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"How come the Drum Major isn't the one playing the drum?" via www.ocf.berkeley.edu

Through hard work, dedication, and pure nepotism, we were able to snag an exclusive interview with the incoming Drum Major, David Nagle, in the California Marching Band (Donate Here!).  It wasn't easy given the fact that 1 out of 5 of our Marshawnthusiasts and 1 out of 1 of our Jahvidtician were never in the band!  But somehow, someway we managed to pull it off.  Call it moxie.  Call it dadgummitness.  Call it personal ingenuity.  Call it living in the bushes outside his apartment until he agreed, I do not know.  I do know, he has a great front yard topiary, though.  So modern!

All I know is that his answers to our hard-hitting questions are after the fold!  If you guys like this interview with David Nagle, we can start interviewing other Cal band members like me or Ragnarok.  And then also more with me.  I've got my fingers cross, this is a hit!  I have so many witty anecdotes to share with the world!

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1) Besides marching in bright gold tights, what does the drum major, in specific, do to bring Saturday halftime shows into existence?  Take us through the process here.

There's quite a bit of work that goes into each show, from myself as well as the other 230 members of the band. I oversee the Stunt committee which is charged with the creation of what you see on field as well as maintaining the marching excellence of the band. In the weeks leading up to a show, they work long nights using a computer program called "Cal Chart" to plan out the complex formations and flows that make up a field show. It takes a lot of dedication, patience, and creativity, but this year's group is really something special and I think you'll enjoy what they have in store.

After the show is charted and printed out for the band, we begin rehearsing it in the week or so before the game (if there is an away game in between home games we have an extra week to rehearse). The Drum Major specifically runs rehearsals each day, teaching the show to the band step by step. I climb up a tower we construct before rehearsal so I can get a good view of what's happening on the field and point out any areas that need help or improvement.

2) What goes into the process of selecting a show?

It all starts with the creation of cut tapes, which are ideas for halftime shows with different songs spliced together. These are created by members of the band and anyone can submit a cut tape (I submitted the sports show last year). I present these submissions to the band in several listening sessions where everyone has the opportunity to chime in and give their two cents on what shows they like, which ones they dislike, and what changes could be made to make the cut tapes better. Gradually myself, Andrew Person the student director,  my stunt committee, and MAC (the musical activities committee) narrow down and refine the selection to approximately a top ten. In the end, after a few rounds of cutting and re-cutting, the Executive Committee sits down and decides what the final show selection for the season will be.

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"Artists rendering of Cal Band Drum Major with members of Ex-Comm" via www.balagan.org.uk


3) What shows can we look forward to next year?


I have to keep it under wraps for the time being, but I can promise you that we have a solid line up for the fall. Don't worry, I'll let the California Golden Blogs break the news before any other blogs.

4) What baton-catching practices are there for drum majors?

There aren't specific exercises I do to work on it, but I live close to Underhill field so I've been stopping by every day on my way home to get in a few practice tosses. I also recruited the help of a former bandsman, Hector Salcedo, who worked with me on getting my toss higher and more controlled.

5) Why can't we sing the words to California Indian song anymore?  Why did you do that to us?

I think you'll be pleasantly surprised with pregame this season.

6) What songs would you love for the Cal band to play that are totally unfeasible?

Well I got the songs I REALLY wanted last year by making the sports show cut tape--what makes some of them difficult is the odd measures that throw off the marching, but we managed to make it work on the field. [TwistNHook Edit:  Here are the videos I took of this show, which included a recreation of The Play, last year] I've always wanted a good arrangement of the Power Rangers theme song, but it just doesn't seem to translate to marching band...oh well. Most of what I would want to play though has managed to find its way into our packet, one way or another. Cal Band's been around for a long time and played so many shows over the years that we've accumulated one of the most diverse music libraries of any college marching band.

 

[TwistNHook Edit:  The above-mentioned recreation of The Play put into the Sports Show]




7) How awesome is Carry On My Wayward Son by Kansas and why can't you guys play that more?!??!?!


I am with you 110%. Trombones have that sick intro, and I never get tired of playing it. As long as my chops are still up for it, that song rocks my socks off. You'll have to talk to Andrew about playing it more, that's his gig.




