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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 AM PDT
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I need somebody who has good Photoshop experience to help me out on a project. If you are able to easily manipulate photos and can respond to emails in a timely fashion, please email me at twistnhook at gmail dot com. There is a really good project just sitting in idle, because the Photoshop portion of the show has stalled. Dont make any suggestions in the comments or anything, just email me if you can help me. Please. If you cant help me, then dont worry your, most likely, ugly large face about it.
BERKELEY - Cal Heisman Trophy candidate Jahvid Best will appear as a guest on the "Chronicle Live television show to air on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area this Wednesday, June 10. The show will be broadcast live at 5:00 p.m., PT, and then again on a tape-delayed basis at 11:00 p.m., PT.
The junior tailback is one of the nation's top candidates for the Heisman Trophy in 2009 and the country's leading returning rusher. His 1,580 rushing yards in 2008 mark the second-best single-season ever at Cal, while his 8.1 yards per carry set a new school record. Best was a first team All-Pac-10 selection in 2008 and has already garnered multiple preseason All-American honors in 2009.
The opinions expressed in a FanPost are, in every way, reflective of the opinions of every California Golden Blogs Marshawnthusiast. Moreover, they are reflective of every employee of SBNation, including Tyler "Blez" Bleszinski.
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Rugby had many big visitors to games:
BERKELEY – Welcoming luminaries who visited from near and far, including figures from rugby’s biggest stages and another from the silver screen, California rugby entertained an array of special guests in Strawberry Canyon during the 2009 season.
In January, two-time Oscar-winning director Clint Eastwood spent the day with head coach Jack Clark, with Eastwood introduced to the team after observing an afternoon training session on Witter Rugby Field. Clint was on hand to fast-track his rugby acumen as co-producer and director of Invictus, a feature film on the 1995 Rugby World Cup champions from South Africa starring Matt Damon and Morgan Freeman.
Based on the John Carlin book “Playing the Enemy: Nelson Mandela and the Game That Made a Nation” and slated for a December release, the film had previously been titled “The Human Factor.”
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
a great combo. Looking forward to the movie.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 7:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Technical questions
Ok, tech idiot here and I have a couple of questions for you savvy types. I am preparing my Confed Cup Fan Post for the end of the week.
1. Never done a Fan Post so am a bit nervous about formatting and editing capabilities. Can I go back an edit it after I post it if the format is a bit goofy? Is there a preview function?
2. I plan on inserting a number of youtube clips of some of the players involved. How do you replace text there instead of leaving the youtube address? This is purely aesthetic.
I’m not bothering with pictures or logos since that is clearly beyond me.
Thanks in advance for any help.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 7:53 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You can edit. There is a preview button at the bottom of the page. I have no idea what you mean by “replace text there instead of leaving the youtube address?”
To embed a youtube vid, go to the video. On the right of it will be the embed code. C that. Then, go to the fanpost edit screen. On the right will be a series of icons. Click on the second tot he left that looks like a TV. A box will pop up. I forget what the name is, but click on theleftmost option. There will be two lines for text. P the embed code into the bottom line and then insert. It should work.
What is the Confed Cup?
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 8:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Confederations Cup is...
an International Soccer tourney that the USA is participating in starting next week.
And by replace the youtube address with text I just meant I know there is a way to show text instead of displaying “www.youtube.com/ashjKU^8&R5rfi3d” for example. Avinash uses this tactic when tricking us into playing Dicewars.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 8:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Despite beating Honduras on Saturday
I’m not feeling very confident about this USMNT. Way too many questions on the back line. . . and in the middle . . . and up front. (I’m okay in goal – and actually am okay with Landon playing withdrawn forward).
I know we were in Costa Rica where we haven’t won in years (ever?) but the USMNT should really not be losing 3-1 – even in San Jose. And then falling behind to Honduras?
Both back wing positions are terribly unsettled, and if Hedjuk is the answer, I may not fly to South Africa (I was planning on it. Maybe I’ll wait for the draw) No I don’t expect us to win – but I would rather not see every team just run down the side and cross at will on us.
by LeonPowe on Jun 9, 2009 8:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has our team been good since 2002? That was a really talented team that just ran into the buzzkill that was Oliver Kahn. Since then they haven’t really made much buzz.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the US team is more talented than it has ever been. The question is about tactics, which players are being used and how they are used. Is Bradley the best possible coach? I have my doubts, mainly because he’s playing some guys who shouldn’t be there.
Of course, we’d be a lot more talented if dual citizens like Rossi (Italy) and Subotic (Serbia) had chosen the US instead of those other countries.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're
way deeper than we were in 2002 – plus we backed into the knock-out rounds (with help from S. Korea) and nobody expecting much from Donovan and Beasley – two young kids surprising everyone. And Friedel playing his ass off (what did he save 2 penalties that year?)
With the right draw we really should be – at worst – a 2nd round team.
by LeonPowe on Jun 9, 2009 9:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That
Is a hell of a question. That’s currently being debated all across US Soccer websites (soccernet.com and bigsoccer.com) – I don’t have a good answer because I don’t really know who is playing well abroad and who is playing well in the MLS (I only know that Edu was playing well for Rangers, while Beasley was recovering from surgery, Dempsey was a regular for Ful-merica and Adu didn’t play much for Porto – nor for the team he was leant to)
by LeonPowe on Jun 9, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ll go into a little depth on it in my preview but a lot of the “big name” Yanks have not been playing much overseas. Only Howard, Bradley, Bocanegra, Onyewu, Dempsey and recently Edu (who just wrecked his knee and is out until September) were getting consistent time. Adu, Altidore, Beasley, Donovan (while at Bayern) and Johnson were all riding the pine big time.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scottish football is little help
It’s no strain on my patrimony to say that Scottish football is terrible. Edu doing well for Rangers is not necessarily going to translate into long term benefits for the US national team. Put it this way, re: the level of competiton – when was the last time that Scotland was in a major tournament? France 98, and they started off by conceding an own goal to Brazil before losing to Morocco and drawing with Norway.
by DC Trojan on Jun 9, 2009 8:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
All true
But Rangers/Celtic > MLS
Honestly – all this playing around in Belgium, Portugal . . .heck even the Dutch league isn’t going to help the USMNT make the next step to being an outside contender (I’d be happen if we happen to be the equivilant of say. . .Turkey or Norway) – we need more players in La Liga, the EPL and Serie A. And not sitting on the bench either.
Hey – wasn’t there an Italian American kid (Ferrari?) who scored a hat trick in his first appearnce for U-17 or U20? Where did he go?
by LeonPowe on Jun 9, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He plays for Sampdoria
and is on loan at some Seria C team…doing nothing…
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 10, 2009 4:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well okay you’ve got me there. But having seen some lower division Scottish football, things drop off fast, I can assure you ;)
The only thing I’d say in favor of playing in the Dutch Ere Divisie is that it’s a fairly technical league – it always seemed to me that the knock on US players was that while they tend to be incredibly fit and motivated, there’s a real tactical naivete. I know that at least one person here is not a fan of Bradley Jr, and he certainly doesn’t fuck up in half measures, but I think he’s an example of someone who benefited from playing in Holland.
