Bouncing Back From Oregon + Why Hasn't Cal Been Able to Beat USC?
Despite the unfortunate defeat at Oregon, the importance of Cal-USC really hasn't changed. Everyone knew coming into the season that Cal would have to beat USC, and now at 0-1 in the conference they'll be pretty much in must-win mode the rest of the season.
So as a postmortem on Oregon, and for those Cal fans out there playing the role of Dr. Phil this week, let's remember several things about how Tedford's Bears have responded to games like this.
1) The last time Cal was crushed like this on the road as a top 10 team with high expectations, they rallied and went on to win their next eight games, winning by an average of three touchdowns, and winning the first five games after that defeat by an average final score of 43-18. How many games are left in this season? Eight. Hmmm....
2) A Jeff Tedford team has NEVER followed up a blowout on the road with a loss at home. In fact, every time the Bears have lost by more than a touchdown on the road, they've responded with the following results in Memorial: Cal 37, Furd 16; Cal 41, UCLA 20; Cal 42, Minnesota 17; Cal 20, Washington State 17 (okay, this game sucked, but a win is a win).
3) The Bears have only lost twice in home games after tough road losses. And both of those games were with Joe Ayoob as quarterback. Kevin Riley, whatever you may care to call him after last week, is not Joe Ayoob.
Let's man up Cal fans and get back to the habit of doing what we all love Tedford for: Winning. Play this song on loop the rest of the day, and get the hate back in your body.
It's USC's time to feel wrath. Click after the jump to figure out why we've struggled with them.
How do you feel the Bears will bounce back from their loss to Oregon (also vote in the poll)? And what do you think is the main reason Cal has always been unable to beat USC? Ponder these questions in the comments.
NOT the defense. For all the Bob Gregory haters out there (and Lord knows there's plenty of them out there), Cal's defense always provides some of its stoutest efforts against the Trojans, even when overmatched. Take a look at the offensive stats from USC each season, and compare it to their stats against USC.
| USC Offense Breakdown | Rushing YPC | Rushing YPG | Comp% | Passing YPA | Total Yds | Pts per game |
| 2009 offensive stats | 5.89 | 216.5 | 60.6 | 8.4 | 424 | 28.5 |
| 2009 vs Cal |
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| 2008 offensive stats | 5.05 | 195.6 | 65.4 | 8.7 | 454.7 | 37.5 |
| 2008 vs Cal | 4.81 | 173 | 60 | 7.9 | 411 | 17 |
| 2007 offensive stats | 4.97 | 198 | 62.1 | 6.7 | 434.9 | 32.6 |
| 2007 vs Cal | 4.98 | 239 | 55 | 6.5 | 368 | 24 |
| 2006 offensive stats | 4.08 | 130.9 | 61 | 7.6 | 391.8 | 30.5 |
| 2006 vs Cal | 3.87 | 120 | 58.1 | 7.7 | 358 | 23 |
| 2005 offensive stats | 6.44 | 260 | 64.9 | 8.6 | 579.8 | 49.1 |
| 2005 vs Cal | 4 | 188 | 62.5 | 7.7 | 434 | 35 |
| 2004 offensive stats | 4.68 | 177.38 | 65.6 | 8.2 | 449.1 | 38.2 |
| 2004 vs Cal | 1.64 | 41 | 60 | 6.6 | 205 | 23 |
While the Bears have not reached the heights of the 2004-2005 teams that shut down Reggie Bush, excepting 2007 when Chauncey Washington ran all over us, we have held our own, holding USC below their mean in almost every game. Most impressive is last year's performance where USC converted 36% of their 3rd downs as opposed to 45% on average and sacked Sanchez three times when he was sacked an average of 1.3 per game. Most importantly is the point total--USC has only scored more than 24 points once, and their final totals are on average about two touchdowns lower against Cal than their average points per game. In the most important category, Cal's defense has stifled the Trojans.
More talent. USC always puts out a bigger, more physical, more talented team. These issues can't really be argued. Go down the skill positions and the defenses and you'll see the Trojans probably have the advantages at every position, save maybe running back, defensive line and (maybe) the secondary. And you could probably make a strong case either way about quarterback. Offensively, when USC is on, they're usually unbeatable because of the talent of their skill players in cutting and breaking away in the open field, as well as overwhelming smaller defenses. Thankfully for our defense, they're not usually on against us, but eventually they break through.
USC's talent is not only physical but mental, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Pete Carroll's defensive groups always are good not only at chasing you down in space, but also at anticipating play calls, reading the quarterback's eyes, overwhelming opposing O-lines, turning 8-10 yard screens and swing passes into 1 to 2 yard pickups with their reading and recognizing of the system. These are smart football minds who know how to make quick, smart football decisions.
