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Cal Hoops Open Thread: Men at Wazzu, Women vs Washington

California Golden Bears at Washington St. Cougars, Jan 14, 2010 7:00 PM PST


Men
Time: 7 PM, TV: NONE, Audio: KFRC 1550 AM
Injury update: Jorge (out), Sanders-Frison (doubtful, back spasms)
Opponent Blog: Coug Center


There'll be a few times when men's and women's gavme overlap this year, so for simplicity's sake we'll combine them together. Curiously the women's game is on TV while the men's one is...not. Nice job with these fabulous TV contracts Tom Hansen. Hope someone spiked your umbrella drink on your Euro cruise with Pepto Bismol.

Let's start with the men stats, courtesy of Pomeroy. Advantages bolded.

Team breakdown

Team Offensive efficiency Defensive eff Tempo eFG% TO% Off Reb % FTA/FGA
Cal 119.6 (4) 93.2 (62) 70.9 (64) 52.8 (53) 17.5 (29) 36.1 (69) 31.7 (286)
Wazzu 108.9 (64) 101.3 (186) 68.4 (177) 53.0 (48) 20.7 (152) 38.1 (36) 50.6 (10)

 

Individual Cougars

Alpha dog: Klay Thompson--86.3% of minutes, 30.9% of possessions, 34.6% of shots, 53.1 eFG%, 58.7 true shooting %, 6.2 fouls drawn per 40 minutes, 46.3 FT rate, 114.1 offensive rating.
Who draws the defensive assignment? Patrick Christopher, maybe plenty of Theo and some Nikola too.

Second banana: Reggie Moore--115.8 offensive rating, 51.7 eFG%, 60.5 true shooting %, 27.4 assist rate, 2.9 steal %, 6.1 fouls drawn per 40 minutes, 88.4 FT rate, 76% of minutes.
Who draws the defensive assignment? Jerome Randle

Top defender: DeAngelo Casto--24.4% of possessions, 14.6 off. rebound %, 19.2 def. rebound %, 9.1 block %, 5.1 fouls drawn per 40 minutes, 54.5 FT rate
Offensive assignment: Jamal Boykin, maybe Max Zhang? If one of them can have a big game down low the Bears could be in business.

Role players: Nikola Koprivica (121.8 offensive rating, 48.6% 3 point shooter) & Marcus Capers (113.3 offensive rating, 53.4 eFG%, 3.0 block %, 68.5 FT rate)

What this'll probably come down to: How well Cal can attack the basket and subsequently get to the line. The Bears have relied a lot on their outside shots to carry them to their victories, but considering how the Cougars attack the basket and get to the line, it'll be paramount for Cal to not fall too much in love with their jumpers, since a cold shooting streak could sink them in a close ball game. Replicate the USC strategy and they have a great shot at pulling this one out.

After the jump, norcalnick covers the women's hoops game.

Star-divide

Women vs Washington Huskies

Time: 7:00 PM PST
TV: CSN+
Radio: Link for Cal audio: http://secure.stretchinternet.com/live.php?user=cal&id=66808 or KALX 90.7
Streams:  Probably none, but check the comments for potential streams.

Cal (6-8, 0-3 Pac-10) finally comes home to Haas after more than a month on the road – although they never left the state of California.  They face a resurgent Washington team enjoying a three game winning streak in Pac-10 play.  Washington is led by Sami Whitcomb, who leads the Huskies in every major statistical category except blocks and field goal percentage.   She does have the tendency to turn the ball over and doesn’t shoot a high percentage, so hopefully the Bears can frustrate her defensively.

 

Washington’s best win is probably at home against ASU.  Hopefully Cal is in fact the best team Washington has faced to date and the Bears earn a much needed home win.  And if Cal loses?  Well, at least Washington State (at 5-10, 0-4 in the Pac-10) is up next…

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In other action, Oregon getting throttled at home

ASU starting to emerge as a huge sleeper to win the Pac-10. Their defense is really good and could cause our shooters lots of problems, especially in Tempe in two weeks. 35-16 Devils.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 6:16 PM PST reply actions  

Is the Shipp family going to pump out 10 brothers to play for 10 Pac-10 programs?

by LeonPowe on Jan 14, 2010 6:23 PM PST up reply actions  

there’s always been the three: Joe (Cal), Josh (UCLA) and Jerren (ASU). Jerren is a senior and doesn’t play very much. Question: Who’s better? Josh or Joe? What do they say about it?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 6:26 PM PST up reply actions  

What about Reginald Von Shipp? Who has a soft verbal with OSU?

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by TwistNHook on Jan 14, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions  

Who's better?

Josh or Joe. The answer is Joe better shooter and better scorer.

by Rocky63215 on Jan 14, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Well I wish Josh would burn in hell, so I am going with Joe by default.

All aboard the Jerome Randle Smart Car!

by rollonubears on Jan 14, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Indeed, if only for that ridiculous over-the-backboard circus shot that beat us two years ago.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

if only for that ridiculous over-the-backboard circus shot that beat us the refs used as an excuse to steal the game from us two years ago.

Fixed for accuracy. I am not bitter. At all.

All aboard the Jerome Randle Smart Car!

by rollonubears on Jan 14, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Also here's further proof why Joe was better

2001-2002: 14.8 points per game, 4.7 rebounds per game on 48.6 percent shooting, 35.2 percent from beyond the arc, and 78.3 percent from the line.

2002-2003: 20.4 points per game, 6.1 rebounds per game, on 51.8 percent shooting, 35.4 percent from three, and 75.9 percent from the free throw line.

Josh Shipp’s two best seasons looked like this:

2006-2007: 13.3 points per game, 3.9 rebounds per game on 46.9 percent shooting, 31.6 percent from three, and 78.2 percent from the free throw line.

