2010 QB change
by Tambo45 on Jan 10, 2010 3:54 PM PST
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The 2010 season needs to have a new man under center. Kevin Riley isnt the answer. Hes to inconsistent of a player. some of the throws he makes are so mindbottleling. If we want a trip to a rose bowl then he is fersure not are answer.
Beau Sweeney or Brock Mansion could be a better fit than Riley because the program will go no where with Kevin Riley at QB. Tedford your my boy and you are a QB molder we need to to make a change for 2010. California Golden blogers i want to hear your part in this. GO BEARS
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On what evidence, in specific, do you base your argument that Beau Sweeney or Brock Mansion could be a better fit than Riley?
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by TwistNHook on Jan 10, 2010 4:09 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Uh duh? The program will go nowhere with Riley. Mansion and Sweeney are the answer. We should try to get them both on the field at the same time, because they are both Jesus Christ jr. and we should maximize their limitless talents instead of wasting our time with this hack Riley. There’s your motherfucking evidence.
All aboard the Jerome Randle Smart Car!
by rollonubears on Jan 10, 2010 4:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Jan 10, 2010 4:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Could Sweeney and/or Mansion hit water if they fell out of a boat? If Yes —> start over Riley. If no —> We’re fucked, and see you in 2010.
I’m hoping Riley’s just a late bloomer. I love his run blocking tho.
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by carp on Jan 10, 2010 4:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You continue to deny the existence of the offensive line.
All aboard the Jerome Randle Smart Car!
by rollonubears on Jan 10, 2010 5:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You continue to deny the existence of anti-gravity boats.
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by TwistNHook on Jan 10, 2010 5:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You continue to deny the existence of WR coach Kevin Daft.
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by carp on Jan 10, 2010 5:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So, you think carp continues to deny the existence of WR coach Kevin Daft?
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by TwistNHook on Jan 10, 2010 6:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m hoping Riley’s just a late bloomer. I love his run blocking tho.
Riley for fullback? :)
by atomsareenough on Jan 11, 2010 1:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Beau Sweeney or Brock Mansion could be a better fit than Riley because the program will go no where with Kevin Riley at QB
HolmoePhobe’s head just exploded.
All aboard the Jerome Randle Smart Car!
by rollonubears on Jan 10, 2010 4:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
That was the very sentence that made me facepalm. Am I that predictable?
by HolmoePhobe on Jan 10, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes.
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by TwistNHook on Jan 10, 2010 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Of course!
This kid has it right (or would that be “rite”?) Why do Tedford and the coaching staff bother to go through evaluations and observations, when all they need to do is take the advice of a spelling-challenged Internet expert!
This is just so mindbottleling.
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by SoCal Oski on Jan 10, 2010 4:54 PM PST reply actions 4 recs
Is mindbottleing the next meme? Or perhaps a new investment opportunity?
by GBB4188 on Jan 10, 2010 5:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Did you see Blades of Glory? Will Ferrel used the line in the movie.
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by norcalnick on Jan 10, 2010 5:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s impossible for me to respond to this post without being mean, so I’m going to pass.
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by norcalnick on Jan 10, 2010 5:08 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
You are like the exact opposite of me.
It’s mindbottleling.
by HolmoePhobe on Jan 10, 2010 6:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is it difficult having no restraint?
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by TwistNHook on Jan 10, 2010 7:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the internet, it seems,
is serious business.
by totallyawesome on Jan 11, 2010 3:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hinder had a 100% completion rate at the AA All-Star game. He’s the future.
by turkey on Jan 10, 2010 5:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Poor Rodgers
Hell of a game, hell of a way to lose. I hope this doesn’t taint his standing because the Packers D couldn’t stop shit tonight.
by KikiRevenge on Jan 10, 2010 5:19 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing, and decided that it would NOT, should not. He scored how many times in a row? How many pts did they score? That loss is on the Defense, not Rodgers. Packers should be glad to have him and if they aren’t he can always come to the Niners.
by concordtom on Jan 11, 2010 4:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
where did all of these AOL-style “me too!” posts come from?