Depth. Lose seven defenders to the NFL draft, lose another dozen to injury, and they bring up seven more guys who have helped held their opponent offenses to 10 points per game (5th in the nation), 1.7 rushing yards per carry (3rd in the nation), and 227 yards per game (6th in the nation).
Cal, by contrast, cannot afford any error in terms of health. In 2007 they lost players to injury all the time and it ended up hurting us, in 2008 it was part of the difference between an 8 win Emerald Bowl team and a 10 win Rose Bowl team.
The Trojans are like the Red Army. They could lose an army of talent and not miss a beat in plowing your team into the ground. Don't underestimate them, even with the plethora of talent that will be sitting on the sidelines or in LA this Saturday.
Bad luck. Let's face it, Cal had their chances to win last year's game. But they were saddled with an incompetent officiating crew that gave the Trojans a crucial 14 point swing: There was the incomplete pass in the end zone that was ruled a touchdown (0:53 in), and that bizarro ineligible receiver/illegal motion penalty that I'm STILL trying to figure out. Reverse either of these calls, and Cal could be down by only a field goal or tied up going into the 4th quarter, definitely putting far more pressure on Mark Sanchez and USC to respond.
However, that's one instance of bad luck hurting us. There have been two relative constants I see in our defeats the previous seasons.
Quarterback. I hate to bring it back to quarterback play, because I know how much everyone loves talking about it. But for a Cal offense that prides itself on its strong passing game, the past four seasons they have come up woefully short against the Trojans.
2005: Joe Ayoob & Steve Levy, 56.5% completion rate, 0 touchdown, 4 interceptions, 5.7 yards per attempt (season averages of 52% completions, 7.2 YPA, and a 1.3 to 1 TD to INT ratio)
2006: Nate Longshore, 44.7% completion rate, 1 touchdown, 2 interceptions, 4.6 yards per attempt (season averages of 60.2% completions, 8 YPA, and almost a 2 to 1 TD to INT ratio)
2007: Nate Longshore, 44.8% completion rate, 1 touchdown, 2 interceptions, 6.9 yards per attempt (season averages of 60% completions, 6.7 YPA, and nearly a 1 to 1 TD to INT ratio)
2008: Nate Longshore & Kevin Riley, 48.4% completions, 0 touchdown, 1 interception, 4.5 yards per attempt (season averages of 52.6% completions, 6.2 YPA, and a 2.5 to 1 TD to INT ratio)
So Cal's passing game has completed about 50% of its passes, which certainly won't get the job done. Winning passing quarterbacks have, over the last five years have completed 60% (Locker), 64% (Moveao), 64% (Dixon), 36% (Pritchard, albeit that was a fluky game), 65% (Matt Moore), 57% (Cowan), and 75% (Young). You'd expect Kevin Riley would at least have to complete 57% of his passes, and certainly around 60% for the Bears to truly get on track on the offensive end.
More disconcerting is the 2 touchdown to 9 interception ratio. With the Trojans likely to focus on Jahvid Best the way Oregon did, Cal will have to establish their passing attack in some way if they plan to win, whether by a balance of playcalling or a quick hitting attack to exploit any USC defensive weaknesses the coaching staff notices.
If the passing attack regresses to its inconsistent 2008 ways, then it could be a very long, tedious night in Memorial.
The Cal offense finishing the game. The biggest difference in our recent meetings has been the fourth quarter; we have held our own until the must crucial part of the game. In the fourth quarter of the last three games in the series, USC has outscored Cal 28-0; extend it to 2005 and it's 35-7. Two of those games were tied (although USC took a 7 point lead early in one of those games); another the Bears were only down by 7. These three games were immensely winnable by the Bears, yet in the fourth quarter they have put up these epic offensive stats.
2006: 1/4 on 3rd down conversions, 3:36 time of possession, 41 yards of total offense, 1 turnover, 29% completion rate
2007: 1/2 on 3rd down, 4:37 time of possession, 83 yards of total offense (78 by Forsett), 2 turnovers, 29% completion rate
2008: 0/3 on 3rd down, 4:23 time of possession, -1 yard of total offense, 17% completion rate.
What you see in these 4th quarters is a Cal offense that struggles to possess the ball, struggles to move the ball, struggles to pass the ball and struggles to handle the ball. That sort of play is a recipe for defeat against any opponent in a close game, much less the class of the conference.
It's likely to be a close affair again this season between two reeling but still very talented teams. Will the Cal offense step down or step up? After last week, everyone has plenty of reason to be worried.
