HoF Round of 32: Tony Gonzalez vs Ryan Anderson
We move onto the second round of the CGB Hall of Fame! For each athlete, you can vote in the poll; it closes a week from today. After the jump, you can read the athlete profiles written up by our commenters, and discuss in the comments your memories of each athlete, as well as which one deserves to move on. (Check out the full bracket here.To check out the original nomination thread, click here. For those who want to track the CGB Hall of Fame posts exclusively, click here or right next to the timestamp where it says "Hall of Fame".)
A few big upsets here and there, lots of football players, some basketball, and an interesting amount of players from non-traditional sports, including a good number of females.
Tony Gonzalez
Tony Gonzalez, perhaps the greatest tight end in NFL history (although John Mackey and Mike Ditka might have something to say about that) starts off our list. Let's take a look at a brief sampling of his career.
Since we can talk about Gonzalez's accomplishments, people might be interested to know that Gonzalez toyed with veganism for awhile, at his peak, as a pro, in his contract year (it's crazier because all these things happens at once).
It took Mooch and his West Coast offense to fully exploit Tony's skills as both an explosive run blocker and deep receiving threat. In his junior season of 1996, Gonzalez caught 46 passes for 699 yards and 5 touchdowns. He was named all-Pac 10 and first team All-America by the Football News and Sporting News magazines.
All the while, of course, Gonzalez was logging double duty as a starting forward on Cal's basketball team. In 1996-97 he developed an offensive game to complement his rugged rebounding and led the Golden Bears to a surprise berth in the Sweet 16.
1. He was so giant catching balls in the 1995-96 season, that among my group of dorky friends we subtituted "Tony Gonzalez" as a synonym for "huge" as in: "Jeez, that burrito is Tony Gonzalez"
2. After losing to UNC, Coach Dean Smith said about Tony G "I believe that man has a great future in football. He’s certainly very strong"
3. I once asked NBA All Star Antawn Jamison what was it like to play against Tony G – he said "he’s not an NBA player – but that’s no knock on him. He’s a really really good basketball player, and strong as hell. He was a tough defender"
Ryan Anderson
Ryan Anderson was as overlooked as they get in college, rollonubears argues:
Was/is an absolute monster. In my opinion, if he had stayed 4 years, he would have been considered an all-time Cal great. His freshman year he was robbed of Pac-10 Freshman of the year. His sophomore year he was one of the most underrated basketball players in the nation. He got absolutely no national recognition (talks about it here around 3:23), mostly because he wasn’t on a tournament team. Look at that team. The people surrounding him were pretty much awful (PChris was the only other good player on the team. This was back when Jerome Randle was the Nate Longshore of basketball). His starting point guard had a 1.2-1 A-TO ration. ERIC FUCKING VIERNEISEL AVERAGED 24 MINUTES A GAME ON THAT TEAM. I think I would give Vierneisel a run for his money in a pick-up game. He had a .298% on threes and still shot 84 of them. And don’t even get me started on Devon ’I’ll give effort when I feel like it’ Hardin. The point is that Anderson was that team. He was the only reason we made it to the NIT. That team minus Ryan Anderson would have had single digit wins
I am still angry that he never got any national props. Look at his stats that year: 21.1 PPG, 9.9 RPG, 49% from the field, 41% from three, 87% FT. He almost (and look how close he was) threw up a 20-10 in one of, if not the toughest conference in the nation. The Pac-10 was getting abundant love that year thanks to Love-Mayo-Bayless-Lopez twins-Budinger-Harden-Afflalo-that whole Wazzu team-etc. However, the guy who was most valuable to his team and who arguably had the best season that year got no love at all.
Ryan Anderson: the unloved Cal great.
He was most recently seen in 2 minute shorts with his *gag* Furd buddy, Brook Lopez. Lopez is his ex-teammate now though, thankfully. He is now Dwight Howard's wingman on the defending Eastern Conference champs Orlando Magic. Here is what Ben Q Rock (one of the smartest SBN writers out there) from Third Quarter Collapse had to say about Anderson (plus all sorts of cool advanced stats if you click on the link).
Again, I can't emphasize Anderson's age enough. A guy hitting 36.5% of his three-pointers may not sound impressive. But let's apply some parameters to that: how many NBA rookies, 6'09" or taller, who were 20 when their first season started, attempted at least 100 treys and connected on them at such a rate? In other words, how many tall, young dudes could stroke the long-ball like Anderson can? Answer: not many. The list is, in its entirety, Anderson, Rudy Gay, Ersan Ilyasova, Lamar Odom, and Tim Thomas. Looking at it a different way, only 15 NBAers 6'09" or taller shot as well from three-point range last season. Second-year phenom Kevin Durant and Anderson were the only ones younger than 22 to do it. This kid is for real, at least offensively.
