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Golden Nuggets: Cal-USC Predictions

Cal's last two trips to the Coliseum have featured great defensive efforts limited by a middling offense.  Will this year be any different?

Ted Miller, our eternal optimist, predicts a Cal victory.

California 28, USC 24: The Trojans struggling defense is banged up, and the Bears have enough D to hold Matt Barkley and company in check. 

Phil Steele thinks the Bears will turn it around this year against the Trojans, as he predicts Cal over USC as his upset of the week.

Last week Cal held a UCLA run game that was avg 321 ypg rush (5.9) to just 26 yds (1.0) while USC fell victim to a game-winning FG on the last play for a 2nd consecutive week in the loss to Stanford even though they had the yardage (499-484) and TO (3-1) edge. While the Trojans have dominated the Golden Bears the L/2 years by a combined 47-6 score USC HC Kiffin may have a difficult time keeping his units focused as his "Us Against the World" mantra is harder to preach after an upset loss to UW and an emotionally draining loss to Stanford. Cal makes it 3 straight losses for the Trojans.

Four out of five writers for CBS predict a USC win.

Three of four writers for Rivals (and 83% of their readers) predict a USC victory.

After the jump Max Zhang and the Chinese national team brawl with the Brazillian team, USC's depth continues to be an issue on defense, Riley hopes to exploit a vulnerable USC secondary, and David Esquer raises money to keep baseball from being cut.

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Screw Colorado and Utah. They are the new guys with relatively marginal markets (compared to Seattle, Bay Area, and LA) and they’re basically getting off win-win. If I knew this was going to be the alignment I would just as soon have let them languish in the Big Twelve and MWC.

by dchu on Oct 14, 2010 7:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Why exactly does the North-Sputh allignment upset you? Assuming Cal and the Juniors will have their home and away with the LA schools, I see no real reason to get worked up over the divide:
1. Well still be in LA once a year for recruiting purposes.
2. Keep the CA historical rivalries intact by playing all three each year
3. Make more $$$ quicker as a concession with a restructured TV deal
4. Compete in a division with historically worse teams (Oregon, Wasu, and OSU v. UCLA, SC, and CO)
5. Still compete with the Juniors for the division title, which we wouldn’t do in the zipper plan
6. 6 of the original PAC 8 in one division.

by calbeers05753 on Oct 14, 2010 8:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

plus not having to be in a division with LA and the arizona schools. Winning in the state of Arizona is never easy for Cal.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 14, 2010 8:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

yeah, i think this is the best idea that can realistically happen. (4 CA + 2 AZ wont happen)
that said, for Cal, playing Oregon, Oregon State, Huskies, Furd, USC, and championship game vs. USC again, is really really tough road for Rose Bowl.

by JustBear on Oct 14, 2010 9:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

At this time. It’s tough now based on the way programs have developed these last 5-10 years. Who knows when one program will fall and another rise.

by calbeers05753 on Oct 14, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The alignment talked up by Haden does not include a provision for home-and-away to Socal for Cal/Furd. If those games were guaranteed I’d be fine.

However I do have some problems in principle with giving a sweetheart deal either way to Colorado and Utah, when those teams would already be put in a better situation (especially Utah). Granted that’s as much because the established Northwest schools want a pipeline to CA in the Norcal schools, but still…. new kids to the back of the line.

by dchu on Oct 15, 2010 4:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t think its that Colorado and Utah are getting a deal, its more that the other northwest schools won’t put up with taking those schools instead of two California schools.

by YleeXOtee on Oct 15, 2010 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

"I proposed a 5-2-2 model that has us playing the five schools (UCLA, AZ schools and Co/Ut) every year and then have the Northern California schools as part of our regular 2 and then rotate the other two. We need to play Stanford and Cal."

USC AD Pat Haden
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2010/10/14/pac-10-expansion-uscs-haden-on-the-division-alignment-with-details-of-the-ads-vote/

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 14, 2010 8:40 PM PDT reply actions  

If that happens for the CA schools, what about the other 8? Presumably the Oregon and Washington schools would like to play every year. Does the league force the az and the mountain schools into that deal also?

by calbeers05753 on Oct 14, 2010 8:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Presumably the Oregon and Washington schools would like to play every year.

