Ivan Maisel taking low blows again?
Such a d-bag
| 22. California Golden Bears, selected by Pat Forde |
Merely seven straight winning seasons for the Golden Bears, five of them with eight victories or more. Jeff Tedford might be the most underappreciated coach in the country, and this might be his best team. How smart will this pick look in October when unbeaten Cal is hosting unbeaten USC in a matchup with national championship implications?
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Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com: What if you fielded a football team and nobody on your campus cared?
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i saw that too
i hate that cliche. just because the campus doesn’t revolve around football doesn’t mean the team doesn’t have ample support. now that i know he went to furd it makes it even more ridiculous.
if someone could think of some system with which to quantifiy academics (research grants, stats of incoming students, etc) versus football team’s fan support (donors, avg attendance, tv ratings, etc), there is little doubt in my mind that we would be near the top.
looking at the us news college rankings, of the schools that rank above us these are the only ones with D1 teams: Stanfurd, Duke, Northwestern, Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt.
Aside from Notre Dame, we’d have to rank above those other schools on such a scale.
I am Ted Miller
Exactly
All the schools that CW says rank above Berkeley academically (Harvard, Yale, etc.) suck at sports (at least revenue sports). All the schools that have strong traditions at revenue sports like football (Florida, Alabama, Nebraska, etc.) are jokes academically. The only schools I can think of that are on par with us academically AND athletically are UCLA, Texas, the ’Furd, and maaaybe Duke (basketball).
Btw, USNWR rankings are silly. No way Rice, Notre Dame or Vandy are above us academically, by any reasonable metric.
UNC is getting there football-wise under Butch Davis.
by Missing Barry on Aug 10, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions
All those academic rankings are jokes. One year, Cal was rated the top university in the world by the Times of London, while, the same year, US News, had us ranked beneath UNC, Michigan, and if I remember correctly, UCLA.
USNWR
is a horrible measuring stick for Cal (and any other large public university) because they take into account (and weigh equally) stuff like alumni giving rates and student: professor ratio.
however, it’s useful for one thing – if you check “academic reputation” Cal is almost always top 5.
It can be useful as a measuring stick if you put the schools into tiers with similar schools. The best public schools in the country are Cal, UCLA, UT, UVA, Michigan, UNC. Getting a degree from any of them is basically equal, it doesn’t really matter what order you put them in. So use it kind of in that fashion. Of course if you try to rank them in any kind of order it’s going to come out with a lot of noise.
by Missing Barry on Aug 11, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions
It was a dumb comment, but it was in a chat format and all of the writers were trying (and failing) to come up with quips. Anybody who’s been out to memorial for a halfway meaningful game in the last 5 years knows what’s up.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
Yes but it’s the not-as-meaningful games that make us look bad.
Some say his powerade gives you infrared vision...and that his sweat towels wipe away sin. All we know is he's called giantfan5.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Aug 11, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions
That's exactly it
ANYONE can sell out USC and a rival game.
Many schools in the south sell out their I-AA games, games against Vandy and Miss State.
I guess that means that Cal has more to offer undergrads than just football. If it was meant as a dig, it actually came out as a compliment.
As far as rankings go, USNWR isa well-known joke, as are most of the other publication rankings. The actual academic-based ranking that takes legitimate factors for quality of education, educators, and results is the Shanghai Jiao Tong University ranking, which is perhaps the most authoratative, and which omits such silly criteria as proximity to frozen yogurt stands and average cost of pizza. Also, this ranking considers the entire world, not just the US. The results?:
1. Harvard
2. Furd
3. Cal
4. Cambridge
5. MIT
Oh, and for general reference the other Pac-10 schools placed:
13. Ucla
16. Washington
50. U$C
77. Zona
93. ASU
101 (Tied): OSU
201 (Tied): UC Eugene
201 (Tied): Wazzu
(interestingly, Michigan came in at 21 and Texas at 39)
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
by SoCal Oski on Aug 13, 2009 8:23 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Surprised UW was that high? I never thought of UW as much more than Arizona?
by Missing Barry on Aug 13, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Shanghai Jiaotong's rankings
place heavy weight on the following:
major awards run by faculty
published articles
articles indexed by citation publications
Maisel is a jealous Stanford tool.
Beyond his comment, though, I rather like Pat Forde’s idea—unrealistic as it is—to create a 40-team Premier League of college football. The historic points-based ranking system ESPN also included is worth a look, too. One interesting result in the overall rankings, based on the seasons from 1936 to 2008:
44. California: 260
45. Stanford: 242
Remarkable that our two schools would check in right next to each other. Of course, if the points included the 1920s, Cal would be several places higher thanks to Andy Smith’s Wonder Teams. Also interesting to see is that decade by decade, Cal consistently ranks in the 40s—except for the pitiful 1980s (rank=102) and the 2000s, when the Bears must rank within the Top 20 (but I’m not an ESPN Insider so I can’t bring up the number).
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Aug 13, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions


Merely seven straight winning seasons for the Golden Bears, five of them with eight victories or more. Jeff Tedford might be the most underappreciated coach in the country, and this might be his best team. How smart will this pick look in October when unbeaten Cal is hosting unbeaten USC in a matchup with national championship implications?













