As for the rest… if only US Soccer could be more tactical about getting overseas contracts – Italy for defenders, Spain for midfielders, and England for running around like headless chickens punctuated with occasional leg-breaking tackles.
by DC Trojan on Jun 10, 2009 9:02 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
in fairness to Bradley...
I don’t pay much attention to the US national team, but while the US team has been a bit iffy the last couple of games, I can’t help but cast my mind back to the utter shambles they were at the end of the Arena era… I mean, periodically under Bradley there’s actually some maintenance of possession and holding of shape in defense.
by DC Trojan on Jun 9, 2009 9:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Quit stealing my thunder
You’re thinking much like I am about the US team currently. I plan on giving my thoughts on each team, key players to watch for, highlights if I can find them, predictions and a TV schedule for those interested.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 8:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
not interested in current team
they look stiff and unexciting.
can we get a 2014 world cup preview when we have Earl Edwards, Joseph Gyau, Stefan Jerome, Carlos Martinez, Charles Renken available? do you know anything about these guys and will they pan out to anything? (half joking half serious)
by gogoldenbears on Jun 10, 2009 7:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was encouraged by Spector’s play over the weekend. Get Beasley out of the back line; what a disaster!
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Jun 9, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First, C the URL (not th embed code, but the URL) of the video. Then, write the text you want in the post. Then, highlight that and go to “add link” which is the same grey sideways 8 icon as in these boxes here. Then add the link. Click the “Open In New Tab” box just to make it nicer for all invovled.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
very much looking forward to this
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Jun 9, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Congrats to former Cal golfer Peter Tomasulo
Tomasulo wins US Open Sectional Qualifier
Tomasulo, a member of Cal’s 2005 national championship team, is going to Bethpage Black! He won the Memphis sectional qualifier to make it into the U.S. Open field. It hasn’t been a good rookie year for Tomasulo on the PGA TOUR (I think he’s only made 2 cuts all year), but this is a nice thing for him. It wasn’t an easy proposition either: the Memphis qualifier was stacked with a lot of other tour pros, given that this week’s PGA TOUR event is in Memphis.
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by Ohio Bear on Jun 9, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Charlie Wi is still the best golfer to come out of Cal, Tomasulo’s still coming along though.
by turkey on Jun 9, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does CalBandGreat hate us or something?
Is that what this is?
The The is above upsets.
by Maharg on Jun 9, 2009 8:45 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He has a new job that I think is taking up a lot of his time.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 8:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The White Sox are calling up pitching prospect Aaron Poreda today from Double-A Birmingham, according to ESPNChicago.com’s Bruce Levine.
Poreda, 22, first broke the news on his Facebook page, according to Levine, who later confirmed the move with a source close to the situation.
The 6-6, 240-pound Poreda is a hard-throwing left-hander. He was the Sox’s No. 1 pick — 25th overall — in 2007.
Poreda was rated the top prospect in the Sox organization in 2008, and he was ranked third in ’09 behind Gordon Beckham and Dayan Viciedo.
Its kinda funny, he broke it on his facebook. My sister saw it and told my dad.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 8:46 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This was the facebook message:
Aaron Poreda: This is the biggest day of my life… I’m goin to Chicago, the big leagues, and I ain’t never goin back!!!!!
White Sox fans seem excited, although they also think the Sox might just be showcasing him for trade bait. They seem bitter over the Swisher trade, but thatll end when Swisher bats .205 in the second half of the seaon like always. Hes a real first half guy.
Anyway, Poreda, also a Jewish baseball player!
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that a double-breasted suit? Twist, that’s what I picture you looking like….all orthodox and lawyery.
Jahvid Best is so awesome, he makes me want to strangle a mountain ox with my bare hands!
by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont have a beard, I hav elonger hair, Im guessing from the angle of the collar that that jacket is single breasted and Im not wearing a yarmulke.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So in other words….it really is you?
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by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. WIth my armored dog (not pictured)
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice…I’m sure the village of Orinda will have a parade down by the Orinda Theater that culminates near the Chevron & my old pediatrician’s office (Richard Oken, M.D.)
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
doh! I thought it said Miramonte and not Campo. I guess I got confused with Brett Jackson (Cal’s CF and Miramonte Alum). Jackson is ranked as the 34th best prospect in BA (which is the equivalent of guessing after Strasburg).
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
r u going to any calshakes events this summer?
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said what?
“We’re like Brokeback Mountain.”
In case anyone was wondering what Chad Ochocinco thinks about his relationship with Carson Palmer.
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by Ohio Bear on Jun 9, 2009 8:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
RBR discusses play on Bear Bryants life.
When do we have the play on Tedford???
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
The majority of Pro-Athletes are dumbasses?
by 33SwisherSweet on Jun 9, 2009 10:10 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I dunno
It looks like a bunch of these guys were gamed into real estate and business deals that they didn’t really understand. Doesn’t seem that much different from your ordinary American.
Shawn Kemp and Travis Henry are national treasures. Darren McFadden is on his way to joining them.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shaq
doesn’t deserve to be on that list. I remember he once said that he’s never spent a single dime from his actual basketball contracts – everything he spends (er. . .wastes) is from his endorsement contracts.
Story: A great NBA player with a gift for mimicry was in a van with me for about an hour – and he spent most of that hour telling stories about the NBA. He told me about once his team was down big to the Shaq/Kobe Lakers – but made a big run in the fourth to cut it to about 6 or 8 points and Phil brought Shaq back into the game – substituting Shaq on a free throw and Shaq lines up next to this player and mutters under his breath “I got 800 million in the bank, I don’t need to be out here” cracking this player up.
by LeonPowe on Jun 9, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure Shaq said that in almost every game from 2002 to 2004. He sure played like it.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You trying to tell me your ordinary american isn't a dumbass?
by 33SwisherSweet on Jun 9, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that to a certain extent, people who make money more gradually learn how to manage it along the way. A lot of these guys are taken out of high school and handed a fuckload of money and implicitly told “go crazy”.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
These guys haven’t learned how to manage money. They’ve never been taught it by anyone. They just spend and go.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Easy marks as well, kids who suddenly have lots of cash and don’t understand that they have a short window to get their income. They won’t pull $10 mil/season when they’re 45.
by turkey on Jun 9, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both the NBA and NFL have started offering business tutorials for pro-players, teaching them about money, investments, and business. It is designed to help them in their post-playing career.
We all dream of being a child again, even the worst of us, the worst... perhaps... most of all.
by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wilner Strikes Again
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/collegesports/2009/06/09/cal-football-the-choking-issue/#comment-123044
You’d figure that once during that span, regardless of whether the Bears were ranked or unranked to start the season, they would have exceeded expectations.
