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Coach Tedford the Playcaller: Part III

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"Sometimes you have to find an unconventional method to screw in a lightbulb."

In our theoretical discussion about Cal football, Hydro and I discussed in Part I the basic playcalling conventions Tedford has gone about beating USC . In Part II we talked more about playcalling balance and whether Cal should run and pass the ball an equal amount in playing the Trojans. We conclude our discussion with a final talk about trick plays and their place in California's offense last season...and whether they are used enough against our most fearsome foe.

Hydrotech: I think Cal did bring some unconventional to the game.  Perhaps the wildcat isn't unconventional any more but we tried that.  We also broke out a few new formations during the game.  We certainly were saving some looks for USC to catch them off guard but we just got bogged down on our own penalties to really be even 75% effective. 

Avinash: Yeah, but we tried the Wildcat in a weird, low-risk environment (3rd down and 4 on the first drive in our own territory). Of course the execution was completely wrong. 

2008 is a decent example of unconventional playcalling going completely wrong. Do you think in the future Tedford should try to mix it up or try to out-USC the Trojans by playing a conventional pro-style game that they usually show against other Pac-10 opponents?

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Hydrotech (continued): I think Tedford should do what he thinks is best.  I'm not going to quite say that he needs to be more conventional or unconventional against USC.  I don't think Cal needs to be more unconventional against USC just because it's USC.  Cal isn't like The Citadel taking on Miami.  Cal doesn't need to get overly fancy and throw every trick in the book and resort to crazy hail-mary/roll-the-dice types of plays.  Cal can play its usual game, its usual offense, to beat USC.

My point is that sure we're offensively not as talented as USC's defense, but we're not so out-talented that we need to get crazy.  To illustrate my point with numbers, Cal's offense is like an 8.  USC's defense is like a 10.  The Citadel is like a 1.  For The Citadel to beat the USCs and Miamis of the world, they need to get crazy.  Perhaps even crunk.

Avinash: However, we did try the flea-flicker against UCLA. The hook and ladder against the Furd. The wide receiver pass against Oregon State. You could argue that without those types of plays we have a much tougher time in our first two games, and get blown out by OSU. Wouldn't this suggest more trickery was needed against tougher opponents?

What I'm trying to say is doesn't Tedford seem to take more chances against moderate opponents while staying true to form against the tougher teams like Oregon and USC?

Hydrotech: Cal did use trickery against USC.  It wasn't the stereotypical "trick plays" which most people think of, but Cal did use the fake-screen play (the TD pass to Vereen that was negated).  Again, this sort of brings us back to the whole "what is a 'trick play'?"  While this isn't a "trick play" in the lay man's definition of the word, it is a deception play - just like flea flickers and hook and ladders.  So my point is that while the lay man might not consider the fake-screen play a "trick play", the lay man is wrong.  Fake-screens are "trick plays," and thus Cal did use "trickery."  


I am putting "trick plays" and "trickery" in quotes because as I've already discussed in previous posts, I do not believe there are such things as "trick plays."  

Avinash: I feel trick plays are something that is either not a conventional drop back pass or a variation of a handoff from quarterback to running back; in other words, something that relies on an additional action you don't expect in football. While all plays are designed within a  particular gameplan, we feel much different about flea flickers and wide receiver passes and hook and ladders than we do about other plays (like say the Vereen swing route on the nullified TD at USC).

All trick plays are of course deception, but I think we call them tricks because of the reactions they engage from the fans watching in the stands.

Do you feel Coach Tedford and Ludwig should use trick plays on offense to beat USC? Like Hydro, do you feel there are no such things as "trick plays" and it's merely a battle of mirrors? And what were your favorite "trick plays" in 2009?

 

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What was your favorite trick play of the 2008 Cal football season?
Riley flea-flicker to Boateng versus UCLA.
26 votes
Ross wide receiver pass to Boateng at Oregon State.
12 votes
Best hook and ladder from Tucker in the Big Game.
128 votes
Another play that hasn't been mentioned (be sure to talk about it in the comments!)
1 votes

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The WR pass was my favorite, mostly because the receivers came out in a diamond formation and you knew something was up.

