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State Of The Cal Football Program, Part III: Evaluating Andy Ludwig

Part I on Tedford & Riley, Part II on the big picture. Now onto positional coaches who are under the most heat after Saturday's performance.

We start with offensive coordinator Andy Ludwig. Things got a little heated, so this'll be its own post.

Avinash: I don't like his playcalling. Here's what I wrote after the game.

The lack of OC adjustments were bad

I don’t agree with running the ball up the middle at the DTs. Or trying to play smashmouth football and put up 8 vs. 8 in the box when we’ve never played well with that strategy. Or not adjusting to the new looks the defense sent at us. We were always reacting to what the defense was doing, not the other way around.

There were too many fundamental errors through the 2nd and 3rd quarter that make me think there’s some sort of disconnect going on between our coordinator and our players. Perhaps I’m wrong and it’s all execution, but I’d like to think it’s a mix of both rather than laying all the blame on players and position coaches.

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If the execution is poor, the OC should be working in closer concert with his position coaches. They should be scouting the opponent, know what the weaknesses and strengths of the other team are (and more importantly what our team should be doing), and be ready to adjust accordingly when the defense throws out something different (like Oregon 09 and USC 10). Otherwise we’re going to get blasted on offense. They should put players in a position to succeed based on their strengths and weaknesses rather than saying "Hey, go out, do everything."

If the offensive line is continuously getting blown up, then we should be working on getting the ball out earlier instead of running all these slow-developing plays that killed our drives. I saw a lot of inside runs when it was becoming clear we were getting NO leverage inside. Not enough slip screens to take advantage of pressure, etc.

There’ve been an appalling lack of adjustments in-game.

 

TwistNHook: I didn’t see a lot of problems with Ludwig. His play calling seemed fine enough. Mixing things up, which was solid. The execution of the play calls seemed disastrous. A lot of dropped passes. I mean just terrible execution. That falls less on the OC/HC and more on the specific position coaches.

I'm not entirely certain why everybody is dumping on Ludwig.  I didn't think the play calling was that bad.  I thought the execution was terrible.  Marvin Jones needs to slap himself in the face repeatedly. 

HydroTech: Execution was horrible.  But people don't like to blame individual players, unless that player is a QB.  Instead, they'll blame scheme. 

Avinash, you seem to be focused on this idea that "you need X scheme to beat Y scheme."  Some schemes do work better against others.  But in the end, it doesn't really matter what you do.  If you are just playing better than the other team, then you'll beat them regardless of the playcalling or scheme.  Execution is the single most determining factor in who will win a game.

Avinash: I understand that.  But wouldn't you agree we've been trying to execute a huge playbook with mediocre players and this causes even more execution issues? Shouldn't we be focusing on a smaller playbook that allows us to focus on technique rather than scheme so that they at least play hard enough to out-execute other opponents, based on the relative weakness of our offensive line and receivers?

I've seen this disconnect the past three/four years on offense. Tedford made the playbook too huge and our O-line played worse and worse. Cignetti simplified things down, but our offense lost too many players for them to be good at anything but running. Ludwig seems to be too much focused on scheme and there isn't enough good technique against good opponents (lots of plays, mediocre execution on all of them).

Simplify things a little: Is the offense too complex?

TwistNHook: I have never played football.  I have never seen a football playbook.  I have never seen this football playbook.  I feel like I lack the knowledge to pass judgment as to the relative merit of the size of this playbook.  Do you have a copy of the playbook that we could look at Avi and other more basic playbooks that you think would be more appropriate for this team?  that might help me make a more informed judgment regarding this.

HydroTech: I don't know how complex the Tedford offense is.  A lot of fans seem to think that the offense is too "complex."  If you asked the players, I don't think they'd say that the playbook is too complex.  I think the whole "is the playbook too complex?" question is mainly just people overthinking the obvious: just execute better! 

Sure maybe having a smaller playbook would be better because then we'd have less plays to learn and practice.  But like I said, I don't know how big the Cal playbook is, or in comparison to other teams. 

TwistNHook: I think when people look at playcalling, they look at what they believe is/should be the best, most optimal plays.  I always look at not whether plays are the best or whether they are the worst.  For example, I think the deep pitch play in the end zone was about as bad as you can get except for a 8 step drop long bomb.  But when people have concerns about running too much up the middle or something (which I didn't even really see too much running up the middle, per se), I just don't know.  Last week we ran up the middle a thousand times over and I thought the play calling was fine.  With proper execution, any reasonable play will succeed and succeed well.  With proper execution, any unerasonable play will not succeed.  And with improper execution, any unreasonable play will have disastrous consequences (such as the deep pitch in the end zone).