8) What year are you in school?

Myself as well as the rest of Ex-comm are all going to be 4th year seniors in the fall.

9) What's your major?


I'm doubling in Psych and Molecular and Cell Bio. Basically I'm either going to be a doctor or a psychic. Or a psychic doctor.

10) Did you already know how to use the baton (or whatever it's called) before becoming a drum major?


I actually didn't--In high school I played football and was never in marching band so I wasn't exposed to the whole culture until I joined Cal Band in college. Going into the process of selecting our Drum Majors, I thought that it it would be important to have these skills prior to being chosen, but there is so much more to Cal Band's version of the position that goes beyond performance on the field. Not to say that I haven't been working on my baton skills, the back bend, and all of the other performance aspects of the position, its just that those skills are something that you can learn and work on individually over the course of a year whereas the qualities that are necessary to help the band reach its potential must be there from the get go.

11) What's the best benefit of being a drum major?

Personally I'm most excited to be leading the march up to the stadium on game day, and I'm psyched that we'll still be playing in Memorial this season! Otherwise I'd be leading the band up to Candlestick or something. Hopefully if we make it into a certain bowl game, I'll get to lead the band in another type of parade.

12) What is your drum major nickname and can we write it on this blog?


I won't officially have one until the start of fall, when we have our teaching assistant orientation program (TAOP), but you're welcome to come up with one if you want: just no foreign dictators this time.

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13) Whats your view on the UCLA band?  Be honest.

So although I wasn't in a high school marching band myself, I assume it would've looked and sounded something like UCLA's band does. All jokes aside, they are great musicians. But in my mind, the band's purpose on the field is to be entertaining to the crowd, firing them up for the game, and UCLA's band never seems to engage even their own crowd well.

14) USC band?  Be REALLY honest.


I had a lot of proud moments last season, but one of the proudest was out marching USC's band in their own home. It was plain and obvious to everyone there that when it came down to sheer enjoyment of the halftime show, we left the Trojan Band in the dust. Their fans would probably never acknowledge this, but they all knew the truth deep down. When USC's band was on the field you could hear crickets chirping in the stands, and that should never happen at home: your fans are mentally prepared to appreciate and enjoy your performance (with the exception of Stanford) and its your responsibility to give them something fun and exciting. USC's band just doesn't do that. On top of that, I can't understand for the life of me why they need to mic a 300+ person marching band and pipe it all throughout the stadium. They really can't produce enough volume on their own? Like UCLA, I know their musical standards are high so I know its a good bunch of musicians, but when you only play two songs you don't really get to showcase that talent.

15) What would you say the importance of tradition is to the California marching band?  What is your favorite tradition?

Cal Band is steeped in tradition and lore, just like many groups on campus, and we have a lot of cool traditions ranging from stuff that's been around since the foundation of the band to recent traditions only a year or two old. Tradition is great because it connects everyone who has ever been a part of this organization. I'll run into alumni and ask them about traditions that I assume couldn't have been around for more than a few years, only to find out they've been around for 30 years or more.

There are quite a few great ones that you can watch for every game day: You can hear the Drum Major giving inspirational words to the band before they rush up sproul steps for the rally. You can see individual sections doing "continuities" such as the karate kick as they march up from Sproul to the stadium. And if you listen carefully, just before pregame, you can hear band members clinking each other's uniform buckles for good luck.

Other than that, you will have to join band to find out.

16)  What made you originally interested in becoming the drum major?


I actually just felt very passionate towards the end of the year that this was something I could do and wanted to do. It wasn't necessarily something I aspired to the first day I joined band, in fact I hit a few road bumps along the way, but come the end of the season I just couldn't see myself in any other place. You really have to love this band unequivocally to put in the work involved in being an ex-comm member, because at the end of the day you are volunteering (we aren't paid or compensated) your time and sanity to make a great experience for the 230 people in band and the 70,000 fans watching our shows every game. But for me, the rewards are inherent in the position: I can't wait to see this years band successfully perform their first show at the Maryland. I can't wait to see them burst out of the tunnel and march down the field while I'm chucking the baton at the other end.




