Four Questions To Ponder About Our Golden Bears
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As we enter the heart of our season, we still have a bunch of issues to address about our team. Our community raised some of those excellent points in the postgame thread, and I added a few more. Ponder these questions in the comments.
1. Has the secondary regressed? Syd'Quan Thompson and Darian Hagan looked like lockdown corners last season. Yet now on two straight weeks, both the Squid and the Barbarian have been caught staring and given up crucial scores. Hagan was especially brutalized last week.
Although Bob Gregory has always favored zone schemes to stop attacking offenses (and for the most part, it's worked), you have to wonder if it frustrates his talented corners to not be playing more straight man coverage. Other than Thompson, the secondary looked totally discombobulated trying to defend passes, getting called for penalty after penalty. I have to say that of the three areas of defense, pass defense worries me the most.
2. Will Cal again struggle to run the football in Pac-10 season? Now you're probably going "Whaaaaaa? We've gashed everyone we played." Well, Minnesota's front seven pretty much stuffed the run from the middle of the second quarter to the middle of the fourth (why we didn't take advantage of the outside, I don't know). And this is just an appetizer to the real meat of the schedule.
Oregon, USC, UCLA, and Oregon State all have fast and physical defenses that can seal the edges as well as they can contain the middle, which means our blocking will have to drastically improve. We've seen it plenty of times in the last few seasons that if you stop Cal's ability to run the ball, you can take them down. Based on what I saw against Minnesota, they aren't ready to open up the front for a sixty minute game. So color me concerned.
3. How do we cope with the bad kicking? The special teams has reached crisis point. Although Bryan Anger is still doing his thing, and the punt coverage was great (Isi Sofele's hit was legal from the replays I saw), the kicking game has never been in a more wretched state of affairs. We're having such trouble kicking field goals that if the Bears had 4th and 10 on their own 25, I wouldn't hesitate in putting Riley under center and letting it ride.
dballisloose summed it up well.
Seriously, the special teams is sickening…….
why can’t Syd get enough protection to run back the punts?
why can’t we get decent kick-offs? 12 yard line, 15 yard line, 20 yard line, out of bounds…..wtf?! this is a top 10 team and one position (kicker) is fucking this up for us. we can’t let the other team start at their own 40 every time. against the better teams its going to really hurt us.
Minnesota started the first half on average their own 47. Cal was on their own 20.
4. Are we going to unleash Kevin Riley early? TedfordIsGod noted a certain conservatism to the strategy after Cal took the lead.
We really should have been throwing more – guys were open. Riley wasn’t great, but was hitting enough guys down-field to keep the defense on their heels – that is all we need from the passing game. I know some people will get freaked out by a couple of his bad throws, but I feel good about the fact he just doesn’t seem to put his bad throws in places where defenders are going to catch then (except that pass that Tucker had to break up – seemed that was on Tucker though.)
As I said in the pregame preview about our offense versus Minnesota's defense, I was really hoping the Bears would establish the pass to get Best going, but I also didn't expect Ludwig or Tedford to let loose the artillery until they absolutely needed to (which as it turns out was the 4th quarter). Thus we still don't know about his capabilities early on in this game.
Maybe it will happen this week. Maybe.
Anything else you want to ponder about our Golden Bears? Discuss in the comments.
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1) I think Minnesota will be the best passing attack we see all season. Weber is a great, experienced QB and Decker is a first day NFL draft pick. Hagan was terrible, yes, but it seemed like Minnesota was picking on him, which made him look even worse. Remember that Decker pass on the trick play? Who was covering that pass? Hagan. With Decker keeping an eye on how Hagan was defending yesterday, I’m not surprised he threw against him for the TD. I don’t fault Syd. He had some great pass breakups and was brilliant against the run. During the past two weeks, it looked like we had experienced QBs (each who had passed for over 6000 yards in their careers) picking apart a zone. I’m not sure why Gregory didn’t mix it up with man coverage, but I don’t think this can all be blamed on the secondary “regressing.” I find it very difficult to believe that our players could somehow get worse over the offseason. Facing upcoming QBs like Masoli, Corp, Craft, and so on (as well as teams that don’t rely exclusively on passing), I don’t think our secondary will have nearly as many issues as they did in the last couple weeks.