Avinash: Well we're definitely doing a lot more pre-snap. We shift players everywhere. We almost never did that in the old days. We run a lot more blocking schemes (zone, power, iso). We don't look very good at any of it. Perhaps I'm confusing this with more plays, but it does feel like we run a lot more types of plays.

I've heard that Tedford and Ludwig are very Xs and Os and don't seem to connect as much with the Cal offensive technique and focus on gameplans.  I'm not sure how much it's helping. It gives our players a lot more to think about. Perhaps it's me overthinking, but I felt like the offense was much simpler under Cortez, or even Dunbar. Perhaps I'm wrong.

TwistNHook: I barely remember Cortez as it was so many moons ago.  Dunbar was only here for 1 year and it was for the spread, which I don't fully undrstnd.  However, isn't the spread supposed to be a fairly complex offense?

Avinash: Well I look at in terms of exploiting weaknesses. Like USC's deficiency is their pass D. So go straight downfield. Run checkdown routes to take advantage of the zones. Use bubble screens to exploit the cornerbacks. Anything to stretch the defense out to open up the interior D-linemen. Put the defense off-balance to set up everything else.

UCLA's secondary is the strongest part of their unit, so it makes sense to run the ball a lot.  I don't like running up the middle to start the game when USC's DTs are the strongest part of their game.

TwistNHook: It is tough to figure out exactly how many downfield passes were attempted, because of all the sacks.  However, I do remember some downfield passes, two drops by Marvin Jones, one drop by Ladner, and an interception by a USC player. 

Berkelium97: I like some of his plays and am confused by others.  For example, I was not sure why we kept running up the middle against USC's NT who was eating our O-lineman alive.  The pre-snap shifting of tight ends and receivers on the line is...unusual.  I can understand moving guys into or out of the backfield to try to force mismatches on receivers, but whenever I see a tight end and receive both move up or down the line, it's usually a pretty clear indicator that we're running that direction.  Otherwise, he sometimes runs some great plays to take advantage of what the defense is showing.  Sometimes.

What happened to those short, over-the-middle throws to Miller and Lagemann?  Those were a great staple in our offense late last season and a great way to move the chains without relying on Vereen.

Kodiak: Prior to this game, I didn't have serious issues with his playcalling.  Let's face it:  inconsisent QB + porous O-line...and everyone except for ucla seems to know the recipe for how to stop our offense.  Sure, I'd like to see more quick-hitters in the run game and fewer of these slow-developing pass patterns.  But, I don't know enough about the game to say with any authority that he was calling bad games.  Seemed like there has been a decent mix of run and pass, and some creativity (reverses, half-back option passes, WR option passes, etc).  My issues have been with execution - not sure if this is a position coach issue, personnel issue, or a teaching issue.  Maybe we're trying to do too many different formations/plays instead of perfecting a smaller playbook. 

This last game seemed like we failed at game-planning, preparation, play-calling, and in-game adjustments.  I think some of the play-calls early and throughout the game (option to the near side-line in the red-zone...really?) were really questionable.  However, I think the early execution errors really made the play calls look worse than they seemed.  If Jones and Ladner catch those early balls, we're driving instead of being put in predictably bad down and distance situations.  I know...that's like saying "heeey, now that the barn burned down, we've got a great view of the stars."

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I think some fans think the offense is too complex because every year we see freshman or sophomores playing QB and doing it really really well. Maybe this isn’t a matter of complexity but of the QB’’s we’ve recruited. Maybe it is a coaching issue which you guys are pontificating on right now….either way, I’ve always wanted to know why a QB in this system seems to take years to master this offense whereas other teams excel with an underclassman. I’m not a great X’s and O’s guy like Avi, but I do notice that we can’t do what other teams do rather well….I know that this is not the norm per se but it still makes me wonder about it…

by Cal_Fan2 on Oct 19, 2010 4:04 PM PDT reply actions  

One thing that I’ve wondered about is how Tedford could get a guy like Boller – great arm, great athlete, but inaccurate and poor decision-maker, to be more than serviceable.

I remember that Tedford personally worked with him to change his throwing mechanics (more compact), played lots of read-the-defense games with checkers as defenders…And there were rumors that he simplified the playbook and the reads so that Boller only had to read half of the field.

