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DBD 4.27.09 I have seen the future and his name is Adam Theis

In February of 2006, my wife and I went to Yoshi's in Oakland to see the Mingus Big Band play.  My two favorite Mingus Big Band (and by extension, Charles Mingus song) are "Song With Orange" and "Moanin'"  So, you can imagine my glee when they opened with "Moanin'" and closed with "Song With Orange."  I forget completely what was in between, but did it really matter?  The show was unbelievable, it was amazing.

And the Adam Theis April 18, 2009 completely and totally BLEW it away.  No joke.  Not even close.

I first heard of the Bay-Area born Adam Theis last year at another SF Jazz show.  This one was headlined by the always unique Bjorkestra, a jazz orchestra that plays the music of Bjork.  I mean I'm not a Bjork fan by any stretch of the imagination, but these guys took her music, pulled it apart, recontextualized it, and made it amazing.

Their opener was the Realistic Orchestra, headed by Theis.  I wouldn't say they stole the show, because Bjorkestra was great.  But they were definitely sick.  With a lot of funktification of songs.  So, he was on my radar.  I later found out that a friend of mine knew Theis from his Sonoma State days, many moons ago.

Anyway, I was fairly bummed heading into the show.  I had gotten tickets for 6 people, including my wife and 4 other people.  All 5 of them, for various reasons, found themselves unable to make the show.  Although I found 2 people to take tickets, they showed up late to the show.  So, I was driving into SF by myself.  I was saving seats by myself.

Not the most auspicious start to the most incredible musical experience of my life.  The show was at the Palace Of Fine Arts and it was open seating.  So, I got there about 30 minutes early and snagged great seats in the 5th row near center.  Very close to the action!

The band in question was quite the interesting instrumentation.  A 60 piece orchestra, including a fully functioning jazz big band, a huge string section, two drummers, two keyboardists, and a DJ!  It also had fronting vocals of about 6 singers, including rapper Lyrics Born.   Yes, it was packed up on stage.

Adam Theis is the Don, if you will, of the Jazz Mafia.  The Jazz Mafia is about 3 or 4 different groups (Realistic Orchestra; Shotgun Wedding Quartet) that play together all over the place.  He brought all these players together (and there were a lot) for this show.  It was huge.  It was magical.  He may not have composed or arranged every note.  But to manage all the people in that group must have been incredibly difficult.  And mucho credit just for putting the show together!  But there was so much more than that.

If the second half was anything like the first half, I would have left, said Adam Theis and his crew were really good and that would have been that.  The first half was really good.  It had a great mix of vocals and the band.  Lyrics Born didn't really do much at all, actually.  One song "Blea v. Tolling" had a violin cutting contest.  The two main violinists tried to outplay each other.  It.was.sick.  They were some times when it got a little out there, but generally it was a perfect blend of the band with the singing.  And it had everything you could want.  Straight ahead jazz.  Lovely singing.  Rapping.  The classical violin part.  All mixed together into one delightful gumbo.  A smorgasbord of music.

So, yea, if the second half was like the first, it would have been a very good night. But the second half was NOTHING like the first half.  NOTHING. 

The first song was the most disconcerting.  It was an Astor Piazzolla piece.  It was only disconcerting, because it was such a picture perfect cover of the piece.  That, in and of itself, is a fairly impressive feat.  Take the Tango Legend's music and arrange it for 60.  They even had a dude on the bandeon. 

My only problem was that I have all the Piazzolla albums.  I've heard all the songs.  I've heard them all straight ahead.  It's not a big concern.  I thought they might recontextualize it by funktifying it or something like that.  Taken it to that NEXT level.  This is a REALLY middling and inane critique, but it is how I felt. 

So, anyway, the next song was, well, beyond comprehension.  I don't know how it is for others, but for me when I listen to music, I want it to provoke emotions within me.  And the truly greatest moments are where the music makes me feel truly glorious.  If I'm lucky a song or solo has a few moments that reach these soaring heights.

The song was called  "Love Song" by vocalist Joe Bagale.  It's a soul ballad.  But not just any soul ballad.  The soul ballad to end all soul ballads.  It was like steroids took steroids and then this soul ballad took those steroided steroids. I know that it must seem like I love to prance around flexing my musical ego with an array of odd and estoeric interests.  But I have a huge soft spot for soul ballads.  The syrupy, the better!  And man was this one syrupy!

I even found it online, but am hesitant to direct you guys there.  You'd think I was crazy (more so).  Because it sounds so pedestrian online.  It's not even in the same galaxy!  But with the backing of a giant orchestra and the energy that a live performance brings, it was a totally different situation.

It controlled me emotionally in ways a song had never really controlled me before.  I felt like I was going to cry from the beauty.  It just grabbed me with a Rumsfeld-esque "Attention Grasp" and wouldn't let go.  Each dizzying climax was more amazing than the last.  I wasn't alone as people literally starting screaming along to the song and dancing some in their seats.  And when it was all over, I sprung immediately to my feet and started clapping wildly.  In my head, the conversation was one of the oddest ever.  One part of my was screaming "UNBELIEVABLE" over and over and over.  The internal narrator was telling me that I was acting so....genuine.  I mean to physically express enjoyment over the musical experience????  That's what the "plebes" do!  But all my arrogance, all my ego, it was all broken down by that song. 

You want to find music that makes you feel good.  If a song makes you feel happy, you like it.  If a song makes you feel ecstatic, you love it.  And if a song makes you feel positively fucking INVINCIBLE, it is one of the greatest experiences of your life.

The next song was plodding, it was slow, it seemed like a funeral dirge.  But it was exactly what I needed to calm down.  Like a post-coital cigarette, it gave me the chance to relax before the last two songs of the night.

