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State Of The Cal Football Program, Part IV: Position Coaches Evaluation

Shane Vereen probably doesn't think highly of Steve Marshall these days

Part I on Tedford & Riley, Part II on the big picture, Part III Andy Ludwig's playcalling.

Today, we look at position coaches.

Untouchable

Ron Gould (running backs), Tosh Lupoi (primary recruiter/defensive line): Best units on the team, most invaluable coaches on the staff. They ain't going nowhere unless they want to go somewhere.

Solid

Kenwick Thompson (linebackers), Al Simmons (secondary): After tough seasons last year, both of these units have shored up. Although these guys had some breakdowns in the Nevada/USC games, still don't seem to be in any danger, particularly with Thompson making his mark in Texas recruiting (Steve Williams two years ago, Adrian Lee last year, Nathan Broussard this year) and Simmons having developed Syd'Quan Thompson and Darian Hagan into NFL-capable corners.

Too early to tell

Clancy Pendergast (defensive coordinator), Jeff Genyk (special teams)

Pendergast's schemes seem to be feast-or-famine. The unit seems to be amazing when they're ahead but press too much when they fall behind. When Nevada and USC scored the first touchdown it seemed like the defenses became too panicky on the field, lost their discipline and gave up even more huge plays, exacerbating an already difficult situation.  On the other hand, the scheme seems to excite potential recruits, and could be a boon on that front.

Genyk's units look better, somewhat. Bryan Anger is alright (although he still shanks it). Giorgio Tavecchio has improved his range, although his three missed field goals against Arizona and UCLA hardly inspire confidence among the ranks. The kickoff coverage still gives up a lot of yards though. The new approach of using first-unit players (instead of the second-units, which generally practice particularly on special teams) is an interesting wrinkle, and it's hard to see whether it's a net cost or net benefit.

Too early to tell with these guys. But we have a body of work with our primary targets of ire. Let's take a look.

Star-divide

Andy Ludwig, quarterback coach (we focused on offensive coordinator responsibilities yesterday)

Avinash: Oh look, a two-parter on Ludwig! Goodie.

Riley's mechanics look better, but he still doesn't look that great. His decision-making ranges from good to downright awful. That interception he threw at the end of the half against USC has to rank among one of the five worst throws I've ever seen. Whatever the Tedford/Ludwig combo is teaching Riley is only offering incremental improvements. For all of the mechanical corrections, it's coming undone by the bad decisions.

Kodiak: This is where I'm more concerned.  When the student struggles, is it the teacher's fault, or does the student just not have what it takes?  Too soon to tell.  We'd have to seen how Ludwig works with another QB to see if he can develop young talent or not. 

Berkelium97:   I'm not sure how much is Riley and how much is Ludwig.  Riley's mechanics have improved tremendously over the past two years (which bodes well for Ludwig), but he's still a middling QB with habitual brain farts.  He forces passes too often and has difficulty getting the ball out before he is sacked.  His decision-making and mental game management have always been suspect.  We might have to wait until we see the other QBs play before we can evaluate Ludwig's QB coaching.

Avinash: Also, the fact that no one else can challenge Riley for the job makes me think Ludwig isn't working on the fundamentals with his backups. From my reliable 2 AM Top Dog friend (not to be confused with my inebriated 1 AM Top Dog friend), I heard that Beau Sweeney needed work on throwing a spiral this past week. Painful.

Berkelium97: Mansion can't beat a guy who doesn't know how to throw a football?  If Hinder, Bridgford, and Maynard don't do well in camp, it's going to be an ugly year next year.

CBKWit: Sweeney is what, a third year?  I guess they teach you snap count first year, hand-offs second year, third year you learn to throw the ball!

HydroTech: I think this is probably a little overblown.  Can Sweeney throw a spiral?  Of course.  We all saw him during the last two spring games.  His balls certainly weren't fluttering ducks.  What the coaches were probably doing was just trying to improve his mechanics to get some better balls out of him.  This really isn't anything different from what Riley has received even this year.  All players need tuneups along the way.  To think that once you're told the proper technique, and you can do it once, means that you're going to do it perfectly forever is a complete fallacy.  As since many of us were in the band and we had to learn proper marching technique and playing technique every year, we should know this.  I mean, if players never lost perfect technique over time, then Cal Band's bootcamp week at UC Davis would only be for freshman.

