NFL Draft II Open Thread
by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 1:39 AM PDT
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PrintNFL Draft, Day 2: 10 AM EST, 7 AM PST.
Worrell Williams Highlights from david cutcliff on Vimeo.
Round 1 is up and Alex Mack is on his way to Cleveland, where he will get a chance to duel with old enemies in Rey Maulauga and Keith Rivers at Cincy. It seems around football circles, he was valued more than the highly versatile Duck center Max Unger; Unger wasn't picked until late in the 2nd round to Seattle.
Now we're onto the meat and potatoes. Although the big guns have been hired, the 3rd through 7th rounds can offer so many opportunities at rebuilding a team from the bottom up. Follett and Morrah are the likeliest Bears to be drafted. Worrell, Rulon and Anthony all have shots too. Nate and Will are dark horses. We'll see what happens.
Before clicking through to the comment sections, ponder this question: Which Golden Bear moving on will have the best pro career? Answer this poll and elucidate on your answer in the comments.
After the jump are all the links from yesterday, along with danzig highlight reels for most of the players up for grabs.
Rulon Davis Highlights from bob gregory on Vimeo.
Rulon Davis (Click for Remembering the Seniors Profile)
Interviews: Yahoo Sports, Cal Bears Examiner, The Football Expert, Daily Cal
Strengths: Decent athlete...Great height and bulk...Extremely long arms and big hands...Strong...Powerful tackler...Stout at the point of attack..Does a nice job in pursuit...Has a non-stop motor...Very tough...Hard worker.Weaknesses: Below average speed and quickness...Is not very explosive and lacks a burst...Raw technician...Not a top pass rusher and repertoire of moves is limited...Durability is a concern...Is older than the average prospect.
Fanbases/teams interested in Rulon: New England, Oakland, Indy, Buffalo (maybe it's just that one fan, fami1y_first who keeps on posting Bears players. Not that I don't mind the coverage...wooo! MORE GOLDEN BEARS IN BUFFALO!)
Wrecking Crew 2008 - Cal's Linebackers from jack bauer on Vimeo.
Zack Follett (click for Remembering the Seniors profile)
Interviews: Daily Cal, Scout, Examiner
Strengths:
Very physical with good strength...Reliable tackler...Excellent in pursuit...Does a nice job versus the run...Can take on and shed blockers...Good pass rusher and blitzer...Has a burst to close...Very intense and competitive...A big hitter...Has a non-stop motor...Superb instincts...Hard worker...Tough and durable...Has a lot of special teams potential... Productive and really had a terrific senior campaign.
Weaknesses:
Just average size and bulk...Stiff and not a great athlete...Doesn't play real fast...Has some health and durability concerns...Sub par change of direction skills...Too aggressive at times...Lacks fluid hips...A liability in coverage...Marginal ball skills...Struggles in space ... Limited upside.
Fanbases/teams interested in Follett: San Francisco, Buffalo, Houston, Arizona, Oakland, New Orleans, Indianapolis
Worrell Williams (Click for Remembering the Seniors Profile)
Strengths: Good athleticism...Is quick and agile with a burst...Decent bulk and a solid frame...A reliable tackler...Able to deliver the big hit...Good strength...Works through traffic well...Has a great motor...Intense and competitive...Versatile...Durable and experienced...Good bloodlines.Weaknesses: Shorter than you'd prefer...Does not have great timed speed...Lacks fluid hips...Average, at best, in coverage...Questionable instincts and awareness...Is too aggressive at times...Has trouble getting off blocks.
Anthony Felder (Click for Remembering the Seniors Profile)
Strengths:
Very athletic...Above average speed, agility and quickness...Excellent strength...Reliable tackler...Outstanding range...Intelligent with great instincts and awareness...Smooth in coverage...Offers some positional versatility...Fantastic work ethic...Lots of experience...Still has upside.
Weaknesses:
Does not have the size that you look for...Has trouble taking on and shedding blockers...Marginal pass rush ability...Isn't a big hitter...Does not make many impact plays in coverage...Durability may be an issue.
Will Ta'ufo'ou Career Highlights from danzig on Vimeo.