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by rollonubears on May 22, 2009 7:05 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Citadel or California?

1. I think that is the most interesting question. If Cal has no chance to knock of USC, and plays conservatively just to keep the game close and hope for a lucky break, then I am all for pulling out all the stops. (A-11 anyone? OK, maybe more on-side kicks and going for it on fourth down.) On the other hand, if Cal is in the same league as USC but not quite as good, then calculated risks based on contradicting tendencies should complement game planning, execution, and talent development to put you on the road to success.

2. Malcolm Gladwell suggests that the David needs to be very out-of-the-box to take on goliath, and has an entertaining article with anecdotes and a few calculations. To save you reading time, he illustrates his point by showing how less talented teams that operate a full court press the whole game can take more talented teams out of their game, and fluster them, creating a chance to win where orthodox strategies would doom them to failure.

http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2009/05/11/090511fa_fact_gladwell?printable=true

3. From my own perspective, think back to the Loyola Marymount basketball team of ’88 – ’90 (Bo Kimble and Hank Gathers under the direction of Paul Westhead.) Fun style to play, fun to watch, and it helped the team over-perform (elite 8, even after Gathers RIP.) Eventually, though LMU was clinically disected by superior talent and careful coaching. As LMU talent faded, the style of play failed and life became less interesting.

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by Jake88 on May 22, 2009 7:08 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think the basketball analogy carries over well to football. In hoops, a distinctive style of play can take a more talented opponent out of its comfort zone. That is, to a significant degree, on both offense and defense a basketball team can dictate the tempo of a game—slow down a transition team, speed up a half-court team.

In football, I think the only way to really do this is on offense, by going to a no-huddle or trotting out crazy formations. Yes, you can blitz a whole bunch to try to upset a precision passing attack, and you can “stack the box” to try to shut down a run game. But we’re kind of off-topic, aren’t we? Rather than play calling, we’re now into the more general area of game planning.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on May 22, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have to go with the Best-Tucker combo.

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by Rated-R Superstar on May 22, 2009 8:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What is it with Hydro and terminology?

Hydro really need to get over this thing of worrying too much about the dictionary definition of words when used in a football context. Yes, there’s lots of trickery in regular plays, but everybody knows what a trick play is. But since Hydro needs to get all technical, how’s this for a definition: any intentional play where some number other than two players touch the ball after the snap (i.e either 1 (wildcat) or 3 or more (half-back pass, hook and ladder, etc.)). One catch on that definition is the option would be a trick play when the QB keeps it but not when he pitches it… but more or less, I think the definition works.

by kencraw on May 22, 2009 9:11 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I like this definition, Ken

Hydro is right: all play calling is (or at least should be) grounded in a game-long (even season-long) strategy of deceiving opponents. Giving them something they don’t expect. Thus, the notion of a “trick play” may not be all that helpful.

But while conventional (for lack of a better label) play calling attempts to be deceptive over a whole series of plays, what we fans commonly see as “trick” plays stand out all by themselves, regardless of down, distance, score, field position, tendencies, etc.. And the reason they do so—just as you note, Ken—is because the play is designed to have an unconventional number of players touch the ball. Since almost every play involves two touches (after the center), anything other than two is almost always surprising or “tricky”.

Should Cal use more of these? I don’t know. Depends on the opponent, the personnel, the game situation. In 2009, any play that gets the ball in Jahvid Best’s hands will be a welcome play call as far as I’m concerned. I really don’t care how many other players touch the ball before or after him—as long as they’re all wearing Blue and Gold!

Go Bears!

by California Pete on May 22, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it's a noble, if perhaps overzealous, effort by Hydro

I think he’s trying to dispel common misconceptions regarding football, and educate us all regarding what’s actually going on. He’s got a point in that the use of the term ‘trick play’ is problematic, since it implies that there are ‘non-trick plays’ which don’t involve any deception, which isn’t really true. Still, I agree with you that ‘everybody knows what a trick play is’.