Steve Marshall, offensive line coach

Kodiak: I know that we had a few lean years of O-line recruiting and that was a reasonable explanation for our struggles last year.  But, that shouldn't be an excuse this year.  We've got 3-4* recruits at each position on the line and all of them have game experience.  Did we whiff on our talent evaluations?  Are the rumors about last year's emphasis on scheme over technique true?  I'm still not sure what to think of Marshall.  Against Az and ucla, we ran the ball well, but struggled with their fast edge rushers.  Against 'sc, we couldn't run nor pass-protect and looked completely over-matched.  All three of these teams have great DE's, and 'sc probably has the best Dline talent in the conference.  So although I'm disappointed in our struggles, I'm not completely surprised.  However, if we continue to struggle against teams with average D lines, I think it's fair to say that Marshall deserves some scrutiny.

Avinash: Not looking good for Steve. The way we're getting blasted off the line of scrimmage against quality competition is sooo bad. Yeah we've had offensive hiccups in the past, but under Marshall we've had a half-dozen games where the offensive line didn't play well, and another half-dozen where they were atrocious.

So we've been running zone blocking a lot this year (in case you don't know what that is, go here). Although the updated depth chart had , you can just look at our linemen and recognize these are no Ryan O'Callaghans or Alex Macks around. These are a small group of guys. You'd figure they'd play better.

But they're not doing their jobs well. They let defensive tackles slip behind the line of scrimmage almost immediately at the snap, or they open up inside gaps for linebackers to rush through to sack the quarterback, or they get pushed back in the pocket.

The recruiting is looking better, and we do seem to have more guys that are committed to this game. But unless this offensive line starts picking up their game the rest of the year, I don't see him returning when his contract expires this winter.

Berkelium97: You can make the argument that our O-line doesn't have that much talent and that is the reason why they offer abysmal pass protection and spotty run blocking.  At some point this has to begin to reflect on Marshall, particularly when players routinely make the same simple, easily fixable errors.  How many false start penalties can we give up this year?  I'm not talking about guys not hearing the snap count in Autzen or Husky Stadium.  They routinely false start at home or at relatively mild atmospheres like the Coliseum.  It seems like a simple discipline issue.  And how many pass-rushers will break through unabated?  Several times opponents twitch early and demonstrate who will blitz, yet the O-line often still doesn't pick him up at all or he'll get blocked for half a second before he sheds the block and annihilates Riley.  After the bowl last year I asked Tepper about how Marshall differs from Michalczik and Tepper said that Marshall focused a lot more on scheme, but that he planned to work on technique all throughout spring ball.  It doesn't look like that helped much.



Kevin Daft, wide reciever coach

Berkelium97: Drops. Drops. Drops.  I know you can't coach guys to have hands of glue all the time.  Sometimes guys simply drop balls.  But when most of our receivers from 2008 through the present persistently drop balls, I have to wonder about the coaching.

Kodiak:  I'm not seeing the WR's getting better at their craft under Daft's watch.  I know you're always going to have some recruiting misses, and some injury issues...But to see WR's who have been in the system for years still being inconsistent with their route-running, not knowing how to read defenses and find open spots in zones, not being on the same page w/ their QB, and showing inconsistent hands is troubling. (by my admittedly inexpert eye) We clearly can't count on getting all-world recruits like KA to sign every year.  If we don't develop the guys that we do have, it won't matter who we have at QB.

Avinash: I'm unimpressed. He wasn't given a great group to start off with (Verran Tucker, Nyan Boateng, and Jeremy Ross aren't the ideal trio), but now that he has a seasoned group in Marvin Jones, Jeremy Ross and Michael Calvin and a talented rookie in Keenan Allen, I'm expecting a lot more. Receivers drop the ball too much (Arizona and USC come to mind) or deflect it up into the air for other guys to pick off the ball (this cost us against Arizona and Nevada). And Jones and Allen are good receivers. They should be better with their timing.