2) Will Cal struggle to run at times? Yes. But, unlike last season, will they have a solid passing game to bail them out? Absolutely. Riley may not be Aaron Rodgers, but he demonstrated yesterday that he can help us put points on the board when the running game stagnates. That was a key component missing from our offense last year.
3) If D’Amato isn’t going to take over as place-kicker or if he cannot consistently get it inside the 10, then I think our only serious option (pathetic as it is) is to kick the ball out of bounds on every kickoff. It’s ridiculous that the 6th-ranked team in the nation would have to resort to this, but it’s beginning to look like we have no other choice.
4) I don’t know. As long as our offense starts off strong, it doesn’t make much difference to me whether we run or pass. Passing would have its advantages in that it would prevent the opposing team from stacking 8-9 in the box, but running sucessfully gets them to fall for the play-fake.
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by Berkelium97 on Sep 20, 2009 3:49 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
They need to get Tavecchio to a psychiatrist or something to figure out why he clams up during games.
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by rollonubears on Sep 20, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions
if he cannot consistently get it inside the 10, then I think our only serious option (pathetic as it is) is to kick the ball out of bounds on every kickoff
What about squib kicking it?
by Missing Barry on Sep 21, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions
I am, in no way, concerned about running, inside or out. I am only somewhat concerned about the passing game. I was definitely concerned at the start of the year, but Riley is showing marked improvement and I think things are on the up and up there.
The kick offs and other special teams gaffes continue to confound.
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1. Has the secondary regressed?
I don’t know if this is Gregory’s specific plan, but Cal has done an excellent job of limiting long pass plays. I looked back at the play-by-play from our first two games and Cal has allowed the following pass plays longer than 20 yards:
vs. Maryland
M 2-7 M12 Turner slant pass complete to Smith for 29 yards to the MD41, 1ST DOWN
(This play was deep into garbage time when the score was 45-13)
vs. EWU
Matt Nichols SR pass complete to Aaron Boyce for 36 yards to the CAL23
vs. Minnesota
Weber, Adam pass complete to Decker, Eric for 26 yards to the CAL0
Weber, Adam pass complete to Decker, Eric for 23 yards to the CAL40
Weber, Adam pass complete to Decker, Eric for 24 yards to the CAL37
So other than All-American Eric Decker, Cal has hardly allowed any pass plays over 20 yards. And only one of these plays is over 30 yards, so even on the rare occasion that Cal does give up a big play, it doesn’t become a HUGE play like a 60 yarder. Granted, our competition hasn’t been great, but I still think this is impressive considering that we’ve faced 3 veteran QBs who have been playing from behind and forced to throw alot.
It especially makes sense to limit long gains and ‘allow’ shorter passes (for lack of a better way to phrase it) because:
1) Cal’s run defense is awesome, which frequently forces teams into 2nd/3rd and longs.
2) Cal’s pass rush is awesome, so drive killing sacks and interceptions caused by pressures are likely events on every drop back. Allowing occasional 10 yard dump passes is OK when your d-line can impact the game with so much frequency. It’s very hard to sustain a drive with our run defense and pass rush. This is why kickoffs need to get better. There will not be many 80 yard drives given up by our defenses. Minnesota needed short fields to have any chance against our defense, and we gave it to them.
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by norcalnick on Sep 20, 2009 4:30 PM PDT reply actions 5 recs
This is why kickoffs need to get better. There will not be many 80 yard drives given up by our defenses.
It’s implicit in my comments, but I failed to mention that I voted for kicking as well. I believe our defense is more talented than every single offense we will face for the rest of the year. Force teams to drive longer than 60 yards and I’ll be very confident.