Will Ta'ufo'ou (Click for Remembering the Seniors Profile)
Sports Illustrated Draft Profile:
POSITIVES: Explosive lead blocker who flashes skill handling the ball. Quick off the snap, accelerates into blocks and fundamentally sound. Displays good footwork in pass protection, picks up blitzes and squares into defenders. Gets out front and creates space for running backs. Works hard to finish blocks. NEGATIVES: Average strength and really does not get much movement run blocking. Looks small for 250 pounds. Rarely asked to handle the ball. ANALYSIS: Ta'ufo'ou is a hard-working fullback who's also been very effective on special teams in college. He has the skill set to find a home as a number two fullback on a roster, and Ta'ufo'ou presents himself as a special teams demon.
Fanbases/teams interested in Will: Cincinnati
Cameron Morrah (Click for Remembering the Seniors Profile)
Strengths:
Very athletic...Good speed and quickness...Soft, reliable hands...Great body control and ball skills...Decent leaper...Runs good routes...Able to separate..Strong...Is not afraid to work the middle...Still has upside.
Weaknesses:
Just average size and bulk...Isn't very elusive and won't do much after the catch...Questionable instincts and awareness...Isn't much of a blocker...Not real tough or physical...Durability...Limited experience.
Nate Longshore (Click for Remembering the Seniors Profile)
Stories on Longshore: CC Times, Examiner
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Once the draft hits Round 3, you see the scouting service/mock drafts break down…. A lot of these guys in the 3rd were very low on the ESPN/NFL boards
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For instance, the first two CBs off the board in the 3rd round were ranked 31st and 52nd at their positions by ESPN
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 7:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Also, for the poll, Nick Sundberg’s supposed to play in the NFL for 10 years+, guaranteed!
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I hope Sundberg will get signed but maybe he won’t get drafted.
Supposedly Sundberg isn’t the highest rated LS in the draft, which would be Hawaii’s Ingram. Only two snappers were invited to the combine, Ingram and Michigan’s Griffin.
To put LSs in perspective, a third of NFL LSs are drafted, a chunk are signed and a few are veterans converted from other positions. Clearly some snappers are born great, some attain greatness and some have greatness thrust upon them.
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
Ahhh, I forgot about Sundberg. Well, I guess he definitely qualifies.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions
ESPN didn’t even rate Sundberg that high. In fact, they had like 8 other long snappers ranked ahead of him.
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Maybe they can play other positions on special teams too
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions
I went to go look at buying a Niners Crabtree jersey. I don’t know what Eastern European they’ve trafficked into America to stitch these things, but they need some MAJOR spelling lessons.
Thats the worst misspelling of Crabtree I’ve ever seen!
But, thtad be kind of cool to have a jersey that said Draft Pick on it. Itd never be wrong. Unlike my Terrell Owens niners jersey. And my Nick Van Exel warriors jersey. And my JRich Warriors jersey. And my TMurphy Warriors jersey. And my BDiddy Warriors jersey. Basically, what Im saying here is I need to stop buying Warriors jersies.
PS I dont actually havea Nick Van Exel warriors jersey. I saw it for 10 bucks once and didnt get it. I went back the next week and it was gone. MY WHITE WHALE! MY WHITE WAIL!
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Murphy was an absolute BEAST this year for the pacers. Set the franchise record for double doubles in a season.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh man, no Bears have been drafted yet?
We’re running out of rounds.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 10:48 AM PDT reply actions
Scout lists Morrah as the 7th-best player left
though there are 2 tight ends in front of him
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
What round are they in?
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Round 5 pick 5 as of now.
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by Berkelium97 on Apr 26, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions
plenty of time left
i don’t think any of the bears other than Mack looked to go before at least the 4th round, and Morrah or Follett in the 5th isn’t a terribly long fall.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
San Jose State has more than we do. Cal Poly has the same. What gives?
Arizona 2
ASU 0 (sorry Rudy)
Cal 1
Oregon 4
OSU 5
Stanford 0
UCLA 0
USC 8
Wash (not even listed at SFGate)
WashS 0
Stanfurd Delendum Est.
The Bungles drafted a punter
Excellent.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 AM PDT reply actions
Maybe this opens the door for Schneider???
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions
I'm doing my best T-Bred impression
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions
The rest of their draft looks solid… I wonder when Anger will go
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions
How've the Niners/Raiders drafts been going?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 11:32 AM PDT reply actions
The Niners took Glen Coffee out of Alabama. They love that guy there as a real workhorse. Then, they took a lienbacker from Pitt. Kiper loves the guy.