I'm going to speculate a little. The fact that Daft was a former quarterback makes me wonder if he can really get on the same page with his group on gameday. He'll always be thinking like a quarterback and making the receivers try to understand what the quarterback wants as opposed to making them run crisp routes and how to slip past defenders.

It's true that his recruiting has been key to landing some of our guys (Kaelin Clay and Austin Hinder from this class), but recruiting is worthless if the receivers aren't putting their paws on the ball. I might be willing to give him another year when he's given a more speedy group of guys (when Clay, Coleman Edmond, Tevin Carter enter the mix), but that's about as far as I'll go. If the receiving game doesn't improve, Daft should probably be gone.

 

Poll
The position coach I've lost the most patience with is...
Andy Ludwig (QB coach/Offensive coordinator)
73 votes
Steve Marshall (O-line coach)
159 votes
Kevin Daft (WR coach)
22 votes
Someone else.
8 votes

262 votes | Poll has closed

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When we don’t pay for quality, we won’t get quality.

Employing Cal’s assistant coaches is the equivalent of employing a bunch of folks who never went to college and then ask them to do masters-level business, accounting, marketing, etc.

Don’t take my word for it. Look at those resumes.

Isn’t Cal the greatest university evair? Can we not hire quality people? What the fuck is going on in Shangri-La?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 20, 2010 6:45 AM PDT reply actions  

I think that due to budget reasons, Cal isn’t able to hire the the quality assistant coaches that it needs.

What Tedford should consider is to use some of his own money to help subsidize assistant coaches’ salary. If he were really concerned about the program, he should realize that there are people saying that he’s overpaid and that the program is stale. Bringing in better assistant coaches while helping the university pay for them, essentially lowering his salary to help the program, can probably help his image and the football team. Come on coach, do you really need the extra 500k, or cant you split that among your assistants?

And, I’m tired of hearing say that he will look at every aspect of the football program after the end of the season from coaches to coaching and spring comes and nothing has changed.

by hiltxan on Oct 20, 2010 9:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

Come spring this past year, Alamar and Gregory were no longer around. We might not have necessarily changed for the better, but I’m not seeing how there was no change at all.

by Missing Barry on Oct 20, 2010 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Alamar yes.

Gregory no – unless Tedford politely asked him to leave. I thought Gregory left on his own.

by hiltxan on Oct 20, 2010 9:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

Indeed…that he left after signing day is an indication to me that it was Gregory who left (as was reported) and not Tedford politely firing him.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 20, 2010 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

Re: Marshall

I’ve always been a firm believer (supported by years of observation and first hand-experience as both teacher and pupil) that technique beats talent any day.

Our OL guys may not be the biggest or most talented, but if they are coached well and play with strong and consistent technique, the advantage of the more talented players is eliminated.

Draw your own conclusions.

Hey, Ucla -
1. Get your own colors
2. Get your own fight song
3. GET A REAL BEAR!

by SoCal Oski on Oct 20, 2010 7:31 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Coach M Back?

I wonder if the Raiders blow out Cable at the end of the year if we could get Coach M back as the line-OC working more closely with Tedford? Not sure how that worked the 1 year he was the OC.

by MV Bear on Oct 20, 2010 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

The quality of O-line play with Coach M kept declining year after year. Already by 2006, we were having trouble with the power game.

Recruiting updates @CalEternal on Twitter.

by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 20, 2010 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions  

But with Marshall at the helm, we have trouble with the entire game.

"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach

by Berkelium97 on Oct 20, 2010 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed, Marshall has not been an upgrade, but O-line play declined once Coach M only had his recruits to work with.

Recruiting updates @CalEternal on Twitter.

by CaliforniaEternal on Oct 20, 2010 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Gould is a great coach and recruiter but he is in charge of the fullbacks.

by Cali49a on Oct 20, 2010 10:38 PM PDT reply actions  

Stevens has performed better as the season’s gone on.

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 20, 2010 11:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

In fact, I don’t think fullback play has ever been a true weakness of the squad (Holley wasn’t great, but he worked his ass off. Stevens seems like he could be something).

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 21, 2010 12:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

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