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USC's Offensive Game Plan
I am really curious to see USC’s offensive game plan. As far back as I can remember (about 2006) USC has always used a VERY conservative game plan against Cal. Taking away our big-play defense, and subsequent lightning fast counter attacks, SC has relied on their defense, field position, and offensive line to grind yards more consistently than Cal. Last year, SC attempted about 3 downfield passes to their wide receivers. Everything else was a five yard pattern to the wide outs or dump offs to the tight ends and running backs. That was with semi-experienced Mark Sanchez (first year starting, but 4th year in the system) who was throwing the ball all over the field, this year they have true freshman Matt Barkley who has attempted about five passes beyond 10 yards all season earlier in the year, additionally he is recovering from a shoulder injury. SC has already been conservative with their offensive playcalling this year, and I find it difficult to believe they can become more conservative.
I would speculate that Cal will stack the line and make SC beat them with the pass, but will Petey the OC assume this, and open with downfield passes, or does SC once again declare, “We can string together more long drives than you” thereby always playing field position, and ensuring Cal has to start deep in their territory on each of their possessions. Forcing Cal to string together a long series of successful plays against Pete’s formidable defense.
Or do they watch the Oregon game and try to bubble screen us to death?
by chowder on Sep 30, 2009 4:22 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
Totally agree with your assessment of USC's gameplan.
Although I believe USC’s strategy has always been to establish the run on 1st and 2nd down to set up the pass, whether via play action bootlegs, screen passes or short-medium range pattern. Then when the defense is on its heels guessing what’s going to happen, hit them with a home run ball (like that first TD).
I’m not sure if Cal will stack the line and dare Barkley to throw, only because Cal has NEVER stacked the line and dared USC’s QBs to throw. They’ll sometimes put a LB on the LOS on 1st down, but otherwise they don’t put any more than seven in the box.
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by Avinash on Sep 30, 2009 4:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In particular, I always feel like we get nickel-and-dimed to death on the slip screens and WR screens. They’re so efficient at running these, that even if tackled immediately whoever’s got the ball can fall forward and gain four yards.
by sec119 on Sep 30, 2009 4:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One thing the Trojans don’t get enough credit for is that they’re an EXTREMELY good blocking team, even at the skill positions. Williams, Turner, and especially Havili when he slips out of the backfield. We haven’t even gotten to Anthony McCoy.
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by Avinash on Sep 30, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus we got killed on screens last weekend, so sec119 is probably right on about what we will see Sat.
by YleeXOtee on Sep 30, 2009 10:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously Gregory is smarter than me, but I hope our defensive game plan is to defend the run vigorously. And I hope upon all that is holy that we better contain USC on their opening play of each drive. This was ridiculous last year, from espn’s play by play: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=283130030&period=0
C.J. Gable rush for 8 yards to the USC 42.
Mark Sanchez pass complete to Stanley Havili for 6 yards to the USC 27.
Mark Sanchez pass complete to Anthony McCoy for 20 yards to the 50 yard line for a 1ST down.
Joe McKnight rush for 2 yards to the USC 29.
Stafon Johnson rush for 4 yards to the USC 44.
C.J. Gable rush for 17 yards to the USC 20 for a 1ST down.
Mark Sanchez pass complete to Stanley Havili for 12 yards to the USC 32 for a 1ST down.
Stafon Johnson rush for 10 yards to the USC 26 for a 1ST down.
Mark Sanchez pass complete to Anthony McCoy for 19 yards to the Cal 43 for a 1ST down.
Joe McKnight rush for 7 yards to the USC 34.
That is an average of 10.5 yards gained on the opening play of the drive, as well as a 50% 1st down percentage.
Note: McCoy = TE, Havili = FB
by chowder on Sep 30, 2009 4:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That USC team was extremely talented and stacked on offense, regardless of how awesome their defense was. Gable, McKnight AND Johnson were all top quality running backs who could’ve started on any other team in the Pac-10.
And I just watched the gametape of that first drive. The tempo was set from the first play. Establish the run (which they did), set up the pass. USC kept on shooting themselves in the foot though with penalties, which limited the damage.
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by Avinash on Sep 30, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SCREEN US TO DEATH
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Sep 30, 2009 4:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SC Gameplan?
Oh, dumping passes to the Tight End in space, a bunch of bubble screens, and the occasional short out route.
After all, those are new wrinkles that Bob Gregory has never seen.
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by SoCal Oski on Sep 30, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay let’s be fair, Gregory gameplans that way against USC all the time and pretty much is successful in containing that offense. The problem is the running game, which has always been superb, especially in blocking out Cal’s defenders, and that establishes the simple but effective pass game.
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by Avinash on Sep 30, 2009 6:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gregory gameplans that way against USC all the time and pretty much is successful in containing that offense.
Too bad he didn’t try that against Oregon.