The second to last song was the big rap numbers.  Lyrics Born, one of the two named artists, had not done much to that point.  A few verses in the first half, really.  This was his time to shine.  And look, I'll be honest, I don't know much about rap music.  But the whole group brought the energy on this.  This song had the entire audience on its feet dancing.  A 1,000 person audience of people who had, ostensibly, come to see jazz music up on their feet.  Dancing in their seats.  Dancing in the aisles.  An array of rappers, rapping along to 2 drummers, a DJ, a huge big band, and a string section.  They even had the jazz musicians taking solos during the rapping.  That was fairly awesome, sax and rap duet, as it were.

It was a call and response tune where Lyrics Born would implore the audience to rap along with him.  It worked.  Period.  I wish I had a better appreciation of rap music to help explain the song, but I lack the necessary context. 

The last song might have been even better.  It was a really funkified version of some old cop show theme song ("Streets Of San Francisco").  People rapping along, taking turns to the funky beats. It was different than the previous song, because here, instead of Lyrics Born being the lead, all the rappers were involved, trading 4s or 8s or whatever they do.  The people were still dancing and I was there along with them, boogying down with my scarf in what I can only assume was an embarrassingly awkward manner. 

At its peak, the music of the night was like a spinning top.  Chaos controlled just enough to keep it going and upright.  Dramatically close to toppling over into something bad.  But dramatically undulating over and over and over and over.  With over 60 different musicians on the stage, you are going to get a cornacopia of musical sounds going at the same time.  The potential for disaster was there.  But the top never fell over.  And that was the most amazing part.  The complex melodies seemed to simple.  Simplex as it were.  No matter what made up terms you use, it was white hot American awesome.

Where to go from here?  Well, a smaller chunk of the Orchestra (the Realistic Orchestra) is playing a few shows in the month of May.  They are playing at the Independent.  I forget exactly when that is.  But they are playing at the Downlow right in downtown Berkeley on 5.22.  The 20 piece orchestra is doing the music of James Brown and Stevie Wonder.  This should be truly amazing.  Here is the schedule with all the information

You should try to support your local artists and musicians and come out.  It will be a fun time!  And I promise NOT to write a 400,000 word screed about that concert afterwards.

 

 

Mack is going to take the Browns to the Superbowl (that.......came out wrong):

NEW YORK, NY - Former Cal football player Alex Mack was selected Saturday by the Cleveland Browns in the first round of the 2009 NFL Draft with the 21st overall pick. The first center taken in this year's draft is the 23rd player in Cal history to be selected in the first round and only the fourth offensive lineman. His selection at No. 21 overall is the highest a Cal offensive lineman has been drafted since Tarik Glenn was taken at No. 16 overall by Indianapolis in 1997.

"Playing in the NFL is a dream come true and I am thrilled to be a Cleveland Brown," said Mack. "I am so thankful to Coach Mangini, Mr. Kokinis, Coach Warhop and the rest of the Browns' organization for choosing me. I am also honored to have the chance to be able to play in front of some of the best fans in the nation. I know that the draft is just the first step, and I am eager to start working so I can be ready to contribute in 2009."

"We're really proud of Alex," said Cal head coach Jeff Tedford. "It's very well-deserved. He's meant a lot to our program, and he will be a great professional. He's a guy that works very hard and provided a lot of stability, guidance and leadership for our program. I'm just really proud that he came back for his senior year (in 2008) and it all worked out. It's great for him because of winning the Draddy Award and then now being selected so high in the draft. It couldn't happen to a better person."

"I'm very happy I came back for my senior year," added Mack. "It was probably one of the smartest decisions of my life. I'm very grateful for the people that pointed me in the right direction."

 

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Follett and Morrah go on Day 2:

(NEW YORK, NY) — Former Cal football players linebacker Zack Follett and tight end Cameron Morrah were both selected in the seventh round Sunday on the second and final day of the 2009 NFL Draft. Follett was taken by the Detroit Lions (No. 235 overall), while the Seattle Seahawks selected Morrah (No. 248 overall). The pair joins former college teammate Alex Mack as former Cal players selected in the 2009 NFL Draft. Mack was a first round selection (No. 21 overall) by the Cleveland Browns on the first day of the draft on Saturday.

Follett earned first-team All-Pac-10 honors in 2008 as he improved upon his second-team selection the previous season, and also picked up the team’s Bear Backers Award for its Most Valuable Player honor on defense for the second straight year. Follett was once again one of the hardest hitters in the conference and ranked among league leaders in several different categories, pacing the Pac-10 in tackles for loss (23.0, 1.77 per game, No. 3 NCAA) and forced fumbles (5), while ranking fourth in quarterback sacks (10.5, .81 per game, No. 17T NCAA) and tied for 12th in total tackles (87, 6.69 per game). He also returned a blocked field goal attempt 65 yards for a touchdown at Washington State and added a fumble recovery against Maryland. Follett was a 2008 semifinalist for the Chuck Bednarik Award given to the country’s best defensive player, a quarterfinalist for the Lott Trophy, the Emerald Bowl MVP, and for the second straight year was honored with the team’s Berkeley Breakfast Club Award as its defensive MVP in the Big Game. He also earned Lott Trophy IMPACT Player of the Week and Pac-10 Defensive Player of the Week honors after recording 11 tackles, 3.0 tackles for loss and a sack in a 26-16 win over Oregon on November 1.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 10:08 PM PDT reply actions  

Mens tennis beats UCSB:

The No. 48-ranked California men’s tennis team (11-10, 2-4 Pac-10) polished off No. 73 UC Santa Barbara (11-13) with a 5-2 win today at the Rob Gym Tennis Courts. Sophomore Bozhidar Katsarov completed the victory for the Golden Bears with his 6-4, 6-2 win against Taylor Chavez Goggin at No. 4 singles; his 15th singles win of the year.