Those are your choices. Voting time!
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I agree. Even if this were only about basketball, Tony G would arguably give Ryan a run in this vote. Tony G was a very good player who stepped up big in the 1997 NCAA Tournament. But when you throw the considerable football portion of Tony G’s career into the mix, it’s no contest.
Not a knock on Ryan. Tony G is just that great. Easy HOF pick.
Marshawnthusiastic Jahvidtician and member of the PRileytariat.
Anyone who votes Ryan ANderson over Tony Gonzales is:
a) Just plain dumb
b) Hasn’t the slightest concept of Cal history
c) Not a Cal fan
d) Related to or sleeping with RA
Yes, I said it. It is true.
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Yeah, well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.
I was a Raiders fan before I was a Cal fan and Gonzalez played for the Chiefs, so there’s a point. I never watched Gonzalez play like I did with Anderson. Gonzalez is going to win to begin with, so whatever.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jul 7, 2009 9:05 AM PDT up reply actions
While I am A and B, I am not C or D.
I knew Gonzalez would win. I just really love Ryan Anderson. The only player I would vote for ahead of him is the Pain Train. While you guys will say I am being shortsighted about that with no concept of Cal history, having personal memories about a player makes you love them more.
Gonzalez was the better player in his respective sport. He deserves to be in the hall of fame more. But it is boring if you just vote for who is ‘better’. You should vote for those you actually remember and love.
All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!
For those of us who go back at least to the 90s in our Cal fandom, Tony G is in the category of players we remember and love. He was a legit 2-sport stud.
I just remembered something: coincidentally, Tony G and Ryan wore the same basketball jersey number (34) at Cal.
Marshawnthusiastic Jahvidtician and member of the PRileytariat.
I know that. I am not saying you should vote for Ryan Anderson. But he was saying that I am stupid (correct) and not a Cal fan (very incorrect) for not voting for a person who I have never seen in person and don’t have any personal memories about, compared to a person who I have many personal memories about and did see him play in his time at Cal.
All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!
So ...
By your logic, one should only consider sports figures they’ve actually seen and remember for any sort of accolades. So, I guess nobody under the age of 35 could ever say that Jerry West or Wilt Chamberlain was a better NBA player than, say, Trevor Ariza.
I get your point that you have fond memories of RA. It makes sense, you saw him play (quite possibly in real life), but to then state that you can’t consider someone who played before your time because you never watched them is kind of silly, no?
Also, this is supposed to be some sort of Cal Hall of Fame. Including all Cal athletes going back to the time of the dawn of Cal athletics. By your criteria, no athlete wearing Blue and Gold pre-1995 should even be considered.
You definitely fall into category B. Which is sad. Just because I never saw Chuck Muncie play for Cal doesn’t mean I can’t respect, admire, and appreciate his contributions to Cal history.
Come on, be better than that!
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
Different people will have different criteria for voting. To you, you have a broader view. To rollon, he wants the safety blanket of real life experiences. Is one more legitimate than the other? I don’t know.
But that’s why we have unlimited people voting, ostensibly to even out all those differences.
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Oh, just to be clear, I’m not trying to start a flame war or pick a fight with either Rollon, or anyone else. Just trying to understand, is all.
Yeah, well, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
I am saying if I have to choose between a guy that I really love versus a guy that I have no personal recollection of but is more famous, I will probably go for the one I love. If Tony Gonzalez was up against almost anyone else I would have voted for him. There are only a few people where I would go for the lesser qualified person because of very fond personal memories. Ryan Anderson is one of them. It doesn’t really matter because I knew there was no chance Ryan would win. But how can I excite myself to vote when i am voting for a guy I have never seen play (who is going up against my 2nd favorite Cal athlete), but everyone else tells me he is great, so my opinion should be exactly the same as everyone else’s? If everyone voted for the more qualified person, then there would be no point to the votes. They would all be like 150-0.
All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!
If fairness, in the nominations we were given the qualification that we had to have seen the player play to nominate him. If someone wants to give a player they’ve seen play extra points in the voting, I don’t see an issue with that…
by Missing Barry on Jul 8, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Tough draw for Ryan Anderson
I think he was underseeded…
Can’t vote for him over Tony Gonzalez, though.
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Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
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