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DBD 1.19.10 The Next Cal Generation


While cleaning out what used to be our guest room, to make ready for a brand new member of the family, Ragnarok and I realized that there still was a lot of Cal stuff in the room. Now, we could use these pieces of Cal paraphernalia (including Cal Band poster, bear in a Cal sweater, Cal banner, Cal Band blanket, and a framed Daily Cal from when we won Big Game in 2002) to slowly guilt our poor offspring into thinking he (or she) can't please us unless they attend and love UC Berkeley. Frankly, I'm a little uneasy putting that kind of pressure on a fetus. So, I do what I always do when I have questions about life and the world -- ask the CGB regulars.

Star-divide

Here is some of the parenting advice I've gathered:
You gotta be KIDDING me. Where’s the freaking incentive for me to get a good education to provide a stable learning environment for MY kids?! If anything I should make life SHITTIER for them so they’ll be able to pull this B.S excuse on college app essays.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Jan 15, 2010 8:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

 

I took my nephew to his first Cal game when he was 10. He thought the band was the greatest thing ever. When the band came charging out of the tunnel he gave me a big hug and said, "Thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing me here!" All I can say is, Cal Band Great.

by CalBear81 on Jan 12, 2010 11:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

 

To be fair, I would totally admit someone [to UC Berkeley] simply on the basis of their name actually being Whitey McWhiteWhite.

by BearStage on Jan 14, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

 

Chuck E Cheese sells beer. Just treat it like a bar and you’re good.

by Missing Barry on Jan 15, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

 

The only time I bought a megapack of condoms was in Target, when there was a kid screaming on the floor of the aisle. I looked at the kid, thought "Aw HELL no" and bought the biggest pack I could.

by sec119 on Dec 8, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   4 recs

 

I know a lot of my friends' parents use Jewish guilt as a parenting trick with them (take notes carp, Ragnarok, and zoonews).  As a way to control their kids.  "Oh, you want such that you go to a bad college 13 years from now?  Why would you do that to me?" 

by TwistNHook on Dec 15, 2009 7:27 AM PST

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So go ahead and tell us how we should indoctrinate our new Cal fan. We are now accepting advice and bear-shaped onesies. And to finish it off -- a conversation from our house:

Ragnarok: I think I'll read this book [A Short History of Nearly Everything] to our baby.

AndBears: Sure, it won't understand it, but it'll help to learn language, tonality, sentence structure. It should learn English faster.

Ragnarok: What if we have Telemundo on for 4 hours a day?

AndBears:... <pause>... Why is our child a science experiment?

Poll
What is our child?
a science experiment
22 votes
the way to fulfill all our hopes and dreams
3 votes
a future drinking buddy
7 votes
spawned by Tosh Lupoi
8 votes
DOOOOOOOOOMMMMEEED!
15 votes

55 votes | Poll has closed

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Q--BearStage

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Rishi definitely Ferengi.

I barely know what this means, yet I found it hilarious.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 6:32 AM PST up reply actions  

outstanding

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 6:42 AM PST up reply actions  

A couple of comments/questions on this...

Does Twist say things like “Numbah 1, I order you to take a numbah 2” to rags? Actually, scratch that, I bet he does.
AndBears, those are some huge…assets you got there.
Does this mean AndBears is destined to ditch rags for CBK?
How does Berklium feel about being compared to an angry butch lesbian security officer?

I could go on and on.

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 6:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Does this mean AndBears is destined to ditch rags for CBK?

Yes, but she and Rags will be reunited in a really shitty movie.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 11:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Which one do you get to play?

Snobby Chick - Senior Division

by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

I decided I was Q. I posted it above, and no one complained so I guess I’m In!

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Q is going to be in “Rags and AndBears: A Love Story,” a Lifetime Original Movie? Should be interesting.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:08 PM PST up reply actions  

ohhhhhhh i see what you meant

No, I was referring to Star Trek: Nemesis, the shitty, shitty Star Trek movie in which Riker and Troi finally tie the knot.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

ohhhhhh now i see what you meant

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought Troi and her mountainous assets got hitched with Worf? Or was that a crappy dream sequence and I don’t remember anything since I haven’t watched TNG in 16 years?

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe that was in an alternate universe.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

They never actually got married. They had a relationship, but it ended at some point before Worf transferred to DS9.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:59 PM PST up reply actions  

He transferred to DS9???? What is the Star Trek world coming to?

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

only after TNG was off the air ;-)

He was a popular character, and it allowed them to have a Klingon presence on DS9, which really worked because DS9 was truly a melting pot of alien cultures.

Just a great show from top to bottom, really built up the Star Trek universe and delved deeper into character development than any other Trek series.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree, a great show, but not really Sci-Fi.

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by Cugel on Jan 19, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

How is it not sci-fi?

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 2:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Because its space opera (very good space opera) in the same way Buck Rodgers is or Star Wars for that matter. SciFi is fiction about the impact of science & technology on human society, and TOS & TNG had lots of true SciFi episodes, and some not some much.

DS9 could be viewed as a western, in fact the creators of the show thought of it that way

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by Cugel on Jan 19, 2010 4:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh please, don’t go purist on me. If you start quoting Asimov…

I feel your opinion of Sci-fi is too narrow. I think it’s broad enough to cover all these titles. But hey, agree to disagree.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it was Sci-Fi (or Syfy shudder) but it had a lot of influences from daytime drama.

Supernarratives? Multi-episode story arcs? Good guys becoming bad guys becoming good guys? Demon possessions? That just reeks of soap operas.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 2:54 PM PST up reply actions  

all tv are soap operas, it’s all context.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

pretty much. Star Wars is considered sci-fi, and that’s way soap opera.

(I will admit, the Gul Dukat/Pah-Wraith stuff got tired pretty quick. He was better as just a sadistic badass and arch-enemy.)

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Personally, I preferred the complex plot and character development of DS9 to the planet-of-the-week approach of TNG — not that I didn’t like TNG.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

DON’T MAKE ME THE BALD ONE, MOTHERFUCKER

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 7:51 AM PST up reply actions  

Sorry, sorry, bit of an over-reaction there, but, well, yknow.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 7:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Who is Beverly? O’Brien?

Is Royrules Barkley?

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Jan 19, 2010 10:19 AM PST up reply actions  

How am I Barkley?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 10:25 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re incredibly socially awkward?

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:05 PM PST up reply actions  

To hell with TNG. I want to be Major Kira. She’s a terrorist, and I want the terrorists to win.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 10:29 AM PST up reply actions  

You could be Ro Laren! She’s a kick-ass Bajoran who’s a former terrorist and a current terrorist!

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Good call!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

She reminds me of Admiral Cain too much.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I cant believe she massacred all those civilians!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

…who’s Admiral Cain?

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

The character on Battlestar played by the same actress who played Ro.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Please hand in your Geek card at your earliest convenience.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Please. My Geek Card is irrevocable, bitch.

I refuse to apologize for never watching BG or B5. My heart firmly and forever belongs to Star Trek, and neither Babylon 5 not Battlestar Galactica (the new one, anyway) could hold a candle in my eyes. I gave them a shot when they first started… but there was just no spark.

Star Wars is totally different though. Nothing but love, love, love for Star Wars.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 2:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Eps 1-3, amirite?

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 2:21 PM PST up reply actions  

ummm NO lol

The best thing to come out of Eps 1-3 was Darth Maul. Most badass Jedi ever. Sooooo awesome.

To be fair, Episode 1 did a good job of establishing more about the Star Wars universe – about how Jedi were really exceptional warriors(in ways that we never saw in Eps 4-6) and how they were a big part of the world around. Even the ways lightsabers were used in that movie were awesome – When Qui-Gonn stabbed that blast door with his lightsaber, I jumped out of my seat and squeeee’d like a little girl. We’d only ever seen lightsabers used as slashing weapons, so it was amazing to see their true versatility. Also, seeing Obi-Wan as a young man was pretty great, and Ewan Macgregor was the perfect choice. Other than that, Ep 1 was craptacular, but sadly is probably the most watchable of the 3. Ep 2 was obviously garbage, and Ep 3 was just unadulterated filth.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I loved Babylon 5. Even when Bruce Boxleitner joined. Vorlons rule!

Costs assessed against Twist

by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Dude! I loved Voltron! The episodes are online too!

Oh wait, Vorlon? nm forget it.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 2:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Who’s Guinen? Calbear81?

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

No! That would mean I’d have some sort of weird “special” relationship with Twist. Too creepy.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:40 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

I think you’re looking at the wrong side. Clearly every member of CGB is a part of the inanity collective, assimilating others into our vortex of immaturity.

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS

by norcalnick on Jan 19, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

And inanity

Don’t forget the inanity. It’s my favorite part.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that me playing the world’s greatest laser tag game?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:26 PM PST up reply actions  

If turning children into daily science experiments is wrong, I don't want to be right

Step 1: Turn your child’s room into this (but with Cal gear instead)


Step 2: Lull it to sleep with Cal band songs on a daily basis
Step 3: ???
Step 4: “Congratulations! Your application for admission to the University of California, Berkeley has been accepted!”

Whose domicile? OUR DOMICILE!

by Berkelium97 on Jan 19, 2010 12:17 AM PST reply actions  

FLAGGED for not listing “Profit!!” in your steps.

Not just for meme-ification’s sake, but for not properly exploiting the unborn!
If you’re going to recklessly experiment on a human child, it’s just un-American not to do it for nefarious financial gain.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Flagged for not listing “Prophet” in your steps, which is to say that Mike Mohamed comes over every day for 15 years and you convince your kid he’s the new messiah and he’s leading your kid out of the desert into 40 years of CAL AWESOMENESS!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Have a bunch of old Cal t-shirts? Don’t want to throw them out, but need to clean up your closet?

Make them into a t-shirt quilt

yes, I am considering doing this with my Cal t-shirts. I’ve already lost 3 to my mom using them for various nefarious uses (Alamo Bowl Champion, NIT Champion and I believe and this made me cry, my Dick Vitale Hamon Hysteria t-shirt)

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 12:46 AM PST reply actions  

that is actually brilliant.

Ragnarok: Great Man or Greatest Man?

by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 8:37 AM PST up reply actions  

And when you have too many quilts, you can combine them into one ginormous SuperQuilt.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

and it will circle the world and give it a hug.

Also it will probably kill all the plants and cause a massive famine and drought.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know, to me it is begging to become a giant snuggie.

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 9:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Odd. I was just mapping this out with my mom this past weekend.

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Jan 19, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

A friend of mine (yes! I do have them,) had a very eager mom and he convinced her to make one of these for him. I never really though about how many shirts we acquire in Band until I saw the finished product. It turned out pretty well; I was a little jealous actually.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 10:10 AM PST up reply actions  

The answer, naturally, is to have another kid, so one can be the control.

Quantity AND quantity!

by Spazzy Mcgee on Jan 19, 2010 1:02 AM PST reply actions  

I was thinking the same thing. To all those humanities majors who voted for science experiment — she’s NOT having twins! There’s no control! It’s madness!

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 6:33 AM PST up reply actions  

There’s no control! It’s madness!

No, it’s Watercube.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 6:34 AM PST up reply actions  

Damn. I fucked up big time.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Being the second child is awesome. So much more freedom than the first child had, and the parents actually know what they’re doing now, so way fewer mistakes.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

But its sucks once the older sibling starts resenting you.

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That never happened. My sister and I almost never fought, and on the rare occasion we did, it was all good the next day. She was very excited to have a little brother, and was always very protective of me. Somewhat disturbingly, she still is.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Yea. I never seriously fight with my brother. I guess him being 7 years younger than me makes it a little different

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah I like being the older sibling. My parents now know what to do so they’re a lot more careful with my brother :p

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by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I hated being the older sibling

I would have to beg and plead to be allowed to do things like go out with friends or drive a car and my brothers got to do it hassle free and sooner than I did. That was not fun.

That’s me selfish to the max!

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh. Totally different experiences it seems like

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 12:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Btw A Short History of Nearly Everything was an awesome book and Bryson is my favorite author. When you get to the part about the meteorite that killed off the dinos he’ll mention a guy named Walter Alvarez. I was lucky enough to take a seminar from Prof. Alvarez my freshman year and the dude is as awesome as his theory.

But by far Bryson’s best book is A Walk In The Woods, where he, returning from England after living there for some 20 years, decides to hike the Appalachian trail to reconnect with America. Hilarity ensues.

Quantity AND quantity!

by Spazzy Mcgee on Jan 19, 2010 1:04 AM PST reply actions  

I liked his two books about the English language (Mother Tongue and Made in America) the best.

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 3:54 AM PST up reply actions  

A Walk in the Woods = awesome. I had a post-grad school goal of hiking the Appy trail, but my hiking partner bailed on me. Apparently the military doesn’t look kindly on going awol or something.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 6:36 AM PST up reply actions  

:)

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I took several classes with Prof Alvarez right when

all the meteor dino crap was hitting the fan (mid 80’s)….he’s a nut, but that doesn’t mean he wasn’t right.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 9:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m a Stranger Here Myself is fantastic

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Jan 19, 2010 10:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh sweet, I just bought A Walk in the Woods, more having to do with my recent transplant to the East Coast than anything. Now I guess I should read it. I also enjoyed I’m A Stranger Here Myself, which were essays he had written after returning from England. Hilarious, and wonderful writing.

by trisweb on Jan 20, 2010 6:58 AM PST up reply actions  

The 2010 Golden Globes

I never thought any of the following three would win any sort of major award:

Mo’Nique (Best female supporting actress)
Sandra Bullock (Best actress)
The Hangover (Best Comedy)

http://www.moviefone.com/golden-globes/nominee-winner

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 1:37 AM PST reply actions  

I thought Sandra Bullock was surprisingly good in that movie. A lot better than I expected.

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 6:41 AM PST up reply actions  

So Golden Globes are like Pac 10 power rankings now?