Niners fans are upset, because the Niners made a trade with the Panthers, giving up their 2nd and 4th rounder for a 1st rounder next year. This was controversial.
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Uhh that was an awesome trade. You get the first round pick from a team that is not a contender. It could be in the 20s, yes, but there is also a chance it could be top 10. A good trade, imo.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions
Carolina had a 1st round bye last year
I hope they fall apart, but there’s a decent chance that the pick will be #26 or something
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Look, if the Niners didn’t love who was available then it was a good move. Plus, do you really think they will get a first round bye again?
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I think it's reasonable
An NFC East team will probably get 1 of the byes
No team from the West will get one, and I doubt a North team will either. And Carolina might be the best team in the South.
I don’t know if I’d call it probable, but it’s a reasonable expectation if you’re a Panther fan.
I think it was an OK, not great trade for the niners
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I’d put a good bet on the Saints winning the South with a lot of competition from the Falcons and Panthers
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions
If they gave up just the 2nd rounder it would be a great trade, obviously. The 4th rounder made it a little worse.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Wow, a Worrell Williams mention on the NFLN
Hmmm….
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 11:33 AM PDT reply actions
Oregon State is killing it
Really didn’t expect them to show this well in the draft… really didn’t expect for us to go silent in the draft either.
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The magic touch of Mike Riley strikes again
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions
Oh lord, the Giants got Bomar
Isn’t that who T-Bred said was the best QB in the draft?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions
I thought he said Michael Crabtree was the best QB in the draft?
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No, that was you, and you thought it was Syd’Quan Thompson.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions
I actually think Bomar could have been the 3rd best QB on the draft board...
I think he and Brian Hoyer are sleepers… them and Longshore, obviously.
????
I’ve never said that…
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm surprised
Al Davis didn’t take Longshore in the third round.
I think we were looking at him at FB.. Mike Tomlin said he thinks he’ll be a special teams guy + challenge for FB on their team
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Start of the 6th round and still no second-day drafts from Cal
Morrah is the 2nd best remaining player according to ESPN. Follett is the 2nd best OLB remaining, Williams the 3rd best ILB, and “Willie” Ta’ufo’ou the 10th best fullback.
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Anyone think the Zack Attack
will end up in SF with the #11 pick?
I am pissed at the Niners for not taking him, plus taking another TE and not Morrah.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Sanchez just tried to cover/lie for Pete Carroll’s tantrum when Sanchez announced he was going pro. Pretty lame, unbelievable lie and story
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Sanchez made up some lame lie. Saying PC had a secret strategy. And that the strategy was to test Sanchez to see if Sanchez really wanted to go or not. That PC is such a competitive guy, that he just didn’t want to say “congrats and good luck” but instead wanted to fight and convince him to come back. It was pretty unbelievable, especially considering everyone at that press conference when PC went nuts all knew that this wasn’t some ploy but instead that PC really was upset that Sanchez left.
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I think Sanchez is a good kid. He is who you want to be the face of your franchise.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not setting out to criticize the guy, but merely to point out that: (1) it was nice of him to lie and cover for Pete Carroll’s tantrum; and (2) his lie was pretty unbelievable.
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I wasn’t really responding to you. I was just making an observation. He seems like a really good guy.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Very well spoken, knows how to act, won’t have any problems with the NY media in my opinion.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m guessing Follett’s ongoing neck injury is hurting his stock, especially since the scouts believe it’s a result of the way he tackles
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I watched his NFL combine video on NFL.com and his lateral speed and change of direction were kinda stuff and slow. Teams are probably thinking he may not be that great in coverage.
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He may only play two downs, but guys like Cushing and Sintim were extremely stiff in the hips too….
I think teams got a USC boner and are going to be disappointed when they realize having Taylor Mays back deep made a lot of these players look better than they actually are…
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Also, there may not be much of a need for him at this point… Although if people are drafting for special teams players at this point, I fail to see how Morrah, Follett, and Felder couldn’t be lights out in that regard
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m really starting to think Follett’s injury is going to knock straight outta the draft.
Wow! Al Afalava! I think that’s almost Oregon State’s entire starting D from last year!
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Wasn’t Oregon State’s defensive line superawesomemegacool two years ago?
Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...
by yellow fever on Apr 26, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah
And none of them got drafted. Why are they getting drafted now?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
They have one of the top DTs in the country for the next two seasons in Stephen Paea
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
And Oregon State transfer Coye Francies just got drafted…
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
So many freaking Beavers
Didn’t people watch the Pac-10? Their defense didn’t win those games the way Cal’s did.
Plus they play a freaking 4-3 alignment.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions
I missed two rounds for Bulls-Celtics
What the hell? Still no one?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 1:47 PM PDT reply actions
Jesus, Ellison has 4.8 speed?
Then again, John Lynch had 4.7…
Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...
I mean, Follett’s faster than Ellison and has played LB at a high level for 4 years… and Ellison gets picked ahead of him and projects as a LB? That makes no sense. I’m convinced it’s his injury now…
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Does this mean he might end up selling awesome wood carvings for a living? That wouldn’t be a bad second career.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions
If Follett doesn’t get drafted I will kick all of the GMs in the shins and throw a tantrum.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
You’ll grow out of that when you’re older.
Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...
by yellow fever on Apr 26, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions
It is really only Follett. My love for Follett could best be described as unhealthy. He is my favorite athlete of all time, bar none, and I don’t know if that will ever change. I’m the one who, when he nearly broke Erik Ainge in half, jumped off my couch, let out a high pitched yell, pounded my chest ferociously, and yelled “SEC MEET ZACK FOLLETT!!!!!” I think I scared some of my neighbors. When I was waiting for the band to play in Sproul before the MSU game, when I saw some one walk out with his jersey I immediately squealed with delight, dropped my sandwich, and sprinted in the store. I will never but another Cal jersey. Whenever he would do his pregame prayer this season I would take at least 5 photos of him. When he gave his speech after the Emerald Bowl after winning the defensive MVP award I teared up a bit because I wasn’t ready for him to leave.
After the game, when all the Cal players were going around signing autographs and taking photos with fans, I was a victim of my seats. I was right by the Miami dugout. No players even got close to my section. But I never gave up hope. I waited for over 30 minutes, hoping that Zack would notice the kid standing alone in his section. I got to watch as people took pictures and met my favorite athlete ever. My family was annoyed with me because they wanted to leave, and I would not budge. I didn’t care about the cold. I needed to meet Follett. I was out there forever. I kept waiting. Sadly, none of the players noticed. They all went inside. It sucked. I felt dejected for a few solid days afterward. But I wouldn’t change a thing. If it was today I still would have waited for over half an hour, just for the small chance to meet Follett.
I think that is a pretty good example of my unhealthy love for him.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Brandon Gibson, the only good Wazzu player last year to the Eagles
Another receiver for Philly?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 2:01 PM PDT reply actions
He may be more ready to contribute than Maclin
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions
Scout team fodder.
Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...
by yellow fever on Apr 26, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions
Not at all. Good player, horrible college team.
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Sixth round pick says he’s scout team fodder.
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by yellow fever on Apr 26, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
Special Teamer until they are underwhelmed with Maclin
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Mr. Irrelevant=last pick in the draft?
Boy, Brady Quinn wouldn’t be happy.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions
If Longshore’s injuries (lingering ankle injury and pec tear) really were the reason for his 2007 and 2008 decline, then I think he is actually a big steal. His production in 2006 was good. It wasn’t great, but it was solid. He could be a good value with a low 7th round pick.
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Clarification. By “steal” I mean not quite in the sense that he’ll be a great player, but that his production when compared to his draft location is a good value.
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If we’re going by production, Follett should be a steal anywhere after Round 2
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 2:08 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, when I said “production” i meant more like his possible NFL production rather than his college production. I don’t really think some of the other remaining QBs available, such as Painter, Tuitama, Harrell, Cantwell, Hoyer, really project to have much better careers than Longshore. So if a team is looking for a QB, I don’t see it as an extreme reach for someone to pluck Longshore over one of the other available QBs.
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I think he will be great in the NFL. Just needs to be the rusher for a 3-4.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions
i guess mike riley
wasnt doing it with just smoke & mirrors
At least Al Davis isn't running my team's drafts.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 2:10 PM PDT reply actions
I think we all knew that…
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean, Morrah is faster than some WRs in the League and in this draft… I don’t understand why you wouldn’t take a flyer on him. I’m SURE he could be a good ST player at least.