Cal opened the day up by claiming the doubles point for the 14th time this season in a sweep of all three courts. When the Bears win the doubles point, they have won the subsequent match on 11 occasions. Cal’s senior tandem of Geoff Chizever and Eoin Heavey took the top court and defeated Josh Finkelstein and Alex Konigsfeldt, 8-6, to start the Bears off on the right foot. Sophomore Pedro Zerbini and freshman Nick Andrews came through with the clinching victory as they defeated Scott Hohenstein and Evan Jurgensen, 9-7, at court two. Katsarov and freshman Thai Tu added a third win, defeating Nick Caledonia and Taylor Chavez Goggin at court three, 8-6.

In singles play, No. 63-ranked Zerbini started the Bears off with a 6-0, 6-0 demolition of Konigsfeldt on the top court to put Cal up, 2-0 in the match. Andrews came off the courts next to put the Bears up by a 3-0 margin with his 6-2, 6-0 win over Max Taylor at No. 3 singles. Katsarov sealed the deal after that as he topped things off with his 6-4, 6-2 victory against Chavez Goggin.

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Womens tennis finishes play at Pac10 Championships:

California women’s tennis senior Marion Ravelojaona completed her run at the 2009 Pac-10 Championships as the runner up in the women’s singles invitational tournament today at Libbey Park. The fifth-year Golden Bear fell in straight sets to UCLA’s Carling Seguso, 6-2, 7-5. Ravelojaona and Cal now look ahead to the NCAA championship as the Bears (17-4, 7-1 Pac-10) look to do one better than their national runner-up finish from a year ago.

ESPNU will air the official NCAA selection show this Tuesday, April 28, at approximately 2:20 PT. Last year, the Bears hosted two matches at the Hellman Tennis Complex and defeated Army and Louisiana State to advance to the championship round of 16 in Tulsa, Okla. There, Cal took out Duke, top-ranked Northwestern and Baylor to face UCLA in the national championship match.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 10:09 PM PDT reply actions  

Womens Lacrosse loses to Stanford:

STANFORD, Calif. – California lost to No. 14/15 Stanford, 18-13, in the MPSF Tournament championship game on Sunday afternoon at Cagan Stadium. Junior midfielder Alex Tickner led the Golden Bears with five goals, as Cal ended its season with an 8-11 record. Stanford has a 12-4 record.

Cal senior goalkeeper Morgan Dyson, starting in her last game as a Bear, made nine saves. Junior midfielder Alyse Kennedy (3 goals) and junior defender DennaFaye Herald (1 goal, 2 assists) each scored three points for the Bears. Stanford’s Leslie Foard scored a game-high six points (5 goals, 1 assist).

Three Cal juniors – Kennedy, Herald and Alex Tickner – earned spots on the MPSF all-tournament team. Stanford’s Karen Nesbitt, who tallied three goals and two assists against Cal, was named the tournament MVP.

Tickner’s goal total was a career-high mark for the midfielder.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 10:10 PM PDT reply actions  

Record breaking performances at Track invitational:

More records were broken in the second day of the Brutus Hamilton Invitational on Saturday at Edwards Stadium. Highlighting the day’s action for Cal was sophomore Michael Coe breaking the school record in the mile and setting the fastest collegiate, U.S. and third-fastest time in the world this season. Junior Kimyon Broom also set the new school record in the 100-meter hurdles. Former Cal student-athlete Grace Upshaw set the world-leading mark and Edwards Stadium record in the long jump (22-3.75, 6.80m).

“This was a multi-faceted extravaganza,” said director of track and field Tony Sandoval. “Last night was a home run with all of the records and the great marks. I didn’t know if we would be able to surpass that, but today was spectacular. Obviously, the mile was the exclamaton point. It was great to see a lot of fans here and we had 300 track and field alumni here. It was a spectacular homecoming.”

Coe’s time in the mile was 3:56.18, which marks the third consecutive season that there has been a sub-four-minute mile at the Brutus Hamilton Invitational. Coe surpassed David Torrence’s record time of 3:58.62 for the school record. Torrence took second in the race at 3:57.04. The previous NCAA-best time was 4:01.38 and the previous best U.S. time was 3:58.90.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 10:11 PM PDT reply actions  

Womens water polo gets 4th place:

HONOLULU – The No. 5 California women’s water polo team dropped an 8-7 decision to No. 3-seed UCLA on Sunday evening in Hawaii. With the loss, the Golden Bears finish in fourth place in the Mountain Pacific Sports Federation Tournament at the Duke Kahanamoku Aquatics Complex.

“Our improvement over the past four weeks, during the whole season for that matter, has been significant,” Cal head coach Richard Corso said. “Our players are playing at a very, very high level right now. I look forward to keep improving throughout the NCAA Tournament.”

UCLA opened the first quarter with four goals, with Katie Rulon and Priscilla Orozco scoring two each. Cal answered with three goals in the first quarter, with Camille Hewko scoring two goals and Emily Csikos one.

California’s Lauren Barron scored the only goal in the second quarter as the match was tied 4-4 at the break.

UCLA came back in the third quarter to take a 7-6 lead after scoring three goals. Anne Belden scored two for the Bruins and Tanya Gandy added one. Cal received goals by Meghan Corso and Stephanie Schnugg in the quarter.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Womens soccer wins own tournament:

BERKELEY – The California women’s soccer team brought its spring season to a close by winning its annual 7 vs. 7 event. The eight-team tournament ran all day Saturday at Memorial Stadium. Cal hosted Stanford, UC Davis, St. Mary’s, Pacific, Sacramento State, WPSL powerhouse Sacramento Storm and a Cal Alumni & Friends team (Legends) in Berkeley for the day.