2008-2009: 14.5 points per game, 3.1 rebounds per game, on 50.9 percent shooting, 43.3 percent from beyond the arc, and 80.2 percent from the line.

While looking at Joe he was a player who could shoot, but also use his strength in the block to post up. Josh was primarily used on the perimeter as the third or fourth option with UCLA while Joe was used more often as option one or two.

by Rocky63215 on Jan 14, 2010 9:28 PM PST up reply actions  

This would be a cool fanpost. One, finally, that wouldn’t lead to everybody mocking the shit out of you!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 14, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Great job!

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by TwistNHook on Jan 15, 2010 9:13 AM PST up reply actions  

Jesus, 44-22

Shooting lights out from three-ball.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 6:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Note: There is a stream on the WSU Cougars site

But you have to pay for it.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 6:32 PM PST reply actions  

Wait, FAIL, it's only an audio link.

Looks like we’re confined to radio.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 6:33 PM PST up reply actions  

They have this Providence-DePaul uglyfest on ESPN2, but Wazzu-Cal can’t even get on TV?!

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 6:46 PM PST reply actions  

Big East

It’s amazing, no?

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 14, 2010 6:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Monty interview

All 5 seniors healthy tonight so he’s putting this game on their shoulders, mentally. They have to deal with the crowed, the bad call, the whatever, and maintain the bear ship steady.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 6:59 PM PST reply actions  

Monty interviewed on the radio

Says the Cougs have better depth, Bears will have to rely on their seniors.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:00 PM PST reply actions  

Since I'm gonna be bored..

Cal 12-6
ASU 11-7
UW 10-8
UCLA 9-9
USC 9-9
ORE 9-9
WAZZU 9-9
ZONA 9-9
furd 7-11
OSU 5-13

A huge clusterfuck because…. IDK

Post yours.

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:03 PM PST reply actions  

MSF OUT???

God…

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:04 PM PST reply actions  

i didn’t hear why…?

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

Back spasms. Amoke gets the start. Boykin moves to the 5.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Small and sleek.

Like rollonubears

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Casto’s a horse. Was impressed with him as a rookie last year. Haven’t seen any of his games this year.

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:08 PM PST reply actions  

Boykin with the first two baskets, 4-0 Cal.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:09 PM PST reply actions  

why does boykin always score our first points?

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 7:09 PM PST reply actions  

because he’s good at basketball

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Randle wins exchange.

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:11 PM PST up reply actions  

If this were the Tony Bennett team, we may have already had enough points for the win!

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Great Beginning

We couldn’t ask for anything better with a 10-3 lead.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 14, 2010 7:11 PM PST reply actions  

PC with a 3!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:13 PM PST reply actions  

i think we were overdue for a good shooting night

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 7:14 PM PST reply actions  

god, there’s not even a live boxscore…

by racsan on Jan 14, 2010 7:14 PM PST reply actions  

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/boxscore?gid=201001140632

Latest Plays
13:32 California – Theo Robertson makes a three-pointer
13:39 California – Theo Robertson misses a three-pointer
14:02 Washington St. – Klay Thompson makes a three-pointer
14:11 California – Theo Robertson makes a three-pointer
14:19 Washington St. – DeAngelo Casto misses a jumper
14:37 California – Theo Robertson makes a jumper
15:01 California – Jamal Boykin makes a hook shot
15:17 Washington St. – Layup by James Watson
15:30 Washington St. – 30 sec timeout
15:36 California – Patrick Christopher makes a three-pointer

by minesweeper on Jan 14, 2010 7:17 PM PST up reply actions  

what the hell is going on here?

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 7:15 PM PST reply actions  

We’re making up for that UCLA performance

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Operation BlitzKougar

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:15 PM PST reply actions  

Jesus 26-8

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:16 PM PST reply actions  

26-8!! Why can we not see this!!!????

by racsan on Jan 14, 2010 7:16 PM PST reply actions  

maybe our basketball team is just camera shy?

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Patrick Christopher makes love to the camera.

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:19 PM PST up reply actions  

HAAAAAANNNNNNSSEEEEEEENNN!!!!!!!

"It's going to be a long season" - Old Blues from 1868-present

by AVNevis on Jan 14, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Theo is going nuts tonight

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 7:17 PM PST reply actions  

I hope we turn in one of these in March =D

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:17 PM PST reply actions  

I’m hoping that on top of shooting lights out we can minimize turnovers

We got the Axe!

by ieeeBear on Jan 14, 2010 7:18 PM PST up reply actions  

26 points in 7 minutes.

DROP A HUNDY BEARS

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:18 PM PST reply actions  

Cal is 6 of 7 from 3

Can we use one of those for the UCLA game.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:19 PM PST reply actions  

26 points and running wild

See what happens when you get your best players on the floor (no MSF).

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:19 PM PST reply actions  

20 point lead… this is insane

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

Randle with 7 dimes already

Sweetness.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

That Wazzu crowd was loud for all of two minutes.

I don’t blame them. They got F’d in the A

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

i absolutely agree with no MSF. Amoke has become a beast

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 7:21 PM PST reply actions  

this brings up a thought I had at the start of the season. “Well, you have no center, so you are just going to have to run wild all year long”, but then Monty doesn’t have that in his DNA. So, he gets a low grade for being able to adjust and play a different style based on personnel. Maybe tonight will convince him. It’s never too late.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Coug fans at the game are saying Wazzu's playing good D but Cal can't miss

Alright guys, time to attack the basket and get easy points!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:22 PM PST reply actions  

Argh...

i hate the sloppy play when we’re up.

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by ieeeBear on Jan 14, 2010 7:23 PM PST reply actions  

pedal to the metal guys, focus!

by racsan on Jan 14, 2010 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

MAX FOR THREE!!!!!!!!!!

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:25 PM PST reply actions  

Don't spread lies

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Really? did he make it?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I am kidding. I knew you’d fall for it.