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions
I think the problem is that Morrah doesn’t have the agility to really run clean cut routes. So that means he can’t be like a “big WR,” but it limits him to a “Receiving tight end” position. But in the NFL, you need guys who can block well too which Morrah doesn’t do so well, so I think despite his receiving skills, he’s not in a great positional need. There are not a lot of teams that are looking purely for a “receiving TE.”
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Going undrafted would only give more motivation to Follett, a guy who really does not need any…
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If he got signed as a UFA, I would not want to be a QB in that camp. He will murder them out of anger and vengeance.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions
If Rulon didn’t have such an extensive injury history and if he wasn’t so old, he might have been the 2nd Bear drafted today. He has prototypical size, great strength, and good character.
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The story about him being a bit of a cancer from this past week didn’t make sense.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 2:37 PM PDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t take away from that story that he was a cancer at all. Now somebody else who was drafted last year, HE was a cancer.
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I’d be pissed too if the caterers ran out of food. Also, there’s nothing really horrible about him and Tedford having a chilly relationship. Sure we all hope all of our players are having great relationships with Tedford, but that doesn’t happen all the time – especially b/c players disagree with their position on the depth chart.
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To be fair, Hydro gets pissed about everything. It’s why Twist’s face looks like Ali after Larry Holmes smashed him in.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 3:11 PM PDT up reply actions
morrah return to cal?
could they envoke the NBA rule and have morrah return to school if he isn’t picked…?
does the nfl have the if you didn’t hire an agent, you can return to school clause?
did morrah hire an agent??
after you keep your name in the draft pool, you’re no longer eligible… anyway, he left early because he wanted to make the NFL for his grandma, so I’m sure he’ll be competing for a roster spot
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
This Day 2 has not been fun
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 3:09 PM PDT reply actions
At this point, wouldn't it be better for these guys to go undrafted?
Those contracts are going to be reeeeal cheap.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah. And they can choose their destination.
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 3:21 PM PDT up reply actions
The Raiders would have been better off taking Follett over that outside linebacker from Oregon State. Then again, we would have been better off taking a lot of different people other than the ones that we took.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 26, 2009 3:40 PM PDT reply actions
The upside: HE CAN GET PLAYING TIME =d
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 3:42 PM PDT up reply actions
Ahhhhhhhhhh lord
Detroit?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 3:47 PM PDT reply actions
Great spot for him! Backup Julian Peterson!
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm too depressed
By the Bills picking ANOTHER corner. Dick Jauron continues to fail.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 3:51 PM PDT up reply actions
Byrd’s no doubt a safety though. DJ said so on ESPN.
Their justification was they wanted play-making/ballhawking :/
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions
WE DON’T NEED D-BACKS. Linebackers, offensive linemen, d-linemen, THAT’S what we need. We drafted ONE of those.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions
…. That’s obviously not the way the team feels… Aren’t most of your DBs’ contracts up soon?
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, but what, are we letting them all go?
Jauron’s just doing this because he used to be a cornerback.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions
Right now they play 4-3
Which makes this puzzling.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions
Gunther Cunningham
Mean sunuvabitch!
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess they'll use him for his middle linebacking skills
And his special team abilities.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
Danzig is there a Follett highlight reel? I couldn't find one, only one of all the linebackers.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions
holy shit
I thought I already made his… but I can’t find it. I swear I remember making one for him, but my mind is playing tricks on me.
I’ll try and make a quick one…. but how soon do you need it?
Whenever you can
We’ll probably do the same deal that we’re doing with the Browns blog.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions
You'll prob have to just fanpost on their blog
…cuz as I recall, they’re not all that interested in learning about their late round picks.
Also,
…now I remember what happened. I did make the Pain Train reel… but halfway through it my computer crashed and it corrupted the file before I could encode it. I didn’t get back to it that night… and then I forgot about it.
Ah alright
If you manage to fix that up you can just post it and we’ll do what we do.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions
The file is corrupted, it won’t open. It was his 2008 reel anyway. I already have his 2007 reel posted.
Should I just make a career reel starting from 2005? I’m not sure people other than fans want to watch 3 diff 5min reels. Your choice… should I just finish his 2008 or do a career reel?
