when they go to Eugene, so you guys can complete the hat trick.

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by AERose on Oct 31, 2010 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well the ducks don’t exactly have a reputation for clean play. Remember 2007 when they went for Longshore’s leg in a rather vicious manner.

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by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 31, 2010 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oregon winning the conference is an inevitability. I just hope I get some schadenfreude out of it.

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by AERose on Oct 31, 2010 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Or how Oregon ruined Daryl Skaugstad back in the late 1970s…

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by Auricursine on Oct 31, 2010 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

Civil War is in Corvallis this year

but if Beavs are playing for the Rose Bowl in that game, I would be amazed. I’d be happy just to get 7 wins total this year.

by scotty256 on Oct 31, 2010 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure the issue is pro vs college

My issue is it seems like Tedford has been choosing old retread/journey men coaches. He needs to find young up and coming coaches who are eager to prove themselves.

by SDBear on Oct 31, 2010 12:06 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Eh, I don’t buy that. Simmons has been around the block a few dozen times and the consensus on him seems to be positive. Daft is a pretty young dude who objectively sucks at his job. I would love to develop more young coaching talent like Tosh and Kenwick Thompson.

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by AERose on Oct 31, 2010 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

(Also get back some of the young guys Tedford helped develop who have left for other schools, like Keisau and Wilcox, though Wilcox is probably gone for good by now.)

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Oct 31, 2010 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

this.

or established coaches with successful collegiate accomplishments.

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by carp on Nov 1, 2010 9:14 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe Tedford should think about going to a more hurry up offense on away games. At least if the offense is quick, then they won’t have time to worry about the crowd.

by U Guys R Good on Oct 31, 2010 2:43 PM PDT reply actions  

Woof. Sounds like more opportunity for the other O to score. Not that it isn’t worth a shot.

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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Oct 31, 2010 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I vote for the WildBear for the rest of the year as the base offense.

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by solarise on Oct 31, 2010 7:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is apropros of nothing, really, but I always thought, just in general, you need to have 2 losing seasons before firing a coach (unless you have a string of .500 seasons right on the cusp with no signs of improvement). The first losing season puts the coach on notice to fix things for the next season. The second losing season is the indication fo fire the coach.

Could we have a losing season this season? Certainly. With an inexperienced Mansion at the helm, it could happen. That would suck a lot. We could even lose out. I doubt thatd happen, but wouldnt be totally surprised if it did.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 31, 2010 7:38 PM PDT reply actions  

No sunshine pumping left in your system?

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by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 31, 2010 7:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am neither passing judgment on the merits of firing Coach Tedford at this time or passing judgments on the merits of firing Coach Tedford in the future.

Merely stating my standard of review (save for exceptional circumstances) on firing head coaches.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 31, 2010 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

And regarding whether we have a losing season this season, I’m just saying that it is possible with a backup QB at the helm.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 31, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

in regards to Coach M,

People keep talking about what a bad recruiter Coach M was…my response..Who gives a flying fack? The guy could coach up 1star recruits and make them beasts in the Pac10. Thats what I want. A guy that gets his guys to play as a unit and fricken execute.

Right now the only execution we have is on our QBs running for their lives.

by Minotstatebeav on Oct 31, 2010 10:43 PM PDT reply actions  

From what I’ve seen, I’m not sold on Marshall coaching up 5* recruits much less 1* ones

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 31, 2010 11:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Something from yesterday's game...

… was that the OSU announcer was a bit funny. He had funny comments all day long. The two that stick out are:

“Brock Mansion’s pass intended for… fill in the blank” – On the play where Mansion threw it long to a OSU defender
“Katz down at the 42 (?) and his shoe at the 38 (?)” – The play where the lost his shoe and ran forward. I don’t remember the actual numbers but close enough

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 31, 2010 11:02 PM PDT reply actions  

How does this post only have one rec. This makes some serious sense.

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