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha.. I’m on radio too. Who’s fooling who!

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:29 PM PST up reply actions  

regressing to the mean

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:27 PM PST up reply actions  

it’s gonna be a game. WSU settling down…

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:28 PM PST up reply actions  

All right. Let’s get some twos now.

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:28 PM PST reply actions  

Max shouldn’t be traveling… or dribbling

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

should have known the hot start was too good to last

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 7:29 PM PST reply actions  

still up 11… let’s trade some hoops Bears!

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:30 PM PST up reply actions  

32-21, timeout

Okay, we don’t have much depth, so we’ve gotta try to get to the line a bit. I’m looking at you Jerome and Theo.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:30 PM PST reply actions  

0 fouls on Wazzu

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:31 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m starting to get a sinking feeling. Wish I could see their body language.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:31 PM PST reply actions  

they’ll make up the ground, then we’ll hit some shots. back and forth

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

but who will have more points at the end…

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

California

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

We gotta get the crowd out of it...

The Wazzu crowd sounds great right now.

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by ieeeBear on Jan 14, 2010 7:32 PM PST reply actions  

I think that’s pretty hard to do in the 1st half… unless you play at Haas

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:32 PM PST up reply actions  

…which was what was thinking about mentioning.

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by ieeeBear on Jan 14, 2010 7:33 PM PST up reply actions  

Let’s maintain into the half, Beers.

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:34 PM PST reply actions  

It’s like basketball is one big statistics experiment!

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:34 PM PST reply actions  

a poor shot by PC??? shocking

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 7:34 PM PST reply actions  

Nice charge Theo.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:34 PM PST reply actions   1 recs

here here

smart guy.

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by ieeeBear on Jan 14, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Amoke…. hit the side of the backboard?

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:35 PM PST reply actions  

sounds like nothing is dropping for our guys

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 7:35 PM PST reply actions  

As impressive as their opening scoring burst was for the Bears, it sure would be nice if they could place some more consistent defense. Sounds like it’s a race to 80.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 7:35 PM PST reply actions  

From what I’m hearing the defense is there…Cougs are a good shooting team though.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

36-26 for the uninformed

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:36 PM PST reply actions  

36-28

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:36 PM PST up reply actions  

george michael knezevic should never shoot. ever.

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions  

you don’t think Nicola looks like George Michael, do you? Okay, I’m the idiot – what am I missing?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

arrested development

by nycbear on Jan 14, 2010 7:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Maintain

MAINTAIN!!!

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:37 PM PST reply actions  

Sir Randle the Brigand

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

we don’t have enough points to maintain. Must continue to attack.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:38 PM PST up reply actions  

As in ‘maintain the lead’ which would mean attacking for points

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:39 PM PST up reply actions  

aboslutely needed that

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 7:38 PM PST reply actions  

Wazzu has… 1 foul?!

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:39 PM PST reply actions  

Looks like Bears are going to ride the shooting

Since they can’t seem to get to the line or have the depth to seal off Wazzu’s attack. Should be consternating.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:40 PM PST reply actions  

A Tale of One Half

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:44 PM PST reply actions  

where's MSF?

What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?

by greenbean on Jan 14, 2010 7:46 PM PST reply actions  

injury. back spasms? ankle?

by nycbear on Jan 14, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

out, back issues…spasms?

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by ieeeBear on Jan 14, 2010 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

well, we got the lead… and a ballgame

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:46 PM PST reply actions  

Well, we're ahead

41-37. Bears are going to have to hit their shots if they keep on playing this way.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:47 PM PST reply actions  

Need to get to the line.

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:48 PM PST up reply actions  

Looks like they’re not attacking the basket enough…too many quick jumpers.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:49 PM PST up reply actions  

good news

Klay Thompson has 2 fouls.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:48 PM PST reply actions  

1-6 too

Rest of Cougs playing well though.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

that was… horrible

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by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I take it you didn’t see the real baby…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikTxfIDYx6Q

keep in mind, I’m a dad…

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:53 PM PST up reply actions  

hey, don’t try to one up my video link!

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 7:50 PM PST up reply actions  

:-(

cries

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by ieeeBear on Jan 14, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

image if RA had stayed in school… oh the possibilities

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 7:51 PM PST up reply actions  

every time i make an RA vid…i dream that dream.

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by ieeeBear on Jan 14, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions  

7 assists were early though

Most in transition…would like to see more in halfcourt.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

honestly, we’d like to see him with (I’m not going to name a #) a serious amount of assists in every game.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:00 PM PST up reply actions  

agreed

more the merrier.

We got the Axe!

by ieeeBear on Jan 14, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Damn I got home and play my dvr and it’s women’s Cal basketball.

Pretty sad I didn’t notice no tv.

Anyone have a quick summary? Seems like this is too close for comfort right now.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:00 PM PST reply actions  

Came out shooting HOT HOT HOT, built a 20 pt lead. At one point, 28-8.

Then our pace slowed down a lot, Wazzu got into game mode and caught up.

We went from 0 turnover to 6 turnovers, and that changed the game IMHO.

We got the Axe!

by ieeeBear on Jan 14, 2010 8:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the recap.

That’s a relief. Typical of our team to come back from this situation right out the gate.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:04 PM PST up reply actions  

jerome hits his 4th 3

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 8:06 PM PST reply actions  

I recall someone saying Moore was the best point in the conference.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Probably CBKWit, our resident Wazzu expert.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:09 PM PST up reply actions  

bad news

PC, Theo, Amoke with 2 fouls each.
That could be dicey!

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:07 PM PST reply actions  

amoke is the only one to worry about. PC and Theo won’t foul out. Probably won’t get to 4.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 8:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Yep, it’s a race to 80

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 8:07 PM PST reply actions  

For rivalry and conference purposes, this is most pleasing (esp if we fall tonight).