7

by Rishi on Jan 19, 2010 6:52 AM PST up reply actions  

You know what I find amazing. The same guy that talked out of his ass in Ace Ventura and had ridiculous and unfunny characters on In Living Colour, won consecutive Golden Globes. One of which was a very good performance.

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Fire Marshall Bill wasn’t great, but his turns as Vanilla Ice and Captain Kirk (on Star Trek II: the Wrath of Farrakahn) were genius.

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 8:33 AM PST up reply actions  

he was always solid on in living colour.

like most sketch shows….some bits are better than others.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 9:07 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude’s a really good, really underrated actor.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought he was great in “Man on the Moon” IIRC

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by Cugel on Jan 19, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep!

He was also great in Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. He was really good in The Majestic as well, an underrated role for him.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Sunshine was great, but he was a bit outclassed by Kate Winslet in that movie, she was awesome; I kinda fell in love with her character watching that movie.

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by Cugel on Jan 19, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

wasn’t that the point?

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 1:47 PM PST up reply actions  

He was still great – she was just greater :)

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Fair enough, I did think he was good too, but she was just luminous.

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by Cugel on Jan 19, 2010 2:07 PM PST up reply actions  

True, but you said you fell in love with her character, which I was saying was kind of the point of the movie. That was an excellent job of writing, casting, and acting. Joel really isn’t the character you fall in love with, while Clementine was written to be.

Is that not what you meant?

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 2:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes…. sort of, that was mixed with an admiration for Kate’s ability to bring this character to fully realized life as well. But you’re right in saying that an affection for her character is essential for the movie to work, and create the bittersweet feeling at the end.

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by Cugel on Jan 19, 2010 2:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 2:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you see when the hangover won that other chick flipped out and tore up her acceptance speech, bc she toads thought she was gonna win. I cant embed video here, but this is a link to the NYTimes page that has the video.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 7:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Hilarious! I would have much rather seen a Kanye West style episode.

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 8:25 AM PST up reply actions  

was it meant to be funny?

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Doubtful, because she made a big face and it just captured one second of it. It wasnt like she looke dinto the camera and made a fakey funny face and then tore it up.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. Nora Ephron should have punched Ed Helms in the face!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

And then meltdown as cast members and writers attempt to drag her out as she is taunted mercilessly by Hangover fans…

by ArbyOSU on Jan 19, 2010 4:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey, angering Iron Mike Tyson and his friends is never the smartest idea!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm the wrong one to ask for advice here

As far as indoctrinating children into Cal fandom, I have been an epic fail. Yes, there are items of Cal clothing in my children’s wardrobe: a bib, a sweatshirt, some sweatpants, a onesie, and even an 18M size Cal jersey with pants. And we also have an Oski stuffed animal. Problem is, their mother is an Ohio State Buckeye. And her whole family are Ohio State Buckeyes. So, the children are surrounded by scarlet and gray. Mom breaks out the Ohio State garb for them on big game days (e.g., Michigan game, Rose Bowl), but I have not pushed for same with the Cal stuff. The Cal stuff just doesn’t get worn enough and, come to think of it, my son has outgrown all of the Cal clothing he has. And I have yet to take my kids to a Cal game.

The kids do know how to say “Go Bears!” and “Touchdown Bears!” At appropriate times, too (mostly). But they are still far from indoctrination.

So my advice? Don’t be like me!

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 5:39 AM PST reply actions  

In Ohio Bear’s defense, Ohio Stateism around here is like a cancer: pervasive, nearly impossible to defeat, and deadly. The only treatment is more Cal clothing!

It is a shame, tho, that it is the child that suffers when the Cal grad marries poorly.

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 5:50 AM PST up reply actions  

Have you considered an interview for Ohio Bear?

“OhioBear, your friends havegathered to help you. You have a problem. You married………………a buckeye!”

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 7:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Are you sure that’s an interview? Are you sure it isn’t NOTHING?

Or an intervention, whatevs.

by Yes We Cannon on Jan 19, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Dde, it was 7:58 AM in the morning. Cut me some slack, jack!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Make your child a Bobcat fan! Since the child’s fandom will be usurped anyway, make it simple by keeping it local.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Ohio State

I have a friend that’s a fan of the Buckeyes because his dad was born and raised there. I don’t know if he really counts, though. He doesn’t know a single other team in the Big Ten.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 19, 2010 6:38 AM PST up reply actions  

He doesn’t know a single other team in the Big Ten world.

Sounds like most of the Ohio State fans around here.

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 6:47 AM PST up reply actions  

No, you arent doing the hard sell. Thats fine. You dont want to be a used car salesman here. WHen your children get tired of having to wear all those sweater vests ALL THE FUCKING TIME I MEAN C’MON, they’ll turn to you for some sanity.

And that’s when you show them your Tedford shrine!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 7:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I have said shrine. It’s in my office.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 8:07 AM PST up reply actions  

and when you bust out the sequined cal hat

and put on a band CD and start teaching them the words to Cal Songs….

you will save them, but salvation takes time. Be Strong, and Go Bears.

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by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Also, since Michigan’s colors are so similar to ours, I can see why it might be somewhat more difficult to deck your children out in maize and blue blue and gold in Buckeye territory.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

When wearing Cal clothing around town, I often get really nasty initial looks, but as they get closer they realize it isn’t UM stuff. They probably think I’m a West Virginia fan, as they have no idea who Cal is.

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

If I had a nickle for everytime I get asked if I went to Cal state when wearing Cal gear. I swear! I would have a lot of nickles and also be making money in a very unsusual way.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

You commented at 2:53 EST?

Aren’t you on some hugely important conference call with a judge and tons of assholes lawyers right now?

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:15 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Um… no comment. [bills another .25 hour]

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Don’t forget to ask him to assess costs.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

“Hey judge, that’s a nice title, but I’m a Chief Ultra Justice. Self appointed, no less. Now that’s impressive.”

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

:)

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--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

OH SNAP! FUCKING A I LOVE ALL OF YOU GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Buy your kid a stuffed oski bear and tell him/her that that’s what all teddy bears look like. Never buy him/her a real teddy bear.

From a young age, they’ll have an affinity towards oski and, by extension, like Cal without over doctrinization.

Win all around!

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by Rishi on Jan 19, 2010 6:52 AM PST reply actions  

Fool! Introducing Oski to more kids isn’t going to help his “I’m Not A Pedophile” reputation at all!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 7:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I plan to have a video loop of “The Play” “The Kidd from Cal” “The Miracle at Memorial” “Cal-USC 2003” Leon Powe’s 40 point game, Richard Midgley’s game winning shot, the NIT Championship (Geno!), DJax punt returns, various danzig mixtapes and the Cal Band videos running constantly in the nursery.

My kid will either be Blue and Gold to the core. . . or want to rebel so badly he/she will only apply to Stanfurd and USC.

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 7:12 AM PST reply actions  

Am I the only one who views the 1999 NIT champions as one of the most underachieving teams of the Braun era?

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 8:16 AM PST up reply actions  

We have a BANNER hanging proudly in Haas about that National Championship. What more could we have achieved???

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 8:21 AM PST up reply actions  

It was pre-internet game broadcast so I never actually saw that team play.

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 8:27 AM PST up reply actions  

That team had some really nice wins against top 10 teams (UNC, Ucla, and Arizona). But we managed to start 3-7 in conference play that year. In nonconference play, we Because of our strong wins, and despite our inconsistency, we still had a chance to make the NCAA tournament if we won our last 4 games. Amazingly, we won 3 of them (swept the Arizonas, if memory serves, then beat OSU on the road) before losing at Oregon in the finale. There was no Pac-10 tournament back then to try and make one more run.

When Michael Gill (?) lit it up in the NIT, I wondered where THAT had been all season.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

Oops, needed an Edit button there…

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 8:52 AM PST up reply actions  

How about making the NCAA tournament like they were supposed to?!?

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 8:29 AM PST up reply actions  

Exact quote from a friend’s conversation about that last possession – I believe this happened in New York City at the game:

Cal friend #1: You know Geno is going to have to win this game for us, don’t you?
Cal friend #2:makes choking noise, begins coughing

Also, this was one of those Cal teams with the horrible script Cal jerseys. I don’t know I love the script Cal on the football helmets, but I love the full California spell out on the basketball uniforms.

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 8:35 AM PST up reply actions  

That 1998-99 season uniform was an abomination

If they wanted to go with the Cal script, I might have gotten on board with that. But they didn’t. They went with a nonauthentic script Cal. It looked cheap and stupid.

It was some sort of Nike Jordan line fashion trend that season where instead of spelling out the teams, the logo was on the front. Michigan had the “M” on its jersey and North Carolina (!) went with the “NC” logo on the front. But with Michigan and UNC, at least they used the actual logo on the front of the jersey. Inexplicably (or maybe explicably, just a reason I don’t know), Nike made ours with a Cal script that wasn’t the real Cal script.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh! I’m BLIND!

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

For the love of god, Ohio Bear! Stop!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Okay, I'll stop

I was looking for the blue one, but I’ll save everyone from further psychological trauma. I shall cease and desist.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

wow

Those are truly horrible.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I see what you mean. The script is UNFINISHED!!!!

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 2:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Is the Al Grigsby retired number banner in your other ear?

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 8:43 AM PST up reply actions  

in retrospect

a NIT championship is better than a 1st or 2nd round NCAA tourney exit (which is what would have happened if Cal made the tourney).

Snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...

by Hey Bowles Hall! on Jan 19, 2010 8:47 AM PST up reply actions  

I've heard that point made before

Not sure I agree with it. The NIT championship was nice, sure, but I think NCAA tournament appearances are a better gauge of a program’s success.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 8:54 AM PST up reply actions  

But if we win the NIT we get to cheer:

“We’re #66! We’re #66!”

So there is that.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 10:17 AM PST up reply actions  

Nope, that one is actually stuck in my craw. Ben Braun’s National Championship ring from that season is stuck in my other ear.

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 8:58 AM PST up reply actions  

THIS!!

SUCK IT PRINCETON!!

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:32 PM PST up reply actions  

We proved we were the 65th best team in the country! What more could you want?

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 10:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Ted Miller releases his Top 10 Pac-10 Players of the Decade

No Cal players are on the list. No Marshawn, no Aaron, no JJ, no Jahvid, no Desean, no Mack, no Hughes… you get the idea.

Six different schools were represented. Washington, Washington St, UCLA and Cal were the schools that were not. USC lead the way (obviously) with five players, including the top 3. Toby Gerhart is number 5, Reggie Bush number 3, and Matt Leinart number 1.

http://espn.go.com/blog/ncfnation/post/_/id/18267/top-10-pac-10-players-of-the-decade

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 7:21 AM PST reply actions  

We are compelled to declare Miller Sanchez for this.

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 7:36 AM PST up reply actions  

Other than flipping Jackson and Gerhart at numbers 5 and 6 and flipping Palmer and Bush for numbers 2 and 3, I don’t have much of a quibble with this list. There are only 10 players on it. I don’t know where one of our beloved Bears would fit.

Miller did mention Arrington at the top as someone who just missed the cut.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 7:41 AM PST up reply actions  

Jackson’s NFL career has proven that he was ridiculously underrated in college.

This is the statement I don’t like. NFL careers can be vastly different than college careers. Look at Nnamdi Asomugha – you can’t say that he was underrated in college just because his NFL career is so great. No one, not even Cal fans, thought he’d turn out to be the greatest corner back in the game today.

I’m not saying that Jackson should necessarily not be on the list, but should probably be lower.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Nnamdi better than Darrel Revis?

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Yes.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder how many people think that. TBH, I don’t get to see many Raider games any more and when I do, it’s usually rather painful but I don’t know that there is a better defensive player in all of footbal right now than Revis. That dude is a fuck beast.

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:49 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL rec’d!

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:39 PM PST up reply actions  

A friend of mine had a dalliance with a girl while we were in school. She was pretty quiet, a little mousey but she would always try to hang with us when we were eating in the dorms (she was an RA as was one of my friends). Anyway, she went out carousing with us one night and she seduced my Colomgarian friend much to our amusement. The next day, he meets up with us in the dining hall and we start teasing him about her. He got this wild, crazy look in his eyes and says “She was a… FUCKBEAST”. I think she frightened him which made it that much more funny.

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Well here’s the thing about Nnamdi: coaches and players(and most sportscasters) know he’s amazing. But he doesn’t get a lot of press because his stats are seemingly low, and he’s almost never on the highlight reel. Why? Because he’s such a shutdown corner that he never gets thrown at. He’s only got 1 interception this year, and the main reason for that is that he was thrown at probably less than 30 times the whole season. If the plays are always going away from you, you’re not gonna get a bunch of picks or tackles. The Raiders play a bunch of man, so Nnamdi is pretty much out on an island most of the time, and he’s good enough that the Raiders can live like that. Also the reason he doesn’t blitz much, if I recall.

To be fair, if the Raiders had a better defense, teams would be forced to throw to him more, and he’d have higher stats. But the stats don’t really matter, as he makes the Pro Bowl every year anyway.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Plus

He was really good on Friday Night Lights, a renaissance man to be sure

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Jan 19, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno, it’s fairly easy to rationalize all of ‘em, and I bet you could do it with every member on that list. That’s what makes these silly.

I’d imagine Rodgers would have been on that list had his collegiate success lasted two years.

Best if he wasn’t injured…

Jackson’s a tough one. College success, at times, was fantastic but generally pro career > college career.

Mack’s an interior o-linemen, outside of fullback, probably the least acknowledged position on the roster. If he played OT, I bet he’d be on it.

Lynch – unsustainable NFl career to date + the legal isses.

Hughes – modest NFL success. Ibid JJ Arrington.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Jackson was a great back on a so-so team. I think another year in college would’ve been great for his numbers and probably for Oregon State but obviously it only took a few seasons for him to prove he was NFL talent.

