CGB Meme Invitational - Loving Riley (8) v. Loving Longshore (9)
by TwistNHook on May 9, 2009 6:30 AM PDT
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PrintHere is the 8 v. 9 matchup. Marshawnthusiasts loving Longshore v. Olsonist/CaliSeth loving Riley. Read the information behind the fold and then vote in the poll.
Well, here we go. The never-ending battle. Riley v. Longshore. They did it on the real field and essentially battled to a draw. A painful draw.
But here we have it again. In meme form! Who is better? People who love Longshore or people who love Riley?
These two memes haven't flared up in a while, because the battle is over between the two QBs. But in 2007-2008 it raged on and on and on. People accused us of having a pro-Longshore bias. CaliSeth/Olsonist led the "Riley at all costs, because Longshore is History's Greatest Monster" brigade.
So, was Longshore History's Greatest Monster? Read the info and then vote!
CaliSeth/Olsonist Loving Riley (8) via Ragnarok
In the aftermath of the Callapse of '07 and Kevin Riley's savior-like performance in the Armed Forces Bowl, it was practically inevitable that 2008 would be the year of the Great Quarterback Debate. While us Marshawnthusiasts idly continued polishing our giant golden statue of Nate Longshore, and Coach Tedford flip-flopped between starters almost willy-nilly, a few brave souls boldly stood behind the candidate with just seven quarters of collegiate experience. Leading that charge was Olsonist and CaliSeth, 'zealots extraordinaire'. I'll let them speak here in their own words.
First up: CaliSeth.
Seriously though, I don’t hate Longshore that much. In fact I don’t hate him at all. From all that I have heard he’s a stand up guy. I just think he had his chance. It’s time for change. Even Obama has endorsed Riley. How can anyone go against the mantra of change in our current environment?
Vote Riley 08!
by CaliSeth on Jun 18, 2008 11:28 PM PDT 
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How do you go about appearing more unhinged than a self-proclaimed 'homicidal psychopath' like CaliSeth? Check out Olsonist:
If something bad happened to Nate, something, you know, unfortunate, I’d need an alibi. Don’t even get me started, I’m not rational about it. My buddy who I go to games with is a Longshore fan. I just can’t understand it. We’ve been to the same games. If Longshore gets named starter for the Michigan State game, I just don’t think I can go.
I like what I’ve seen of Riley and his progress and I wouldn’t mind three years of that.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on Jun 18, 2008 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd like to just take this opportunity to point out that these comments all stem from a post entitled 'Let's Not Say Things We Can't Take Back Now'.
When Riley is finally named the starter for the Michigan State game, the rejoicing (and gloating, and unreasonable expectations) begins:
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, pooooooooooooor lil Twisty )-;
Do I detect some disappointment, Twist? :-) This must really make you depressed after your vigorous off season campaign of spin and lies to have Longshore reinstalled as the starter. (-: How are you feeling? Do you need a hug? Someone give Twist a hug!
Behold A New And Brighter Future – Our Savior – Kevin Riley
by CaliSeth on Aug 22, 2008 3:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's to you, CaliSeth and Olsonist, the founding members of the PRileytariat. May we all prosper in 2009!
Marshawnthusiasts Loving Longshore (9) via HydroTech
It all started in 2007. Cal lost to Oregon State. Then to UCLA. Then to Arizona State. Then Cal only beat Washington State by 3 points which might as well count as a failure and a loss too. Then Cal lost to USC. Then to Washington. Then to Stanfurd.
Who was to blame for this epic fall from #2?
The easy target was Longshore. He holds the ball. Everyone watches the guy with the ball. So when the guy with the ball throws an INT, everyone blames him. But what about the WRs? They sometimes mis-read the coverage or run the wrong route. But what about the OL? Sometimes they wiff on blocks.
HydroTech tried to demonstrate that the guy who throws the INT, isn't always quite 100% at fault. HydroTech suggested that other players on the field were making errors too, but those errors were less noticable because most fans don't watch players away from the ball. Some Cal fans bought this ridiculous explanation hook line and sinker. Others, most notably, Olsonist and CaliSeth saw through the smoke screen. Despite HydroTech saying that Longshore was a nice guy and always smelled nice, Olsonist and CaliSeth said he tortured flies by plucking off their wings, and that Longshore reeked of alcohol. Things escalated and got personal. HydroTech said Longshore was a hard worker. Olsonist and CaliSeth said HydroTech's gatorade mixing skills sucked.