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Bears back up by 10, transition offense keeping us in it

Klay responds with a 3 tho.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:08 PM PST reply actions  

We are going to be streaky all year like this. We rely too much on transition O and can’t score out of the half court. We are good when we get stops, but will go on long dry spells when we dont

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 8:10 PM PST reply actions  

and boy, when is Seeley going to get his career going?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Randle BOMB 3

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:14 PM PST reply actions  

EIGHT FEET behind the line? thats insane

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 8:14 PM PST up reply actions  

sometimes i think he shoots ’em from back there just to taunt opponents that he can.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

59-45 Boykin layin!

And an offensive violation.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:15 PM PST reply actions  

*by Wazzu

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:15 PM PST up reply actions  

As Bill Walton would say, "GET A REBOUND!"

And-one for Wazzu. Amoke with 3 fouls. Missed the FT.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:16 PM PST reply actions  

Wazzu transition basket

Timeout by Monty. Cal up 10.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

ESPN2

Gonzaga is taking on Saint Mary’s right now.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 14, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

its about time. watching depaul up 20 was only amusing for so long

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 8:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wish I could see it. In 2010, with a billion channels and the Internet, this makes no sense.

by BlackandOldGold on Jan 14, 2010 8:17 PM PST reply actions  

MAX BLOCK PARTY!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:19 PM PST reply actions  

we expect it now. he’s 7’3".
now we want a 3 pointer.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:27 PM PST up reply actions  

just don’t make those sloppy turnovers and play some solid D and we are good.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:23 PM PST up reply actions  

we gotta just go to the line and put this game away

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 8:24 PM PST reply actions  

Wazzu with 6 team fouls…gotta stay aggressive…they’re gonna make another run.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Randle is going to top 30 tonight.

How many assists? Double digits… Any rebounds?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:24 PM PST reply actions  

MAX DUNK!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

Moore’s going to be fun to watch at Haas. By fun I mean scaring the hell out of me. Hopefully Jorge can lock on him.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:26 PM PST reply actions  

but i was building confidence that he could stay on the floor without being a walking foul. not a good trend for his devt.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Moore’s creating a lot of contact though.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Randle for 3! 14 point lead.

Moore keeps on getting to the line though and stopping the clock.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:28 PM PST reply actions  

At the end...

… as Cal controls the ball, and the clock, Randle is going to control the ball, and the game. Money from the line. Lots of points coming.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:31 PM PST reply actions  

I’m saying Randle gets 38 points tonight.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:32 PM PST up reply actions  

randle owes zhang some chicken chow mien tnite

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 8:31 PM PST reply actions  

7:49 to play???

133 points, christ.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:32 PM PST reply actions  

Halftime

Washington has a 41-22 lead over Stanford.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 14, 2010 8:34 PM PST reply actions  

This is very close to being over.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:37 PM PST reply actions  

Don’t. SAY THAT.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Randle will nail a ton of free throws

The butter is getting hard. It’s in the refrigerator.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

And the jello is jiggling!

by BlackandOldGold on Jan 14, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

Jello is JIGGLING baby.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

JINXED IT TOO LATE!

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

You're safe

Randle ain’t giving this one up. You’ll see. WSU has to step out to get him to give up the ball and good things will happen. Close out.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah it just feels very safe instead of the game slipping away and use getting by.

Confident Bears, senior squad, I like this feeling.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Seriously. Don’t play around with this shit. No jinxes.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:41 PM PST up reply actions  

Know your personnel. It has nothing to do with Jinxes.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Well nickle is right. Unless there is OT, this game will be over relatively soon :)

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by AVNevis on Jan 14, 2010 8:39 PM PST up reply actions  

And Wazzu was a long three away from a six point game. It’s not over until it’s over.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:42 PM PST up reply actions  

ev.er!

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by ikoolykedat on Jan 14, 2010 8:39 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

A little off topic. I’m watching Full Color Football about the AFL, and there’s a clip with Lee Grosscup. I just realized that after about 25 years of listening and watching Cal football, this is the first time I can remember seeing him.

by BlackandOldGold on Jan 14, 2010 8:39 PM PST reply actions  

gronkowski is declaring for the draft, thank god

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 8:40 PM PST reply actions  

just saw it cross espn bottomline, right after Orgeron said he wasn’t doing any illegal recruiting. lol

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

No

He has to average a triple-double first.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 14, 2010 8:44 PM PST up reply actions  

which one?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 8:43 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks for the update! How’ve they been looking individually?

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Eliza Pierre has looked especially good. Sort of a women’s version of Jorge Gutierrez — really aggressive defense and a whole bunch of steals.

But right now Lexi is down. She took a real hard blow to her jaw and has been down on the court for several minutes. Got my fingers crossed is not serious.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 14, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

I was wondering, she really looks off her game right now.

by Yes We Cannon on Jan 14, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

Lexi’s back in the game. Looks like she’s hurting, though.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 14, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

The couple shots I’ve seen her take are pretty uncharacteristic.
Then again, I haven’t watched this year’s team as much as I watched the last couple teams.

by Yes We Cannon on Jan 14, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with your man norcalnick on this year's team

It’s exciting simply because there is so much young talent to develop for the future…

in 2 yrs this team is going to be very good… they will cut down the tovs as they mature

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by Nate Parham on Jan 14, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

Very, very impressed by Pierre...

Despite the slow start, this team has a very, very bright future

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by Nate Parham on Jan 14, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m liking the Swish Appeal coverage I’ve seen so far.

by Yes We Cannon on Jan 14, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

Thanks

Will continue to follow Cal…whenever i can get a feed…

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by Nate Parham on Jan 14, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve joined Swish Appeal.

Glad to know it exists, thanks for your work!

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by BearStage on Jan 15, 2010 12:46 AM PST up reply actions  

How was Clarendon?