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I voted inside running. The kicking game is the glaring weakness so far, but being able to run the ball consistently is the key to the Bears’ success.
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by California Pete on Sep 20, 2009 4:33 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd and Agreed
Last year we were opening holes big enough for Mike Tepper to run through on his crutches (thank you, Alex Mack), and JB made the most of them. This year, I don’t feel the O-Line is as effective. Maybe I’m suffering from Golden-Gopher 4th quater hang-over where we seemed pretty ineffective, but if you need yards (or to take time of the clock) late in the game and you can’t get ‘em on the ground, you aren’t going to win some of those games.
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Last year we were opening holes big enough for Mike Tepper to run through on his crutches
Sure. Sometimes. Other times our offensive line ceded control of the line of scrimmage for entire games.
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I’m not yet convinced the inside run game is a problem. The Minnesota defense is big but slow, trying to pound it inside seems to me to be a scheming mistake, our advantage was on the outside.
We will see vs USC and @ UCLA, defenses which are both big and fast, whether the run game can produce under pressure.
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Other than the third quarter of the Minnesota game, we haven’t really had a need to establish the passing game. I’ve felt that a majority of the games have been scouting material for teams to game plan for.
In particular, we’ve run an option play at least once in every single game this season. Teams may not have to account for a spectacular Young-like run from Riley, but the threat is there.
Kick offs, field goals, those are the things I’m actually most worried about. Starting field position will be extremely important for the next couple games. Each of the teams we go up against have rookie-2nd year QBs who would prefer running the shorter field. In the situations we have given the past 3 teams, they just haven’t been able to take care and score, but now we’re into Pac-10 play.
For some reason, I’m not worried about Masoli throwing it around and getting it past us that way. What I am worried about is a possible mental lapse here or there defending against the option offense. Otherwise, we’ve done pretty well against Oregon.
Although Bob Gregory has always favored zone schemes to stop attacking offenses (and for the most part, it’s worked), you have to wonder if it frustrates his talented corners to not be playing more straight man coverage.
I’d have to re-watch the game to find out for sure, but I thought there were at least a few plays where Decker was in motion and Syd was tracking him? Which would imply that Gregory made an active decision that the zone was working out better?
Syd was indeed tracking him on most plays, but for the most part Decker was a coverage nightmare, especially in the zone. Syd’Quan doesn’t have the height and Hagan was totally outclassed.
I sincerely hope that’s the best receiver we face all year. Who are the top Pac-10 receivers right now…James Rodgers?
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Owusu from the ’furd is looking pretty good against questionable competition.
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Syd was tracking Decker?
Never saw Syd break up a Decker catch. I don’t doubt he tracked him in motion at the line, but, then what happened? I asked in a diff comment, doesn’t Gregory have a mixed man/zone coverage? Is that what was going on?…That, once Decker got deep into zone, ( ie, past LB’s?) Hagan covered soft?
I am not worried, tho. Cal’s highly-rated Secondary didn’t suddenly jump in the toilet and get flushed for the rest of the season. Niether Masoli nor whomever QB Carroll wants to use has a target like Decker, nor the arm of Weber to get it there. Gregory will adjust whatever mistakes Hagan or the D scheme made, and, set up for pick-six plays against both Ducks and Trojans. We are behind in pics this year from a more talented and experienced secondary, so don’t be surprised by more than one turnover early by both UO and U$C.
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I just rewatched most of the game.
We didn’t look as bad as I thought, yesterday. In fact, I was waaaaay too harsh on the team and regret a bunch of grades I doled out for the report card. After the second viewing, I’ve come away with only 3 major complaints:
1) Hagan was having trouble doing his job
2) Our offense was having trouble picking up blitzes (could be wrong here), o-line couldn’t block everyone, and subsequently our run game was stifled.
3) Kicking. ’Nuff said.