Pretty soon Cal fans were on to HydroTech and the rest of the Marshawnthusiasts. It was SOOOOOOOOO obvious that HydroTech was either Longshore's wife, a friend or relative of Longshore, or.... Longshore had pictures of HydroTech naked and was blackmailing Hydro.
The Cal fans would ask, "Hydro, why are you always defending Longshore? Are you related to him?" Or "Hydro, why do you want to cup Longshore's balls?"
Everyone knows that the real answer is because the Marshawnthusiasts love Longshore very much and are all like totally BFFs with him!~ <3
Perhaps the Marshawnthusiasts should really be calling themselves the Longshorites or the Longshorethusiasts.
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This is a hard one but it's got to be the Longshore one
Why? Because almost everyone in the Cal fandom hated you guys for it
In other words, Go Bears!
Well, that doesnt make me feel good about myself as a human being.
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Not helping!
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I mean “lawyer”.
Damnit, my god damn fat fucking fingers. They always get in the way of good jokes. We’ll I’ve just about had enough of these sonsofbitches. If they make one more fucking mistake, IT’S OVER for them. I’ll sever them off slowly. It will hurt them so bad, they’ll wish they were just shot off instead.
It’s spelled "S-H-U-M-W-O-W"
I think it’s more accurate to say that people hated me. I was the only one supporting and defending Longshore. As far as I know, none of the other Marshawnthusiasts really expressed their position on the issue. However, despite the fact that we constantly say that the views of one Marshawnthusiast do not represent the views of other Marshawnthusiasts nor the view of the CGB itself, people began generalizing that all of the Marshawnthusiasts supported Longshore.
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Hey ever since I saw DeSean not try and bring down Alteran Verner in the UCLA INT I've been on your side.
In other words, Go Bears!
Actually, Desean was by far our best route runner
And is proving it in the pros. That Verner route might’ve been the only mistake I remember, who knows.
Hawkins and Jordan struggled much more with the fundamentals.
Bork bork bork!
by Avinash Kunnath on May 10, 2009 6:09 AM PDT up reply actions
After re-watching some games it seemed to me that some of DJax’s biggest plays were when the corner’s were either burnt by his speed/side steps or stumbled. Of course I’m referring to Chung and Byrd.
But I agree his route running skills in the NFL is great which leads me to think that our WR coaches are meh.
In other words, Go Bears!
That’s also when I think I turned sour on Desean.
I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.
by rollonubears on May 10, 2009 8:04 AM PDT up reply actions
PS We never did find out why Hydro wanted to cup Longshore’s balls.
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As far as I know, none of the other Marshawnthusiasts really expressed their position on the issue.
Silence is acquiescence.
In fact, as Twisted, a practicing attorney should well know, the common law doctrine of estoppel by acquiescence is applied when one party gives legal notice to a another of a claim, and the second party fails to challenge or refute that claim within a reasonable time. Twisted, CBKWIT, Ragnarok and Yellow Fever all knew at the that Longshore sucked. They could have said as much or disagreed but they didn’t. What were they hiding?
Was this approval or was this omertà?
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
I see a few problems with what you’re saying. While I’m not a lawyer and do not know all these fancy latin phrases which you do, it seems like this doctrine is really meant to apply to two parties, one of which is communicating with the other, with the expectation that the other party will or must communicate back.
Thus, there are a few problems with applying this doctrine to this situation. The first problem is that the other Marshawnthusiasts were not a second/opposing party to my statements. Alternatively, one might think that the non-Marshawnthusiast readers are the real second/opposing parties to my statements. However it is problematic to say that because if we apply this doctrine to this situation then everyone who reads my words could be found to acquiesce to my words just because they didn’t respond. That seems illogical and overbroad. That brings me to my second point. It seems like there should be some sort of duty for the second/opposing party to respond. The other Marshawnthusiasts certainly don’t have a duty to respond to everything either of us writes and say “This is my stance on the issue…” Nor do any readers of the blog have any duty to respond. People may respond if they wish to do so.
So while I see what you’re saying, I think the application of that doctrine to this situation is problematic and would lead to erroneous conclusions.
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Yeah, you do bring up a good point there, Hydro. Even though I am a co-author for this blog, at no time were Hydro’s posts ever addressing me or my other co-authors; moreover, none of us Marshawnthusiasts ever exercise editorial control over one another. Hydro can say what he damn well pleases, and regardless of our stance on the issue, our collective silence should not be considered a silent assent.
