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Ivan Maisel taking low blows again?


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22. California Golden Bears, selected by Pat Forde
CalMerely seven straight winning seasons for the Golden Bears, five of them with eight victories or more. Jeff Tedford might be the most underappreciated coach in the country, and this might be his best team. How smart will this pick look in October when unbeaten Cal is hosting unbeaten USC in a matchup with national championship implications?

 

 

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Ivan Maisel, ESPN.com: What if you fielded a football team and nobody on your campus cared?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4375901

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He is a Stanford grad, if you aren’t aware…

by Missing Barry on Aug 10, 2009 3:01 PM PDT reply actions  

Hahahaha for real? Now there’s a man chucking rocks around a glass house.

by AERose on Aug 10, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

If any campus cared less about their football team than Cal, it would be the ’Furd.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Aug 10, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

with a degree in American Studies, no less…

by HolmoePhobe on Aug 10, 2009 4:52 PM PDT reply actions  

i saw that too

i hate that cliche. just because the campus doesn’t revolve around football doesn’t mean the team doesn’t have ample support. now that i know he went to furd it makes it even more ridiculous.

if someone could think of some system with which to quantifiy academics (research grants, stats of incoming students, etc) versus football team’s fan support (donors, avg attendance, tv ratings, etc), there is little doubt in my mind that we would be near the top.

looking at the us news college rankings, of the schools that rank above us these are the only ones with D1 teams: Stanfurd, Duke, Northwestern, Rice, Notre Dame, Vanderbilt.

Aside from Notre Dame, we’d have to rank above those other schools on such a scale.

I am Ted Miller

by ava1anche69 on Aug 10, 2009 5:28 PM PDT reply actions  

Exactly

All the schools that CW says rank above Berkeley academically (Harvard, Yale, etc.) suck at sports (at least revenue sports). All the schools that have strong traditions at revenue sports like football (Florida, Alabama, Nebraska, etc.) are jokes academically. The only schools I can think of that are on par with us academically AND athletically are UCLA, Texas, the ’Furd, and maaaybe Duke (basketball).

Btw, USNWR rankings are silly. No way Rice, Notre Dame or Vandy are above us academically, by any reasonable metric.

by HolmoePhobe on Aug 10, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Three more

Michigan

UVa

Georgetown (hoops)

by LeonPowe on Aug 10, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

UNC is getting there football-wise under Butch Davis.

by Missing Barry on Aug 10, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

All those academic rankings are jokes. One year, Cal was rated the top university in the world by the Times of London, while, the same year, US News, had us ranked beneath UNC, Michigan, and if I remember correctly, UCLA.

by j.lee on Aug 10, 2009 8:27 PM PDT up reply actions  

USNWR

is a horrible measuring stick for Cal (and any other large public university) because they take into account (and weigh equally) stuff like alumni giving rates and student: professor ratio.

however, it’s useful for one thing – if you check “academic reputation” Cal is almost always top 5.

by LeonPowe on Aug 10, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

It can be useful as a measuring stick if you put the schools into tiers with similar schools. The best public schools in the country are Cal, UCLA, UT, UVA, Michigan, UNC. Getting a degree from any of them is basically equal, it doesn’t really matter what order you put them in. So use it kind of in that fashion. Of course if you try to rank them in any kind of order it’s going to come out with a lot of noise.

by Missing Barry on Aug 11, 2009 7:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hey…at least we win out where it counts. According to Forbes, among graduates of public schools, Cal grads make the most money. If I remember correctly, Dartmouth grads were tops overall.

by j.lee on Aug 14, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was a dumb comment, but it was in a chat format and all of the writers were trying (and failing) to come up with quips. Anybody who’s been out to memorial for a halfway meaningful game in the last 5 years knows what’s up.

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS

by norcalnick on Aug 10, 2009 8:36 PM PDT reply actions  

Yes but it’s the not-as-meaningful games that make us look bad.

Some say his powerade gives you infrared vision...and that his sweat towels wipe away sin. All we know is he's called giantfan5.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Aug 11, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

That's exactly it

ANYONE can sell out USC and a rival game.

Many schools in the south sell out their I-AA games, games against Vandy and Miss State.

by LeonPowe on Aug 11, 2009 4:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

In a weird way I’m almost glad we don’t get any excitement when we play I-AA teams. When fans go all-out for those games it kinda scares me.

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS

by norcalnick on Aug 11, 2009 6:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

I guess that means that Cal has more to offer undergrads than just football. If it was meant as a dig, it actually came out as a compliment.

And subsequently, the Bay Area has more to offer than just football as well.

Honk if you think Rags is great!

by AndBears on Aug 13, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

Surprised UW was that high? I never thought of UW as much more than Arizona?

by Missing Barry on Aug 13, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

ASU above UVA? wow, I didn’t expect that.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Aug 13, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

That is way too high for UW.

And too low for UVA.

by HolmoePhobe on Aug 13, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Lot of strange rankings in that list…

by Missing Barry on Aug 13, 2009 6:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shanghai Jiaotong's rankings

place heavy weight on the following:

major awards run by faculty
published articles
articles indexed by citation publications

by LeonPowe on Aug 14, 2009 3:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Maisel is a jealous Stanford tool.

Beyond his comment, though, I rather like Pat Forde’s idea—unrealistic as it is—to create a 40-team Premier League of college football. The historic points-based ranking system ESPN also included is worth a look, too. One interesting result in the overall rankings, based on the seasons from 1936 to 2008:

44. California: 260
45. Stanford: 242

Remarkable that our two schools would check in right next to each other. Of course, if the points included the 1920s, Cal would be several places higher thanks to Andy Smith’s Wonder Teams. Also interesting to see is that decade by decade, Cal consistently ranks in the 40s—except for the pitiful 1980s (rank=102) and the 2000s, when the Bears must rank within the Top 20 (but I’m not an ESPN Insider so I can’t bring up the number).

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Aug 13, 2009 9:08 PM PDT reply actions  

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