Okay, dead horse. Moving on. Actually, I think SC will be just as tough to stop as Oregon was. Barkely isn’t an accomplished QB and seems most effective in the high-percentage area of short throws. Couple that with some strong RBs and we have a situation similar to last week. However, since Gregory will have more respect for SC’s passing game than he had for Oregon’s, maybe it will be more effective.
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by SoCal Oski on Sep 30, 2009 9:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We already over looked one QB, I hope it doesn’t happen again.
by CaliforniaCMB on Sep 30, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why does everyone keep saying we “overlooked” Masoli? I just don’t think our pass D is very good, particularly the LBs in the short zones. Every QB we’ve faced this year has had good success.
GOLD OUT MOZAMBIQUE!
by OskiMonsta on Oct 1, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The players said they didn’t prepare for Masoli throwing the ball well.
by chowder on Oct 1, 2009 2:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our pass D may not be very good, but we put Masoli in situations where we challenged him to make passes and he did. I agree that our LB’s do need some pass protection work though.
by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 1, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm more worried about our offense
I think these statistics say a LOT about our problems with USC:
Average ranked opponent PPG vs. Cal: 27.9
USC PPG vs. Cal: 25.14
Average Cal PPG vs. ranked opponent: 29.4
Average Cal PPG vs. USC: 16.43
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by HolmoePhobe on Sep 30, 2009 5:07 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
USC gave up 9 points per game in 2008, we put up 3;
USC gave up 16 points per game in 2007, we put up 17;
USC gave up 15.2 points per game in 2006, we put up 9.
Hmm, yeah, I’d have to agree and say our offense has underachieved in putting points on the board.
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by Avinash on Sep 30, 2009 5:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I'm Pete Caroll
On offense, I’ve got to think that my OL can just grind Cal’s front 7, so I start there with the run. I’m feeling confident that I can pretty much have my way with the short to medium passing game, because well, everybody else has.
On defense, I think my front 7 can attack and destroy Cal’s OL. I load up against the run on 1st down and short yardage and blitz on passing downs.
After last weekend, Cal looks really overmatched in the trenches against SC. Unfortunately I see a 2005-type result.
GOLD OUT MOZAMBIQUE!
by OskiMonsta on Oct 1, 2009 12:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I find this hard to believe, only because the 2007 matchup was more lopsided between OL and front seven, and scorched us with the run, and USC only squeaked away with a 7 point win.
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by Avinash on Oct 1, 2009 2:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And their DE Nick Perry who leads their team with sacks might not be able to play.
by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 1, 2009 9:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That just means Kennard plays more. I don’t see the USC defense being that much less formidable.
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by Avinash on Oct 1, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cal vs USC
As a 20 yr USC fan, your game last week scares the heck out of me, the last thing we needed was your effort against Oregon. Now you know how we feel when we bomb out up there.
In my mind, this is the championship game of the Pac Ten., winner goes to the Rose Bowl, or at least should, this conference is a bookmaker’s nightmare.
This is the weakest Trojan team in years and still is the class of the Pac Ten.Yet, there is no doubt that this year we can be had.
Once Chavez decided to go to the NFL, any realistic chance for an NC game went out the window. PC knows this, and for the first time, is actually in a rebuilding mode, albeit only one season.
Another monster recruit class with two top recievers, a vetted defence and and a QB ready to move into the vaccum of QBs with the departure of Tebow and McCoy all adds up to a top one or two pre-season ranking for next year.
The downside for us is this game. Period.
If we can get by you guys Sat. then we will likey maintain The Rose Bowl domination again this year. If we can’t, well the run is over and the glory will be yours (for this year).
The history of USC, win or lose this game, is continued developement as the season progresses until Bowl time at which point USC will be in the same area code as any team in the country.
This is Cal’s opportunity to give USC a vacation, if you win you will deserve it and would be a worthy rep. for the Pac Ten in the Rose Bowl and in that case, I will be rooting for the Bears .
May the best team win, GL.
by nwtrucker on Oct 1, 2009 1:40 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, Tucker, for the Good Luck wishes. Same to you and the Trojans.
Only time will tell if Oregon and Masoli can continue to play like they did last weekend, but for me, they’re the clear front runners for the Rose Bowl. I’m still excited about our showdown in Strawberry Canyon, but I’m not so confident that it’s for the Pac-10 championship. “Winner goes to the Holiday Bowl” sounds more reasonable to me.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Oct 1, 2009 8:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
could someone tell Marvin Jones to show up on Saturday?
where did Marve go?
"He's so fast, he can turn off the lights and be in bed before it gets dark!" -- Lee Corso on Jahvid Best in NCAA 10.
by dirt on Oct 1, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Fo’ sho though. I will Twitter him.
by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 2, 2009 2:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs


