She’s the real deal. In the one game I’ve seen, Pierre looked intimidated, but not Layshia.

I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.

by BTown85 on Jan 14, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Funny: Clarendon was the one who looked intimidated tonight

She didn’t play poorly, just never really got going. But she actually was one of the first players that caught my eye: a shockingly poised player for a freshman, generally a good decision maker with the ball.

Pierre’s defense is what was most amazing…

But offensively, she looked far from intimidated tonight — she showed that she can do a little bit of everything on offense, from getting to the basket, setting up teammates, and running point.

Tonight, defense won the game for cal…and pierre just happened to fit the bill

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by Nate Parham on Jan 14, 2010 9:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Clarendon went down with a shoulder injury in the second half and was taken back to the locker room for a while. She did come back into the game, but I don’t know if the shoulder was still bothering her. The wasn’t a big factor.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 14, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

“She” wasn’t a big factor.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 14, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec'd

Thanks. I’m taking my kids to see them play at OSU. Looking forward to some aggresive ball from the Phenom Freshmen.

I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.

by BTown85 on Jan 14, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Sort of a women’s version of Jorge Gutierrez

I have been saying this all year. She is fantastic, very much a female Jorge. Only much faster. And man, she has some stamina.

I just got back from the women’s game – it turned about 1/4 of the way through the second half. Cal played a full court press for the entire second half, and about 5 minutes into it UW just ran out of gas. They must have turned it over a dozen+ times in the second half. That led to easy buckets for the bears.

Pierre is an absolute menace on defense and her offense is coming along as she gets more confidence. She is a ton of fun to watch

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by CBKWit on Jan 14, 2010 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal up by 9, 3:44 left

This game is not over. You people are too cocky.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:45 PM PST reply actions  

okay, well Randle can’t go back to Sophomore Randle where he made turnovers like that travel he just did!

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

Don't worry, Avinash

If Cal loses, I will change my signon name and you’ll never see from ConcordTom again.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions  

but you might hear from concordt0m

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Not me

Have been burned too much to be cocky. Hang on, Bears. Close ’em out.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 14, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m sorta wanting to see Cal lose to see Avinash’s rage against us and our subsequent exile from all things Cal.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:49 PM PST up reply actions  

36 for Randle

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:49 PM PST reply actions  

maybe I was too conservative. Shall we say 40?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Randle needs to get that 10th assist. None in the 2nd half?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:51 PM PST up reply actions  

The crowd seems really pissed at the fouls we’re getting.

Sounds like refs mighta bailed us out on few (being that we’re the away team).

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

CougCenter is getting furious at the refs.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah their fans sound exactly like our fans when we’re getting dicked. And I know that feeling too well.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Arizona 64, OSU 62, 2:29 left

ASU 76, Oregon 57 Final

UW 43, stanfurd 24, 18:45 left

by Ohio Bear on Jan 14, 2010 8:53 PM PST reply actions  

OSU beat Arizona 67-64

by Ohio Bear on Jan 14, 2010 9:00 PM PST up reply actions  

but he missed the first so he won’t get the 38 or 40.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:56 PM PST up reply actions  

That is seriously the last thing on my mind.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 8:57 PM PST up reply actions  

All they have to do is give Randle the ball and let him run around. Can’t stop the inevitible.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions  

Score?

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by CalBear81 on Jan 14, 2010 8:56 PM PST reply actions  

Monty should just be cocky, go for OT, let Randle get his 40 pts and 10 assists, and THEN get the W.

“What’s your deal?”

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

Oh, I forgot. Seeley is in the lineup.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 8:59 PM PST up reply actions  

LOL monty, way to piss of the coug fans. That is awesome.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 8:59 PM PST reply actions  

what happened?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 14, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Big play by Seeley

Coug fans pisssed.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:00 PM PST reply actions  

Who the hell throws a LIGHTER? HAHAHA

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:01 PM PST reply actions  

he was out of shoes?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

ha ha ha… funny. (Robert Reid)

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:02 PM PST up reply actions  

just think how frustrated those fans are.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Missed this one. Looked like a fun one based on the 10 comments I read.

Fleshed out summary?

All aboard the Jerome Randle Smart Car!

by rollonubears on Jan 14, 2010 9:02 PM PST reply actions  

been pretty relaxing, but close enough to not bore.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Bears go up 28-8 early, Cougs come roaring back to get within 4 at the half, but the Bears have had a pretty good lead most of the second half. It’s a shootout, led by a career night by Randle. First one to 90 wins.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

“Fuck the refs” chant? Am I hearing it right?

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:02 PM PST reply actions  

WSU fans cheering over Randle’s injury?

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:02 PM PST reply actions  

stay classy, cougs

by omnizzle on Jan 14, 2010 9:03 PM PST up reply actions  

They know Randle killed them. They are being entertained by his greatness. Best compliment Jerome could get. They all walk home saying, Wow – That Randle is pretty good.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

They’re also saying ‘thank god he’s graduating’

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

So true, so true.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

jeromey please be okay

by nycbear on Jan 14, 2010 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

Great, Randle goes knee to knee

I’m blaming you nickle and concordtom if he can’t play Saturday.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:03 PM PST reply actions  

I wish I had that much influence over the outcome of our games.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I didn’t say he wouldn’t get hurt. I just said he’d get 38, then 40 points.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:05 PM PST up reply actions  

and seems I called the 90 points long time ago, too.
Sorry, I’m feeling pretty damn good right now. Fun game!!! Fun chat!!

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

this is just a tad better feeling than the UCLA game. Uhg. I was a mess that night.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

FYI, Kenpom predicted an 83-74 Cal win.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:09 PM PST up reply actions  

Come on, Rag. Normally I’m Mr. Dour. Can’t I live in the sunshine for once?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

oh, you definitely called this one. i was actually pointing out that pomery missed on this one (relatively so, at least).