Why they haven’t, I’m not really sure.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Carp you should write fanposts about how wrong Jon Wilner is. It seems to definitely get you riled up.
But only after the Jack Clark piece.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We need to get a Ted Miller interview.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Actually, it's really tenable"
as a new meme?
by Nashville on Jun 9, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Chronicle Live is biased towards San Francisco.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 9, 2009 11:01 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
probably…but what made you say that?
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They talk about the Giants and 49ers a whole lot more than the Raiders and A’s. Every time I watch an A’s telecast, someone affiliated with 49ers or Giants is being advertised for the show. Even when they do have a former Athletic on the show, they bring him (Vida Blue) in to talk about Tim Lincecum. It’s not like the A’s don’t have any good young pitchers.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 9, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are the 49ers still going to be the “San Francisco 49ers” even when the move to Santa Clara? The move saddens me, even though I haven’t been much of a NFL fan the last few years, the 49ers are still my team. Ho hum.
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by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure they’ll keep the San Francisco title, but if it makes you feel any better, they’re still in the Bay Area.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 9, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A’s better keep the Oakland title. If San Jose gets to take credit for another sports team I am going to gouge my eyes out.
San Jose: the most useless big city in the entire world.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are the A’s moving to San Jose too? Can you tell I don’t pay much attention to pro sports?
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by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully. Fremont is dead. Oakland doesn’t really have anywhere to my knowledge. San Jose is the best optio, but you just have to get the Giants to stop being dickholes.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are the Giants being dickholes?
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by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
San Jose is in the Giants “Territorial perogitive” or something. No other ML team can move there without Giant permission
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They just want to protect their territory, I suppose. As an A’s fan, I do want the team to move to San Jose. As long as they stay in the Bay Area, it’s all good. Then, the Raiders can renovate the Coliseum and paint the whole thing silver and black.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 9, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m sure Al Davis will find a way to fuck up the Coliseum one way or another.
I still think the A’s should make a stronger case for gentrifying West Oakland and build a new Stadium there.
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by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It really isn’t their territory. San Francisco is an hour away, just like… Oakland! So how does that mean that the Giants get territorial rights? I mean I know a good deal of Giants fans in this area are those with money (A’s are the blue-collar team), and a lot of people in the Silicon Valley have a decent amount of money. But to say they have territorial rights is complete shit. If the A’s have to move as a result I am burning down the House That Steroids Built.
While the rides on the Pain Train and Brock Mansion Party Yacht have been fun, I think its time I hop on the BakBakcycle.
by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the Giants just have territorial rights somehow. They must’ve bought them or something a long time ago. They also have a minor league team there.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 9, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SJ Giants games are fun. If they weren’t the Giants affiliate I would go a lot more. Minor League baseball is cool.
Do you go to Modesto Nuts games?
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’d argue highly competitive HS, college, and minor league baseball (including the independent league) is more enjoyable than a pro baseball game from a pure, old-fashioned baseball experience.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to a single A affiliate for the Braves in Myrtle Beach (Go Pelicans!) and there wasnt anything OLD-FASHIONED about it at all. It was very commercial, very promotional. Get a certain strike out, win this! Hit a home run, win that! In between innings, three legged races around the bases etc etc etc.
I mean I loved it. It was for my birthday. After that we wenet to a 24 hour gas station that sells fried chicken and ate a bunch of fried chicken in the parking lot of said South Carolinian gas station.
It was my greatest bday ever.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well minor league baseball has to be gimmicky to get fans. It is really fun. I think one of my qualifications for places to live when I grow up is a minor league baseball team that I can get season tickets to.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I mean you typically see players hustling, the tempo is faster, the crowd is fairly competent, and it’s a more family-type atmosphere.
I got to catch a Chatham A’s game (Cape Cod League; primo summer league for college ball players) and that was a great experience.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that the team that Freddy Prinze Jr played for in that shitty movie?
Talk about someone who looks nothing like a baseball player. Oi vey that movie sucked.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he might of…I can’t remember. It was a shitty movie.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Summer Catch
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0234829/
ugh, my molars just started to ache thinking about that crap.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
crowd is fairly competent???
How are the crowds at games you go to? Are they incompetant? Are there people signing over their homes in the crowd? Are people unable to walk a straight line???
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have been to some A’s games, right?
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some. Just a few.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you’ve experienced the incompetent fan then, yes? You may have also seen this fan at University of California American Football games. You may choose to call this fan by a different name, but to me it’s all the same.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When you say University of California, you mean UC Davis, right?
So, no, Ive never been to their cavernous stadium filled with bats and spelunking..
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you go to a lot of A’s games?
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve been to 1.5 in my life.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I declare Sanchez.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have been declared Sanchez. Operating under Sanchez’d instructions now.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I decided to declare Sanchez instead of shenanigans. Either way I am pretty sure you are fucking with me.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rivercats games are also a lot of fun.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 12:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I have actually never been to one.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 9, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither. I really feel like you deserve a hug for living in Modesto.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously.
I hate this place.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 9, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
:[. And I think 2 weeks a year there is bad. If it makes you feel any better, my dad made it out and produced me. Just because of that his life was a success :].
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn, that’s incredible.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 9, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The A’s gave the Giants Santa Clara county when Haas and Lurie owned the teams. They did this because the Giants were in desperate need for a new stadium, and they proposed moving to Santa Clara. The A’s agreed cuz they thought this would make more San Franciscans (and surrounding wannabes) A’s fans. After this failed twice, the Giants threatened to move to St Petersburg, FL. When this failed and the team was sold to Magowan et. al, they finally got the China Basin/Phone Booth Park thing rolling. It comes with a hefty morgage which is why the Giants invest in guys like Randy Johnson (with his quest for 300 wins that was supposed to fill seats).
San Jose, with the prospering computer industry, has now become a coveted area and the Giants don’t want to give the A’s their territory back.
Truth is, the A’s don’t need the Giants to play nice. Slimeball Selig is a frat brother of Lew Wolff and all it takes are other owners (at the encouragement of Bud) to agree on the A’s —> Santa Clara county rights. It has happened before when the Baltimore Orioles owner objected to the Nationals moving to DC.
Finally, the question remains: Will the San Jose A’s, with reduced Oakland fans and San Jose fans that more or less like the Giants, work out well? Lew seems to think that “if you build it they will come.” Well, they won’t if they keep selling off our players as soon as they become expensive.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends how nice the stadium is. All A’s fans will readily admit that the Giants stadium is fantastic and a much nicer place to watch a ballgame. The A’s need something like that to lure casual fans.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In my experience, Niners/Giants have a more well-off fan base, which is why they have a large following in the South Bay…there are Raiders/A’s diehards down there too, but mostly in the East Bay. This is a huge generalization, but it does explain why the Niners moving down to the South Bay makes more sense than the As.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I go to a rich private school and I think there are a LOT more Giants fans.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought you hated generalizations!
by Yes We Cannon on Jun 9, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you trying to hook up Twist and HolmoePhobe?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Unlike you, he has.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven’t met you, but I’ve seen you on multiple occasions.