“It was a fun day for all the teams,” Cal head coach Neil McGuire said. “This event allows players to get a lot of touches on the ball, a chance to score a lot of goals and a good level of competition. The fans were treated to some amazing goals from all the teams. Going undefeated, and winning the event is of course a bonus.”

The teams were split into two groups and played round-robin format in the morning with teach team moving onto the knockout stages. For the afternoon’s play, the teams were seeded according to their morning results.

Cal advanced from group play as the No. 1 seed after three wins in the morning. The Bears defeated UC Davis, 6-2, Pacific, 5-2, and Legends, 3-0. Cal drew Sacramento State, the No. 4 seed from the opposing group, in the quarterfinals and won by a score of 3-1.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 10:12 PM PDT reply actions  

Softball beats Oregon:

The No. 15 California Golden Bears (32-15, 8-7 Pac-10) closed out their weekend with a 1-0 victory over the Oregon Ducks (15-29, 2-13 Pac-10) Sunday afternoon at Levine-Fricke Field.

The Bears looked to jump on the Ducks early, getting their first two batters of the game on base. Sophomore first baseman Valerie Arioto walked, advancing to second when freshman left fielder Jamia Reid singled through the left side. The Ducks’ starting pitcher, Samantha Skillingstad, induced a strikeout and a pair of infield pop ups to get out of the inning without surrendering a run.

Skillingstad and Bears’ junior pitcher Marissa Drewrey dueled it out from the circle. Neither pitcher allowed a base runner to advance past second base until the bottom of the fifth inning.

With two outs in the fifth, Jamia Reid legged out an infield single to third, just the third hit of the game for the Bears. The Bears’ DP, senior Gina Leomiti, followed with the hardest-hit of the game, a smash to right center field that pinged off the wall, scoring Reid from first on the RBI double.

Drewrey walked the leadoff batter in the sixth, but got a pair of strike outs and a groundout to second base to preserve her one-run lead. After the Bears went in order in the sixth, Drewrey came back out to the circle, three outs away from the first no-hitter of her career. She again walked the leadoff batter, but the Bears’ junior catcher Bernice Masaniai nailed Oregon’s pinch runner as she tried to steal second. With one out, Drewrey stuck out the next batter, pulling her within one out of the no-hit bid. The Ducks sent pinch hitter Brittany Rumfelt to the plate. Rumfelt stroked the first pitch she saw down into the left field corner for a double. With the no-hit bid gone, Drewrey looked to preserve the shut out, overpowering the next batter, striking her out on three pitches.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Womens golf 5th at pac10 Championships:

The California Golden Bears surged on the final day of play at the Pac-10 Championships, moving up the leaderboard for a fifth place finish. Sophomore Pia Halbig finished in eighth place among individuals.

The Bears posted a third-round team score of 284, dropping 21 strokes off their second round score.

“I thought we played a remarkable round today, bouncing back after yesterday’s disappointing performance,” said Cal head coach Nancy McDaniel. “We came out with a very competitive edge. We new we left a lot of shots out there yesterday and we didn’t let that happen today. I think we have a better feeling of who we are with this line up and are really starting to play well.”

Halbig and senior Shannon Yocum each shot two-under 69’s on their final 18 holes. Senior Allison Goodman was also under par, posting a 70.

The Bears started play on the tenth hole after starting on the first tee the previous two days. Halbig started slow, with bogies on 11 and 12, before logging birdies on the par-14 13 and par-3 14 to pull back to even par for the day. She birdied 17 before making the turn. She dropped to two under with a birdie on the par-5 first hole. She hit her fifth birdie of the day on her third-to-last hole, the par-5 7th. Halbig shot a two-under for the day and finished with a +2 overall, ranking eighth among the individual golfers.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 10:13 PM PDT reply actions  

Baseball beats ASU:

BERKELEY, CALIF. – The California baseball team came back from a 5-1 deficit by scoring five runs in the fourth inning and then got standout relief pitching, upending No. 2-ranked Arizona State, 10-6, Saturday afternoon at Evans Diamond. The winning pitcher was junior left-hander Chris Petrini, who entered the game in the first inning (2-3, 4.2 innings, six hits, two runs, two walks, three strikeouts) and sophomore right-hander Brian Diemer earned his first collegiate save (3.2 innings, three hits, one run, no walks, five strikeouts). Junior center fielder Brett Jackson (3-for-5, triple, two RBI) and freshman right fielder Danny Oh (3-for-5, RBI) had three hits apiece, while sophomore first baseman Mark Canha was 2-for-3 with four RBI and junior designated hitter Blake Smith was 2-for-5 with a home run and two RBI. The Golden Bears, who pounded out 16 hits, improved to 19-21 overall and 6-11 in the Pac-10. The Sun Devils dropped to 30-9 overall and 14-3 in the conference.

The two teams will play the rubber match on Sunday as ASU defeated Cal, 3-1, on Friday. It will be the first time this season the Sun Devils will be playing a third game to determine a conference series. The Bears also gave standout ASU left-hander Josh Spence his first loss of the season (8-1, 3.1 innings, nine hits, six runs, four walks, four strikeouts).

The Sun Devils had scored three runs in the top of the first inning off of Cal’s freshman right-hander Dixon Anderson on RBI singles by Kole Calhoun and Matt Newman, and an RBI ground out by Zack McPhee. Cal answered with a run in the second inning on a two-out RBI single by Jackson. .

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Cal loses to ASU:

BERKELEY, CALIF. – The California baseball team gave No. 2-ranked Arizona State all it could ask for before falling, 6-5, Sunday afternoon at Evans Diamond. The Golden Bears got within a run in the bottom of the eighth inning on a two-run triple by freshman right fielder Danny Oh, but failed to score Oh from third base with one out to fall to 19-22 overall and 6-12 in the Pac-10. The Sun Devils improved to 31-9 overall and 15-3 in the conference. ASU won the series after winning 3-1 on Friday and losing to Cal, 10-6, Saturday.