Not sure yet. But I know CGB would appreciate a career highlight reel.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:47 PM PDT up reply actions
Ignore Twist, MAKE US A FUCKING VIDEO BITCH
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Apr 26, 2009 7:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh and whenever you get the chance
Maybe Cameron Morrah.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Damnit
Sorry, my bad, missed those.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:20 PM PDT up reply actions
We have that one on here
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 4:18 PM PDT up reply actions
Lions fans are wondering
Why they just didn’t get Rey instead of Zack.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:03 PM PDT reply actions
It’s better they go undrafted at this point. They get close to nothing at this point.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Alright, what are the chances that a Bear is Mr. Irrelevant? Perhaps Worrell? Or Rulon?
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Rulon Davis as the last pick?
That’s a steal. Dude’s a man.
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Kiper loves hair gel.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Mel Kiper gave love to both Follett and Morrah =D
He will always have a boner for Cal players
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They didn't have good highlights for Morrah
Remember that catch against Arizona?
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Thoroughbred
Email me dude. bearsnecessities at gmail
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:29 PM PDT up reply actions
Mr. irrelevant...
is a kicker! And his last name sounds like suck-up…
I think if it had gone on for 30 minutes longer Trey Wingo would have murdered everyone in Radio City Music Hall.
Except for when its lupus - Maharg
Why do you say that? Other then the fact that they neglect the west coast, I like ESPN.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 4:46 PM PDT up reply actions
You’ll understand when you’re older.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 4:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I was literally praying every time the Niners had a late round pick that they would take him. I would have watched every single game.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 5:35 PM PDT up reply actions
The Raiders took some jobber from Oregon State at outside linebacker and I keep forgetting his name. We could have had Follett.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 26, 2009 5:45 PM PDT up reply actions
Would you really wish the Raiders upon him though?
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 5:46 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm guessing this isn't where Cameron projected himself coming out early
At least Al Davis isn't running my team's drafts.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Apr 26, 2009 5:31 PM PDT reply actions
Yeah it is really just a disappointing situation. For one, he should have gone much earlier. Kiper said he was shocked that so many inferior TEs were picked ahead of him. Nobody wins with Cameron coming out early. You can bet that he wishes he hadn’t made the decision, and we do too.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 5:36 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t know why our guys were being shied away from. The commentators were lauding the picks as steals. Is there something against Cal players?
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t think they are afraid of Cal players per se because they went to Cal. Instead, I think each of our players this year had big flaws which kept teams from drafting them.
Rulon – injury history and age.
Longshore – injury history, and decline in production
Morrah – lack of blocking skill
Williams – below average speed, and recognition skills, not a big time pass rusher.
Felder – no big pass rush moves, not speedy,
Follett – not very agile, change of direction is just fair, coverage skills need work,
Ta’ufo’ou – no college production (but not really his fault),
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I think other headscratchers are
Jeremiah Johnson, RB, Oregon
Mike Jones, WR, ASU
Given all the crap that got drafted ahead of these guys (and our guys)… I now feel like I truly don’t understand NFL scouts at all.
Look at the running backs Will T has paved the way for. That’s production at its best.
This has been a really bad day for Cal. I predict we lose at least 1 potential recruit because of today. A big selling point is the ability to get guys into the NFL. Look at our 3 biggest in conference rivals. They all were in the top 4 for number of players picked. They will use that as a selling point against us. USC obviously has a great reputation in the NFL and their borderline guys will always get drafted. Draft picks mean a lot to recruits. And we only had 3, 2 of those coming in the late 7th round. This day is a setback for the program. A relatively minor one, but still a setback.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions
Not a big deal. We don’t usually procure NFL-quality talent to begin with.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions
But we are starting to. Look at our current class. Look at the direction the program is going. We are currently a perennial top 25 team. We are about to become a perennial top 15 and maybe even top 10 team. These next few classes are among the most important in the history of this program. Any leverage we can get over our rivals is key.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions
We overrate this stuff. Most high school kids don’t have the foresight to think four years in advance. Personal relationships with coaching staffs matter much more than just name recognition, especially with the type of recruits we’ve attracted as of late.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions
You really think top recruits aren’t thinking about the NFL at all when they make their college choice?