Have I been missing out?
by Yes We Cannon on Jun 9, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of witty banter? Yes!
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
by Yes We Cannon on Jun 10, 2009 12:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They should just build a baseball-only stadium in the Coliseum parking lot, tear down the Coliseum and let the 49ers and Raiders share the football only stadium in Santa Clara.
I haven't seen that many tear-stained dollar bills since my dad hired a stripper for my uncle's funeral.
by BearStage on Jun 10, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it depends on your definition of big city, but I’d go with Stockton or Fresno before San Jose.
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by norcalnick on Jun 9, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whoa now I didn’t go that far. San Jose, size wise, is one of the largest cities in the U.S. because in I believe the 60s and 70s they took up all the unincorporated land in Santa Clara County. It is a city of 300,000 that took up all the suburbs around it to make it a million. You can be like an hour from downtown on the outskirts even with minimal traffic.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I …. don’t think you really know what you’re talking about….
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah the last one was just throwing out a sensationalist thing. But it is massive. And they took up most of the unincorporated land in the county. I have some idea of what I am talking about. To lazy to actually research.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
During the 1950s and 1960s, city manager Dutch Hamann led the city in a major growth campaign. The city annexed adjacent areas, such as Alviso and Cambrian Park, providing large areas for suburbs. An anti-growth reaction to the effects of rapid development emerged in the 1970s championed by mayors Norman Mineta and Janet Gray Hayes. Despite establishing an urban growth boundary, development fees, and incorporations of Campbell and Cupertino, development was not slowed, but rather directed into already incorporated areas.
Led to a major population growth because there was so much fucking room. I still feel it is illegitimate.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Better paragraph
A. P. Hamann (nicknamed “Dutch”) became city manager in 1950. At the time, the city had a population of 95,280 and a total area of only 17 square miles. Hamann instituted an aggressive growth program by annexation of adjacent areas, such as Alviso and Cambrian Park, and a program of dispersed urbanization, called urban sprawl. Hamann also spent significant time on the East Coast, selling San Jose as an ideal place for businesses to expand into. Hamann’s efforts resulted in an annual population growth rate of over eight percent. When Hamann left office in 1969, San Jose had grown to 495,000 residents and 136 square miles.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you reciting Wikipedia word for word?
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
out loud!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep. I figured you guys would all know I was using Wikipedia. Plus when I put my own spin on it I got shot down.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can be like an hour from downtown on the outskirts even with minimal traffic.
No. Just no. I can get to downtown San Jose from fucking Berkeley in less than an hour if there were minimal traffic.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I said downtown when I really meant my house. But I decided not to share where I live (but it does border San Jose). I should have scratched that statement. Sorry.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Downtown=your house!?!?
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No. I don’t live in San Jose, thankfully. I also hate the odd SJ pride some people have. Also, the SJ Merc News thinks that San Jose is just an amazing city and is really drunk on the SJ kool-aid. A sports columnist, I think it was Mark Purdy, said this gem a few weeks ago when talking about the newspaper industry in the Bay (paraphrasing): The subscriptions to the Chronicle are now less than the Merc News. That’s good. You should always get the newspaper from the bigger city.
I was like, say what????
Needs an image.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t appreciate the slight about San Jose. So fuck you too.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Jun 9, 2009 9:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This crazy SJ pride!
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 9:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Toronto Raptors have acquired Reggie Evans from the Philadelphia 76ers for Jason Kapono.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Jun 9, 2009 11:19 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Sales of headbands in Toronto rise 1,000%.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody snapped into a Slim Jim: 3 missing, 20 hurt at Slim Jim plant
3 missing, 20 hurt in NC Slim Jim plant collapse:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090609/ap_on_re_us/us_nc_building_collapse
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by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So now the question is if I believe the word of Rob Stone means anything. I don’t know the answer to that question.
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by norcalnick on Jun 9, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno. He follows soccer a lot, way more than the average US sports fan. So I guess that counts for something?
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would disagree with “happy to qualify” since qualifying out of CONCACAF is so ridiculously easy. I would be happy by advancing out of the first round to the 16’s. Its all about the draw really. In ’06 the US was in the group of death with the Czechs, Italians and Ghana and got nailed when they played limply in 2 of the 3 games (US_Italy was the best match of the tourney IMO).
As for Rob Stone, he does a decent job and has covered the USMNT for years. He’s credible.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct me if I'm Wrong
But for World Cup groupings, aren’t the top 8 teams designated as de facto 1 seeds. These tend to be teams that are both good and have a large travelling fan base (Italy, England, Germany, etc.) Then the draw is set up so an additional strong team will be in each group, plus two lesser teams, eventually ending up with a group of: Argentina (1) Ukraine (2) Saudi Arabia (fodder) Trinidad and Tobago (fodder).
The problem for the American team is that Mexico draws the one seed, and the second and third place concacaf qualifiers are considered fodder, which is why you end up with a group like: Italy (1) Czech Rep. (2) USA (fodder) African Country (fodder, they also beat us)
Basically, isn’t it likely that the US will end up in a group of death again?
I could be totally wrong, and please correct me if I’m wrong.
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 1:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not exactly correct
There are 8 #1 seeds of which the home nation is automatically one of them (Hellooooooo South Africa!). This was called Pot A
The other teams were drawn based on geography:
Pot B: Unseeded South American, African and Oceania (8)
Pot C: Unseeded Euro teams (minus Serbia) (8)
Pot D: Unseeded Asia and Concacaf teams (7)
Serbia was drawn first and placed in a group that had a non Euro #1 seed to ensure no group had 3 Euro teams in it.
Fan base has nothing to do with seeding, theoretically results and world rankings do. In ’06 Mexico somehow was given a #1 which screwed the US over big time.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So when you say
Not exactly correct
you mean, pretty damn wrong
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty much
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 2:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thus, assuming the U.S. qualifies, the Yanks are guaranteed a first-round group that includes:
(a) one of the 8 seeds — either the host, a European giant, or Brazil or Argentina
(b) a middle-of-the road non-Euro team
© a middle-of-the-road Euro team
Theoretically, the U.S. loses to Team A, and advances to knockout play by getting results vs. B and C. Strangely, however, this hasn’t been the pattern, and the U.S. has advanced (1994, 2002) when it’s beaten the respective Team A of its group. The U.S. MNT will have truly arrived when it is able to consistently beat Team C.
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by California Pete on Jun 9, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why is only the middle of the road team copyrighted?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s an EU thing.