Oregon vs. Washington would be a division game that will be played every year, no?

by JustBear on Oct 14, 2010 9:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

oh, did u mean OR and WA schools would want to play LA schools every year?

by JustBear on Oct 14, 2010 9:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yep. My point: if the CA schools get special treatment because of historical/geographical ties to LA, what do the Oregons and Washingtons get? Ted Miller seems to think the new socialist TV deal will placate them, but in that scenario Cal and Furd get a better deal: TV $$ and la, while the NW schools get $$ only

by calbeers05753 on Oct 14, 2010 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

But that’s similar to the situation before the Pac-10 started the round-robin. We played Stanfurd, UCLA, and USC every year. It’s almost a return to that.

Also, unlike the rest of the Pac, CA has 4 schools. It’d be weird, and probably confusing to the rest of the country if the CA schools didn’t play each other every year. In-state rivalry has to be a bigger tv draw than any USC/UCLA v. NW school when they’re not good. Say OSU reverts back to it’s pre-Riley form. No amount of LA exposure is going to get folks to watch the game.

by j.lee on Oct 14, 2010 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Pacific Northwest schools are cutting their nose to spite their face

…if they think that they’re getting a better deal with the Bay Area schools in the North and limited exposure to the LA schools.

If the North-South split with Cal & Stanford in the North is adopted AND guaranteed annual games between the NorCal and SoCal schools, then the Oregon and Washington schools will see the following schedule:

5 games against Division opponents
1 game against either UCLA or USC annually (visits to LA biennially)
3 games against the Desert & Rockies schools -
Arizona,
ASU,
Colorado, and
Utah
(meaning they miss 1 of the Desert & Rockies schools annually)

In fact, the reverse is also true for Arizona, ASU, Colorado and Utah:

5 games against Division opponents
1 game against either Cal or Stanford annually (visits to the Bay Area biennially)
3 games against the Pacific Northwest schools -
Oregon,
OSU,
Washington, and
WSU
(meaning they miss 1 of the Pacific Northwest schools annually)

I really don’t know why the Pacific Northwest and the Desert & Rockies schools think that this is a superior model. Heck, I don’t know why Larry Scott thinks this is a superior model.

by FiatSlug on Oct 14, 2010 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe the Norcal trip is a good enough substitute for the LA trip?

by boomtho on Oct 15, 2010 12:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

They get the CA schools not being in 1 division. If the CA teams don’t get at least guaranteed games against each other, they have gotten nothing they wanted out of the division alignment. I’m all for doing what’s best for the conference, but at the same time, the Northwest shouldn’t dictate everything about alignment.

by jali on Oct 15, 2010 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

My mistake

That was supposed to read Robert Woods.

"Some people watch adult videos on their computer - I go to YouTube and watch Jahvid Best highlight clips. That’s what gets me going."- Jim Schwartz, Detroit Lions head coach

by Berkelium97 on Oct 14, 2010 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

I predict...

that we beat USC on a last second field goal. wouldn’t that be hilarious?

by planetxerox on Oct 14, 2010 9:05 PM PDT reply actions  

And on that field goal, it hits the uprights but goes IN?!

Drinking the Kool-Aid. Pumping the sunshine. Livin' the dream. Go Bears!

by dballisloose on Oct 15, 2010 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

What if we miss the field goal?

by atomsareenough on Oct 15, 2010 11:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

not nearly as hilarious…

"Remember the Maine! TO HELL WITH STANFORD!"

by CruzinBears on Oct 15, 2010 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ll probably set something on fire inside the Coliseum.

by j.lee on Oct 15, 2010 11:35 PM PDT up reply actions  

1. Conference Split
2. TV deal
3. ?
4. PROFIT!

by RicEllis85 on Oct 15, 2010 12:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Anyone know a stream I can watch this game on? I can’t seem to find PRD.

by mrjpark on Oct 16, 2010 12:31 PM PDT reply actions  

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