It always kills me that he’s on the freaking Rams…

by ArbyOSU on Jan 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

ahh…I was talking about Cal’s Jackson.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahhh… well, you can almost assign it to either one. Almost…

by ArbyOSU on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

well…I don’t see the Cal players making it, even with rationalizations. Rationalizations are way different than saying “if so-and-so had only stayed 2 more years”, ya know? Well anyway, just my 2 cents.

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by BearStage on Jan 20, 2010 12:50 AM PST up reply actions  

NO MARSHAWN!??!?!?!???!

THAT’S IT, I’M DELCARING YOU SANCHEZ:

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 8:00 AM PST up reply actions  

Dude, Sanchez already declared the Chargers Sanchez two nights ago.

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by Rishi on Jan 19, 2010 8:04 AM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately for the Sanchez efficiency index, Ted Miller, Pac10 Blogger, is, apparently, NOT the SD Chargers. So, I had to make an additional effort here. Sucks, I know!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 8:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Why am I Sanchez? I am just a messenger!

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

We should screen shot this, and send it to his comment box.

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 10:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Mens BBall to take on the Oregons:

California Golden Bears (11-6, 3-2) vs. Oregon Ducks (10-7, 2-3)
Thursday, Jan. 21, 7:30 p.m. (PT), Haas Pavilion, Berkeley, Calif.
Radio: KFRC 1550 AM TV: CSN Plus

California Golden Bears (11-6, 3-2) vs. Oregon State Beavers (8-9, 2-3)
Saturday, Jan. 23, 11:00 a.m. (PT), Haas Pavilion, Berkeley, Calif.
Radio: KFRC 1550 AM TV:CBS

After getting dealt a 15-point loss at the hands of Washington last Saturday, California returns to Berkeley this weekend to face Oregon and Oregon State. The Golden Bears welcome the Ducks, who are currently on a three-game losing streak, to Haas Pavilion on Thursday, Jan. 21, at 7:30 p.m.

Two days after scoring a career-high 39 points against Washington State last Thursday, senior guard Jerome Randle was held to just five points against the Huskies. Contrary to Randle’s afternoon, fellow senior guard Patrick Christopher notched 28 points against Washington, just one point shy of tying his career best. Christopher also posted a game-high eight rebounds. Sophomore guard D.J. Seeley also collected a new personal best in scoring with his 11 points.

Despite missing 18 free throws against Washington, the Bears still made 32 of their 50 attempts. Cal’s season free throw percentage currently stands at 73.5, which is tied for fourth all-time in school history. In addiiton, Randle is on pace to set Cal’s single-season percentage record. He currently boasts an average of 92.7, which also ranks sixth in the nation right now.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 7:52 AM PST reply actions  

I know a lot of my friends’ parents use Jewish guilt as a parenting trick with them (take notes carp, Ragnarok, and zoonews). As a way to control their kids. “Oh, you want such that you go to a bad college 13 years from now? Why would you do that to me?”

by TwistNHook on Dec 15, 2009 7:27 AM PST

Damn, that’s great advice!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 8:01 AM PST reply actions   1 recs

rec’d for self-induced fellatio

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 8:24 AM PST up reply actions  

All the advice given makes great refrigerator poetry:

I should make life SHITTIER for my nephew Whitey McWhiteWhite for bringing me here. Chuck E Cheese sells condoms as a way to control their kids.

That’s probably all I need to know.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

the whole subject of parenting....

my advice or suggestions are to remember that you are the childs first teacher and that they learn waaaaaaaaaayyyyy more than you think they are learning.

also, reason and logic are a waste of your time until they are 6 years old, and don’t actually matter to the kids until they are 9 or 10.

also, there are a number of books on parenting and child rearing and such….nearly all of them are absolute CRAP, imo.

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by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 9:17 AM PST reply actions  

read this, then put the advice from all other sources through the lense of

logic and child development discussed.

http://www.amazon.com/You-Your-Childs-First-Teacher/dp/0890879672

While we are all innernet savy and what not here….it is important for the full development of children to restrict the use of video display monitors until they are older (like 10 yrs).

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by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 9:22 AM PST up reply actions  

interesting…my wife and I don’t have a TV, but we’ve been talking about getting one with all the Baby Einstein videos, PBS, etc. Sure it would be nice to have that, but I must say we don’t really miss trying to find whatever “meh” program is on. We get our news from the Internet, watch two or three shows on hulu.com, and rent movies from Redbox. If I need to watch a Cal road game, we go over to her brothers house who has a 60" TV, which allows us to be more social. I don’t really think we have the restraint to get a nice HDTV and then not watch it.

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--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 10:14 AM PST up reply actions  

it's not the quality of the programing its

the activity of sitting and watching that is detrimental to development.

before the age of 6 kids learn by imitation and doing. from 6 to 10 they learn by doing and talking. after 10 they can learn from reading/watching.

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by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 10:33 AM PST up reply actions  

What about after 28?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 10:48 AM PST up reply actions  

before the age of 6 kids learn by imitation and doing. from 6 to 10 they learn by doing and talking. after 10 they can learn from reading/watching.

I’m so going to write that down and put it on my fridge.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 10:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m no parent but it seems like waiting till age 10 to let them read seems like it’s a little too late. By age ten I was in 5th grade. I started reading by age 3 or 4.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 10:54 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m no parent

YOU LIE!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

As far as he knows.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

no, you’re right. You should begin reading to them immediately.

I think what he is saying is that when you’re reading, they are learning about the reading/language, not the subject matter. They’ll only be independently learning when they can abstract ideas from the books later. For us brilliant people, that may be before 10, but you shouldn’t just sit a kid down and say ‘go’ and expect all parenting to be done. Abstract thought will appear later.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh ok. Makes sense. Still think 10 is too late but it makes more sense now :p

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 11:00 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think he’s saying that you wait until 10 to have them read, just that it’s not a primary source of information. The Norwegians don’t bother teaching reading until kids are about 7, and if you really want to go nuts you could send your kid to a Waldorf school where they learn to read when they feel like it… which is why my 7 year old reads chapter books and our friend’s 7 year old at a Waldorf school can’t even read toddler board books.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I was on a flight a couple of months ago and the woman next to me was telling me all about Waldorf education (I was interested to know). Interesting methodology, and I like the focus on artistic exploration… but I don’t think I could wait til 2nd grade to have my child learn to read. Heck, I’d have to refrain from reading for all that time, it’s not like my child wouldn’t notice me with books in my hand and be curious.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It depends on the kid, really. Our friends with the son who can’t read yet would tell you that by 7, the girls are all reading, but it’s a crap shoot with the boys. He’s a good kid but he can’t cope with being locked down in a traditional classroom and the Waldorf experience of self-directed learning really works for him.

Put it this way, he lasted 2 weeks in a regular Kindergarten before he hit a teacher, and he’d spent 3 years in Waldorf pre-school previously, and is in his third year of regular Waldorf school, and never a minute’s trouble.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually went to Waldorf in 2nd and 3rd grade. I was already a good reader, and I remember being very frustrated being in a class with kids who were just starting to learn to read. On the other hand, they really pushed math. When I returned to public school in 4th grade, I was a couple of years ahead of my classmates in math. And since I read a lot on my own, the lack of reading instruction didn’t hurt me. I don’t know what their theory was about math vs. reading. It didn’t do me any harm, but I can’t say I would recommend it.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

I think that gets back to the question of it depending on the kid. My older girl is a classic rule-following older child, so she copes just fine with regular school, but it wouldn’t kill her to learn to be more independent. Plenty of time yet though.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 1:24 PM PST up reply actions  

No question that it depends on the child. I was there because my older brother wasn’t coping well with public school, and my parents were trying to find a good fit for him. Apparently it was too complicated to have kids at different schools with different schedules, so I got sent along for the ride. But Waldorf was pretty weird. Little reading, lots of math, lots of drawing pictures to illustrate folk tales we were told, playing the recorder and “eurythmy” – some sort of interpretive dance thing. I’m glad I didn’t get stuck there for more than a couple of years.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

We did a lot more auto-harp than recorder.

I believe I did “When Johnny Comes Marching Home Again” for my solo piece.

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 3:04 PM PST up reply actions  

To clarify: I was already literate, and I never wore hemp.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh I’m not ranting about you, I just got a bit… distracted by the trauma of “musical education.”

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 3:43 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm in tears I'm laughing so hard.

I’m actually on the board of a waldorf school…and until high school…eurythmy (the weird interpretive dance stuff) is really more like odd calesthenics set to music.

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by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sure I would have been fine with eurythmy, it’s the PTSD associated with the recorder that set me off.

And for what it’s worth, my kids have had plenty of Waldorf toys through the early years. After all, not only did the missus do her grad work in cognitive science (which is why our house operates on similar video avoidance principles to yours), but she grew up in Ann Arbor in a house where her dad belonged to a tofu co-op. She’s sympathetic in other words, and I can certainly see the benefits.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Eurythmy was stupid. Even as a seven-year-old I knew that much.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know that my 7 year old’s homework assignment last night – to write 5 sentences about Martin Luther King Jr and what she hopes / dreams for. Seriously? I was sorely tempted to tell her to be honest and write about her hope that she gets into the dance class she wants to take but which is oversubscribed.

Instead I kept my mouth shut and she wrote about recycling and trash.

by DC Trojan on Jan 20, 2010 7:53 AM PST up reply actions  

GOOD PARENTING.

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by AndBears on Jan 20, 2010 8:18 AM PST up reply actions  

The idea of having a bunch of illiterate hemp-wearing kids free-styling on the recorder would be more than enough to push me over the edge.

You’re a cool guy, DC, but every now and the Trojan-ness comes bubbling to the surface…

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s not Trojan-ness, that’s ye olde timey Scottishness coming through. Despite that, I have much more in common with most Waldorf parents than I do with parents at St Albans, Georgetown Country Day, and other elite local private schools.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Waldorf was weird. Waldorf teachers were weird. Waldorf parents were weird.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I may well be weird, but it’s not for Waldorf reasons.

by DC Trojan on Jan 20, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Ha! I could read entire cereal boxes by age 3! Now that’s abstract thinking.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:05 AM PST up reply actions  

I still can’t read entire cereal boxes.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

“Packaged by weight, not by volume. Some settling of the contents may occur during shipping.”

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

baby carp just read about how to open up aziridines with control of stereochemistry (it was in Science).

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:26 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d like to see baby carp write a DBD if he’s so smart!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

he already handles my investments.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh! He’s that investment baby on TV?

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Make Baby Carp super smart, so he gets a good job and can put Papa Carp into a nice retirement home?

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 12:14 PM PST up reply actions  

FIRE RISHI!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I always preferred monochemistry – the basses aren’t too deep and the trebles aren’t so high.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

*Spoiler Alert*

The rabbit doesn’t get the Trix and the children never catch the Leprechaun.

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by norcalnick on Jan 19, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t know, I learned pretty early on from The Pokey Little Puppy that if I wasn’t punctual, I could lose my desert.

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 12:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I lost a desert once. The Gobi desert, to be specific. It kind of sucked, that’s a lot of sand to lose all at once.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 2:02 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

My mum had me learning to read at age 2. By kindergarten I was reading books aloud to the rest of my classmates.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Im sure they loved you.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:34 PM PST up reply actions  

My teacher did. She would put me on a chair in the middle of the room and have the kids sit on the floor around me as I read to them. I loved it. Can’t say about the other kids, though. Hopefully they enjoyed hearing the stories?

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

reading yes. but they don't learn history or math by reading

until older. kids brains are not quite set up to LEARN from reading or watching a lecture until after 10 or so.

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by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesting, thank you!

I’ve wondered for some time, “amidointhisrite?” I think I now know, that I need some guidance. I bought a used copy of that book for $2.50

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

I’ve heard that studies show those Baby Einstein videos to be of little to no additional value to the kid. Probably because the kid has evolved to study faces and interactions, not television.

Also in the former guest room we have a small tv and dvd player, for the supposed guests, though I don’t know if anyone ever used it. I’m pretty sure I don’t want a tv in the kids room, but it has been suggested that there it could be for the parent during feeding times.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 10:45 AM PST up reply actions  

Nah, your baby will look up at you while feeding and it will be one of the coolest things evair.

We do have a fish tank in the nursery, and he happens to love that. I do worry about the stability of that thing during a seismic event…55 gallons of poo water…

Say, you need a fish tank?

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

hmm… that sounds fishy…

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 11:04 AM PST up reply actions  

You are missing the point, my dear. Baby Einstein videos are a great babysitter while you have a few moments of sanity time. The “learning” is a mere byproduct, the quiet is what is epic.

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 11:06 AM PST up reply actions  

So it would have the same effectiveness as an interesting color show. Worthwhile for quiet time, sure!

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 11:08 AM PST up reply actions  

I know people who swear by Baby Einstein but mostly because their kid just flat out loved watching it over and over rather than for the educational benefits.

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

“baby carp nap time” is, I admit, the the most valuble time of the day in terms of getting adult stuff done.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, especially since Disney settled a class-action lawsuit overthe videos, and is now offering refunds. Basically, Disney knowingly made false claims about the videos’ efficacy.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t get Baby Einstein videos – they’re such a waste of time that the company is having to refund for purchases IIRC. Outside has plenty of stuff to look at.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Couldn’t agree more. We’ve allowed them to watch a small amount of tv a week and have opened the door slightly on a short list of movies (1 per weekend), but they don’t spend any time in front of the tv.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I think TV watching in infants is linked to ADD later in life, isn’t it?

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 2:03 PM PST up reply actions  

if it hasn’t been yet, you could start that internet rumor!

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

anecdotally....

actually at the kids school, new kids who are put on a diet of less sugar, and no tv….suddenly lose the ADD tendencies they had previously.

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by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

But with Adderall, Ritalin, Conerta et al you can enjoy the wonders of sugar and TV while still paying attention when necessary!