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by California Pete on Jun 9, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won USA-Brazil tickets in the ‘94 World Cup at Stanfurd Stadium. I won the tickets at a local grocery store. I was 12 and wasn’t that into soccer. My dad agreed to sell the 2 tickets for me for $1600. I bought a bike and roller blades…and the rest went into savings.
There’s a diehard Grecian in my lab…he thinks I’m a effin loon for selling those tickets.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wasn't that game on July 4th?
Kind of a dud if I remember correctly with the Brazilians having a man sent off then scoring a goal to win.
You are crazy to have missed that though. The 2 matches I saw in Palo Alto in ‘94 were two of the most mind numbingly awesome sporting events I’ve ever been to. Switzerland-Columbia was good but Brazil-Russia was absolutely insane. Think 2500 or so Russians in one section surrounded by 70,000 Brazilian fans and about 20,000 locals. Hundreds of flags waving all game long. Drums, whistles, singing and half naked chicks dancing in the stands the entire game.
After the game, the train back to downtown SF was rocking with the celebrating Brazilians going nuts. We got off the train and a fake trolley type bus was rolling down the street about 5 mph full of people and it had a conga line 4 fucking blocks long trailing it. The Brazilian team was based in SF so all 50,000 or so of their fans that came from Brazil stayed in town. Crazy, crazy party for like 2 weeks.
If there is one thing you do before you die, attend a World Cup match with Brazil involved. You won’t regret the expense and you’ll never, ever experience anything like it for the rest of your life. Other teams are great to see but Brazilia tops them all.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really want to go to a European soccer game with crazy fans someday. But I don’t particularly want to be stabbed, so it looks like I can’t wear a jersey. I don’t know how often that happens but there were like 5 stabbings in Rome during the lead-up to the Champions League Final
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just have to be smart about it. Don’t get drunk, don’t talk shit to the other teams fans and don’t run with the skinheads.
Easy
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch Green Street Hooligans
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Rec’d. And read Franklin Foer’s, How Soccer Explains the World.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Jun 9, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it is financially possible for you to study abroad while in college, that’s something I would strongly encourage.
I saw the Olympique Marseille vs. Paris-St. Germain rivalry in Marseille and the experience surpassed any American sporting event I’ve ever been to. The virage – think Raiders’ Black Hole, except consisting of around 40,000-50,000 fans – was so loud and forceful the entire stadium shook. They somehow sneak road flares into the game, and there was so much smoke that I think it actually contributed to one of the goals PSG scored. This is not to mention the various banners and flags that covered entire portions of the stands. Unrelated, but that same year, a match in Italy was canceled because the goalie was knocked out by the fans throwing road flares onto the field.
Likewise, they had to enclose completely the visiting fans section in chickenwire fencing because OM fans had a nasty habit of taking their cell phone batteries, or even just their cell phones, and throwing them into the opposing fans’ section.
by Nashville on Jun 9, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only have personally experienced Serie A. The closest thing we have to it in the U.S. is college football; the atmosphere is nothing like the NFL or other pro sports here in the States. Based on what I’ve seen on TV, though, the EPL appears to be creeping ever closer to the U.S. model.
And don’t worry about the violence. Very, very rarely is it random. Even in Italy, it’s easy to steer clear of trouble. That said, there is a history between the different fan bases, of which it makes sense to be aware. As a Genoa supporter, I’d feel very comfortable wearing my Rossoblu to a game against, say, Napoli or Torino. But against Milan, I’d be inclined to keep a lower profile.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Jun 9, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe it was on the 4th.
I wish I went now…it sounded like a totally unique experience.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
but so is owning a bike and roller blades. So, it evens out.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my specialized hard rock bike was later stolen out of my garage. My mom caught the perpetrator in the act but he hopped on my bike and took off. I believe she had a pot of broccoli in her hand (she was taking it outside to cool it down). I think she would have “kept it real” if she was close enough. She learned to keep it real after a thief broke into her house on Shattuck while she was at Cal and stole her family jewelry.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
pics or your mom’s a MILF
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by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would’ve killed for those tickets. Watching first-class Brazilian soccer is like watching eleven Mozarts composing a new crazy-ass symphony for ninety minutes.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
even when you were 12? I played keeper for my AYSO team, but that was about it. I sucked when the goal became 52 yards wide.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dominated as a 6 year old. Fo realz. I always claim that I was the best 6 year old goalie in the city of Vancouver. Then I moved to the U.S. and decided I no longer wanted to play. I don’t know why. I presume I would have sucked as the goals got larger too.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I played on grass for the first time in 15 years last night. The game is SOOOOOOO much slower. I went to accelerate, and nothing happened. The difference was like driving a ferrari vrs a civic.
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you usually play on?
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
turf
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do the pros play on turf?
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, they get beautiful lush green grass
though in Russia they play on ice, and in England the lush green grass often times turns into mud.
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Turf can be a bitch, since it can get really hot. Apparently for the state championships for lacrosse (my team went but I didn’t) in Folsom, it was like 100 degrees. And they were playing on turf. Jesus Christ.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
meth
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You may not have appreciated it as much when you were 12 as you would now.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
definitely. It was the right call at the time.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
World Cup atmosphere has to be seen to be believed
Over the top nationalism but really, really friendly people. Doesn’t matter where you’re from or what language you speak, if you are there to celebrate the game, you’ll be accepted like a long lost best friend and can party your ass off non stop for days at a time. Hedonistic to the extreme.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe I saw a woman with a painted on Brazil flag covering her upper torso in the parking lot at ’furd stadium.
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pics or was it a dude with manboobs.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Over the top nationalism but really, really friendly people.
Unless it’s the French. The French just stare at you condescendingly, then talk in French about how great France is. Then stare at you some more.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always found Parisians to be assholes
but the rest of frog nation to be very friendly. There’s a French guy on my Mens footy team and he’s confirmed that opinion. He hates the Parisians.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I won’t let you persecute me, PC thug!
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no time for PC nonsense. The French stereotype, however, is just plain dumb (particularly the “French military sucks” part of it).
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
(particularly the "French military sucks" part of it).
Please provide a list of French military victories that didn’t involve heavy American support.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 1:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
French Revolution?
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the French…against the French.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah. They won, didn’t they?
Imagine if France lost the French Revolution. That would have been HILARIOUS.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Robespierre and the Reign of Terror? Yeah, France lost that one too.
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by Berkelium97 on Jun 9, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Um, didn’t the French lose the French Revolution, to the French?
The The is above upsets.
by Maharg on Jun 9, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By that logic the British lost the American revolution to the British.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The French Revolution was between French factions, the American Revolution was between the colonists and British occupiers. There’s a clear distinction.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you define “factions” and “occupiers”? Both revolutions involved citizens revolting against the state. It’s exactly the same thing – the only difference is that in one case, the citizens in question were not based on the mainland of the state in question.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 2:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Americans were fighting for the creation of a separate nation, the French were fighting amongst each other for control of the same nation. How is it “exactly the same thing.”