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

And I even get to keep my name!

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Most points since Powe v. Oregon

Brings back good memories rags?

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:05 PM PST reply actions  

oh god, that Oregon game was fucking incredible. i don’t think this one quite compares, but it sure would have been fun to watch.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:06 PM PST up reply actions  

93-88 final. Bears win, take sole possession of first place in the Pac-10.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

spread is 4, pretty exciting

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

Women win 60-43.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 14, 2010 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

Good times!

Hopefully we can get sweeps on Saturday.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Cal outscored Washington 36-18 in the second half. It was the defense that won the game. Washington turned the ball over 28 times and the vast majority were forced by really aggressive Cal defense. Eliza Pierre was amazing.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 14, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Go Bears!

Crowd is BOOING and littering the court. AWESOME!

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:06 PM PST reply actions  

Watch yourself boy

I would’ve hunted you down if we’d lost.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Worst thing about the finish is Jerome missed 1 FT to miss the 40 points mark. You KNOW he’s going to be pissed about that as he falls asleep tonight.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:08 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh yeah, I’m sure he’s pissed. 39 points sucks. What a scrub.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

No. I mean, 40 is a much bigger number than 39. Trust me on this one.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Hey! Whenever I predict something I get torn to shreds. Treat everyone equally!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 14, 2010 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Why isn’t Boykin 100%?

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:08 PM PST reply actions  

Thank god for iPhones

Hey CGB! I’m in Vegas and bet 20 on the bears! Thanks for the petty cash Jerome! Go bears!

Norcalnick's chick. Go Bears!

by aee07 on Jan 14, 2010 9:09 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

That’s the best. Betting on the Bears in vegas AND coming up. They never seem to win on any of the games I bet on. Or the games I don’t.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

What a different team WSU has become. 93 to 88? Jeeeez, talk about a defensive struggle.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:09 PM PST reply actions  

Struggling to play defense? Yeah, definitely.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

Well. No Jorge, no MSF, no depth. Quite happy with this.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, definitely! Great feeling!
But with 7+ min to go and a 12 point lead, it seemed like they hadn’t been able to slow us down. we were getting points. And you could just tell that it was going to continue back and forth like that until we got close enough that randle would be able to close it out.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

Wazzu is not a good defensive team

Didn’t you read the stats at the top?

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

No. Yes. Not Really. But if that’s the case, then why were you sweating?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Because they can get to the line and shoot 3s. That’s all you need to get back.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Are we a better team without MSF? discuss

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 9:12 PM PST reply actions  

no. he can score and add depth. made some good shots against usc

Cooler than a Polar Bear's toenails.

by Thoroughbred on Jan 14, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

I’d actually like to see our team run. Seeley is best in the open floor. We could use him in that setting better than MSF in the slow down. I’d like to see Monty mix things up. Maybe Ken Bone did us a favor.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

No, because that means one less person on the bench. Otherwise we’re running ragged at the end like last season.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:13 PM PST up reply actions  

no.

remember when we swept through washington last year? jordan wilkes missed that trip with injuries. doesn’t mean we’re a better team without him.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. MSF is good for depth. But Max and Amoke should be getting way more minutes. Max is a better defender, Amoke rebounds WAY better than MSF

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah Amoke definitely gets his boards even though he seems so undersized. And he always finds a crease in the paint off the ball to get real easy layups.

He seriously needs to stop making silly fouls so he can contribute longer.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think Max is in good enough shape to play way more minutes. I’d like to see more Amoke, but I’d also like to see him cut down on the fouls, and I don’t think he can defend the post quite the way Max and MSF do.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:18 PM PST up reply actions  

He’s a 3 playing a lot of 4 duty…this is where Kamp is missed.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:19 PM PST up reply actions  

And Jordan Wilkes, and Taylor Harrison, and Ryan Anderson. All would have been eligible bigs this year.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I find it funny that you put Ryan Anderson last.

All aboard the Jerome Randle Smart Car!

by rollonubears on Jan 14, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

least likely to actually be here…

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

He had 8 minutes last night; he’s averaging maybe 9 minutes a game. You don’t think he could handle, say, 15-20 minutes a game? His season high is 24 minutes, and he’s been over the 20 minute mark twice and 18 minutes twice.

by atomsareenough on Jan 15, 2010 9:44 AM PST up reply actions  

I’d say, from what I’ve seen of his body language on the court, that 15 minutes are his ceiling right now for effective minutes. He gets noticably winded relatively quickly (still in much better shape than me…)

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 15, 2010 11:47 AM PST up reply actions  

we need his depth and fouls and body. all of which are essentially the same thing. he’s not a liability on either end either so he’s pretty crucial.

plus he can hit those mid range jumpers. not that I wanna see that, but just shows he plays with a lot of confidence.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, we absolutely need someone his size. But maybe try and run more as the default, rather than MSF in half court as the default.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I actually think we run a fair amount, but it’s keyed off our defense. When we get steals and advantageous rebounds, we tend to push it pretty well. Your big man is always going to be trailing anyway, just based on his relative speed and how close he is to the other basket.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:20 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't know why I get so into that point... If it's open to run, Randle goes.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Yup, we ALWAYS convert those TO to points, especially b/c randle is so quick and we run the 3v2, 2v1 fast breaks real well.

Our success is gona be based on how much defense our players want to play each night. I think this was evident early in the season, and I don’t think much has changed since then.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. And that’s why we miss Jorge so much.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh right, remember guys the tipoff for the game at Washington on Saturday is in the MORNING at 11:30 AM. Real early game.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:13 PM PST reply actions  

Good

That clears the day for the NFL playoffs.