Why are all of these people coming out of the woodwork all of a sudden?
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by GoldBlooded on Jan 10, 2010 5:51 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
We're getting popular.
What can you do.
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by Avinash on Jan 10, 2010 7:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
McCovey Chronicles gets 30 “Trade Matt Cane for Prince Fedler!!!” fanposts. CGB gets 30 “Bench Riley for unknown backup” fanpost.
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by norcalnick on Jan 10, 2010 7:35 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, Prince Fedler is quite the pitcher!
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by TwistNHook on Jan 10, 2010 8:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I actually feel he’s much more of a belly itcher (LOL fat!)
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by norcalnick on Jan 10, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s funny all of these Riley sux fanposts. Not a single of them have credible evidence or facts to show why Cal should bench Riley (and facts that show that benching Riley is better for the team).
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Jan 10, 2010 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah football stats are a little harder than baseball stats – in baseball, everyone can at least point to the Giants offense being bad and say “WE NEED MORE HOME RUNS”….so they at least give that rationale for trading for Fielder. It is true, after all, Prince Fielder does hit home runs.
by Missing Barry on Jan 10, 2010 8:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
True but even in baseball the analogy would be ridiculous (granted I don’t know shit about baseball) because they are arguing to bench a senior quarterback that has started for more than a year for a RS SO backup who has had fewer than 10 snaps.
I mean at least with the Riley-Longshore debate you could say “hey Longshore is not doing well and he’s injured and Riley had three great quarters against OSU so maybe we should try him out until Longshore recovers…”. Not that anyone said anything more than “omg longshore sux put in riley”
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Jan 10, 2010 8:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
You could come up with a similar analogy if you tried hard enough. The point is these two are things people actually bring up all the time…
by Missing Barry on Jan 10, 2010 9:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought theuy wanted Prince Fedler.
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by TwistNHook on Jan 10, 2010 8:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they just signed Aubrey Huff lol.
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by carp on Jan 10, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
that’s because Tedford et al mishandled the PT for backup QB’s (not to worry…fanpost is coming).
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Jan 10, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
good. I can’t think of anything he should have done different in regards to PT for backups. Ok maybe one thing: Sweeney should’ve come in earlier @ Oregon
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Jan 10, 2010 10:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really. Nothing different? We had several blowouts this year, both wins and losses. I don’t think any of them should have been in the Big Game or anything, but I feel there were plenty of opportunities for PT.
by atomsareenough on Jan 11, 2010 1:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for that fanpost. I look forward to reading it.
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by TwistNHook on Jan 10, 2010 10:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Unless you’re going to suggest that we should have given Sweeney/Mansion serious PT, I don’t think more garbage time would help us answer this particular question. It might help with development down the line though.
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by OskiMonsta on Jan 11, 2010 12:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but the “development down the line” part is key to answering who should be the 2010 QB.
In my fanpost I’ll point out that not only were there more backup minutes to be had, but the backups should have had more opportunities to actually throw a pass.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Jan 11, 2010 6:19 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really think 10 passes in games are going to make a difference in their development? How many hundreds or thousands of passes do these guys throw a year in practice….? I think people put way too much emphasis on how game situations develop a player, which makes sense we would do that since we only get to see the games….but the reality is, it’s such a small part of all the work the players put in, it’s just really not that important from a development standpoint…
by Missing Barry on Jan 11, 2010 8:05 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you really think 10 passes in games are going to make a difference in their development? … I think people put way too much emphasis on how game situations develop a player, which makes sense we would do that since we only get to see the games….but the reality is, it’s such a small part of all the work the players put in, it’s just really not that important from a development standpoint…
You are 129% correct.
by Cali49a on Jan 11, 2010 9:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If game experience is not that important from a development standpoint, then what’s the big deal about Riley’s experience? Both Sweeney and Mansion have a couple of years of all-important practice time under their belt, so why not put them in a game and see if they can perform?
by atomsareenough on Jan 11, 2010 1:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because Riley has years of practice experience on them, too….