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are arguing semantics
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hooray semantics!
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by Maharg on Jun 9, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boo apostrophes!
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh Ampersands!
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by Maharg on Jun 9, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have a poli sci degree…you should know better.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have you met me?
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by Maharg on Jun 9, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless...
The French revolutionaries and Napoleans Imperial period beat the crap out of the rest of Europe against huge odds for close to 25 years.
Indeed, if Napoleon hadn’t decided to invade Russia in 1812 (or had handled Spain differently in 1808-14), we might all be speaking French today.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean German.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not hardly
The Germany that caused so much trouble in the 20th century would never have formed abd would have remained a bunch of squabbling little city states.
Napoleon made a couple of critical errors in invading Russia (lost 500,000 soldiers) and botching Spain (constant drain on resources and troops for 6 years when they were originally an ally). If he handles those differently, history is changed dramatically. A classic “what if”
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Almost as classic as ‘How good is Cal basketball last year with Ryan Anderson’.
Almost.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had a botched spain once. Hurt like a bitch.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not denying the string of victories
But it’s important to point out that period was characterized not so much by the French vs. everyone but actually the French vs a select group of nations.
Thus, the whole period is described in close studies of the era as “1st War of the Coalition,” “2nd war of the coalition,” etc. It’s been a little while since I’ve studied the period, but I recall there being four or five such wars in all.
by Nashville on Jun 9, 2009 3:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously? You’re kidding, right? You do realize the world existed before 1940? (and for that matter, before 1776)
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please, join me in a round of “WHAAAAAAAAAAAA!?!?!?!?”
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 1:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally, the French OWNED the Iberian Peninsula in the Mesozoic…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just want us to google French Military Victories
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/images/blpic-frenchmilitaryvictories.htm
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh- The French were one of the World's dominant military powers until the end of WWI
But Napolean’s regin and the entire series of campaigns before his coronation were good examples. France vs Europe. France wins from 1789-1813. Not a bad record.
Also the generals under Louis XIV did pretty well.
France’s poor military reputation rests solely on the fact that they shit the bed in 1940. Oh well, outside of Britain, the rest of Europe did too.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly. And military prowess wasn’t even the main factor in our victory in the European theater.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Algeria—loss
Dien Bien Phu—loss
WWII—loss
WWI—draw, took the Americans to win it
Franco-Prussian war—loss
Napoleon—cool for about ten years, ended in disaster. Congrats, a dude not even from France proper (Corsica) conquered half of Europe before turning into a madman. That’d be like giving Germany credit for winning WWII.
War of the Spanish Succession—loss
Yorktown—mostly us, give the French a pat on the back
French-Indian War—loss
Italian Wars—loss
100 Years War—took a French village girl for France to stop from being totally conquered by the Brits.
Gallic Wars—Owned by Caesar
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I like how you use totally different definitions of “French” and “victory” for each of those examples.
Algeria wasn’t a war. If the Germans lost World War II, then by the same token the French must have won it. The “Napoleon wasn’t French” argument is just pathetic. The Gauls weren’t French. I could keep going, but you get the general idea.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Algeria wasn’t a war.
Yeah, how could I forget, since historians call it the ALGERIAN WAR.
If the Germans lost World War II, then by the same token the French must have won it.
You can’t be serious. The Free French won minor battles, but they were peripherals
The "Napoleon wasn’t French" argument is just pathetic.
Corsica is different from France. And Napoleon descended from minor Italian families. He is not a Frenchman proper.
The Gauls have generally been incorporated into the history of France. Take it up with the historians.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, how could I forget, since historians call it the ALGERIAN WAR.
Yes. That’s a name. If you want to include conflicts of that nature (as opposed to conflicts between sovereign states), it significantly complicates the discussion.
You can’t be serious. The Free French won minor battles, but they were peripherals
I don’t know what definition of victory you’re using. The French were on the winning side at the end of the war. By “winning” do you mean actually occupying territory?
Corsica is different from France. And Napoleon descended from minor Italian families. He is not a Frenchman proper.
So…anything Napoleon did isn’t part of French history? Even though he was fighting with mostly French troops on behalf of the French state?
Btw, the Duke of Wellington was Irish – since Ireland was part of the British Empire much like Corsica was part of France, does that mean that the British didn’t win the Battle of Waterloo?
The Gauls have generally been incorporated into the history of France. Take it up with the historians.
Not really. France as a state didn’t exist back then. They just occupied the same geographic area.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. That’s a name. If you want to include conflicts of that nature (as opposed to conflicts between sovereign states), it significantly complicates the discussion.
Okay, let’s narrow the definition to sovereign states, which would exclude Algeria. That would also exclude the Gallic Wars.
I don’t know what definition of victory you’re using. The French were on the winning side at the end of the war. By "winning" do you mean actually occupying territory?
The French were conquered in the Battle of France, then liberated during the Normandy campaign, PRIMARILY by American and British forces. They were not principal actors in the war after 1940.
I don’t look at winning as evenly distributed between all parties. In terms of battles between soverign states, I look at it in terms of who bore the brunt of the battle and did most of the winning on the field (so in WWII, Russia in Europe and the US in the Pacific were the primary victors). Perhaps you see it differently.
So…anything Napoleon did isn’t part of French history? Even though he was fighting with mostly French troops on behalf of the French state?
Btw, the Duke of Wellington was Irish – since Ireland was part of the British Empire much like Corsica was part of France, does that mean that the British didn’t win the Battle of Waterloo?
I concede the point here, that is true. My main point is that Napoleon won huge battles but lost the war because he never learned the limits to his power. If you don’t finish a campaign right, it wipes out the successes of the previous battles. You have to end things right. Great tactical battles, but in the end the Napoleonic Wars were a strategic defeat for the French military.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where did the French troops go during the war? Did they flee over the channel with the British when they were pushed back to the coast? Or did they give up and get absorbed into the general population?
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by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
…during WWII
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by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 3:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The majority remained with the Vichy government under Petain. There was a small faction under de Gaulle that grew over time to a few military divisions, and eventually expanded to the size of a French Army after the liberation of France. But they operated closely with American forces during most of their operations in France and the occupation of Bavaria (Operation Anvil, the liberation of Paris, the recapture of territory around Alsace-Lorraine).
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fun Fact (sort of incestously creepy too)
Both of my parents’ families originate from Alsace-Lorraine inspite of immigrating about 60 years apart.
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good times! Was that back when Germany & France were fighting over it?
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 3:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
During the first wave of immigration it was in German, then during the second it was in France’s. Or so I’m told.
My grandfather crossed the pond in 1911, because his family members could see WWI was brewing, and wanted to get him out. Furthermore, the cathloic church had just stole a bunch of my family’s land, by preventing my grandfather’s uncle from writing a will while he was on his deathbed (he was on his death bed for about a year, and they prevented him from contacting a lawyer or any family members) thus without a direct heir, the church assumed control of the property.