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 4:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I could probably achieve the same results by staying off the internet but even the idea makes me think that there are beetles on my ankles.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 9:34 PM PST up reply actions  

For the lawyers, Indians, and Bill Bryson fans out there

Link: Unhappy lawyers: New law school grads gather in someone’s office, close the door, and say, ‘I hate my life, why are we doing this?’

Link: West Bengal’s Communist leader dies (but his party continues to screw the state and retard progress).

Dec. 2009 interview with Bill Bryson; his next book is At Home: An informal history of private life.

I promised my wife I’d write a book where I didn’t have to leave home. We live in a rectory that was built in 1851 and in the book I explore how the rooms have been lived in throughout history. The bathroom illustrates the history of hygiene; the living room, the history of comfort; and the bedroom, sex, death and sleeping.

by kolwave on Jan 19, 2010 9:34 AM PST reply actions  

two cents

Hey AndBears, you want to make all associations with Cal positive ones, so you have to walk that line between all Go Bears all the time, and (peanut rolls its eyes) "Mom and Dad (and crazy Uncle Twist) are really annoying, I’m going to <insert tiny liberal arts college on East Coast here>.

So, the bear and blanket sound solid, because people always have deep attachments to their earliest possessions. Maybe spread around the poster, banner, and Daily Cal around the house so the Cal spirit is omnipresent, but not suffocatingly so? So that peanut doesn’t start resenting/avoiding the “Cal room”?

by kolwave on Jan 19, 2010 9:52 AM PST reply actions  

I didn’t really care that much about Cal until I got hired as an Outreach Consultant for Colgate University. Now, I’m Cal’s MOST ANNOYING fan!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 9:54 AM PST up reply actions  

Actually, thats not true. Ive been Cal’s MOST ANNOYING fan for some time now. Its the main reason that Colgate hired me.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 10:58 AM PST up reply actions  

So are you secretly telling kids in interviews to go to Cal instead?

Twist : double agent!

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 11:02 AM PST up reply actions  

“Mom and Dad (and crazy Uncle Twist) are really annoying, I’m going to .

haha so true.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 10:01 AM PST up reply actions  

aaaah, good idea. More subtle – family indoctrination, not pressure filled ‘you love Cal! LOVE IT!’.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 10:47 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, subtlety is key. You don’t want peanut to start questioning (let alone rejecting) allegiance to Cal, so don’t be overbearing about the blue and gold.

by kolwave on Jan 19, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

I was also counting on you (and the majority of our friends who are Cal grads) to give our kid a more balance idea of a Cal Grad than just Twist. Congrats! You’re an influencer!

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 11:03 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha I was just about to write something about that. That auntie kolwave & co will be such cool, fun, and nice aunties/uncles that peanut will continue to automatically associate Cal = WIN (even if, you know, Cal Athletics does not follow through with that).

by kolwave on Jan 19, 2010 11:11 AM PST up reply actions  

Why do you keep calling babies peanuts? Any reason?

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by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

Because you have to crack open their hard shell to get to the deliciousness underneath??

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

What’s wrong with you!?

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by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Usually when you make that comment, I deflect with just a joke about how we don’t have time for the entire list.

But the honest truth is that, disturbingly, you continue to take unimportant things seriously. I hope to see a change out of you soon, royrules22. You’ve certainly been around this motley crue for 2 or so years now, I’d think you’d soak up something.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m sorry if this is a bit harsh, royrules, but I have high hopes for you. Your post below gives me a glimmer of hope, let’s keep pushing on this.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 11:41 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought it was funny.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 11:49 AM PST up reply actions  

I thought Twist’s joke was mildly entertaining. Having children only ruins the fu

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

FAIL

I was going to say, having kids only ruins the really sick jokes. And by sick, I mean pedophile jokes, not “delicious meatiness of a peanut child innards.”

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 11:53 AM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have kids, and I can’t really handle pedophile jokes.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much all jokes are pedophile jokes if you listen closely enough

by Kai on Jan 19, 2010 5:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Perhaps Twist was engaging in metaphor, describing the inner beauty of all children. Quite poetic, really.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

This is a lot to assume of Twist

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by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 12:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Firstly, nice. Way to step up your game.

Secondly, just to be clear on this, you realize that when I make a joke about opening up a peanut like that, I’m not actually murdering a child to devour their delicious innards. Just wanted to be clear on that.

Because, after all, hobo innards are SO much more delicious! And fewer legal problems.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Because really, who gives a shit about hoboes?

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 1:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Hopefully, not royrules, whose decency has been broached so many times today. I hope he didn’t shatter any of his monocles.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

nah

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 1:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Luckily he has back-up lorgnettes

by kolwave on Jan 19, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

OH SHIT! KOLWAVE, YOU ARE A GENIUS! Toads for cereal. I’m using lorgnette for all future monocle jokes. What a fresh of breath air!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you, tip your waiter

G Images had a picture of a Halloween costume best described as “saucy 19th century lorgnette-wearer” but I decided not to risk that link.

by kolwave on Jan 19, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I feel like you are overcompensating for one hotlink mistake. Who amongst us hasn’t attempt to hotlink to a photo only to have a sexy spanking photo pop up instead? It happens to the best of us. You can still hold your head high!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 3:48 PM PST up reply actions  

More sexy spanking photos please!

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by Cugel on Jan 19, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Is the word hobo back in vogue? My nephew keeps referring to the people on Telegraph Avenue as hoboes, but I thought that word went out in the 1930s.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Sure, it’s what all the flappers are saying as they drive by in their steady squeeze’s jalopy, perched on the rumble seat.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 3:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Well that’s just the cat’s meow.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Shhhhh – don’t tell MadBum! We need to keep him around a bit longer, he’s not ripe yet.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, AndBears called it that a while ago (because it was then the size of a peanut). Now I guess it’s more like “mouse”, but I stuck with peanut anyway. I also feel strange about calling it, well, “it”.

by kolwave on Jan 19, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

I like Peanut.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

My wife and I also called our baby peanut when he was little.

Peanuts of the world unite!

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Better than calling it “the little fucker” I suppose. And yes, I am expecting to burn in hell for all eternity.

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions  

One of my friends call his 3 year old son “Richard” because hes kind of a dick. To be fair, the son is kind of a dick.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

Since we didn’t find out the sex of our kids until they were born, we referred to the older one as “Humberto” and the younger one as “H2” or occasionally Hrothgar. Until they were born, obviously, and then we gave them names appropriate for girls.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Just out of curiosity, why wouldn’t you want to know the sex of your child before birth?

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

We enjoy surprises?

Partly because we didn’t care, and partly to avoid getting inundated in pink / blue clothes etc. It’s bad enough once they’re born, at least this way they had a couple of months of relative anonymity before the relatives start the gender role programming.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

So you got lots of pastel yellow and green clothes instead?

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty much. But when they’re that small, having enough to keep up with the laundry cycle is the main thing.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:51 PM PST up reply actions  

After Humberto Humberto, the main character in the Spanish translation of Lolita?

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

No. It just seemed suitably ridiculous.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 3:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, plus it makes me think of this guy (ok, so I really hope that this hotlink works):

Also, I found this one, which seems appropriate with the axe and all (again, I hope that the link doesn’t turn into something embarrassing):

by kolwave on Jan 19, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

OMG why are you posting hardcore pornography!? Think of the kids!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Now, here we go! This is better royrules!!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

btw, update from the doctor, peanut is, like, swimming around in there. Peanut avoided the heart monitor apparently. Doc literally said ‘Oh, it got away from me for a sec’.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Stop naming nuts

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 11:35 AM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s common to refer to embryo/fetus as a little peanut since it kind of looks like one; our doc often did that and we didn’t mind. We actually thought it was humorous.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

“Doctor, how dare you! I am not a legume!!”

Costs assessed against Twist

by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Peanut shape and peanut size.

Say, is anyone else getting a craving for peanuts?

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

you obviously don’t have enough pregnant friends on FB….

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 1:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Honestly, I don’t think you’ll have to worry about it too much. You love Cal, so wrap him/her up in all the Cal stuff you like. Choices about college are gonna depend a lot on what the kid wants to study, who’s got what good program, and whether or not the kid wants to stay near home.

Some kids will love their parents’ alma mater and decide to go there, continuing the family tradition – and some will have a more independent bent and decide to break the mold. My dad went to USC – it’s a good school. I grew up rooting for the Trojans, watching Trojan football, I had USC caps and sweatshirts and t-shirts growing up. My dad wasn’t super-fan (we didn’t go to any games or anything), but he was a loyal alum. I even spent a week on the USC campus when I was in 7th grade as part of a program (it wasn’t USC-sponsored), so I had a decent feel for the place. In the end, I went to Berkeley because I loved the campus, they were the #1 school in the two things I wanted to study(chem/optometry) and I wanted to get away from home. If I were totally in love with LA, didn’t have a burning desire to be away from home, and USC had the top chemistry program in the country, my decision might have been different, who knows. It’ll depend more on your child’s personality than anything else.

Wherever your child goes, you’ll be happy for them, and you’ll buy gear and clothing from that school, and sport it because your kid goes there – even if it’s that school across the Bay. Horrid though, I know – but that’s unconditional love for ya.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:11 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope to have a good enough relationship with my future kids such that 1) They wouldn’t choose ’Furd in the first place, and 2) Even if they did, I could still wear my Cal gear and give them good-natured ribbing about their school.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 1:46 PM PST up reply actions  

This is a good point. I have friends who are both Cal grads and die-hard Cal fans. Their daughter refused to even apply to Cal because it was “so mom-and-dad.” She became a Duck (and went to the Rose Bowl — sob).

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:07 AM PST up reply actions  

I fear proximity to Cal may be the defining factor. UCSD is a fine school, but I had to go 500 miles away for a reason.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 11:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Move

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 11:10 AM PST up reply actions  

Make sure AndCub knows that he or she won’t be expected to live at home or come over for dinner every week.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:16 AM PST up reply actions  

Right, had a friend who went to Cal, parents lived about where I live now. She NEVER saw them.

“Kid, you don’t have to come home for any meals, you’re entirely independent, but we’ll make sure the laundry is ready if you need to sneak in and use it.”

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

If AndCub turns out to be a boy, I can’t wait until he brings home his first gf that might, shall we say, be more likely to measure up to UncleCarp’s standards and not MamaBear’s.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Far away from home, FTW!

Finally, a factor that weighs in favor of one or more of my kids wanting to go to Cal!

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

Was it to get closer to me?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

no.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 2:39 PM PST up reply actions  

I relaly wish I knew what that said.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

“Stay away from me Twist, or I’ll jump!”

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:02 PM PST up reply actions  

two more cents (start saving 'em for baby Andbears education)

I have thought long and hard about this (seeing as I have a baby yorzepol on the way in April) and think the best thing to do is to assume that my son will not automatically want to go to Cal (though I will never understand why.) I have come to terms with it. There are only two schools (and if you can’t figure out which two you might be on the wrong sportsblog,) that I will feel terrible about financially supporting his descision and even then I will probably pony up the money. As much as I love Cal, I already love my kid more.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 10:59 AM PST up reply actions  

AAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWW…….

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 11:01 AM PST up reply actions  

And your son will love you for it. Somewhat bizarrely, I only applied to two schools for undergrad: Cal and Stanfurd. When I got into both, my dad — as true a Blue as you can imagine — told me that if I wanted to go to Stanfurd he and my mom would take out a second mortgage to cover the tuition. What a dad! Fortunately I had the good sense to prefer Cal.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:12 AM PST up reply actions  

I ain’t paying for private school. If he wants to go there, he’ll have to figure out how. Outside of that, I’ll be happy whether he’s a general contractor or a professor of awesome.

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by zoonews on Jan 19, 2010 11:15 AM PST up reply actions  

Tuition was much lower in those days, even at Furd. I believe it was around $10,000 a year. (Cal was $750 a year, BTW.)

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:18 AM PST up reply actions  

btw, private school for k-8th can be like $20,000 tuition a year. CRAZY

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 11:19 AM PST up reply actions  

Yep. Harker school in San Jose costs nearly as much as Stanfurd

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

Baby day care in our shitty hood is $1200/mo.

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Jan 19, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

btw, ask your wife when she wants lunch/dinner. I’ll deliver.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 11:23 AM PST up reply actions  

From what I understand it can be a financial wash for both parents to work after the baby is born because of the child care bills and extra hassle.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

This

we’re paying closer to 2k/mo for a nanny. baby carp’s not quite ready to be at a daycare and crying for 3 minutes straight with his acid reflux.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Yeah but you have a hot 19 year old with big tits in your house a lot. $2k/month sounds like a fair trade off

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 11:37 AM PST up reply actions  

turns out: she wasn’t that hot. I know. She’s actually a 31-year old that loves to eat poorly. She used a college pic on her application. I know.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

NANNY FAIL

carp FTL

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

This is like Nate Kaeding missing 3 field goals. He’s a pro bowler, he shouldn’t be making basic mistakes like this!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on your situation, if one partner is making $35k-ish then I’d say just stay home. Unfortunately we each make more than that so he’ll have to make some new friends and learn Spanish up the street.

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by zoonews on Jan 19, 2010 11:34 AM PST up reply actions  

hey, r u going to claim childcare as a deduction? We’re thinking about it…but I think our nanny will get hosed in the deal.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

We’re just getting started, haven’t figured that shit out yet. Since we both work running the bulk of it through a flexible spending account seems like the best good option: get that money pre-tax. But yeah, has to be on the table with a tax id or ssn.

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Jan 19, 2010 11:52 AM PST up reply actions  

interesting…our nanny seems to think our deduction will hurt her more than it helps us. I have no idea, but she makes too much as it is and I don’t think she pays taxes.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:55 AM PST up reply actions  

plus she’s a 31 year old who eats poorly and is not up to proper Nanny standards. WTF?

Goin' balls deep with Cal since 1972!

by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

should I try: pooper sex or c ya?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I think you need to say this all the time. BTW, where did this come from, because that must have been a good place.