by Missing Barry on Jan 11, 2010 2:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So, should freshmen and sophomores never start over juniors/seniors? What about talent?
by atomsareenough on Jan 11, 2010 2:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Talent is not enough to be a QB in the Cal offense. You still need to know the playbook in and out, look to the sidelines for the playcall to relay to the offense, break the huddle, get everybody up to the line, look for where the safeties and CBs are aligned, determine what possible coverages the secondary might drop into, look for where the LBs are aligned, determine where a blitz might come from, make sure the offense is lined up correctly, adjust the blocking if needed, determine where you are likely going to throw the ball especially for a hot read, and snap the ball within 40 seconds. I probably missed a few things, but that’s generally what a QB has to go through on a pass play. Imagine having to get back up and repeat this process if a if a defender hits you. It’s not easy.
Frosh and Sophs can start over Jrs/Srs. JT has shown that he will do that when Rodgers took over for Robertson and to a lesser extent when Riley took over for Longshore (there’s more to that situation). But until there’s a younger QB who knows and can run the offense just as well as an older QB, it’s not going to happen.
by Cali49a on Jan 11, 2010 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re arguing against a strawman here a little bit. I certainly don’t think that the QB position is ALL about talent, or ALL about practice time, or ALL about game experience. It’s not ALL anything. All I’m saying is that, as an outsider, it seems like kind of a shame that Mansion only had one in-game pass attempt, and that Sweeney only had a handful of attempts spread out over just a couple of games.
Now, I don’t know what those kids are like in practice, and maybe Riley is so head-and-shoulders better than everyone else, that it’s obvious that he was our best option. But, I assuming that the other two are at least competent and learning the system well, I would’ve like to see them get a bit more of a chance to show their stuff and get their feet wet in an actual game, if for no other reason than to get them used to it in case something happened with Riley. It would’ve given us a slightly better idea about their abilities as well.
by atomsareenough on Jan 11, 2010 4:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
well said.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Jan 11, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It would’ve given us a slightly better idea about their abilities as well.
And this kind of goes back to my original point.
I think people put way too much emphasis on how game situations develop a player, which makes sense we would do that since we only get to see the games
The coaches aren’t making their decisions so we can see what they can do. Of course it would be nice for us to get a chance to see – but that’s not really in the interest of the program. We aren’t making a decision, so our evaluation doesn’t serve a purpose….
I trust the coaching staff, who does get to see this stuff day in and day out, to make the right call more times than not.
by Missing Barry on Jan 11, 2010 5:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
and how does 14-40 (Riley’s USC game) serve a purpose for the interest in the program? The game was over after he airmailed Best halfway through the 3rd quarter…
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Jan 11, 2010 9:44 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The same purpose that would have been served by putting Sweeney or Mansion in—getting your quarterback live reps.
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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Jan 11, 2010 10:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like your fanpost is gonna be a barnburner. Whats the eta?
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by TwistNHook on Jan 11, 2010 10:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Imma try for later this week, though cancer research, pneumonia, SI’s Hot Mustard, and my 5-month old slow me down. It’s about halfway done…
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by carp on Jan 12, 2010 10:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
All I’m saying is that, as an outsider,….Now, I don’t know what those kids are like in practice…But, I assuming
Couch QBing is fun, ain’t it? I’m joking…
What cracks me up about these repetitive fanposts in which the QB PT is called into question is that the QB is the sole problem for all our offensive woes when people start looking for answers. Nate got reamed for it. Riley is now getting reamed for it. Truth is, like my good buddy Tepper has said this year, everybody on the offense took their turn screwing up. Riley was average this year but he often times seemed a lot worse than what his performance really indicated due to other breakdowns on the offense, if one watches the film close enough.