Still, I think Olsonist has a point, too. While Hydro does not necessarily speak for me, as an active member of the Cal blogosphere, it certainly would be odd if I disagreed with Hydro’s stance on the issue, yet did not bother to write a post in responses. Heck, starting a ‘blog fight’ with my own co-author could be an easy traffic-driving stunt; if there’s one thing the Internet loves, it’s controversy. The fact that I did no such thing gives reasonable minds the right to assume that I agreed with Hydro’s stance, I should think.
For what it’s worth, I always generally agreed with HydroTech’s stance on the QB issue, if not necessarily the finer nuances. I never felt that Longshore was as bad as he seemed in the second half of the 2007 season, thinking that injury just had to play a part in his precipitous drop in production from the previous season, and indeed, from the first half of the season. On the flip side, I was skeptical that Kevin Riley’s stellar performance in the Armed Forces Bowl would be easily repeatable; it seemed to me that we might collectively be putting too much stock in far too small a sample size. At the risk of alienating readers with a baseball example, I’ll simply ask if any of you remember Kevin Maas? He was the bees’ knees during the second half of 1990, and was supposed to be the next great Yankee, but alas, it didn’t work out that way, and he faded back into the minors and obscurity.
However, my personal evaluations of the quarterbacks was always secondary. Primarily, I continued to question, as Hydro did, that if Riley was indeed the superior quarterback, why he couldn’t seize the starting job from Longshore. All of the charges of favoritism on Tedford’s part never really felt totally plausible to me. Mistaken judgment, perhaps, though I feel that Tedford has long since earned some deference from the fans in regards to his judgment, based on his years of success with quarterbacks. Furthermore, as a humble blogger who was not granted access to practices, I really lacked almost any evaluative basis to judge the ongoing quarterback competition. I couldn’t see how they performed in practice, and as the competition dragged on, unfortunately my best — and only — answer remained ‘In Tedford We Trust’, and if He said Longshore deserved to start, then Longshore must be the superior quarterback. A cop out answer from a pundit, perhaps, but it was the only honest one I could give.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on May 10, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
On the general issue of Longshore, after he got crunched at Oregon he was never the same because he was never the same. Never a strong thrower, without a right foot to plant on he was easy pickings. The guy was shooting up before the game because he was injured and then the drugs wore off in the second half. He said as much. Maybe we didn’t notice this but the opposing teams watching film figured it out pretty quickly.
Looking back at the collapse of 2007, Tedford was wrong. He should have given Riley some playing time both because Riley deserved it and if only to take some of the pressure off a clearly injured Longshore. As I’ve pointed out numerous times, Riley only found out he was starting minutes before the OSU game. Tedford was having a hard time changing his mind. This is a reasonable inference to make.
If Tedford were perfect we’d win every game and score on every play. He’s very good but less than perfect. In hind sight and with the facts in view, He made a mistake. So what?
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
Look, we aren’t discussing Riley v. Longshore. We’re discussing you loving Riley v. us loving Longshore. As a meme.
We discussed 2007 ad nauseum. In 2007. And then 2008. Its 2009. Either pick your side in the 3 way death match Riley v. Mansion v. Sweeney (ANYBODY WHO PICKS MANSION IS MORALLY INCORRECT ABOUT LIFE), talk more about the you loving Riley v. us loving Longshore meme, or stop whining. Your choice.
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You disgust me.
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I don’t think I like the new Twist.
I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.
by rollonubears on May 11, 2009 6:45 AM PDT up reply actions
And it’s not like the old Twisted was a world beater either.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
by Olsonist on May 11, 2009 7:21 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
Some of these meme matchups are so confusing to me.
I mean who the fuck am I supposed to vote for here?
I really loved Caliseth’s drunk ramblings about Riley, Longshore and how Brett Favre is the biggest douche ever. At the same time, I thought Hydro’s infatuation with Nate’s balls was laughable and entertaining. So who wins? I don’t know, they’re both entertaining in their own right.
Can I just write in Brock Mansion’s Party boat ?
"Stanford has no fear of losing versus Cal, as they have done so every year but one for the last 20 years. They are, however, very afraid to get injured and indeed fear for their safety." - Furd Rugby Coach on forfeiting 2001 Rugby game vs. Cal
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