In the top of the eighth inning, ASU’s Riccio Torrez hit a two-out double that went off the top of Cal sophomore outfielder Dwight Tanaka’s glove and allowed Matt Newman to score and give the Sun Devils a 6-3 advantage. In the bottom of the eighth Oh hit a one-out triple off of ASU’s Mitchell Lambson (6-2, 2.0 innings, three hits, two runs, one walk, three strikeouts) to the right center field gap, scoring junior designated Blake Smith and senior third baseman Michael Brady to get the Bears within 6-5. Unfortunately for Cal, Jordan Swagerty, after hitting Dylan Tonneson with a pitch, was able to get Tanaka to pop-up a bunt attempt to first base and get junior center fielder Brett Jackson to ground out sharply to first base. Swagerty got the Bears out in order in the bottom of the ninth to earn his fourth save of the year.

The losing pitcher for Cal was junior left-hander Michael Bugary (3-3), who replaced starter Kevin Miller in the third inning and threw a career-high 4.2 innings with two hits, two runs, three walks and six strikeouts.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 10:14 PM PDT reply actions  

Good DBD Twist. It gets a little incoherent at times but you did a good job. Made me interested in the music.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 11:04 PM PDT reply actions  

The worst part is this is the highly edited version.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

Edited for grammar?

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

If the second half was anything like the first half, I would have left, said Adam Theis

That part is mostly what I’m referencing. But the performance sounds amazing. Are they doing it again?

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 26, 2009 11:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could see how thats confusing, but its like:

If the sky was dark, I would have taken my flashlight and then walked to a lighter part of the earth.

You have to think of the second one as a serial comma.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 7:29 AM PDT up reply actions  

JO on the draft.

"I was a little disappointed how Cal guys don’t get much respect," Follett said. "We have a lot of good players here. I don’t know what it is."

In the case of Follett, it appears his recurring neck issues may have contributed to his fall in the draft. Most projections had him going in the fourth round. Follett’s agent, Kenny Chapman, said some teams told him his client failed their physicals.

Follett has been dealing with neck pain ever since he arrived at Cal and it got worse when he suffered a neck stinger in 2007. Follett has been in and out of the training room ever since.

Follett held a conference call with the local media Sunday night. I’ll have more thorough coverage on Follett on Monday.

Morrah was a little tougher to get a gauge on because some mock drafts had him going as high as the fourth round while others had him being totally undrafted. Morrah said he was still happy he left after his junior year because it will allow his ailing grandmother a chance to watch him play professional football.

Morrah also will be re-united with former Cal teammates Brandon Mebane and Justin Forsett in Seattle.

I spoke with Morrah one-on-one and he also held a conference call Sunday. More on him as well Monday.

I also spoke with Williams on Sunday night and he was understandably disappointed. His agent, Tony Fleming, said there are a couple of teams interested in signing Williams and his client should have a home Monday. Again, more on him to come.

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“I don’t really know what it was,” Follett said. “It’s definitely humbling. It’s something I’m sure I needed. It happened for a reason.”

Follett was one of only two Cal players taken on the second day of the draft. Tight end Cameron Morrah was taken 13 picks after Follett by the Seattle Seahawks.

Morrah surprised many by declaring for the draft after his junior season. He said much of the motivation for doing so was so his ailing grandmother can watch him play in the NFL.

“I have no regrets about my decision,” Morrah said. “I thought I’d be picked a little earlier. But I’m getting into a great situation in Seattle.”

“They’re going to pay for it,” he said. “I’m going to hit those players and take them out of the game. I’m excited.”

Mack glad he stayed an extra year.

Lions coach Schwartz at his post-draft press conference.

• On LB Zack Follett looking like a thumper in the middle

"He’s played everywhere. At that point we drafted a good football player that was productive and at that point was on the board too long. He’s extremely productive. I guess the best words you’d describe him are good football player – versatile, he’s played inside, he’s played outside, even lines up as a pass rusher with his hand in the dirt."

• On whether he’d use Follett all over

"Probably not going to use him as a defensive end.
"We’ll probably take a look at what he looks like in this camp and maybe use this camp to evaluate if we’ll have him inside or have him outside. I mean literally, he plays everywhere in their defense and he’s a great effort player and he’s been extremely productive in the PAC 10."

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 26, 2009 11:52 PM PDT reply actions   1 recs

As usual, excellent quotes

I’m stealing some of that for the draft post.

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 2:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

Man, it sure is dark outside for Monday.

JAI HO!

by Rishi on Apr 26, 2009 11:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Someone may have already asked this, but ...

Has Pete Carroll apologized yet to Mark Sanchez?

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Apr 27, 2009 7:55 AM PDT reply actions  

Sanchez apparently said there something like “Pete Carroll was trying to test me by acting like that” or something weird. some lie that was incredibly unbelievable. I dont have the link, I thought HydroTech saw it and might be able to better comment.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 7:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Hello, my name is Fire Starky and I am a Raiders Fan

All together now…“Hi Fire Starky”

“With the 7th pick in 2009 NFL Draft, the Oakland Raiders select Darius Hey-”

Thats as far as I got before I screamed “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO”

The wife actually ran into the room thinking I had stabbed myself in the eye with a pen.

When will Al Davis die? When???

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by Fire Starkey on Apr 27, 2009 8:51 AM PDT reply actions  

Thats as far as I got before I screamed "NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"

The wife actually ran into the room thinking I had stabbed myself in the eye with a pen.

LOL. Al Davis is a joke.

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by HydroTech on Apr 27, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

He passed his sell by date about 25 years ago. I’m not one to switch teams, I’m a Raider fan for life. But Al is absolutely killing me. What an idiotic draft.