Costs assessed against Twist

by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

so wrong.

so…

of course.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s probably why. If she gets paid under the table she doesn’t have to report the income and therefore not pay taxes (which is a considerable boost in income.)

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Define under the table? We pay her with a personal check from our checking account. Is there a way to get around that? I’d love for her to have to pay taxes like every other legal resident.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 12:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I am no tax attorney but,

but I depending on whether she is your employee or a contractor would determine how much in taxes she should pay herself and how much YOU should pay for her.

Companies pay ~1/2 of their employees social security taxes and do the federal tax witholding for their employees as well.

I think contractors are supposed to take care of some of that themselves (and that’s where the under the table shennanigans occur.)

However, I am not a tax attorney and that is my very rudimentary understanding of the proccess.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Independent contractors pay the self-employment tax in quarterly installments, or something.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions  

We self-employed types must make quarterly estimated tax payments for social security, medicare and income tax. (The social security and medicare taxes — for us called self-employment tax — is 15.3% starting at the first dollar earned!)

If the nanny is an independent contractor, then she is solely responsible for paying her taxes. However, the hirer is responsible for filing a 1099 informing the IRS how much she is paid. If the hirer does not file a 1099, he or she may end up liable for the unpaid taxes. If the nanny is an employee, then the hirer must pay 1/2 the social security and medicare taxes and — I think — withhold income tax.

To be an independent contractor, a person has to have control over the means and methods by which the work is done. The test can be kind of mushy, but I would imagine that if she works in the hirer’s home, subject to the instructions of the hirer, she will be an employee. On the other hand, if the child is taken to a day care location, including the nanny’s home, it is more likely that she will be considered an independent contractor.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 2:19 PM PST up reply actions  

You could also say that the nanny is left to decide upon the means and methods of how she is going to be a nanny.

How much control does she have?

Are you just saying, “You are the nanny and we trust in your judgment to get the job (i.e. creating a safe and positive environment for my child while I am gone) done.”

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 2:27 PM PST up reply actions  

What if she works in our home, we’re not present for the hours that she is working, she has full control of the rearing/care of the baby, keeps her resume posted, brings her own supplies, and is in charge of her own tax issues?

Is she any different than a landscaping service?

Of course, I don’t think we can then claim “childcare-related deductions” if she’s a contractor…or can we?

Workers who are not your employees:
If only the worker can control how the work is done, the worker is not your employee but is self-employed. A self-employed worker usually provides his or her own tools and offers services to the general public in an independent business.
A worker who performs child care services for you in his or her home generally is not your employee.
If an agency provides the worker and controls what work is done and how it is done, the worker is not your employee.
Example. You made an agreement with John Peters to care for your lawn. John runs a lawn care business and offers his services to the general public. He provides his own tools and supplies, and he hires and pays any helpers he needs. Neither John nor his helpers are your household employees.

http://www.householdemploymenttaxes.com/employeedefinition.shtml

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

The determination of employee vs. independent contractor is very fact intensive and must be done on a case-by-case basis. Lots of big companies have gotten bitten by trying to classify people as independent contractors. You should go over your individual situation with a lawyer or CPA.

As the quoted passage states (and as I previously stated), if the child care services are done outside your home, the person is probably an independent contractor. But if a nanny is working in your home, is working only for you, and you set her work hours, there is a good chance she is an employee. That’s different from a lawn guy who works for many people, goes from one house to the next, arrives on his own schedule, does his work, and goes on to the next house.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

if she’s contract labor, can I still enjoy childcare deductions :)

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 4:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Ah, yes, I had forgotten the setting of hours. That’s usually a defining factor. Even with landscape people, if you say “you have to come at 3PM and stay until 5PM doing this, this, and this” you’ve got an employee. Scheduling a time, but generally decided upon by the person’s availability: contractor. Even if they work for more than one person you could just have a part-time employee.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Can you incorporate your baby?

minicarp, llc?

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

if she is an employee, we’d have to pay SS, medicare, and unemployment taxes. She would gain all of those benefits plus a verifiable income (for loans, etc). For every $1000 check, she’d have $73 taken out and we’d have to pay an addition $160.

Question: Anyway I can legally reduce her pay to account for her benefits and my tax fees?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 3:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyway I can legally reduce her pay to account for her benefits and my tax fees?

Sure. The law only requires that you pay her at least minimum wage. The only other restriction is that you can’t reduce her wages if you have agreed by contract to pay her a certain rate and not to reduce it. That could be a written, oral or implied contract. It seems unlikely that you have such a contract.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

thank you! I <3 CGB Legal

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I bet the nanny’s not gonna be happy if you suddenly decide garnish her wages to pay the tax man.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah…I agree.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 5:06 PM PST up reply actions  

You might be able to drive her off and go for the replacement. Have you considered the au pair approach? Because holy hell various neighbors of ours have lucked out in that regard. In whatever sense you choose to take that.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I have been able to earn more “per hour” as an independent contractor than as an employee, in part due to the fact that I’m paying the taxes and the person paying me (usually a business, so may be different for you) can deduct fully what they pay me as a business expense. Since I wasn’t giving them the option, though, I do not want to comment on whether you can pay someone less when you convert them from an IC to an employee to account for the taxes you have to pay. I do not know enough about that to confidently say.

I’m not sure about how the deductions go since you’re not a business.

Regarding benefits, independent contractor income reported through 1099s is “verifiable” in many of the same ways that W-2 income is. She can also deduct, as business expenses, anything related to what she’s doing as a nanny.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 3:08 PM PST up reply actions  

thank you!

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 4:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope you gentlemen realize that by posting this information, you have just lost all chance of national political office.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:57 AM PST up reply actions  

I pay taxes on everything and vote in every election, so I’m still presidential material except for the fucking cursing and atheist rantings.

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Jan 19, 2010 11:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Why? Not that I have any interest, but I’m not doing anything illegal that I know of. I pay her based on an hourly rate, and it’s up to her to pay her taxes.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you pay social security taxes for her? And withhold taxes from her paycheck? I believe there is a simplified way for individuals to pay their “nanny tax” via their income tax returns, but it still has to be paid. This is what tripped up Zoe Baird from becoming Attorney General. I don’t know all the details, but you ought to check with a CPA on this.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, will do. We’re meeting in early Feb.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 12:16 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah I think I’m ridin’ dirty, unless I consider her “contract labor” and don’t request childcare deductions. Of course, she would miss out on benefits like unemployment, SS (lol), medicare, and a reportable income (for loans, etc.).

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 1:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Ugh, just read that dependent care FSA accounts are capped at $5,000 annually regardless of marital status. Well, that’s a few months, now more studying needed. They didn’t tell me that there would be math!

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Jan 19, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

Well, it seems that getting the $5k pre-tax is the best we can do. Yay taxes. Just have to remember to sign up for a FSA next year despite hating them.

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Jan 19, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately we each make more than that

I hate you.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, my old 7-12 school is up around $25,000/year at this point. It was like $7,000/year when I started there. INSANITY.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, you really hate William & Mary that much?!?!?!?!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 11:14 AM PST up reply actions  

Those bastards don’t even have a mascot!

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 11:21 AM PST up reply actions  

He hates Mary. He’s kind of indifferent to William.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 11:22 AM PST up reply actions  

You say that now, but after you’ve had them for a while… Well, I suppose it’s theoretically possible that I might underwrite my kids going to UCLA or Notre Dame, but I would sign those checks with the heavy heart of a man who knows he has failed.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

That’s what I am saying. I would do it for them but, inside, I would be very sad indeed.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Mom and Dad are really annoying, I’m going to

That’s my plan to prevent any notions of the children going to SC. I’d like them to remain in the insular warmth of northeastern colleges, but I’m not going to tell them that.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Send them to Cal.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Assuming it hasn’t been turned into a smoldering crater by the Regents in the next 15 years… they could do a whole lot worse, that’s for sure.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Why DC, that’s the nicest thing any $c fan has ever said to us!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, it’s true. It’s a fine university.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Which produces graduates like the people who post here . . .

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey

Were supposed to be trying to make Cal look good! Why’d you bring CGB up for?

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Nowhere’s perfect.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember when we could say the opposite of U$C

But they have made excellent strides in the last couple of decades and are now one of the better universities in the country. Not as good as Cal of course but, that still leaves every OTHER university in the country.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 12:40 PM PST up reply actions  

$c was only a couple of spots behind U.C. Los Angeles in the last U.S. New rankings. Imagine the reaction if $c overtakes them!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

UCLA would go completely mental. They’d be throwing poop in the streets of Westood like a bunch of demented powder-blue wearing gibbons.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:44 PM PST up reply actions  

And looking desperately for anyone at U.S. News who has an $c connection, however attenuated, so they could blame the rankings on unfair bias.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:46 PM PST up reply actions  

But I heard one writer’s sister’s roommate’s uncle’s maid sent her daughter to USC!

RIGGED!!!

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

These conspiracy theories always ignore the open corruption in the hopes of uncovering something tenuous.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 1:00 PM PST up reply actions  

I fear that it's only a matter of time

Although the Govenator seems to want to reverse the trend, the state legislature has been evicerating the higher education system for a long time and such high academic standards can’t be maintained without more state support.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 12:47 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s been gratifying to watch, I have to say. There are people who are deans now who were the bright rising professors when I was there, and that’s encouraging too. The real acid test is going to be what happens when Steven Sample leaves; I fear a backlash from the alumni segment who think that the university has become too big for its britches (ie, their kids don’t just automatically get in any longer.)

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 12:43 PM PST up reply actions  

WTFF Of The Day: Bills finally hire a new coach...

CHAN GAILEY?!

That’s correct. The guy who got fired as OC BEFORE the season started…

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by Rishi on Jan 19, 2010 9:57 AM PST reply actions  

I want to die.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 19, 2010 11:25 AM PST up reply actions  

Don’t those Pete Carroll rumours I made up several months ago sound so much better now?

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by Rishi on Jan 19, 2010 11:36 AM PST up reply actions  

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2010/01/18/actionreaction-harbaugh-and-the-bills-pac-10-football-and-basketball-and-more/

harbaq sounded like he was only one or two choices up from Gailey…might the NFL interest for Harbaw be not quite be the reported rate?

Wilner’s report had an interesting quote:

Harbaugh wouldn’t even guarantee he’d coach Stanford next fall: "Nobody has promised that. I’m not going to write anything in blood on a stone tablet."

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:38 AM PST up reply actions  

He’s just waiting for RichRod to burn out in Michigan so he can return and be the savoir.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope that happens

I’d like to see that here. Harby would definitely spice up the Michigan-Ohio State rivalry.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Haurbaugh wants to be the savoir faire in Michigan?

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Will he smoke them all, with an intellect and savoir faire?

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

no one in the Big 10 conference could ever compare…

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

But it’s not like he was fired from being the Bills’ OC, and then re-hired as head coach. I’m not so horrified by this hire.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m definitely horrified. It’s so gauche!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:42 PM PST up reply actions  

Four-day old story out from the USA Today on college athletics and subsidies.

More than $800 million in student fees and university subsidies are propping up athletic programs at the nation’s top sports colleges, including hundreds of millions in the richest conferences, a USA TODAY analysis found.
The subsidies have reached that level amid a continuing crisis in higher education funding. At some of the schools where athletics is most heavily subsidized, faculty salaries have dipped, state-funded financial aid is drying up and students are bracing for tuition and fee increases.

Taken together, the subsidies for athletics at 99 public schools in the NCAA’s 120-member Football Bowl Subdivision grew about 20% in four years, from $685 million in 2005 to $826 million in 2008, after adjusting for inflation. At more than a third of those schools, the percentage of athletic department revenue coming from subsidies grew during the four-year period studied.
Of the 30 public schools where the percentage of athletics revenue coming from allocated sources rose the most from 2005 to 2008, about half are from schools in the power conferences, often assumed to be self-supporting. The ’09 reports, which might show bigger gaps because of the recession, are due Friday.

At the University of Cincinnati, a Big East Conference school, subsidies grew from 26.7% ($5.6 million) of athletics revenue in 2005 to 33.1% ($10.7 million) in ’08. That made Cincinnati the power-conference public school where reliance on subsidies grew most during the years studied. UC athletics also has a $24 million operating debt.

“The ultimate goal is to have the athletics department running on its own,” said Tim Lolli, the student body president. “But students here love big-time athletics … and they are willing and eager to help athletics as much as possible.”

Cincinnati has trimmed its budget. The faculty has faced state budget cuts, hiring “frosts” and some wage freezes. Bigger class loads are coming, faculty chairwoman Marla Hall said.

Scholarships to three sports, including men’s track and field, were cut last year, coach Bill Schnier said. But new money might not bring them back.

“If (college) sports have to match the pros dollar-for-dollar in salaries and facilities, then we’ll have to find more money next year, and the year after that, and the year after that,” Schnier said. “Someone has to put an end to this madness.”