As of now, I’m not really concerned about Hagan; we know what he’s capable of, and I’m sure he’ll shake whatever is bothering him, sans the lingering effects of injury. Neither am I too concerned about the run game. I’m sure the coaches will pick up on where we’re weak and come up with solutions, ie throwing the ball to take advantage. Additionally, once Holley is feeling better, I think we’ll have a good option for short yardage situations.
That leaves the kicking game. I like our defense, but I don’t think they can play as well when the opposing offense is given a short field. Kicking and coverage needs to improve in order to help the defense out, otherwise it’s going to be a long, long season.
As of now, I’m not really concerned about Hagan; we know what he’s capable of, and I’m sure he’ll shake whatever is bothering him, sans the lingering effects of injury.
This game might end up being good for him, a la Syd in Tennessee. Getting burned all day might help him focus more at practice and motivate him to work harder to prevent the same situation. And it happened in a game we won, so no harm, no foul. It will be interesting to follow his play over the rest of the season.
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Kicking
Kickoffs for one – because teams are already starting 1 first down ahead of where they normally would, but also, D’Amato has never really been tested in a need-to-make kick situation. I suspect that missed field goal would loom much larger against SC, in Autzen or in Pasadena.
1) There’s a poster on Bear Insider who’s a former Cal DB. I was really curious to read his thoughts on Hagan and the secondary. To sum up: The D was mixing up man and zone coverage. Of the three TD’s completed against him, he only blamed Hagan on the second one. (slant-go) There’s apparently plenty of film showing that Hagan likes to gamble and jump routes, so he’s susceptible to double moves. The 1st TD was a great play by Decker with a perfect throw from Weber. Hagan had the underneath coverage, but Cattouse was just a tad late coming over deep once the play broke down. Last one was a great play design by Minnesota, even more so because Decker is a lefty and you don’t expect a reverse + throw to that side of the field. Even so, he agreed that Hagan had a bad game and would have to fend off Josh Hill (who seems to be more sound and has a knack for being around the ball) in practice.
Syd got beat once last week when he fell for a double move. It happens and he responded by playing in God-mode against Minnesota. I don’t think a one-time lapse constitutes regression.
I’m more concerned about ball-skills from the safety spot and that our athletic but inexperienced LB’s are still learning to read routes and to drop the proper depth into coverage. I look at this as more of a work in progress.
Schematically, I think Gregory has been doing a pretty good job mixing up coverage with pressure. All defenses have weak spots. Considering that we’ve stopped the run and prevented big plays, I think we have to give credit to some veteran opposing QBs making good reads and throws.
2) No question, Cal is going to struggle with the run at times. Even with Riley’s improvement, if I were an opposing DC, I’d try to shut down our ground game by mixing up run blitzes and bringing up at least one safety. Everyone is going to try some variant of that…except maybe sc who usually has the athletes to play a base look and still control the LOS. One of the key lines in the sand between glory and oh-crap-not-again is going to be how our big guys handle the better D-lines when it’s straight-up mano on mano. It’s too early for me to call. The first two games really didn’t offer much of a benchmark. Against Minnesota, we seemed to do okay straight up against their beefy Dline except when they were crashing LB’s and DB’s and were really selling out to stop the run. Since our line features a number of younger guys, I’m hoping that we see continued growth and improvement. I don’t think we’re at the level yet like that Phillip/Cameron/OCallaghan line where we can just pound people regardless of how many they put in the box. But, we’re already showing a lot more promise than the past few years where we couldn’t get any push on 3rd and short or at the goal line.