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by Fire Starkey on Apr 27, 2009 9:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

So are we going to get a name change to Fire Davis?

Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...

by yellow fever on Apr 27, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

Nope, unfortunately you’ll need to pry his cold, dead hands from the Raiders. Sob.

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by Fire Starkey on Apr 27, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions  

Heyward-Bey sounds like it should be a body of water located near somewhere south of Oakland…

by HolmoePhobe on Apr 27, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wasn’t Heyward-Bey behind the Your Black Muslim Bakery murders?

Stanfurd Delendum Est.

by Olsonist on Apr 27, 2009 5:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t that how people say hello in Jamaica?

“Heyward-bey happenin mon?”

BEAU SWEENEY DRINKS ZIMA

by Spazzy Mcgee on Apr 27, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

That assassination totes took place outside my brothers apartment in Oakland. Go Oakland!

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions  

And down the street from mine.

by turkey on Apr 28, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

how did you like the second round pick that most people had going undrafted?

Heaps and Hinder...come on down!

by carp on Apr 27, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Eh. He would’ve been drafted. After the first 2 rounds, mock drafts never have even close to the right players being selected. That’s why you saw so many blocking TEs before Morrah

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by Thoroughbred on Apr 27, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think he was rated in the 75-125 area and he went 40. Sigh.

Of course if they both turn out to be world beaters all is well, sadly I think time has shown Al’s penchant for speed above ability has been a disaster.

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by Fire Starkey on Apr 27, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

he might be good…or he might be James Jett. Prolly could have had him in round 2, no? I’m uneasy about Crabtree…he already said “getting dressed was his favorite part about football” or something of that ilk.

Heaps and Hinder...come on down!

by carp on Apr 27, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions  

The worry about Crabtree...

is his head. He sounds like a doofus. However, his football ability is outstanding and I have to think Singletary will get the most out of him (if anyone can). I think the Niners got a steal.

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by Fire Starkey on Apr 27, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions  

He does sound like a doofus.

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by Thoroughbred on Apr 27, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions  

Just like Jerry. and I’m not even making a joke, Rice was obsessive about his appearance, on and off the field.

So naturally I’m expecting him to shatter every major receiving record in a 20 year career

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by norcalnick on Apr 27, 2009 8:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

On Facebook, how do you put somebody on limited profile?

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 9:12 AM PDT reply actions  

Go to the bottom of your home page, click “Privacy.” Click the link at the top that says “Click here to go to privacy settings.” Click “Profile” and from here you can edit how much any given user can see of your profile.

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

It gives me a list of drop down menus that allow global things like “Friends of Friends” can see this thing or that. But how do I do it for a single user?

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

Above those menus is a search box next to text saying “See how a friend sees your profile.” Put in the name friend you don’t want to have access to most of your personal info and edit accordingly.

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

I see 2 items there, exit that viewing mode or edit profile settings. If I click on the second, it just takes me back to the first page with the drop down menus. Am I stupid?

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Better way to do it....

Click Friends on the upper bar.

On the left hand side of the screen, click the friends group you want, most likely Limited Profile.

Now there should be an option above your friends in the list, where you can enter friends to add to that list.

--AddictedToQuack, SBNation's Oregon Ducks blog

by jtlight on Apr 27, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im confused. I didnt have a friend group titled Limited Profile. I created one and added the person to that list. Now, what is the next step? Thanks for all the help, btw!

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think I gave you bad directions (as in, I didn’t preview them before I told you). Try going to the privacy > profile page I directed you to earlier and click the drop-down menu next to “personal information.” Go to “customize” and from here you can put various names into the “except these people” list.

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks. The confusion was the first drop down menu doesnt allow for that, while all others do. So, I just looked at the first and then got confsued. But problem (hopefully) solved.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

Why are you doing this to me? What did I do?

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

It’s because I’m so smug! It’s something you will understand more fully when you age.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 10:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Isn’t the new facebook great?

by HolmoePhobe on Apr 27, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions  

It was confusing at first. Im getting the hangof it now. Ive never had to put anybody on limited profile before.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I met the COO of facebook on Saturday and told him (jokingly) that the new facebook sucked. His response was something along the lines of “Yeah, I haven’t heard that 60 times already today”.

by HolmoePhobe on Apr 27, 2009 11:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

Im stunned at how serious people take the internet. I mean I guess I shouldnt be stunned considering how serious people seem to take parts of this site (i.e. DBB) but they FREAKED THE FUCK OUT over Facebook changing as if it owed them something to stay a certain way.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

I was annoyed but I didn’t freak out. It really felt like a backwards move. The previous change was a sideways move.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think it was pretty obvious to him that I was joking.

by HolmoePhobe on Apr 27, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

We’ll have to contact him! Only way to find out.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m starting to think that the new site works better with a lot of friends. The old site was getting chaotic for me and the move, I think, successfully provides a better (yet necessarily shallower) experience as it better manages of the quantity of information that comes with more users and connections.

by zoonews on Apr 27, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

Is Bear Pascoe really better than Cameron Morrah?

I was a little disappointed that the 49ers didn’t draft Cameron Morrah….I don’t know much about this Pascoe guy, he’s a local product too originally from the Bay Area and played at Fresno St, I guess. But still I would have liked to have seen Morrah in a niners jersey next year.

I've lost the Nyan in me

by dballisloose on Apr 27, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions  

They wanted a blocking TE

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

hard to go wrong with a blocking TE named Bear.

The Niners already have Vernon Davis and Morrah-esque Delanie Walker.

I’m a little confused about the Niners trading their 2nd & 4th round pick for 2010’s 1st round pick of Carolina’s (I think?).