Nebraska and Louisiana State were the only schools whose athletics programs reported receiving no subsidies in each of the four years studied.
Rank (by percentage point change) School Percent of allocated revenue to total budget, inflation adjusted, 2005 Percent of allocated revenue to total budget, inflation adjusted, 2008 Percentage point change, 2005-2008 Total reported athletics department revenue, inflation adjusted, 2008
 
1 Hawaii 9.4% 26.3% 16.9% $37,200,582
 
2 Louisiana Tech 43.8% 55.4% 11.6% $14,568,211
 
3 Nevada Las Vegas 39.0% 49.6% 10.6% $38,145,508
 
4 Memphis 19.2% 29.6% 10.4% $34,170,804
 
5 Louisiana-Lafayette 42.4% 52.8% 10.4% $11,429,370
 
6 San Diego State 42.8% 52.5% 9.8% $31,923,724
 
7 Colorado State 33.2% 41.6% 8.4% $23,615,286
 
8 Alabama at Birmingham 48.5% 55.3% 6.8% $22,294,977
 
9 Cincinnati 26.7% 33.1% 6.4% $32,086,030
 
10 Colorado 8.8% 14.9% 6.1% $52,313,127
 
11 North Texas 40.6% 45.8% 5.3% $10,181,052
 
12 Virginia 12.6% 17.3% 4.7% $64,006,589
 
13 Troy 55.1% 59.6% 4.5% $14,241,169
 
14 Wyoming 49.6% 53.9% 4.3% $24,398,934
 
15 Auburn 1.7% 5.8% 4.1% $88,770,900
 
16 New Mexico 29.4% 33.4% 4.0% $35,762,043
 
17 Alabama 4.1% 7.6% 3.5% $123,020,219
 
18 Louisville 11.4% 14.9% 3.5% $56,198,451
 
19 Fresno State 20.1% 23.4% 3.3% $27,363,826
 
20 Georgia Tech 5.9% 8.9% 3.0% $54,181,812
 
21 Maryland 16.1% 19.0% 2.9% $59,262,982
 
22 Clemson 4.1% 6.7% 2.6% $58,822,220
 
23 Tennessee 10.6% 13.2% 2.6% $101,189,599
 
24 Louisiana-Monroe 43.8% 46.3% 2.5% $8,975,901
 
25 Utah 23.5% 25.9% 2.4% $27,280,904
 
26 Texas A&M 1.3% 3.5% 2.2% $91,916,056
 
27 North Carolina 10.1% 12.2% 2.1% $65,747,554
 
28 Utah State 56.0% 57.9% 1.9% $13,415,148
 
29 Houston 54.9% 56.6% 1.7% $30,800,766
 
30 Oregon State 17.6% 19.3% 1.7% $52,555,095

Looks like the non-auto qualifying BCS schools are trying pretty hard…

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 10:09 AM PST reply actions  

chart from this link:
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/2010-01-13-ncaa-athletics-subsidies_N.htm

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 10:09 AM PST up reply actions  

Interesting…only 3 “really good schools” on that list (UVa, GaTech, and UNC). Colorado, and A&M – perhaps even Utah and Maryland- are the next step down.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Sucks for the WAC that they have to travel so far; those expenses must be adding up.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 11:51 AM PST up reply actions  

We should show this chart to the Athletic Department haters so they can see how good we have it at Cal.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Niners make a hire for special teams

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Jan 19, 2010 10:32 AM PST reply actions  

Nestor's tears are soooo yummy sometimes

check out “Ben Ball roundup”

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Jan 19, 2010 11:29 AM PST reply actions  

I refuse to acknowledge fUCLA and it’s sports blogs.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:39 AM PST up reply actions  

It is sports blogs? I thought it was a university.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 11:56 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re right bond man. Thank you so much for correcting my grammar.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:58 AM PST up reply actions  

You’re welcome! Sorry for being a pain in the ass.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 12:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Who’s sports blogs!!!

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 2:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Quoth Nestor:

I am going to try hard from hereon out to just stop using the word “Ben Ball” around the current edition of UCLA basketball team

Should someone tell him that “Ben Ball” is actually two words?

Snobby Chick - Senior Division

by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:02 PM PST up reply actions  

Is it a play on Benwa Balls? Edgy!

Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.

by zoonews on Jan 19, 2010 12:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Daily Cal on Governator's UC budget proposal

LINK

In the midst of a projected $20 billion state budget deficit, the University of California sits in a relatively strong position as the spring budgeting process gets under way. But that may change.

In his Jan. 6 State of the State address, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger announced a proposed $370 million restoration in funding for the university as part of a wider effort to reprioritize the state’s role in public higher education. A constitutional amendment guaranteeing 10 percent of the state budget in future years to higher education may be brought before voters as soon as next fall.

But meanwhile, drastic cuts are in store for state health services, welfare programs and the state corrections system. State legislators have vowed to fight the proposed cuts, and the political gridlock in Sacramento-which delayed the approval of last year’s budget-may prevail once again as the difficult decision of what state programs to fund and what to cut must be resolved in the coming months.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 19, 2010 11:31 AM PST reply actions  

More protests expected on campus this week

LINK

UC Berkeley student activists say that controversy and protest will continue over the UC administration’s handling of the university’s financial troubles.

Efforts on campus will start Tuesday, with a three-day takeover of Kroeber Hall. Activists have said the move is only the beginning of a semester-long effort devoted to opposing student fee increases, state budget cuts and an alleged privatization of the university.

The event will follow the form of demonstrations last semester that sought to stimulate discussion on topics ranging from the allocation of campus funds to statewide concerns about the future of public higher education.

“We can only expect bigger and greater things,” said Callie Maidhof, a student organizer and a UC Berkeley graduate student. “One of the best possible things is that it turn into a nationwide issue. People are paying attention to us to see what happens.”

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 19, 2010 11:33 AM PST reply actions  

People are paying attention to us to see what happens."

Umm, I’m sorry Callie but don’t expect bigger and greater things to come from your protests. Sure, protest all you want. I even agree with your issues. People tune in because they like drama and there are plenty of folks who like to watch California, King of the Blue, fail.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Fucking idiots. I hope they all die slowly and painfully.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Berkeley residents on Southside take aim at frat row

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Residents who live near the University of California, Berkeley campus are seeking to curb rowdy frat house behavior.

Paul Ghysels and the South of Campus Neighborhood Association plan to file a lawsuit against 35 UC Berkeley fraternities on Tuesday in Alameda County Superior Court.

Attorney Louis Garcia says the plaintiffs will ask for a temporary restraining order to immediately bar underage drinking, harassment, assaults and noise ordinance violations.

They also want the judge to order each fraternity to install a live-in adult supervisor.

Grahaeme Hesp, UC Berkeley director of fraternity and sorority life, says fraternity member behavior has seen “a marked and visible improvement” since he came to UC in 2006.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 19, 2010 11:34 AM PST reply actions  

live-in adult supervisor

Haha, yeah right.

Plus, aren’t nearly all college students legal adults?

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t legal adult, 18?

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, at 18 you can vote, serve your country, serve a life sentence, you just can’t have a beer legally.

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:21 PM PST up reply actions  

That court hearing must be riveting.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I need to rivet my eyelids open. Dewd is reading a 90 page judgment. Why can’t he just skip to the end?

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:24 PM PST up reply actions  

Maybe he’s the only judge in history who gets paid by the hour.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:33 PM PST up reply actions  

^^^^hahaha

Rec’d, for being me at any and every wedding.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 2:11 PM PST up reply actions  

thanks, but it was just a Princess Bride reference :)

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 2:13 PM PST up reply actions  

The two aren’t mutually exclusive. I would have been thrilled to have Peter Cook speak with a swollen tongue at my future wedding. Sadly, he passed away in the 90’s, so that will never be.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 2:31 PM PST up reply actions  

our wedding was under 15 mins — none of that religious or poetry crap. People were actually surprised it was over so quick, and one of my friends missed the ceremony entirely. Made it to the bar though!

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 2:46 PM PST up reply actions  

It was so short. I wanted it to last forever.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I was expecting your wedding to have the full 17 minute version of In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida for the entrance of the bride. That would have been one LOOOONG processional. Sadly, I was misinformed.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 2:50 PM PST up reply actions  

There will be other weddings in the world. Next one to get married has to do it!

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 2:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to miss one this summer… had to turn down being one of my friend’s groomsmen too :-(

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 3:05 PM PST up reply actions  

ah, so that’s what you decided. I’m sorry you had to make that decision, I know it was a tough one, but I’m glad you’ll have such an exciting summer!

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Not it!

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 2:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Does it count if it’s a second marriage?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 3:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey! This sounds like rock and/or roll!

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 3:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I married a couple of friends of mine once. I think I finished the ceremony in under 8 minutes.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 3:21 PM PST up reply actions  

btw

I’m available, in case anyone needs to get married.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

(to perform the ceremony, not to marry you)

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 3:22 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought the rule in California for laypeople – 1 wedding, 1 date, 1 ceremony?

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

But you can get a new license each time. I did that for some friends. It was quite nerve-wracking. I mean, what the hell are you supposed to say?

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it’s a one day deputization, although not sure about number of weddings or ceremonies.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 3:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s one day, one wedding. And it has to be at the location designated on the license.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh, clearly my wife took care of this part, not me.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 3:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I got ordained. I’m a Spiritual Humanist clergy member.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 3:28 PM PST up reply actions  

By the on-line church in Modesto, or someone else?

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

It was definitely online. I don’t know where they’re based…

Okay I looked it up, and they’re apparently in Pennsylvania. This is a description of their “beliefs”:

A religion based on the ability of human beings to solve the problems of society using logic and science.

Most people need a religion to help guide them through life’s challenges and difficult moral decisions. Recognizing how the power of religious rituals, methods, and communication can impact human behavior, Spiritual Humanism fuses traditional religious behaviors onto the foundation of scientific humanist inquiry.

While it is impossible to remove age old traditions from human culture, we can redirect them by redefining their underlying significance and meanings. Spiritual Humanism is natural, not supernatural. By using a method of scientific inquiry we can define the inspirational, singular spark inherent in all living creatures.

Which was reasonable enough for this agnostic to sign up for to do a wedding.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

In the olden days, young men used to get ordained by mail to avoid the draft.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Man, the early 80s were a crazy time to be alive!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, what with Ronald Reagan fighting that Vietnam War, and all.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m a bigger Ronald Dreagan fan.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Ahhh I’ve found a co-preacher of Dreaganomics?

That shit trickles down like waahhhh! *pops collar*

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

wimps, real men shoot themselves in the foot.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, you can become a minister from an on-line church in Modesto. When my friends asked me to do their wedding, I checked out the minister thing because it was free and didn’t require me to drive to Marin County to get the license to perform the ceremony. Apparently, people get their minister certificate from this church and make a side-business out of doing weddings. The church makes its profit by selling wedding kits, minister outfits, etc. The best part was the statement on the website that it was unnecessary to believe in any deity or higher power to become a minister in their church. I decided against it, because it just seemed too strange. Better to pay $25 to Marin County.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Here’s hoping Costs aren’t assessed against me

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Oooo, yeah, they were assessed against you. Sorry. But, you know.

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 2:37 PM PST up reply actions  

First, California Courts.

Then, the Court of CGB.

Now, Ohio Courts? Ai! When will it end??

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 2:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I can see Rishi now, taking a huge paycut to life the life he always wanted.

by yorzepol on Jan 19, 2010 11:44 AM PST up reply actions  

(sends in application)

carp: clean cut by day, Vince Vaughn in Old School by night.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:48 AM PST up reply actions  

Having control over obnoxious frat boys? I’m totally down!

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by Rishi on Jan 19, 2010 1:06 PM PST up reply actions  

More on the frat lawsuit

LINK

Paul Ghysels and the South of Campus Neighborhood Association say they will file suit on Tuesday in Alameda County Superior Court targeting 35 fraternities for alleged and persistent incidents like assaults, public urination and underage drinking, the Associated Press reports.

According to Ghysels’ attorney Louis Garcia, the suit will seek a temporary restraining order which aims at limiting the “offensive behaviors” of the fraternities’ members. The plaintiffs have also requested that a court-ordered adult supervisor be required to live in each frat house.

“You have these parties and all this harmful, offensive behavior, the noise, homes broken into, windows smashed and beer bottles thrown at our clients,” Garcia told UPI.com.

UC Berkeley director of fraternity life, Grahaeme Hesp, said that the behavior of fraternity members has visibly improved during his four year tenure at the school, and Berkeley City Councilman Kriss Worthington questioned the legality of targeting all fraternities for isolated incidents.

Worthington told the news source, “To just treat all fraternities as if they are equally good or equally bad seems like a dangerous concept.”

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 19, 2010 11:35 AM PST reply actions  

Dear citizens of Berkeley,

If you don’t like college life, you can get OUT.

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by oskisunbear on Jan 19, 2010 11:42 AM PST up reply actions  

I pick on fraternities just as much as the average bear, but come on.

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by Rishi on Jan 19, 2010 11:46 AM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely ridiculous for so many reasons… This won’t go anywhere once filed…

And what about all those sorority girls drinking and screaming and squating on people’s properties to pee?? Hmmm??? Sounds like you’ll need another 40 lawsuits to make this thing equal….

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 12:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Something called a TRO was denied this morning.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:19 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s a prequel to the movie TRON. Or a temporary restraining order, not sure.

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:20 PM PST up reply actions  

T2ON is coming out this year.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

That means the judge didn’t think there was an emergency situation and/or didn’t think the plaintiffs are likely to win the case.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Theres now ay that TRO was going to get granted. The urgency was not high enough for the unbelievably insane request in there (if I understand it correctly).

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Instead of “More on the frat lawsuit,” I think the title of this post should have been, “Moron frat lawsuit.”

by Ohio Bear on Jan 19, 2010 12:22 PM PST up reply actions  

This

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 12:48 PM PST up reply actions  

UC applications...smarter?

LINK

Even as UC charges students more money while offering fewer courses, the number of undergraduate applicants rose by 7,328 students over last year, a nearly 6 percent increase, with transfers making up two-thirds of the boost.

In all, a record 134,029 hopefuls have applied to UC: 100,320 for a freshman spot, and 33,709 asking to transfer in.

Despite student interest, California’s financial crisis could mean a smaller freshman class next fall than in the current year – which is already smaller than last year’s.

“It’s likely that we’ll again curtail enrollment for fall 2010, most likely at the freshman level,” said Susan Wilbur, UC’s director of undergraduate admissions, who released the new figures Thursday.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 19, 2010 11:37 AM PST reply actions  

scientists use my lymphocytes without asking.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 11:51 AM PST reply actions  

hahaha awww poor baby.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 1:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Pics or they were lymphoblasts and from a catfish.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 2:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Make the bad man stop. Please.


…they’ve made a MacGruber movie.

Words fail me.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 12:27 PM PST reply actions  

Am I uncool if I admit I have no idea what MacGruber is?