Also, I know for a fact he had uncles serving as officers for both France and Germany in WWI.
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I should note, this is predominantly based on family lore
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 3:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
also, i apologize for the horrible first paragraph
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This could be kind of a cool DBD. How did your ancestors get here? Could be rougher for some more than others, though.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
My dad tried to track down our relatives in Europe once, and he was able to find the boat that my grandfather came over on plus the dparture date, but beyond that we had nothing.
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by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 4:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey at least you have fucking countries your people come from. A lot of the countries my people come from arent even in existence anymore. I think Im like 3/4ths Prussian with a dash of Austro-Hungarian mixed in.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, at least you had countries to begin with. My great grandpa’s family came from Phobos and my mom’s side came from Deimos
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My dad is from Caprica and my mom is from New Caprica.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, I’m afraid to make snarky comments that aren’t spoilerific.
by turkey on Jun 10, 2009 9:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mom loves the genealogy stuff. My application to the Mayflower society is currently being put together.
by turkey on Jun 9, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both my parents’ families are from Mississippi, both of which moved to California independently, where my parents met.
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by BearStage on Jun 10, 2009 12:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My main point is that Napoleon won huge battles but lost the war because he never learned the limits to his power. If you don’t finish a campaign right, it wipes out the successes of the previous battles. You have to end things right. Great tactical battles, but in the end the Napoleonic Wars were a strategic defeat for the French military.
I totally agree with you. I just don’t see how this is even remotely evidence for the French military sucking. Quite the contrary.
Lots of people have made the comparison between Napoleon and Hitler (strategically), but nobody seems to think the German military sucked…
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good reason for that
France in 1800 had 40 million people. Just an absolutely enormous advantage over all the other European states which translated into a military advantage. Because the Loire River Valley and Ile de France regions are some of the most fertile farm regions in the world, they’ve always had agricultural advantages resulting in much larger population advantages that most other European countries, esp. Germany, have lacked.
By contrast, Germany, while a populous country, relied on its incredible tactical advantage, something Hitler ignored to his eventual – and deserved – defeat. World War II by John Keegan lays out just how close the Germans came to breaking Russia in the Autumn of 1941 and again in the Spring of 1942.
by Nashville on Jun 9, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surely you’re not arguing that French military success was solely a product of a larger population base?
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he’s not. And don’t call me Shirley.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 3:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joey, do you like movies about gladiators?
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 3:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joey, have you ever seen a grown man naked?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 7:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It is a factor that cannot be discounted. It’s obviously not the sole explanation, but when the French (like the Union in the War Between the States or the Russians in WWII) could afford to waste, or at least be spendthrift, with their soldiers lives it allowed for greater tactical possibilities that didn’t accrue to other nations.
In WWI 6 out of every 10 Frenchmen were maimed or killed. That forever, or at least in 1940, broke their population advantage and helps explain why they were able to withstand four years of German advances in WWI but lost in six weeks in 1940.
by Nashville on Jun 9, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sort of agree and disagree. Yes, the French army wasn’t as strong as it was in 1914, but with the British in tow and the Belgians in front of them they were still numerically on equal terms with the Germans, and if they hadn’t overreached they might have fought another protracted campaign. They were simply outmanuevered; they made the miscalcuation that the Germans were doing a frontal assault through Belgium and fell right into the Panzer trap.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
British in tow
Whether intended or not, that was an excellent pun considering their experience at Dunkirk.
Belgians in front of them
Correct me if I’m wrong but the Belgians didn’t contest the Germans nearly as strongly in WWII as they did in WWI.
if they hadn’t overreached they might have fought another protracted campaign.
That’s my whole point. France had neither the manpower nor especially the willpower to fight another protracted war against the Germans. They made plenty of tactical errors (Who needs an air force? We’ve got the Maginot Line!), but France was not capable of opposing the Germans on equal footing again.
by Nashville on Jun 9, 2009 4:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The French really screwed up when they didn’t invade Germany in September 1939 (with most of the army busy with Poland). They had a FREAKING 2 to 1 advantage, could’ve run their crappy tank units over the Rhine, and ended the war right then.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
World War II by John Keegan
I love that book. It’s sitting right next to me right now.
But to say Napoleon won his early battles due to population advantages is a little silly. He tended to do better with smaller maneuverable forces then with larger forces (which ended up failing in Spain and Russia).
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 3:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re a fan of that I would also recommend Why the Allies Won by Richard Overy. Those were my two favorite books from my WWII class.
But to say Napoleon won his early battles due to population advantages is a little silly. He tended to do better with smaller maneuverable forces then with larger forces (which ended up failing in Spain and Russia).
Fair enough. I may have overreached with that. But looking at it from a different perspective, how many countries could afford to tie up 1 million soldiers attempting to govern Spain while still launching offensives across Europe? I think that’s a better way of making their population advantage comprehensible.
by Nashville on Jun 9, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not many, but the bigger issue is that Napoleon didn’t make friendly with the countries his forces occupied. If he’d been more conciliatory to Spain (and I believe Austria and Prussia), the countries might have coexisted more peacefully rather than resorting to armed rebellion.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to be stubborn, but while your point is undeniably valid, and probably describes a scenario in which French becomes more than the lingua franca (intended, but terrible. I know), it works in support of my line of argument.
Napoleon didn’t make friendly with those countries because he didn’t need to, because France had 1 million troops to spare on something as silly as pacifying Spain. In fact, though I have no special knowledge as to whether or not this is the cause, you might reasonably surmise that Napoleon’s poor post-conquest diplomatic policies were a direct result of him having such a population advantage that he didn’t need to engage in that sort of thing.
by Nashville on Jun 9, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He most certainly needed to when he invaded Russia. Once he became vulnerable Prussia, Austria and Spanish guerrillas pretty much trashed up his army.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 4:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I totally agree with you. I just don’t see how this is even remotely evidence for the French military sucking. Quite the contrary.
I think the issue is that when we say French military, we mean French military leaders. The military’s fate is often tied into the strategic decisions of its leaders.
The fighting morale of the soldiers has been up and down with the French. I recall stories from the Second World War that the French colonists (Indochinese, North African forces) fought with more vigor in the Battle of France than the French themselves, which just seems crazy.
Lots of people have made the comparison between Napoleon and Hitler (strategically), but nobody seems to think the German military sucked…
Definitely. Outside of the age of Bismarck, the Germans haven’t won many wars either.
As for the Hitler-Napoleon comparisons, it’s a little different. Napoleon was a strategic master and military mind first, but he let his successes get to his head. Hitler didn’t have much of a strategic mind at all, especially when it came to the battlefield; he was tentative and stubborn and ultimately it kept him from achieving total victory.
It’s not a coincidence Germany’s downslide began the moment Hitler took direct command of the army in December 1941.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 3:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely. Outside of the age of Bismarck, the Germans haven’t won many wars either.