Considering Riley’s struggles, why wouldn’t he do the same thing? Or, has he done the same thing and the other teams have caught on – they know that with certain plays or formations there are easy keys to shut the play down.

Wild*ss speculation here. I think I’ve posted some variant of this in umpteen places by now, but I’d be happier if Tedford were more directly involved with the QB-coaching and play-calling. He clearly had a gift for teaching the position and running a precise offense.

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by Kodiak on Oct 19, 2010 4:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

My guess is the 2007 fiasco with Longshore/Riley really made him reconsider his role with the QBs and the offense. He was so busy focused on that part of the team he didn’t see everything else falling apart around him. And he knew subsequent disasters like that would cost him his job. So he totally turned the offense over to other people.

Unfortunately, it’s looking like he’s no better managing the whole team. Perhaps he should have someone else watch over the rest of the team (Lupoi seems to be the most personable of the guys) so he can concentrate better on running the stuff we all know he’s good at. Or he needs to find an OC that can understand the way he thinks and call a gameplan that incorporates those ideas.

Mike Bellotti needed guys like Tedford and Kelly to keep Oregon’s offense humming. Tedford needs someone like that; he hasn’t meshed well with anyone since Cortez.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 19, 2010 5:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nailed it.

He had a lot of strong leaders amongst the players in his earlier years – that let him get away with letting them keep guys in line while he tinkered with the offense. When they graduated with no one to fill the leadership void, ’07 happened.

I think Cignetti and now Ludwig were his attempts to find an OC that understands him and his offensive preferences.

Unfortunately, I think that neither of those guys are as good as he was/is at being a QB coach and OC.

Like I said in one of the post-game threads: (too tired to paraphrase)

Change is good, but… I know Tedford stepped away from the offense to spend more time overseeing things like team chemistry, morale, competitiveness, etc. In fact, a large emphasis on doing things differently this year was because of the back to back faceplants against ‘sc and Oregon. The problem is that Tedford’s just not a rah-rah fun guy, nor a salty fiery guy, etc. One broken clipboard aside, he’s been John Wayne-calm throughout most of his early career. Maybe he delegated the wrong tasks and should go back to what he does best.

I’d be quite okay with Tosh being in charge of morale/chemistry and Tedford going back to working w/ the QB’s and being more involved w/ the offense.

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by Kodiak on Oct 19, 2010 5:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

Other than nice TD/INT stats his senior year, Boller really wasn’t very good. It could be our perception of Boller that’s the issue, here…

by Missing Barry on Oct 20, 2010 7:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re right, he wasn’t. In fact, he was absolutely awful his first three years…then turned into a reasonably competent (more than serviceable) player his senior year. Whether it was the coaching that made him better, the schemes which made him look better than he was, or the playcalling which was tailored to his strengths…he showed a huge improvement to the point where he was drafted in the 1st round.

That type of development clearly hasn’t happened with our QB’s since Tedford stepped away from the QB coach/OC duties.

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by Kodiak on Oct 20, 2010 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

He was unquestionably much better as a senior, and I have no doubt Tedford & Co. were largely responsible for that, my point was just that he still wasn’t a very good QB. Don’t let that magic act he pulled in getting himself drafted in the 1st round fool you – he only completed 53.4% of his passes for a 6.7 Y/A his senior year at Cal.

by Missing Barry on Oct 20, 2010 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

And there were rumors that he simplified the playbook and the reads so that Boller only had to read half of the field.

I’m not singling you out, Kodiak, but since I have seen this rumor fairly recently on CGB, I’m going to have to dispel it. Tedford simplfying the offense and only making Boller read half the field is a complete myth and as far as I know, was created by disgruntled Ravens fans. Take a look at this higlight from the 2002 Big Game and you will see Boller surveying the field from left to right before he spots Ward open in the endzone.

by Cali49a on Oct 20, 2010 10:44 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think some fans think the offense is too complex because every year we see freshman or sophomores playing QB and doing it really really well.