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by Rated-R Superstar on Jan 14, 2010 9:14 PM PST up reply actions  

UDub is obliterating the Furd

Up by 30. Going to be a big game, we need MSF back for that one.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:14 PM PST reply actions  

I think UW is letting off some steam from their 3-game losing streak. I’m glad we get them on Saturday rather than today.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

That and the Furd being terrible I’m guessing.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:15 PM PST up reply actions  

I wish I could have seen tonight's game

Randle goes for 39. Great to see Patrick Christopher finally come out of his slump.

by Rocky63215 on Jan 14, 2010 9:16 PM PST reply actions  

Monty said this just now. Sounds like it was BEFORE the game, and so Monty was pleased he was able to go. So, doesn’t sound like a big deal.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:22 PM PST up reply actions  

prob will be around for the washington game. too bad b/c boykin always seems to show up for big games.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:23 PM PST up reply actions  

always seems to show up for big games always.

Fixed for accuracy.

All aboard the Jerome Randle Smart Car!

by rollonubears on Jan 14, 2010 9:25 PM PST up reply actions  

bears list of injuries starting to resemble the warriors'

What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?

by greenbean on Jan 14, 2010 9:24 PM PST reply actions  

Monty is funny - not wanting to cut on WSU

We had to win this game if we want to contend (like WSU sucks)
diplomatic

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:25 PM PST reply actions  

I’d like to point out that the ’Furd is nearly doubled up by Washington right now =)

by boomtho on Jan 14, 2010 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

I never get tired of the ’Furd losing. Never.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

you wouldn’t root for Stanford in a Bowl game against the Big 12, for instance?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Can’t say that I have.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

i’d say it’s good for the Pac10 and good for Cal, actually.
But I hear ya.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I would only root for stanfurd if they were playing against terrorists.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 14, 2010 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

depends on which terrorists.

by LeonPowe on Jan 14, 2010 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

UCLA?

All aboard the Jerome Randle Smart Car!

by rollonubears on Jan 14, 2010 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

BTW this way of not going to a new post game thread is nice.

by nickle on Jan 14, 2010 9:28 PM PST reply actions  

Too much going on, better to keep it here. Postgame thoughts tomorrow morning.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Noted. I think it helps that we’re still under 400 comments. you never want the open threads to get too big, because of performance issues.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, we’ll probably have a postgame thread for UDub though.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Postgame/women’s game/NFL playoffs.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:33 PM PST up reply actions  

I was just thinking the same thing, but now it’s gotten quiet.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

did our women win?

by boomtho on Jan 14, 2010 9:30 PM PST reply actions  

Yes. 60-43.

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by CalBear81 on Jan 14, 2010 9:32 PM PST up reply actions  

You know what? He’s already over 1500, with at least 15 games to play, hopefully more like 17 or 18. I’d say he’s almost a lock, barring a major injury, to become Cal’s all-time leading scorer.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

Who’s the leader now?

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 9:35 PM PST up reply actions  

he sits in the front row every game with his “benefactor”

by ryandrew on Jan 14, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Sean Lampley finished with 1776. I was at the game where he broke Lamond Murray’s record.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

that 6’7" power forward from Chicago that didn’t make the warriors

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:37 PM PST up reply actions  

What do you know

It’s another undersized player who’s going to take that 6’7" Power forward record.

by Rocky63215 on Jan 14, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

a player undersized for the NBA dominating the college game? what a concept!

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

And while I’m making bold predictions, Arizona State visits Cal on February 27. Anyone else think the Pac-10 title will be decided then?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Jeff Faraudo ran some analysis on this and he needed to get 20 pts for every game this season. It will be close, very close, as I recall. Sure, he got 39 tonight, but I think he got single digits recently, too, no?

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 9:36 PM PST up reply actions  

He did, though that was rather an aberration. He’s got 1510 after tonight, leaving him 266 short. In, say, 17 games, that’s a 15.6 ppg average. Even before tonight’s explosion, he was averaging 19.1 ppg.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

He also has the All-Decade team

Some are good picks, others are well less than stellar.

by Rocky63215 on Jan 14, 2010 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

Really?

What’s your quibble with his all-decade team? I thought it was pretty much what I would have come up with on my own.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 9:56 PM PST up reply actions  

I can certainly envision an argument for Robertson over Christopher (a more accurate shooter, if less prolific, and a better defender), though I can’t imagine one so convincing that would lead me to call tapping P-Chris for the 2nd team ‘less than stellar’. I was actually thinking I might take Robertson over Wethers on the 2nd team, though I do hate leaving Brian Wethers out.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 10:09 PM PST up reply actions  

The easiest way to fix it though

Is just do it on the talent level because let’s face it beside Anderson and Powe there haven’t been very much talent in the big man department for Cal. I would take Hardin off and put Robertson in his place.

by Rocky63215 on Jan 14, 2010 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t have a quibble w/ Faraudo’s first team. But his inclusion of Tamir and Hardin on the 2nd team stuns me. Yes, both had talent. But neither consistently produced during their time at Cal. I would put Robertson in place of one of them.

by Ohio Bear on Jan 14, 2010 10:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Tamir’s senior year was disappointing, yes, but before that, he was having a pretty special career. Remember that Playboy named him a pre-season All-American? His junior year was that good.

Hardin was, yeah, mercurial. So physically gifted, but he could never put it together, at least not for long stretches. Still a force defensively, though. OK, I suppose I would switch Robertson and Hardin. Still, I don’t think it’s a shocking choice, and there’s certainly a big dropoff to the next tier of players in the past decade.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Bad news

Farudo is reporting that Bak Bak wasn’t with the team for some sort of eligibility issue.

by LeonPowe on Jan 14, 2010 10:16 PM PST reply actions  

Well, whatever it is, I hope it’s nothing serious. I don’t think we were going to count on Bak for anything meaningful this year, so in that sense, it’s not so bad, and he actually hasn’t played in any Pac-10 games (just checked the box scores, apparently he didn’t even get in the ‘Furd game), so if it is serious, there’s no danger of forfeiture.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

confirmed

he was at Haas with Jorge

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by CBKWit on Jan 14, 2010 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I asked him if he was playing next week

he said probably. I blushed, because I love him

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by CBKWit on Jan 14, 2010 10:43 PM PST up reply actions  

You pointed him and Bak Bak out to me, but I still didn’t see them. Sad.