3) Solution for the kicking game. Uh. Shots? With enough lubrication, the yard lines get kinda blurry, so it’s all good. Kicking-wise, D’amato and Seawright had good legs in high school, but haven’t been able to consistently use the proper technique at this level. Tavecchio just isn’t clutch. I’m sorry. I’d love for him to have that breakthrough moment and just “get it”, (a la Alexis Serna) but this ain’t the year, man. We’ve got too much at stake. Anger’s got a good leg and is much more consistent mentally. I’d give him a shot. For Tedford’s sake, it can’t be worse. If it’s too much of a new thing for him to learn on short notice, then I’d just sink or swim with D’Amato. Sadly enough, at 1 good kick per 3 bad ones, he’s already head and shoulders better than the other two. Coverage is another issue. We’re supposed to have better depth than in past year’s, which means better athletes…But discipline-wise, we’re like nerds at a gaming convention with scantily-clad game-babes – sort of an unruly drooling mob. Granted, it doesn’t help with filling lanes when the return is already starting at the 20. Maybe we need to mix-up personnel-wise and use more 1’s and 2’s. At least we don’t have the same ST coach who let Maurice Jones-Drew singlehandedly beat us with returns. Oh wait. Shots. I need shots.
4) I think the playcalling is going to vary based on the defenses we’ll see. We had long runs and deep throws against Maryland because they were playing aggressive and tight to the LOS. We had more of a meat and potatoes approach to EW because they were playing 6 in the box and kept their safeties back to guard against the big play. Against Minn, we mixed it up because they made some good adjustments to our initial game plan. I think Ludwig and Tedford are still being cautious with Riley. After last year, can you blame them? Considering that 1st quarter Riley is usually a little scary, I think it’s smart the way they’re focusing on safe, shorter passes to get him in rhythm with a long ball sprinkled in to keep the D honest. As Riley’s confidence grows and it translates into sharpness on the field, I think they’ll let him do more.
by Kodiak on Sep 20, 2009 6:02 PM PDT reply actions 4 recs
Great thoughts, good read.
Being Italian, I enjoyed a special fondness for the walk-on WOP Kicker. But, enough is enough. Arrivaderci, Gio. Replacing him with a talented freshman may pay off in big dividends later, particularly, of course, if time and experience transfer to distance and accuracy.
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Our back up punter Theimer boomed a huge punt against Maryland. Maybe he can try kickoffs? I say we should try every option.
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I’m still promoting my “take a hairy assed linebacker and put an put school flat toe boot on him and have him swing away” idea….I know, pathetic…Ok, what about the Rugby player idea someone put out…would that pass NCAA rules?… if not, shots it is
by TKE Prytanis 79 on Sep 20, 2009 8:28 PM PDT up reply actions
I watched him warming up at the ESW game, he’s not as consistent as Anger but when he gets a hold of one, it’s is very Anger-esque. I have no idea how transferable the kicking mechanics are between punting and place kicking (and Anger is so good I’m happy leaving him at punter and doing anything to mess that up) but if they haven’t even let Theimer go at a couple in practice, then that’s just madness.
But D’Amato put his first KO in the end zone against MN. So that’s sorta kinda promising.
agreed.
I know JT can add anyone registered as a Cal Student, so Rugby and/or Soccer players qualify. What about alumni, who are working pro bono for the team? Can Adam Duritz kick?
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Alright guys, I have come up with a solution. I spend 3 hours a day for the next few years working on kickoffs. I will be ready to go for the 2012 season.
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by rollonubears on Sep 21, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
Secondary
I think issues with the secondary are overstated. Decker is an All-American receiver and easily the best we will face all year. He scored 1 TD on a broken play, and only did so by making a spectacular catch while getting blasted by Cattouse. He also threw for a TD on a trick play. I won’t chalk those up as failures of the secondary. His second TD was definitely blown coverage by Hagan (who bit on the first move), however Minnesota shouldn’t have even been in position to score at the end of the half — they were helped by a poor Anger punt and a couple of questionable penalties (kick catch interference on Sofele, P.I. on Ezeff).
Speaking of which, both pass-interference calls were ticky-tack at best and straight-up home cooking at worst. Ezeff and Cattouse both timed their breakups well, only to have the WRs bailed out by the refs.
I do hope you're right about Decker
With Gronkowski out, the best recievers I see left are Damian Williams, James Rodgers, and Owusu. I don’t know whether they’re better or worse than Decker, but I see those as the big matchups down the road.
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