Ballsy of McClueless considering he’s on the hotseat.

Heaps and Hinder...come on down!

by carp on Apr 27, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I think the trade was fine. Carolina resigned Delhomme to a 5-year deal! Prepare for a step ack.

Also, there wasn’t a lot of good players I’d want on the 49ers at that point if they didn’t like Everette Brown (which they didn’t, obviously)

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by Thoroughbred on Apr 27, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

slow day today

Everyone take the week off or something?

Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...

by yellow fever on Apr 27, 2009 9:46 AM PDT reply actions  

i don’t have anything to talk about. Except that I dislike live 105’s new morning show.

They're after our precious bodily fluids

by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Vinnie Del Negro please you with his moves on Sunday?

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 9:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

meh, im tired of turning into an armchair coach. it just raises the blood pressure and never really helps, and I should be enjoying the experience, not getting mad. one thing though, at the end of the first half he called a timeout with .8 sec’s left, but didn’t advance the ball to mid-court? after a timeout can’t you always advance the ball to midcourt?

it was an exciting game, but i wish the bulls would have pulled away in the third when Boston was cold. instead they turned it over. the worst part is that most of them were completely unforced.

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

You can only advance the ball to mid-court if the ball hasn’t already been taken in from out of bounds yet.

Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...

by yellow fever on Apr 27, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

I disliked live 105’s old morning show. i’ve been listening to NPR in the mornings for about 4 years now.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Apr 27, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions  

perhaps the pig flu has invaded CBG

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions  

I blame rollonubears.

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Understandable.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 10:49 AM PDT up reply actions  

Aren’t you supposed to be in school? Are you still sick with “anything but lupus” syndrome?

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I am having an MRI done sometime this week.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

Could it be lupus?

the Maharg is above catch phrases

by Maharg on Apr 27, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not completely sure what lupus is but I am going with no.

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by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

Chowder, missed your posting on Friday about Skyline Chili. I once took my cousin from California to Skyline when he was visiting me, and to this day (years later) he says “I can’t believe you forced me to eat their food”. Needless to say, it ain’t everyone’s cup of tea, particularly if they think they’re actually going to get something that tastes like chili.

That being said, I like their coneys, but the x-ways on spaghetti is meh. You having a 3-way on the first day and a 5-way the second (which comes out to a beastly 8-way) is pretty darn strong, tho.

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by CALumbus Bear on Apr 27, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

i have family out there, and my parents both grew up in suburban cincinnati. whenever, we’d visit we hit up skyline, gold star, or blue ash. i love that slop.

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions  

I bet you like Montgomery Inn ribs, then. I sure do. We even have them up in Columbus now.

Gold star, not so much. But it sure is fun to take noobs to these “chili” places and see the looks on their faces when they take their first bite.

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by CALumbus Bear on Apr 27, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions  

I echo twists thoughts on music moving one.

it is awesome. Some my most moving experiences have come at odd times, and involve when the Cal Band gets back to it’s latin disco roots. (needless to say, alcohol/other dietary supplements have likely played a role here).

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Apr 27, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions  

This Kind Of Bothers Me

I’m reading miller’s pac-10 blog, and he is reviewing USC’s spring game. All that is fine and dandy, quite dandy some might say, but then there is this:

Freshman Mat Barkley, who draft guru Mel Kiper already is touting as a future No. 1 overall NFL draft pick, completed 12 of 20 for 124 yards with no touchdowns and two interceptions.

this isn’t a criticism of Miller or his writing, more on Mel Kiper. The kid hasn’t even played a single snap in college, and he is already the number one pick? Patience, please.

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 10:17 AM PDT reply actions  

I think he means for this class he’s the #1 prospect… nobody has played a single snap

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by Thoroughbred on Apr 27, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

i realize that, but it bothers me that they are already gauging high school players draft stock. i’d prefer to wait and see how they perform in games, before rating their draft stock.

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 10:36 AM PDT up reply actions  

If this isn’t the year to break the winless-in-LA curse, I don’t know what is.

How bad was the [UCLA] offense? Consider this factoid from the LA Times: “The offense had 50 yards in the first 44 plays, which included three lost fumbles, one interception and three sacks.”

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 10:46 AM PDT reply actions  

Comments make me laugh.

103andCounting (4/27/2009 at 11:13 AM) Report Violation
UCLA’s defense will be amazing this year and next!!!!!!
The new freshmen will come in a start something amazing for the offense.

Negative comments by other people, just show how scared they really are. THE COACH has changed the culture of the program in just one year. Nice to see all the great coaches and 100 players at the Spring Game at the Rose Bowl last Saturday.

“knoxchris10,” fighting in practice shows INTENSITY AND COMPETITIVE SPIRIT between players!!!!!!

GO BRUINS!!!!!

FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT!!!!!

knoxchris10 (4/27/2009 at 10:45 AM) Report Violation
Ru-roh.. How about Neuheisel praising his teams unity on national radio the day after he has to lecture them about fighting in practice. He and Chow were made for each other. Lying, ego and condescension is a great way to build a program. Can’t wait for the close-up shots when their offense goes 3 and out most the year.

by CaliforniaBone on Apr 27, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

SOMEONE BETTER CLEAN OUT THE PASSION BUCKET

Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...

by yellow fever on Apr 27, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Mountain Mike's

I was talking food after dinner with a waitress at Paragon at the Claremont, she said if I liked Zachary’s I HAVE to go to Mountain Mike’s. Does anybody know anything about this joint?

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 10:49 AM PDT reply actions  

OMG MOUNTAIN MIKES IS AMAZING!!!!

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pizza Hut

If you like Mountain Mike’s, you HAVE to go Pizza Hut.

by zoonews on Apr 27, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

LOL

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by Thoroughbred on Apr 27, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions  

OMG PIZZA HUT IS EVERN BETTER!