I can’t speak for others, but this definitely has been a huge source of frustration for me. Barkley, Luck, Thomas…all of them younger than Riley, and they just are in such better command of the offense than Riley is. Though, to be fair, they have more playmakers and a better line around them.

by boomtho on Oct 19, 2010 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Let’s also remember that Rodgers was pretty darn good by the end of his first season at Cal, and awesome in his second season. It might just be a talent thing, rather than a scheme thing.

by Missing Barry on Oct 20, 2010 7:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

How is Marv dropping passes he always had hands of glue……

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by 4Ever Golden on Oct 19, 2010 5:48 PM PDT reply actions  

this is what I don’t get. Dude’s got a serious case of the Yips.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 19, 2010 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah that was the most disappointing part of Saturday. Marvin was tough as nails. Those two drops killed the offense.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 19, 2010 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

Ripped it

I was really surprised too. The only thing I could think of was that Riley was ripping them and the passes were short. Most of the completions I’ve seen with Marv this year have been 10-20+ yard passes with a little more Riley-like lift. Those first passes in $C looked like Favre speed.

by freshfunk on Oct 20, 2010 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

O-Line play, talent level, coaching, etc.

I feel like so much of the offense depends on the play of the offensive line and it seems like we just don’t have the talent there to keep us competitive against teams like USC and Oregon. It’s almost as if we need a Tosh Lupoi for O-line recruiting.

Ever since Michalczik left, I haven’t felt comfortable with the O-Line. There are some games where they absolutely dominate (Big Game 2009, UCLA 2010), but for the most part, they seem to get dominated by opponents and are flailing at pass protection. (BTW, Michalczik has coached the Raiders to the 10th best rushing offense in the NFL and a somewhat middling performance on sacks allowed – 12 sacks through 6 games).

If we lose against ASU and OSU, maybe we should throw in some of the youngsters (Brazinski****, Siddoway***, heck maybe even some of the true freshman like Adcock***, Crosthwaite**** and Gibson***) and get them some good playing time so that they can develop.

Maybe this post wasn’t too far off from the truth.

by daveman on Oct 19, 2010 5:55 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m in this camp. Cal’s offense goes as the oline goes, and the oline has not been nearly good enough.

by Missing Barry on Oct 20, 2010 7:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

agreed.

Didn’t Ludwig and Marshall both come under auspices of failure? I seem to remember the fan bases of both previous teams saying something like: thank god you guys took ’em.

The O-line play has regressed for sure, though that might have to do with not having the right guys. Still, I’d be willing at this point to hire some young, cheap hotshot rather than go with proven failure.

Ludwig’s playcalling is predictable. That would be fine if it were also unstoppable. But it is eminently stoppable and totally predictable.

The worst thing, at least to the uneducated eye, is that it doesn’t seem to adjust to what the defense is doing. Run run pass, run run pass as our first two three and outs isn’t going to cut it. When he did switch it up later in the second quarter, passing it on first down, he went to play-action roll-out slow developing plays. That gave the defense a chance to reset when what it seemed like we needed were quick hitting slants.

by slaphancock on Oct 20, 2010 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

Play-action roll-outs are useful when your o-line can’t pass protect. So in that case, I think he was completely adjusting to the game.

by sec119 on Oct 20, 2010 5:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

As for adjusting the offense, if I recall we ran what, like twenty total plays in the first half? The downfield passes were dropped or intercepted, the swings went for no gain, and every run play just about was stuffed like a turkey, mostly because the DLine was owning the Oline and their LB’s attacked the run once the passing game was proven futile. While I thought Ludwig would have been good to return to the downfield passes, which were successful plays had they been caught, I believe we ran slip screens/bubble screens effectively, one for a long gain and TD. Am I wrong in remembering this? (I only watched it once.) Offensive playcalling was NOT the issue in this game. It was that our Oline and receivers must’ve been partying with Paris Hilton the night before.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 19, 2010 6:02 PM PDT reply actions  

I believe we ran slip screens/bubble screens effectively *in the second half.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 19, 2010 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we ran those plays great when the game was over. We ran a screen at least once in the first half and it got eaten alive.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 19, 2010 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

I agree that the playcalling was the least of the worries. I thought the plays called were they even remotely executed would have been productive.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 19, 2010 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

spread vs pro-style offense

My buddy tells me every year how we got away from running a pro-style offense in 2004 to a spread style offense afterwards, and how it just isn’t as effective.

Just a thought….

by calbears04 on Oct 19, 2010 7:57 PM PDT reply actions  

Cortez was the O-Coordinator that my buddy keeps referencing…

by calbears04 on Oct 19, 2010 8:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Sally should hire Jack Clark for Head Coach and Jeff Tedford for Offensive Coordinator. Then, grow lots of red roses.

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by carp on Oct 19, 2010 9:00 PM PDT reply actions  

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