I understand what you are saying about wanting to see the backups get more PT. But even in those games that were blowouts, our first teamers were still screwing up and you can’t exactly wave the white flag when you fall behind because you never know what can happen, especially when Riley has shown the ability to come from behind and make it a game.
by Cali49a on Jan 11, 2010 6:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t think anyone has singled out the QB alone as the source of our offensive woes. There has been plenty of commentaries on things such as our receivers’ habit of dropping catchable balls, or how the OL always seems to have one guy whiff on a crucial block, just to name a couple of items. Pretty much every aspect of the offense except for maybe RB has come in for its share of scrutiny and criticism. That said, the QB is the face of the offense, and is in many ways its most important player (though obv. not the ONLY important player), and Riley has had more than his share of poor decisions and missed easy throws, so he’s naturally going to be a big target for criticism. That comes with the territory.
by atomsareenough on Jan 11, 2010 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The better player should play, simply put. The whole point of experience is all those reps make Riley a better player. It goes back to the whole subject of development – Riley’s extra experience has given him more development time, and made him better. Essentially I’m saying it’s very unlikely that Sweeney and Mansion are better than Riley, right now, and experience is a big reason for that.
by Missing Barry on Jan 11, 2010 5:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
MAYBE they make him a better player. It’s hard to say without seeing the practices or seeing the backups in game situations. He probably is, which is why the coaches keep starting him, but I think our picture isn’t complete. Probably Riley is better, and I’m not saying either of the other guys should’ve started, but I don’t see why they couldn’t have gotten more PT than they did, and I don’t think that’s a very controversial opinion to have.
by atomsareenough on Jan 11, 2010 5:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know Carp is going to compose a fanpost about this, but I’m interested in what games you guys think we could have inserted the backup QBs earlier.
by Cali49a on Jan 11, 2010 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s true – I just defer to the coaches and assume Riley is the better player because I don’t get to see the practices myself to see otherwise.
by Missing Barry on Jan 11, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
but it’s our inner Cal calling that tells us “Uh, is this the best way to do this cuz it’s not quite clear to me and I’d love to see you justify argument X.”
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Jan 11, 2010 9:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s just funny to me how we fans, who know maybe 1% (probably less) as much about football as someone like Tedford, feel entitled to a chance to evaluate these things for ourselves and want to see justification (or would like to see, to put it more along the lines of what you said)….
:)
by Missing Barry on Jan 12, 2010 6:49 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s an argument for never questioning any coach’s decision, ever. I know football and baseball aren’t the same, but even as a casual fan, there are many many instances in which I am watching a game and am quite certain that the manager did something completely wrong and stupid, and regardless of his many years of experience and vastly superior knowledge of baseball, which I am happy to grant him, I can confidently state that he was wrong. But then, baseball managers tend to do dumb things more often than football coaches. My point is though, nobody’s infallible or above questioning.
by atomsareenough on Jan 12, 2010 9:04 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I see it more an issue questioning things we have information about. Things like breaking down the gameplan to see if it was effective (or not), questioning a fake FG or going for it on 4th down….things like that seem completely fair to me to question, because we can see the play, see how effective it is, do some reserach into 4th down probabilities and what not….whereas trying to evaluate if our coach is playing the better player is an evaluation based on information we simply don’t have. If someone had an opinion on it from attending practices, I think that could be fair….it’s just seeing how we don’t have that information, there’s just no way for us to know a thing about the subject, and letting a guy get some PT in garbage time in a couple of games doesn’t change that…
by Missing Barry on Jan 12, 2010 9:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I granted that Riley probably IS the better player, especially if you’re trying to figure out who is better right now. So I’m not really trying to evaluate who is better…
But is there a good reason NOT to give the backups some PT if there are opportunities, even if it is “garbage time”? You’re right, even then we may not learn a lot about them, but who knows, maybe we would some flashes of brilliance there, or it’s possible they may completely flop. Still, it would be an additional data point that we currently don’t have. And it would give the backup some live game reps and some extra incentive.
by atomsareenough on Jan 12, 2010 9:37 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I don’t think it makes much difference one way or another, but to directly answer your question:
But is there a good reason NOT to give the backups some PT if there are opportunities, even if it is "garbage time"?