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Not as much as people think they do.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions
i don't think that's true
cal had 10 players selected in 2007-2008, and between 1999 and 2008, had the second most prospects selected in the conference. i wrote this after the draft last year, and plan on updating the numbers for this year.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Yeah, but he's referring to Rivals 100-150 talent
Which is considered the top talent and most likely to succeed in the NFL level right out of high school. Tedford takes lesser known athletes and develops them into outstanding talent.
How many of those players drafted were originally 2-3 star talent?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 9:04 PM PDT up reply actions
Alex Mack was a 2 star. I said this on some post earlier this week: Tedford maximizes his players potential. He occasionally finds diamonds in the rough. Of course, you get more diamonds if the players are highly rated to start with.
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 9:12 PM PDT up reply actions
NEED HELP WATCHING FOR FREE AGENT SIGNINGS
http://www.kffl.com/hotw.php/nfl
Hey, can you all watch this NFL news wire over the next few days and post what teams our players are landing on? I can’t check this as often as I’d like but if we all pitch in we can be well informed (last year this wire was very reliable and fast updating).
by danzig on Apr 26, 2009 6:20 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Good call
The other possibility is to subscribe to RSS feeds from Google News for individual players, i.e.
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=worrell+williams&output=rss
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=anthony+felder&output=rss
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=rulon+davis&output=rss
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=nate+longshore&output=rss
http://news.google.com/news?pz=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=will+ta’ufo’ou&output=rss
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Where was my Backlash open thread? Edge is the new World Heavyweight Champion!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 26, 2009 7:57 PM PDT reply actions
NO SPOILERS! I LIKE TO WATCH THE ENCORE! NO SPOILERS!
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Oh, crap. I’m sorry, sir.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Apr 26, 2009 8:02 PM PDT up reply actions
WillT to the Bears
…wow, glad I didn’t go to sleep yet.
Bears | Taufoou agrees to terms
Sun, 26 Apr 2009 21:10:17 -0700
Brad Biggs, of the Chicago Sun-Times, reports the Chicago Bears have agreed to terms on a free-agent contract with FB Will Taufoou (California).
by danzig on Apr 26, 2009 9:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Nice
I’ll frontpage all the info tonight.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 26, 2009 9:26 PM PDT up reply actions
Okanes reports that Follett failed physicals from several teams… Makes sense
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 10:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
What? Why?
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 10:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Issues with the neck pain/stinger
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 10:40 PM PDT up reply actions
How long ago was that?
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by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 10:57 PM PDT up reply actions
I’m not sure how much it affected him this season, but last season he missed several games due to the neck stinger.
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by Berkelium97 on Apr 26, 2009 11:37 PM PDT up reply actions
Neck stingers never really go away. They can be reaggravated severely and are just a lingering pain that subsides with time and lies dormant.
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 11:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Rulon Davis signs with the Broncos. Exactly the right fit for him at SSDE. Very great shot to make the team, given the depth issues the Broncos have…
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by Thoroughbred on Apr 26, 2009 10:35 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
The draft/UFA's for Cal
Guys that will play in the NFL for several years:
Mack
Morrah
Sundberg
Will T
Note: C, # 2/3 TE, LS, and FB won’t wow many fans, but having 3 NFL regulars and 1 potential HoFer is not too shabby
Guys that could play in the NFL:
Follett
Felder
Williams
Note: Cal’s ballyhooed ‘backers took a hit this draft. Follett leads with his head when tackling (in a move we all love) but is borderline spearing/personal foul-esque. This, combined with his tackling technique-induced neck stinger, his modest size/speed/coverage dropped him significantly. I’m surprised the Niners passed on him that late in the draft after not drafting a pass rusher…although maybe I shouldn’t since McCloughan said he wouldn’t draft OLB types under 6’2" (Brown, Follett). ILB’s fell big time (Mualuga et al) and the Niners picked up the Big East Def. PoY in the 5th round (great pick, imo…solid Ted prospect and Spikes has an injury history). Hopefully Williams will get picked up.
Guys that have kind of longshot chance of playing in the NFL:
Longshore
Note: hey, it could happen.
My point: in 3-5 years Cal could have 4-8 players on NFL rosters from this draft class. That’s not shabby considering Cal’s draft class was filled with blue collar types, a newly healthy QB who struggled for the last 1.5 years, and smallish OLB with unknown NFL translational skills.
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