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

just learn to accept it.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:29 PM PST up reply actions  

how?

doesn’t he only have like 1 joke?

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 2:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Night at the Roxbury
Superstar
Stuart Saves His Family
It’s Pat: The Movie
The Ladies’ Man

That’s how.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 2:09 PM PST up reply actions  

oh no. for the love of God…

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

…Montresor?

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by BearStage on Jan 21, 2010 1:40 AM PST up reply actions  

The Lonely Island guys know how to make a joke play for 90 minutes.

That, and a fat Val Kilmer.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 2:22 PM PST up reply actions  

except the LI guys’ stuff STARTS brilliantly. MacGruber is pretty stupid from the get-go.

I’m on a Boat. Jizz in My Pants.

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions  

you lie, it’s awesome!!

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 2:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Dick In A Box. Lazy Sunday.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

was D in a Box actually Lonely Island? Didn’t it pre-date the official formation?

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 4:02 PM PST up reply actions  

So, you’ll write “Jizz” but not “Dick”?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions  

She’ll also say “bullet” but not “gun”.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

i thought long and hard about writing jizz. good angel lost. bad devil won.

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

You also just wrote “long and hard” and “jizz” in the same sentence. Bad devil wins again.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Sounds like good devil to me!

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad Devil is heating up!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

;)

and i didn’t even have to use the Bold function.

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

The group was founded in 2001. They had been working on SNL for several years before Dick in a Box. They’ve done most of the “SNL Digital Shorts”, and the first one to gain a lot of popularity (and really launch YouTube into the mainstream) was Lazy Sunday.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

how did you get that in ahead of me? you bastard!

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

ha!

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

The group was formed and existed before Samberg was ever on SNL. When the other 2 came on as writers, I don’t know.

It’s possible Samberg wrote Lazy Sunday by himself, but I’m inclined to believe otherwise.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Anyone ever watch “The ’Bu”? That was mildly entertaining.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 4:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I especially liked when Sarah Chalke was replaced by a puppet. Good stuff.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Lazy Sunday was written by all three Lonely Island members and Chris Parnell. It was directed by a Lonely Island guy.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Lonely Island was started earlier today. Don’t let anybody tell you otherwise.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Laser Cats? No?

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 3:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, Space Olympics FTL. I have no idea what the hell they were thinking.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 3:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Awww man! I love Space Olympics!

So ridiculously random and to include Michael Phelps just looking sad. Good stuff.

He can explode a cat with his hands!

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not saying I didn’t laugh. But the ratio of laughter to stunned confusion was low.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t like it the first time either. So I get that it doesn’t have the same mass appeal that, say, Dick in a Box does.

It took a little while of the concept settling, and a few rewatchings, to fully appreciate the insanity.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

The one this Saturday was good, but mostly because of the guest actors.

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by CALumbus Bear on Jan 19, 2010 3:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Like A Boss.

W.T.F.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 3:36 PM PST up reply actions  

What I like about the LI guys the most is that they are Berkeley, born and raised!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Samberg went to UCSC!!!! FTW!!!! (though he Tiger Woods’ his way out of a diploma)

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 4:11 PM PST up reply actions  

What happened with your Friday night date?

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by Rishi on Jan 19, 2010 3:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you crashed the happy hour??

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 3:41 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not actually a douchebag — I just play one on CGB.

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by Rishi on Jan 19, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

god, that word is so played

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 3:56 PM PST up reply actions  

whatever, douchemonger.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 3:57 PM PST up reply actions  

so played.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 3:58 PM PST up reply actions  

oh. i actually decided against it. i figured that if i had to try that hard then it really wasn’t worth it. plus the folks that ended up rsvp’ing made it awkward to invite another dude… know what i mean?

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

…you else have history with one of the other guys who was going to be there?

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

…………..all your friends are militant feminists?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 4:12 PM PST up reply actions  

i wonder what it would be like to play word association with you.

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 4:17 PM PST up reply actions  

……………….and go!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

i know im going to regret this

first word/short phrase that pops into your head. i’m now totally curious to see how weird you really are.
 
bar:
ball:
card:
heart:
purple:
dinosaur:

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you associate your way to all those words? bar—→ball—→card, etc?

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 4:59 PM PST up reply actions  

i did actually. i unfortunately left my random word generator at home.

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 5:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Is this a closed game?

crawl
bearing
trick
murmur
people eater
extinct

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 5:01 PM PST up reply actions  

for me, it’s the secondary associations which are more disturbing…

bar—→exam——>rectal
ball—→sack——>santa claus
card—→carry—→cash
heart—→bleeding—→stop
purple—→prose——>prolific
dinosaur—→bones—→nails

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

bones, nails? que?

purple, prose? como?

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 6:17 PM PST up reply actions  

oh

finger/toe nails. not like hammer and nails.

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

tender
foot
game
ace
people eaters
awesome

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

oh im an idiot. i was like helloooo we’re on a sports website and for Ball you go with Foot? (as in ball of your foot). Oh I’m such a fail.

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 5:33 PM PST up reply actions  

you’re not… going anywhere, are you MadBum? We need to keep you around a while longer…

…no reason. none at all.

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by BearStage on Jan 20, 2010 12:55 AM PST up reply actions  

lawyer – the image of a giant airplane hanger of a room popped up which is where I took the bar in San Mateo
base – the red seams of a baseball popped up
Pujols – Cardinals baseball player
Catholic – The image of Jesus with the heart popped up, which is, I believe, a Catholic image
fashion – It’s a great color
Barney – I guess with purple still ringing in my head, you can guess who’d emerge

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

well you didn’t exactly follow the rules. you went to the next thing that popped into your head after the first thing that popped into your head. so complicated sir.

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 5:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I dont understand. I went with the first thing that came into my head. Im trying to explain to you what popped into ym head. For example, when I read Card, the first thing that popped into my head was Albert Pujols. When I read ball, the red seams of a baseball popped up, so I went with baseball. When I read bar, taking the bar exam, being a lawyer, popped into my head.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess what Im trying to say is that I dont think in words, I think in images and then I tried to boil the images down to a word to correlate it with. Hope that was OK, Since1997

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, you talk to yourself.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 10:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, independent of age, you really are a Snobby Chick!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

crawl
base
stunt
warming
people-eater
barney (probably because of the purple)

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

so twist is not as weird as i thought. still weird just not off the chart vh1 reality tv weird (or a&e hoarders weird). semi morbid (jesus. really?)

andbears, you seem the MOST sane of everone. that’s because you’re a girl and i like you. :)

and what’s with the purple people eater everyone? i mean… what is that?

by since1997 on Jan 19, 2010 5:30 PM PST up reply actions  

There must be a lack of things associated with purple. Plus, it amuses me. :)

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 5:40 PM PST up reply actions  

And what’s with all the Barney references???

…good lord, you people actually watched Barney as children, didn’t you? You poor lost souls…

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by BearStage on Jan 20, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions  

Purple was followed directly by dinosaur on her list, that’s why.

by atomsareenough on Jan 20, 2010 6:52 AM PST up reply actions  

you’re asking what exactly is the purple people eater? do you know the song?

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 5:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Ya, how come I had the fashion reference there of all the people??

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 6:53 PM PST up reply actions  

bar —> bell
ball —> blue
card —> ace
heart —> attack
purple —> minnetonka
dinosaur —> oil

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Wow, you are the most fucked up person ever.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s because he puts dinosaur oil in his bath water.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Isn’t dinosaur oil just oil?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

It keeps my pelt shiny and smooth.

by DC Trojan on Jan 20, 2010 7:54 AM PST up reply actions  

bar – exam
ball – park
card – trick
heart – attack
purple – people eater
dinosaur – bone

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

bar → drunk
ball → football
card → gamble
heart → love
purple → gay
dinosaur → fucking raptors

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 11:54 PM PST up reply actions  

lols – dinosaur → fucking raptors

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by AndBears on Jan 20, 2010 8:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Remind me to introduce you to Ray Lewis, so you can explain to him your views on the color purple.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 20, 2010 8:59 AM PST up reply actions  

I'll play

bar: cheers
ball : football
card : jack
heart : purple
purple : people eaters
dinosaur : stegosaurus

by Ohio Bear on Jan 20, 2010 5:24 AM PST up reply actions  

That’s not funny.

by sec119 on Jan 19, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you slyly text the guy during happy hour anyway?

7

by Rishi on Jan 20, 2010 6:20 AM PST up reply actions  

Maybe she overtly texted the guy?

“I’M TEXTING ANOTHER GUY RIGHT NOW, PEOPLE! I AM TYPING ON MY SMART PHONE KEYPAD AS WE SPEAK”

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by TwistNHook on Jan 20, 2010 9:00 AM PST up reply actions  

The sad thing is that MacGruber’s not even in my top 5 of ‘most annoying currently recurring characters on SNL’ and I still know this movie will suck.

At least there’s not a Gilly movie (yet)

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by norcalnick on Jan 19, 2010 6:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Thank you. I thought I was taking crazy pills. How does Kristen Wiig keep getting lines?!? It’s almost always the SAME CHARACTER.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Gilly needs to be shot in the head.

Kristen Wiig’s character who works in Target can be funny sometimes.

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by BearStage on Jan 20, 2010 12:59 AM PST up reply actions  

Parts of that trailer made me laugh, unfortunately those were probably all the best jokes in the movie. I like the MacGruber movie for a couple reasons: Lonely Island directed (give them more money!), fat Val Kilmer. Also, doesn’t the MacGruber sketch always end with him cutting the wrong wire on a bomb and killing everyone. It would be pretty ridiculous if that was how the movie ended. A big death-filled explosion is a fine way to end a 30 second sketch, but to end a 90 minute movie that way…

by paleodan on Jan 21, 2010 1:06 AM PST up reply actions  

Parts of that trailer made me laugh, unfortunately those were probably all the best jokes in the movie.

Yep, that sums it up for me too. Entertaining trailer, but I dunno about spending hard-earned dough on it.

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by BearStage on Jan 21, 2010 1:40 AM PST up reply actions  

Such a great topic today....

On a related note, I’m taking Baby SS33 to her first cal game (since she was born) this Saturday vs. OSU. She “attended” 2008 big game and 2009 cal v. stanford hoops last year while in Momma sweet’s belly. Anyone have a guess on what the over/under should be for length of stay at the game? I think she’s gonna make it for the whole thing. She lasted 3 innings at an A’s game when she was 3 months old. She just completed the Oakland to Long Beach airplane ride for the first time without problems. She is 8 months old. Regardless, it should be an experience.

by 33SwisherSweet on Jan 19, 2010 12:35 PM PST reply actions  

Depends on how the game plays out… If OSU plays Cal like they did last year, it may be Daddy 33SS that forces the early exit…

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 12:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I remember taking my daughter to her first soccer match in England when we visited several years ago. Oxford United at Rushden & Diamonds in beautiful Irthlingborough. About 15 minutes into the match, she pulled on my sleeve and said “Daddy, what’s a wanker?”

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Hahahahahahahahaha.

My grandfather used to take my mother to Glasgow Rangers games back in the 40s and 50s (because he was determined to indoctrinate his child, girl or not), so you can imagine his excitement at being able to take me to my first game (I think I was about 4, maybe just 5) even though it was the local team Wrexham United. At least, unlike the humorless bastards around us, he thought it was funny when I asked when we were all going to start throwing bottles.

Incidentally, my grandfather’s proto-feminism when it came to soccer meant that my mother was at the Real Madrid – Eintracht Frankfurt European Cup Final in 1960… generally regarded as one of the best club games ever played, and meaning that she saw Puskas play… sigh.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 1:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Where haven’t you lived? Stevenage, Holland, North Wales…I’ve heard Wrexham is a dump though.

That trip we went on I let the wife decide what we were going to do so long as we did it based on where Oxford was playing. So we started in Oxford, went to Bedfordshire, then to Snowdonia (we had a week gap between matches), then London. Good times.

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 1:28 PM PST up reply actions  

Aside from this one soccer match, I don’t remember Wrexham at all – it was the nearest town to the village we lived at the time, called Llay. Actually, about all I remember from there is the farm across the road, the Chinese carry-out, and the primary school I went to for a few months before we moved to Holland.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 1:32 PM PST up reply actions  

What did you think of Snowdonia? Based on “stories” in the UK car magazine Evo, it looks like large swathes of Wales are both incredibly scenic and empty of traffic. Which is a compelling combination.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 1:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Absolutely stunning. We actually stayed in Llanrhaeadr-ym-Mochnant in Powys but drove throguh Snowdonia and did the castles in Harlech and Caernarvon on a very misty day. Just awesome and well worth a couple of days.

This waterfall was about 2 miles from our B&B

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 1:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll keep an eye out for you and your daughter this Saturday.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 1:45 PM PST up reply actions  

PEDOPHILE

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:51 PM PST up reply actions  

What did you say?

Am I known as Cugel the Clever for nothing?

by Cugel on Jan 19, 2010 12:54 PM PST reply actions  

I said “Cool Story, Hansel” and he said “Thanks Olaf”.

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 19, 2010 12:55 PM PST up reply actions  

He said “Reply fail!”

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 1:03 PM PST up reply actions  

THUNDER!!

Us native Bay Area folk are easily excited.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 3:18 PM PST reply actions  

RagsPuppy is scared of the thunder, but the neighbor kids (and maybe me) are excited about the hail.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 3:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Awwww…. RagsPuppy scared!

I would say videoconference so I can see him again, but it means nothing to him and he’s scared of it too.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Just imagine him hiding behind me on the couch.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

That was insanely loud and awesome!

Hearing the kiddies playfully scream from the elementary school across the street is hilarious and precious.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 3:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Storm caused tornado, water spouts, 80-mph winds, National Weather Service says

LA TIMES

Sheriff’s deputies were responding to reports that a tornado or waterspout had touched down near Anderson Street and Pacific Coast Highway, lifting several catamarans 30 feet to 50 feet in the air, according to Orange County Sheriff’s Department spokesman Jim Amormino.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 3:32 PM PST reply actions  

DAMN

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 3:35 PM PST up reply actions  

IT’S HAILING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 3:41 PM PST reply actions  

On all frequencies?