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by BearStage on Jan 15, 2010 12:53 AM PST up reply actions  

Oh Zhang! Rec’d!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 15, 2010 5:02 PM PST up reply actions  

JORGE!

and they were at chipotle! i swear they were stalking me all night! i’d take jorge as my stalker any time tho.

side note: COME TO WOMEN’S GAMES!

by BearBallCarrier on Jan 15, 2010 9:39 AM PST up reply actions  

Next year's depth chart, just for fun...

Starting 5:
1 Gary Franklin
2 Gutierrez, Jorge
3 Amoke, Omondi
4 Kamp, Harper
5 Zhang, Max

Bench:
1 Smith, Brandon
2 Seeley, D.J.
5 Sanders-Frison, Markhuri
4 Richard solomon
2 allen crabbe
4 Bak, Bak
3 alex rossi
2 Carter, Nigel
4 Thurman, Robert

Although I confess that bigs are usually the first subs, and I’m banking on Max continuing his rate of improvement. I like that I have Omondi back at 3 where he belongs! Obviously, not enough known about the freshmen.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 10:53 PM PST reply actions  

Sounds like a fanpost man

It’ll be fun for discussion.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 10:54 PM PST up reply actions  

Think it's better as a separate fanpost

DBDs tend to devolve into total randomness after 40 comments.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Jan 14, 2010 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

Is Gary Franklin going to be that good, or are you just down on Brandon Smith?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

Franklin will kick his ass.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

They say Franklin is one of the best pure shooters on the west coast. I picture lots of mid range pull ups. He’s strong and can likely handle some action, not just a set shooter who can get bumped off his shot, like I envision Crabbe. They say Franklin is more just a “guard” (athlete) and not so much a pure point who distributes.
Smith is disciplined and so will get playing time, but let’s face it, he’s limited physically (size), as are most of us.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 11:28 PM PST up reply actions  

I love Max. I really do.

But is he really going to be ready to start?

He’ll need to improve

1. Stamina
2. Strength
3. Weight
4. Add at least 1 offensive move, if not 2.
5. Stop fouling

That’s a lot to improve in 18 months.

by LeonPowe on Jan 14, 2010 11:13 PM PST up reply actions  

You are right. But who else do we have? Unless you want more MSF? You saw what that got us tonight! He’s only good for taking up space, eating fouls. I can’t see him really adding any new dimension to the team.
Maybe Max NEVER gets there (likely), but if you are Monty you’ve got to hope that he does, b/c then your team looks very different. Same with Seeley. We really need to hope he can cut down on the silliness and start bustin some moves. He’s going to be a junior. We don’t want to have to rely on all the freshmen.
I guess my lineup is more hopeful than realistic.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

You are right. But who else do we have? Unless you want more MSF? You saw what that got us tonight!

I don’t get it, MSF didn’t play in this game.

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by AERose on Jan 14, 2010 11:50 PM PST up reply actions  

that was exactly my point. How many points did we score? How did we start the game? It all seemed very good without him.

by concordtom on Jan 15, 2010 7:22 AM PST up reply actions  

I’m a little bit more bullish on MSF, because he does have some basketball sense, and he’s a decent passer and he’s been playing basketball for more than 3 years, unlike Max.

I think MSF will continue to be a better rebounder than Max – who is only good at snagging rebounds in his own area – like most ultra tall, non-mobile centers.

I would love more than anything for Max to take the starting position away from MSF, but I don’t see it happening. I see Max as a strong bench contributor next year and an all-pac-10 second team center as a senior.

by LeonPowe on Jan 15, 2010 12:20 AM PST up reply actions  

the truth is, however, he’ll probably never be either.

by concordtom on Jan 15, 2010 7:23 AM PST up reply actions  

Anyone want to recap what happened?

I see we won (yay!) and Randle had a huge day. But other than that any injury updates? And what is this about Wazzu fans throwing shit and booing and Monty not being classy or something?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 14, 2010 11:18 PM PST reply actions  

We got off to an incredible start, 20 point lead and 6 of 7 from 3. 28-8 or something?

Then WSU fought back and we held a 6 to 12 point lead for most the rest of the game. Sometimes maybe it got back to 16 pts.

WSU could never get it less than 6 or 8 and then Randle just kept the ball and they fouled and he sank free throws. Fun for Cal, little stress, but not a blowout that makes it boring.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

Good. Was Randle injured? Is he ok?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 14, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Don’t think so. Just held his knee for a bit at the end. I’m not worried.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Bak stayed at home due to potential eligibility issue (Faraudo made a comment about this and nobody knows what it means). Boykin had a sprained ankle but he played and was fine. Jorge and MSF stayed at home (injured) so
Boykin played the 5,
Amoke the 4
Theo, 3
PC, 2
Randle, 1
 And Nicola, Max came off the bench. Seeley gave about 10 minutes, too.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Uh oh eligibility issue? Hopefully it doesn’t bite us in the ass

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Jan 14, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

no shit. I am nervous about this. You never want to hear “eligibility”.

by concordtom on Jan 14, 2010 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

MSF was there in uniform, but never got off the bench. Could go Saturday, maybe, if he improves. Not that a bus trip from Pullman to Seattle is likely to help with back spasms.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jan 14, 2010 11:27 PM PST up reply actions  

I saw Lauren Greif 'bout an hour after the game...

…walking to Yogurt Park with some people.
I said “hey lauren, nice game tonight!”
She said “thanks!”

…celeb sighting!

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