Are you being technical with this because Germany wasn’t a proper country until 1871? The Holy Roman Empire (neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire) was one of Europe’s largest for centuries. After that the Prussian Junkers were world renown for their general martial ethos, Clausewitz being one excellent example.
by Nashville on Jun 9, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now we’re getting into really shaky territory…given that the peoples and rulers of all these states (France, HRE, post-Norman-invasion England) were all interrelated.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Germany is strange because technically its military tradition comes from the Prussians. But I’m thinking of Germany proper 1870 to the present. If you include the Prussian tradition into German military history their success is more even handed than the French.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm....actually
They were bailed out by a csarina’s death in the Seven Years War. They got whipped pretty badly by Napoleon and needed Russia’s entrance to beat them decisively. They did win the Silesian War though.
Technically though, the last war the Germans won was in 1870.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Great Battle of Avinashville
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
by GoldBlooded on Jun 9, 2009 6:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m trying to decide if a CGB Risk competition would be incredibly fun or result in some sort of murder/suicide.
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by norcalnick on Jun 9, 2009 6:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah that would end badly.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CGB Settlers Of Cattan would be better!
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about CGB Axis and Allies
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by chowder on Jun 10, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love CGB Hungry Hungry Hippos.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 10, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe CGB Truth or Cougar?
The The is above upsets.
by Maharg on Jun 10, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and I particularly like how you start with the (non-French) Gauls, then proceed to ignore 900 years of French history.
by HolmoePhobe on Jun 9, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also liked that.
This is one of the more surreal arguments in the DBD. And thats fucking saying something. F’realz yo. F’realz.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Have Avinash and HP met? I think it would be catastrophic if they did. I am putting the over/under at 145 casualties.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Italian Wars: Lost
Wars to the Hugenots: Lost 5 of them, cease fire on another four.
So you have the Franks (which was literally a millenia ago), and you have Louis XIV. And then a lot of pain. Vive la France!
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This definitely seems like one of those internet discussions where one of you will concede defeat, admit you were wrong, and agree with your opponent.
Definitely.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Concession of defeat in an internet argument? Never!
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by Berkelium97 on Jun 9, 2009 2:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I concede defeat. Spazzy wins the argument.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yaaaaaayyyyyyy
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
which county is next on your Your California series?
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sure…I have 3 options.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
can a brotha get a teasing preview? Can I play guess-a-county?
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by carp on Jun 9, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
prognosis negative…I think the randomness is more fun. but I’m happy you like the writeups!!!!!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Jun 9, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Make him a theme song that’s a parody of the “Where-In-The-World-And-When-In-Time-Is-Stephen-Colbert-Going-To-Be-In-The-Persian-Gulf?” song. Maybe then he’ll let us play.
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by BearStage on Jun 10, 2009 12:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Please do napa!
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh?
Avinash my friend, you are smoking some serious crack. Stop hating the French. Eat some fries or toast or something.
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by Fire Starkey on Jun 9, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Start hating people from Quebec instead.
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by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
French fries came from Belgium; they call them Belgian fries in France. French toast is from Medieval times; they’re not sure if it’s originally from France or England.
by Avinash on Jun 9, 2009 3:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Avinash, you totally rocked this post….rec’d
Jahvid Best is so awesome, he makes me want to strangle a mountain ox with my bare hands!
by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Too long to read, need bullet points.
The The is above upsets.
by Maharg on Jun 9, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Algeria—loss
Dien Bien Phu—loss
Fine to include these as defeats so long as you also acknowledge that France was victorious for the 120 years preceding that (Algeria) and 100 years prior (French Indochina).
by Nashville on Jun 9, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Spanish teacher spent a few years in Spain. He said some local team won the soccer championship, and every single person in that city had a bottle of champagne. He said old people would grab you and like force champagne down your throat.
While the rides on the Pain Train and Brock Mansion Party Yacht have been fun, I think its time I hop on the BakBakcycle.
by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My cousin’s neighbor had a friend who spent a few years in Spain. He said some local team lost the soccer championship, and every single person in that city gave up drinking champagne. He said old people would never force things down your throat.
Jahvid Best is so awesome, he makes me want to strangle a mountain ox with my bare hands!
by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 2:57 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
He said old people would never force things down your throat.
MUST………….CONTROL…………..SARCASM
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My French teacher spent a few years in Spain too. He said some local team never even played in the soccer championship, and every single person in the city had a bottle of champagne. He said old people would grab you and like force sarcasm down your throat.
Jahvid Best is so awesome, he makes me want to strangle a mountain ox with my bare hands!
by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am pretty lost here. Is that what you wanted?
While the rides on the Pain Train and Brock Mansion Party Yacht have been fun, I think its time I hop on the BakBakcycle.
by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 3:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t that what we all want?
Jahvid Best is so awesome, he makes me want to strangle a mountain ox with my bare hands!
by dballisloose on Jun 9, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah…
While the rides on the Pain Train and Brock Mansion Party Yacht have been fun, I think its time I hop on the BakBakcycle.
by rollonubears on Jun 9, 2009 3:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DID SOMEBODY SAY BOBBY JINDAL OIL PAINTING?
Oh. No. Oh, I see, that was Robby Spin, Fall, Mohel Fainting. Yes, the story of how Robby Spin ruined his son’s briss.
Well, fuck it, you are getting the painting:
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 3:01 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
“Unfortunately, I no longer feel I can offer the level of enthusiasm to my duties that is deserved by the university, my coaching staff, my players, their families, and the supporters of Southern Cal,” the letter said. “I always promised myself and my family that if I ever felt I could no longer give my full enthusiasm to a job, that I should leave it to others who could. I intend to contact my coaching staff and my players in coming days and weeks to tell them how much each of them means to me. I wish the best to USC and to my successor.”
Whose domicile? OUR DOMICILE!
by Berkelium97 on Jun 9, 2009 4:23 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Pics or the French conquered Tim Floyd, finally winning SOMETHING!
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be a lot cooler if it were Pete.
We all dream of being a child again, even the worst of us, the worst... perhaps... most of all.
by chowder on Jun 9, 2009 4:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you kidding me? I’m not quitting my job, certainly not in this economy. … Oh, you meant the other Pete.
Go Bears!
by California Pete on Jun 9, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimmy Boy Harbaugh and Ricky Neu have chimed in.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 4:46 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
How long do you think your accounts are going to last before twitter shuts you down?
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Jun 9, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No idea. As long as we dont befriend the REAL Jim Harbaugh, hopefully well be OK.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shut down?
No, Twitter will just rename you as FakeJimHarbaugh and FakeRickNeuheisel.
I know, I follow FakeDanWieden and FakeDavidStern
by LeonPowe on Jun 9, 2009 7:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That might explain the Fake GreG Shciano.
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by TwistNHook on Jun 9, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
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