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 3:53 PM PST up reply actions  

It's not even raining anymore:)

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

This is why I live in California!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 4:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought you were moving to Forks?

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Go Sacramento!

actually no. Sacramento sucks

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Sacramento rules!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 4:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm missing this good Sacramento part

All I’ve seen is the boring part

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:43 PM PST up reply actions  

CalBear81 and Norcalnick, of course.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 4:44 PM PST up reply actions  

and MadBum, of course(:

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:45 PM PST up reply actions  

Of course!

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by CalBear81 on Jan 19, 2010 4:46 PM PST up reply actions  

You guys live together? Somebody tell AEE07!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s ok we have an open relationship.

Norcalnick's chick. Go Bears!

by aee07 on Jan 19, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Am I going to have to write a DBD about how awesome Sacramento is?

…What’s the word minimum on fanposts again?

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by norcalnick on Jan 19, 2010 6:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Not hailing over here, but I haven’t seen it rain this hard in… geez, years, I guess. Wow.

I’m off to go cross the Richmond Bridge. Wish me luck.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 3:50 PM PST reply actions  

Good luck, I want you to know we’re all counting on you.

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks. And stop calling me Shirley.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

but… I didn’t?

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

i was just continuing the Airplane jokes :(

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:07 PM PST up reply actions  

context, man. context! :)

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 4:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s an entirely different kind of flying. Altogether.

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s an entirely different kind of flying. Altogether.

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 4:14 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s an entirely different kind of flying. Altogether.

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Do you have a commenting problem?

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 4:20 PM PST up reply actions  

My squadron ships out tomorrow. We’re bombing the storage depots at Daiquiri at 1800 hours. We’re coming in from the north, below their radar.

When will you be back?

I can’t tell you that. Classified.

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 4:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Oops

I’m gchatting with my girlfriend right now, and running through the dbd’s comments over the last few hours. I accidentally z’ed her.

by chowder on Jan 19, 2010 3:56 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

I accidentally z’ed her.

HIYO!

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:01 PM PST up reply actions  

You should really have discussed that with her first. No one likes to be z’ed by surprise.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 4:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Some people might be into that.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 4:06 PM PST up reply actions  

I like to “accidentally” Z just to see what she says… If the response is positive, game on!

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 4:13 PM PST up reply actions  

Is that like bullriding her?

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by Fire Starkey on Jan 20, 2010 6:22 AM PST up reply actions  

Haha, this is making its way around the internets:

A letter from Satan to Pat Robertson:

Dear Pat Robertson,

I know that you know that all press is good press, so I appreciate the shout-out. And you make God look like a big mean bully who kicks people when they are down, so I’m all over that action. But when you say that Haiti has made a pact with me, it is totally humiliating. I may be evil incarnate, but I’m no welcher.

The way you put it, making a deal with me leaves folks desperate and impoverished. Sure, in the afterlife, but when I strike bargains with people, they first get something here on earth –– glamor, beauty, talent, wealth, fame, glory, a golden fiddle. Those Haitians have nothing, and I mean nothing. And that was before the earthquake.

Haven’t you seen “Crossroads”? Or “Damn Yankees”? If I had a thing going with Haiti, there’d be lots of banks, skyscrapers, SUVs, exclusive night clubs, Botox –– that kind of thing. An 80 percent poverty rate is so not my style. Nothing against it –– I’m just saying: Not how I roll.

You’re doing great work, Pat, and I don’t want to clip your wings –– just, come on, you’re making me look bad. And not the good kind of bad.

Keep blaming God. That’s working. But leave me out of it, please. Or we may need to renegotiate your own contract.

Best, Satan

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 4:03 PM PST reply actions  

OH. ZHANG.

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by BearStage on Jan 19, 2010 4:09 PM PST up reply actions  

I read this earlier

I lol’d

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I spent all day banging my head against a wall

because the Giants just signed Bengie Molina. Quick summary of what has happened in 500+ comments?

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:26 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah, I think this is a bad decision simply because there is now tons of bad blood between Molina and the organization. And Molina held a grudge when he was batting fourth in the lineup, so who knows if he will be willing to backup Posey.

by Tedfordisgod on Jan 19, 2010 4:28 PM PST up reply actions  

It's fucking bullshit

The guy was one of the 10 worst hitters in the bigs last year. Brian Sabean is a complete idiot. As long as he’s a GM, we’ll never make the playoffs.

As for the bad blood, I think that’s passed. He took less money to stay in SF.

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Just saw the money – 4.5 million! That is crazy to me.

by Tedfordisgod on Jan 19, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

It's nuts

I don’t understand it all

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Now they just need to sign Benito back…

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

I learned more about paying taxes for independent contractors than I hope to ever need to know.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

/cries softly

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I have to sit through Ned Colletti and an offseason-long episode of As the McCourts Turn, so honestly, I don’t feel that much better off than you.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 4:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Heh

your GM has a brain. Consider yourself lucky. Also, Fuck the Dodgers:)

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I dunno

He learned from yours, so I don’t have that much faith in him. I figure he probably makes about 3 good moves for every 2 bad moves though, so on balance it’s not so bad.

It’s a pity that you have such animosity for all things righteous and good. Why must you hate truth, justice, and the American Way so much? Because that’s what the Dodgers represent, my friend. Join us, you misguided soul! :)

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

No, you got it all wrong

the Dodgers are most evil entity in the world. Everything evil in this world comes from LA, and to a smaller extent, the Dodgers. The Giants represent justice, and freedom for all (even the gays!).

Colletti>Sabean. Even though he did sign Pierre and Andruw Jones…(:

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 4:56 PM PST up reply actions  

“The Giants represent justice, and freedom for all (even the gays!)”

Lies!!!!!! If they represent freedom so well, why no $2 wednesdays?

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, I love SF and would take it in a heartbeat over LA any day (not that I think that the two cities are really worth comparing in the first place), but I think it’s tragic that such a fine city would be represented by such an insipid, worthless baseball team such as the Giants. Such grandiose pretensions, and yet such a sorry franchise.

SF represents freedom, but the Giants represent futility.

The Dodgers are a shining beacon for the unmoored denizens of LA.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

LIES

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 5:18 PM PST up reply actions  

So you’re saying that SF < LA? That’s interesting.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 9:42 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m afraid to go over to McCovey Chronicles. Has the site collapsed from the weight of Giants’ fans despair yet?

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by norcalnick on Jan 19, 2010 6:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, the Giants have made bunch of signings that have increased payroll without any real statistical backing that guys like DeRosa, Huff and now Molina will make the team any more likely to win a single additional game this year. Despair is the right reaction.

by Tedfordisgod on Jan 19, 2010 6:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. I’m totally despairing right now.

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by norcalnick on Jan 19, 2010 7:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Cool iPhone + Facebook thing

Apparently you can sync your iPhone contacts with Facebook such that it will automatically update your iPhone contacts list to show people’s Facebook profile pic (if they have an account at least)!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 4:27 PM PST reply actions  

What’s wrong with you!?!?!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 4:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You’re discouraging discussion about facebook pictures? Isn’t that your raison d’être?

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by norcalnick on Jan 19, 2010 6:12 PM PST up reply actions  

No, I’m referencing royrules earlier comment in a mocking tone.

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by TwistNHook on Jan 19, 2010 6:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Has anybody seen the movie Sugar?

Watched it the other night. Very interesting film.

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 5:00 PM PST reply actions  

Was it on TV?

Cuz I can’t combine those two or else I get ADD

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by CruzinBears on Jan 19, 2010 5:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Nah

Red Box

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

I have…I thought it was a great film. Did you see the extras when all the MLBers from the Dominican were talking about how they could relate to the story? Very neat.

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I did not see the extras (24 was on(:)

but it was great. I can imagine it being very similar

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by MadBum on Jan 19, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Class started today. It was not fun.

by boomtho on Jan 19, 2010 6:23 PM PST reply actions  

No. It was not.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 19, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I think it's funny

the only state with universal health care preventing the rest of the country from getting it.

And by funny, I mean fucking shitty.

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by CBKWit on Jan 19, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

This. But unfortunately I can’t think of anything witty in response that will make it better.

The Dem up for the seat was a terrible candidate and why the hell is it so difficult for Dems to get anything done while during 8 years of Bush, with a smaller majority, he seemed able to systematically tear apart the working parts of government and throw money into the vacuum-like-part of government that is least responsible to the american voter. Oh, maybe its because he amassed massive amounts of executive power and this Prez is actually doing it in good faith.

I bummed myself out.

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

stopping progress is much easier than making it.

and to many dems in congress are trolls.

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by Rocksanddirt on Jan 19, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

“Who’s that tramping over my bridge?!?”

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

They should’ve nominated Capuano, but that doesn’t excuse Coakley and the Dems for not campaigning or for acting like they had it in the bag. So stupid, when so much is at stake. And now, of course, all the spineless weenie blue dogs are going to try and kill the bill, which they already voted for. It’s fucking embarrassing to be a Democrat. What a bunch of weak-kneed, useless chumps.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions  

“I belong to no organized party. I am a Democrat.” – Will Rogers

by LeonPowe on Jan 19, 2010 9:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Eh. The bill had been watered down so much that I had already pretty much given up on meaningful reform. The results in Massachusetts reduced my hope index from at 2.5 to a 1.

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by norcalnick on Jan 19, 2010 8:54 PM PST up reply actions  

To quote Jon Stewart, “The Republicans are playing chess and the Democrats are in the nurse’s office because, once again, they glued their balls to their thighs.”

What really bugs me are the claims that this is the people of Massachusetts fed up with the Democrats or some indicator of national sentiment. Previous Democratic voters weren’t switching sides. It was all advertising and marketing.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

It was all advertising and marketing.

This is what really bugs me – that it really does come down to a better run campaign. It’s like sports – I’m glad when my team wins and I’m utterly baffled when my team loses, mainly because I have no power over it what-so-ever. But, unlike many sports programs, as much as I bitch, I will never be able to change ones in control (be it the coaches or the campaign managers).

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by AndBears on Jan 19, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I really agree with your analogy, but I think it’s also enlightening to explore where the analogy breaks down. Coaches are supposed to be leaders, while advertisers/marketers are not the ones that are actually holding the senate seat. The best way to keep a coaching position is to win. The best way to keep a senate seat is to pander to the lowest common denominator.

Public service is supposed to be just that—public service. To those involved: Stop being so concerned about what will keep you there, and start trying to do what is right for the public.

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I wonder if Pelosi and Reid will be working over time to find some hurried-up healthcare reform to pass before this republican comes on in.

And it’s a little scary!

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by carp on Jan 19, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

I thought that I had read that it’s possible to jam the Senate version through the house and / or a reconciliation bill before Brown takes office. Of course that would require that someone on the Hill demonstrate some initiative.

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 9:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, that’s the only way anything is going to happen. No way anything gets through the Senate now. I can’t believe that the Republicans are winning on such a retardedly obstructionist strategy. Our country can be really fucking stupid sometimes.

by atomsareenough on Jan 19, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions  

I can understand people who have a principled objection to this on the grounds of restricting the scope of government, but I don’t agree with them. The people I’m less impressed by are the ones who are fighting health insurance reform for fear that they’ll get diminished service… if something isn’t done to pool risk and reduce cost, how much longer do they think this will work without bankrupting us individually?

by DC Trojan on Jan 19, 2010 10:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually I’d like to thank Massachusetts for making Joe Liberman irrelevant once again :)

by turkey on Jan 19, 2010 8:37 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm going to wait

to see what the final outcome is before I blame Masachewsets (can’t be bothered to spell it correctly) voters for ruining healthcare reform. That said, if we can’t get it done after being THIS close, I’m going to be pissed. Yet another reason to have no faith in the general populace…

I've been Honked...

by giantfan5 on Jan 19, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

http://www.indecisionforever.com/2010/01/19/jon-stewart-on-the-massachusetts-senate-election/

An amazingly awful election campaign can do that, lol. One thing you do not do in Massachusetts is claim that Curt Schilling is a “Yankees Fan.”

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by Swamphunter on Jan 19, 2010 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

“Coakley had 19 events after the primary through Sunday; Scott Brown had 66.” -Marc Ambinder, The Atlantic

It's seriously too bad that there's no building or complex around that might have a large supply of sports drinks.

by thenick on Jan 19, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Son of a fucking bitch. One of the worst fucking campaigns ever. Where the fuck did the Dems’ balls go?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 19, 2010 11:57 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s easy to win when you’re willing to play dirty…

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by BearStage on Jan 20, 2010 1:11 AM PST up reply actions  

As a lifelong Dem, I say “When did the Dems ever have balls?”

by LeonPowe on Jan 20, 2010 1:27 AM PST up reply actions  

FDR. It’s been 65 years since we had a competent democrat

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 20, 2010 9:02 AM PST up reply actions  

Truman?

I’d say LBJ was pretty ballsy too, and he did pass civil rights and mmigration reform and the Great Society programs… on the other hand, he also escalated in Vietnam.

by atomsareenough on Jan 20, 2010 9:33 AM PST up reply actions  

Eh Truman. I’m not sure how much of that is him versus FDR’s advisers. LBJ rode on the JFK sympathy train, but I do like him quite a bit.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 20, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

We’ve had lots of competent democrats. Just very little organization. The repubs tend not to turn on themselves. Dems do.

by LeonPowe on Jan 21, 2010 3:52 AM PST up reply actions  

THIS.

Simply amazing to me the Democrats constantly eat away at themselves from the inside out. I mean, remember the Hillary/Obama crap?? That did NOT bode well.

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Jan 21, 2010 12:03 PM PST up reply actions  

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