17) What are your plans after school?

I'm going to take a year off before applying to Med School. I'll probably stick around Berkeley and GSI chemistry  for the summer, then either find a job or travel for a bit while applying and interviewing.

18) What instrument do you play?

I've been playing trombone for 10 years.

19) When Twist was in band, he nearly got kicked out on several non-consecutive occasions.  If you were Twist's drum major, would you kick him out?

I've seen and heard some crazy things in my 3 years in band, and I doubt Twist could pull off anything that would really shock me. Plus, i'm the Drum Major, not the Senior Manager. I'm good cop, she's bad cop. I'm fun dad, she's disciplinarian mom.  [Twist Edit:  That may be technically true, but I assure you the Drum Major that year was equally as disturbed with me as the Senior Manager was]  And I'm a softie, I'd hate kicking someone out of band. Maybe my mind will change after I actually meet him.

20) Does saying "I'm the drum major" get you laid?

About as much as saying "I'm President of the Bridge Club". So yes. [Avinash Edit:  Hey!  I was the President Of My Local Bridge Club for 3 years.  You cut me deep, Drum Major!  You cut me deep!]

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super interview!

Good luck in the fall!

Re: Twist and the boot….when I was secretary….I got to be bad cop….

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Jul 23, 2009 7:20 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Great interview, but really, David you should have taken the gloves off! I know you and Bob have some choice words for U$C’s band… Don’t be polite!

Honk if you think Rags is great!

by AndBears on Jul 23, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions  

Rec’d for proposing to kick me out of the band.

Supreme Leader Ayatollah TwistNHook!

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by TwistNHook on Jul 23, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Can you

kick him out now and back date it?

by LeonPowe on Jul 23, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

Twist, If I were DM, I would have promoted you to official Cal Band Class Clown

Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!

by GoldBlooded on Jul 24, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

You forgot to mention 1 out of 1 Forsett Fan was not in the band.

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Jul 23, 2009 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

David Nagle is my hero…. but its all his fault that you will not see a Hall and Oates show this year. It will be sorely missed.

My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.

by oskisunbear on Jul 23, 2009 1:27 PM PDT reply actions  

Will we at least get to see an Oates show this year????

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by TwistNHook on Jul 23, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oates without Hall?!?!? Are you crazy?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Jul 23, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Band

Having a great band like Cal’s is a true joy. The spark they have been bringing to Game Day ensures our house is a rockin. Keep up the great work and Cal Band is Great!

by rollonyoubearsdad on Jul 23, 2009 6:07 PM PDT reply actions  

Couple of Q's

How many fight songs does Cal claim as its own? How many of those songs are played during a football game, and is there any effort to cover them all?

For pre-game, does Cal Band have any input as to what is shown on the video replay board during the performance? Ideally, I’d love to see the words to “Sons of California” scrolled through to encourage fans to sing along.

Regarding Friday noon performances, I remember that the Band used to rush the steps of Sproul at the strike of noon. However, more recently they have been waiting for the passing lunch crowd to clear before beginning the performance. Were concerns raised internally, or did you have public complaints? Personally, I enjoy trapping onlookers so as to attract a larger crowd.

As drum major, is one of your responsibilities to have a one-on-one meeting with Coach Tedford before the season? In the past there have been occasions where he has expressed great displeasure when the band has played out-of-turn, so to speak.

Any word on which road games the band will definitely be going to? Any word on which road games the band will not travel to?

Last question, aside from your own Cal band, which band in the Pac-10 conference do you have the most respect for and why?

Keep up the good work. Cal Band GREAT!

by ttgiang15 on Jul 24, 2009 7:19 AM PDT reply actions  

From my experience, the rush the steps thing is only for the Saturday performances, not the Friday noon performances.

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by TwistNHook on Jul 24, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, noon rallies, too.
The crowd that forms during those is kind of disheartening, though. No one’s really into them.

by Yes We Cannon on Jul 24, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

How many fight songs does Cal claim as its own? How many of those songs are played during a football game, and is there any effort to cover them all?