I actually rather like your definition; it seems like a good catch-all definition, though I’m not sure it would cover certain types of fake kicks. Here’s my definition; how do you think it compares?

Or, alternately, every play is a trick play, because they all involve deception in some manner.

However, I think we can all agree that there is some ‘layman’ definition of what a trick play is, and that such a category is a real subset of all football plays. You may find such a category faulty or even meaningless, but you can’t deny that when someone says ‘trickeration’, a certain subset of football plays come to mind. I think the key ingredient in such plays is this: while every play involves deception of some sort, most plays involve deception in terms of player movement (such as pulling guards or crossing routes), or fakes that suggest the ball might go somewhere, but it in fact doesn’t (like pump fakes, or play-action passes). However, the average fan, who is watching the ball, isn’t paying much attention to such things, and so isn’t fooled by such ‘deception’. In the average fan’s mind, a ‘trick’ play involves a sudden misdirection of the ball, such as occurs with laterals, reverses, and flea-flickers. Such plays fool the fans at least as much as, if not more than, the defense.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on May 22, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In my mind, the main concern is ensuring that people don’t think winning with a “trick play” is cheap or something like that. I know a lot of Oklahoma fans tried to downplay Boise State’s victory by saying they used “trick plays.” But they count just as much as conventional plays. There isnt anything illegal about them.

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by TwistNHook on May 22, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Very good point, Twist. It’s all part of the game, and part of what makes it interesting to watch. Would Oklahoma have beaten Boise State in an 11-on-11 tug-of-war match? No doubt, but I think there are several good reasons why nobody has yet created the BCS of tug-of-war.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on May 22, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

All part of the game as long as it fits into conventional standards of how to run trick plays. Once someone tries something like the A-11, things have a tendency to become illegal.

The The is above upsets.

by Maharg on May 22, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very good point, Twist.

There’s a first time for everything, right?

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by TwistNHook on May 22, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oklahoma fans complain about everything

They complain about the refs and Oregon. They complain about trick plays. They complain that Arizona took their defensive coordinator. They complain that Texas complains too much about the BCS.

by kencraw on May 22, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Someone misses Mike Stoops and wishes they had him back?!?!?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on May 22, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with Twist.

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by HydroTech on May 22, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There truly is a first time for everything, isn’t there?

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by TwistNHook on May 22, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

An interesting definition

It’s probably more theoretically accurate to what fans consider a trick play, but it’s also much more subjective in whether a particular play meets the definition. Is play-action, where the QB hides the ball, a trick play? In any case, my definition most definitely does not include special teams play.

I still like my definition better ;-)

by kencraw on May 22, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Haha, rec’d

by Kai on May 22, 2009 7:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the flip side...

I’ve got to agree with Hydro about USC.

I think trick plays are much more risky against very good defenses. Trick plays work best against over-pursuing defenses which is generally more likely with a little less talented but over-achieving defenses. Oregon State is the proto-typical example in the last few years. USC doesn’t need to over-pursue, they can beat you with convetional play.

Said another way, there’s two reasons for trickery:
1. To get a big gain/score on one play
2. To keep the defense honest

Great defenses are much more likely to allow a trick play to actually work. Additionally, for the #2 to be realized, the trick play either has to work or at least scare the defense enough that it should/could have worked. A great defense won’t be scared by the play either.

As such, It’s much better to use setup plays and regular play deception and trickery to keep USC balanced and on their toes.

by kencraw on May 22, 2009 9:15 AM PDT reply actions   1 recs

I meant "much less likely"

Oops… it was supposed to read “Great defenses are lesslikely to allow a trick play to actually work.”

by kencraw on May 22, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You make a really good point here, Ken. I don’t think a playcaller can simply call a trick play just to call something tricky; rather the call should be made because the playcaller believes it will exploit a certain weakness in the defense. A great defense will obviously present fewer of these weakness that can be exploited. While obviously anything Cal can do offensively to keep USC’s defense form expecting what is coming at them is a good thing, I think Cal has to be both more sophisticated and less cavalier in drawing up an offensive gameplan.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on May 22, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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