I don’t know. It doesn’t seem like there’s any reason not to, other than any rep to the backup is a rep taken away from the starter? I don’t really have a whole lot to give you, here….
by Missing Barry on Jan 12, 2010 9:52 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The QB position is a lot more mental than a lot of people realize.
by Cali49a on Jan 11, 2010 3:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Though the sample size is limited, It can be extremely beneficial and rewarding. It provides increased confidence and motivation to correct certain mistakes.
You can’t simulate an in-game atmosphere. As Cali49a said, the position requires a lot of mental strength and aptitude. Some may rise (or fall) compared to their practice ability. We’ve seen this time and again at all levels of sports.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Jan 11, 2010 4:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some may rise (or fall) compared to their practice ability. We’ve seen this time and again at all levels of sports.
I’m really not sure this is anything more than perception, really. We like to speculate, but in sports, we don’t really see practices….so….yeah. Some of it also might be a familiarity or matchup advantage in practice, that a different team doesn’t provide. It’s not just that sample size is limited, the sample size is essentially nothing compared to everything else they do to develop. If a player isn’t correcting their mistakes in practice, chances are, they’re never going to become a worthwhile player anyways.
by Missing Barry on Jan 11, 2010 5:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with this.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Jan 11, 2010 9:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It is impossible to come up with any evidence or facts since we really have no idea how good our other options are! The argument then becomes whether or not you trust that Tedford and co. are starting the best QB. If yes ==> Riley (subject to further evaluation during spring/fall). If no ===> anyone else but preferably Hinder since we know the least about him and can dream big.
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by OskiMonsta on Jan 11, 2010 12:56 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Why did the mad scientist buy a bottling facility?
It bottles the mind!
by Oski4Heisman on Jan 11, 2010 10:34 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
I thoguht he bought a Boggle factory.
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by TwistNHook on Jan 11, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Are you reccing Oski4Heisman or Tambo45?
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by TwistNHook on Jan 11, 2010 1:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
…and I did it again, just below.
by atomsareenough on Jan 11, 2010 2:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you need ahug?
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by TwistNHook on Jan 11, 2010 3:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh man, I didn’t even realize it could be taken that way. I was rec’ing Oski4heisman, but clicked the wrong box.
by atomsareenough on Jan 11, 2010 2:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
clearly, atomsaren’tenough.
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by carp on Jan 11, 2010 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Linus Pauling would say’s it’s all about the bonds…
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Jan 11, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Everything is speculation
MSG will start at left guard, Anthony Miller will be the #1 tight end, and Marvin Jones will be the #1 receiver. Beyond that, the offensive depth chart is completely unwritten.
So yeah, maybe Riley deserves to be sent to the guillotine but don’t tell me he won’t be if Tedford has a better option.
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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Jan 11, 2010 5:11 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
(Oh and Vereen will be the starting running back.)
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
by AERose on Jan 11, 2010 5:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure if Vareen is ready.
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.
by zoonews on Jan 12, 2010 11:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vareen definitely isn’t ready, but I hear good things about this Vereen kid.
by Missing Barry on Jan 12, 2010 12:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FML
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.
by zoonews on Jan 12, 2010 12:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
To my credit, I was being consistent with the original post.
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.
by zoonews on Jan 12, 2010 2:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would have to agree with you with who you list as for sure starters and the position they will be starting at specifically. The only other guy we know for sure who is going to be a starter is Schwartz, but we don’t know which side of the OL he’ll be on.
by Cali49a on Jan 11, 2010 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Is MSG good enough to move to tackle?
by Missing Barry on Jan 11, 2010 7:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think MSG is probably better suited to the guard spot regardless of whether he’s good enough, but then again what the hell do I know about the offensive line. He’s probably better at pushing into the defensive line than backpedaling and redirecting traffic like a tackle does.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
by AERose on Jan 11, 2010 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
who will be the #1 Toyama Koichi fan?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Jan 11, 2010 9:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I will, just as soon as I figure out which is his surname and which is his given name.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
by AERose on Jan 11, 2010 9:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
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