Off the top of my head:
Fight for Cal
Big C
Sons Of California
California Triumph
Stanfurd Jonah
Make Way For The Bear
Roll On
Cal Band March
The Golden Bear
California Indian Song
Hail to Cal (Not really a fight song nowadays, but can be played as one?)
All Hail (Same as above)
Lights Out (Which is the Lights Out March, which is not a Cal song, combined with Fight for Cal, which is a Cal fight song)
Cal Drinking Song (not really a Cal tune but our own lyrics)
California, We’re for you (terrible, never ever played, but still one more for the ever-growing count)
Palms of Victory
California Marching Song
One More River
By the old pacific’s rolling waters a.k.a Bowles Hall a.k.a ‘By’ Drinking Song (again, i doubt that this is an original cal song)
Toast to California (definitely not a fight song but rather a pleasant tune often sung and not played)

So I’d say that these songs total 20 in number, but only 17 of them (that’s even a stretch) could be called Cal’s own, and even then not all of those are all appropriate for a football game. You can always hear Fight, Big C, Sons, one randomly selected song for the reason (Indian Song) Stanfurd Jonah/Palms, Cal Marching Song, One More River, and Lights Out at every football game as part of pregame or postgame, and that only leaves 6 football-appropriate songs needing to be covered in the stands. Big C and Sons are the two most commonly heard after a big play, unless of course that play scores, in which case you will hear Fight. The others are called at the discretion of the StuD so it’s just up to him/her to decide which fight songs to play. Some try to play a variety, while others will want the audience to hear a more familiar tune after a break in the action.

Regarding Friday noon performances, I remember that the Band used to rush the steps of Sproul at the strike of noon. However, more recently they have been waiting for the passing lunch crowd to clear before beginning the performance. Were concerns raised internally, or did you have public complaints? Personally, I enjoy trapping onlookers so as to attract a larger crowd.

I feel like this was more of a Rally-Comm issue (or something) in the past 4 years I was in band. We would just wait for a gauntlet to be made by our friendly rugby shirts, then sprint up those bad boys. Also, I feel like the bass drummer who gets to signal the beginning of the cadence likes yanking everyone’s chain once in a while. ;)

Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!

by GoldBlooded on Jul 24, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

During the school year there are sound requirements, which limit us to playing 10mins AFTER 12. If I remember correctly.

Honk if you think Rags is great!

by AndBears on Jul 24, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

A few of the questions have already been answered, here’s a few more:

I worked with the office of gameday experience last year to get the audio from the play piped through the the speakers and the video up on the jumbotron while we were running it on the field for the sports show. We could probably discuss with them getting some of the words to the songs up on the screen, but I would encourage any interested Cal fans to look up and learn the lyrics themselves (all of which can be found here: http://www.calband.berkeley.edu/media/calsongs.html).

I don’t meet personally with Tedford, but Andrew our student director meets with some of the athletic staff to discuss appropriate times to play, etc.

In terms of Road Games, this year we’ll be sending groups to Minnesota, Oregon, and UW. As always, we’ll still send the full band to UCLA and Stanford.

In regards to your question about other Pac-10 bands, I couldn’t say I have one that sticks out in terms of overall respect, although several have qualities which I admire. As I said earlier, USC and UCLA really do consist of great musicians, and they sound great on the field and in the stands. Those of us who went up to Oregon two years ago got to meet some of the member’s or Oregon’s band, and they are really classy people. They escorted us out of the stadium to make sure the fans (who had just witnessed Ezeff force a fumble to clinch the game) didn’t mess with us. And whenever we travel up to UW, their band members always treat us very well. At the end of the day, I honestly would (as unbiasedly as possible) say that Cal Band is the best, most entertaining band in the Pac-10.

by CalDM09 on Jul 27, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

5) Why can’t we sing the words to California Indian song anymore? Why did you do that to us?

I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised with pregame this season.

FUCK YES.

by Yes We Cannon on Jul 24, 2009 3:53 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

Would love to see.....

….the band let its hair down a little for postgame. FORGET the student side, they’re off to party. Direct the band from the edge of the seats instead of a ladder. Bunch closer to the edge of the seats rather than stand in formation. Involve us, the fans. Rock out.

by ososdeoro on Jul 30, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

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