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

Little Caesars

If you like Pizza Hut, you HAVE to go to Little Caesars.

by zoonews on Apr 27, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions  

Pizza Chicago, for the south bay people.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

He has a master’s degree in chemical engineering?!

by HolmoePhobe on Apr 27, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I’d read that before. But in reading his Wikipedia, I’m insanely pumped up for this. STONE COLD LOCK FOR BEST PICTURE OF 2010…BECAUSE STONE COLD SAID SO!

Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...

by yellow fever on Apr 27, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions  

best part of that movie is this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gisele_Iti%C3%A9

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions  

Excerpts from Follett’s conference call with the media yesterday.

Disappointed in slipping in the draft? "I’m just happy I got picked. I’m not disappointed at all. I’m really blessed to be playing in the NFL. I can’t wait for the opportunity to get out there and play. I’m just glad to be drafted. I would have been a little more disappointed if I had to go free agent. I got to see my name up on that board on TV."

On his immediate role in Detroit: "I’m sure I’ll go in there right away on special teams and contribute. I think that’s my way of making the 53-man roster. That’s my goal."

On the neck problems that may have caused his stock to fall: "I was thinking about retiring if I didn’t get drafted. If it’s really that big of a deal that nobody wants to draft me, then screw it. It’s something I’ve dealt with. I have a high pain tolerance. I"m used to playing with it. I don’t think it will slow me down at all. I’m going to play until I can’t play anymore."



Whether he learned anything from the experience?: "I look at it as, what is God trying to teach me in situations like this? I knew that I was a talented enough person. This just humbled the crap out of me. I’m not going to be going in with a big head thinking I’m this or that. It’s going to make me a stronger person."

On the significance of going in the seventh round: "I’m going to have to run a little harder in practice. It’s a lot easier to get cut now as a seventh-round pick. I’m going to be on thin ice. I’m not worried about making the team. I see myself as a second-round pick, talent-wise. I have no doubt I can play with these guys. I got knocked down because of injury issues. That’s out of my hands. I’m just going to go out there and do what i have to do."

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 11:48 AM PDT reply actions  

Wilner - WRONG

From Feldman:

• How did the recruiting star system translate into the top 10 picks of this year’s NFL draft? It was a bit shaky as Jon Wilner writes, although QB Matthew Stafford was on the money.

As in the case with more things with recruiting, you do have to take much of the info with a grain of salt. Wilner notes that B.J. Raji was a “Jersey kid, he visited Rutgers but didn’t get an offer.” That’s not accurate. In January, I spoke to the former RU assistant who chased Raji and the Scarlet Knights had him near the top of their entire recruiting board and he was certainly offered.

Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...

by yellow fever on Apr 27, 2009 11:53 AM PDT reply actions  

Mike Leach speaks out

Here:

Leach said that Cleveland Browns coach Eric Mangini is to blame for former Texas Tech wide receiver Michael Crabtree falling to the 10th pick in the first round. Reports out of Cleveland said that the Browns didn’t like Crabtree’s attitude when he visited the team prior to the draft.

“Michael Crabtree has been more successful as a receiver than that guy as a coach at this point,” Leach said of Mangini, according to the Sacramento Bee.

Mega burn!

Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...

by yellow fever on Apr 27, 2009 11:55 AM PDT reply actions  

OH, SNAP

BOOM! ROASTED!

NAILED IT!

I can keep going with this.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 11:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

BTW, Adam Theis, stunningly, found out about this post (somehow) and emailed me to thank me. I totes plotzed! Im still formulating a response. Itll probably be something like “IM NOT WORTHY! IM NOT WORTHY! IM NOT WORTHY!”

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

Sorry, Twist. I can’t read posts about Jazz music… This was the first DBD I haven’t read =O

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by Thoroughbred on Apr 27, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

It really was an intriguing post. It made me want to see the show he was talking about.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

News for Avi

John Clayton:

The Buffalo Bills didn’t address their need for a tackle after trading left tackle Jason Peters to Philadelphia. This makes you wonder whether the Bills are waiting for the Cincinnati Bengals to cut left tackle Levi Jones. The Bengals will trade or cut Jones because they selected Andre Smith in the first round. Meanwhile, the Bills picked Eric Wood in the first round. Buffalo plans to play him at guard but could use him at center because it drafted guard Andy Levitre in the second round. Jones could offer an option at left tackle that might allow Langston Walker to move back to right tackle. Jones remains on the Bengals’ roster, but not for long.

Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...

by yellow fever on Apr 27, 2009 11:59 AM PDT reply actions  

That's what I've been telling T-Bred

Walker is not a true left tackle. He was okay last year, but once he faced decent pass rushes he was overwhelmed.

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

PTHPPPPPPPPTTTTTTTTTT =P

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by Thoroughbred on Apr 27, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

I love Mike Leach

LINK

Leach’s record-setting quarterback, Graham Harrell, wasn’t among the 256 players picked in the seven rounds of the NFL draft. Meanwhile, Texas A&M’s Stephen McGee, who didn’t start much of his senior season, went in the fourth round (the 101st pick) to the Dallas Cowboys.

“I’m happy for Stephen McGee,” Leach told The Dallas Morning News. “The Dallas Cowboys like him more than his coaches at A&M did.”

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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions  

Same article that I posted above.

Still happy over the fact that the Nets signed Ryan Anderson. Now if only they can sign Leon Powe after this year...

by yellow fever on Apr 27, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Oh crap

Whoooooops.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Speaking of drafts...

8 Pac-10 bball players declare early

– DeMar DeRozan, USC: The 6-7 freshman small forward is regarded as one of the best athletes in the draft. It’s no surprise that he put his name in the pool, especially after finishing the season strong. Likely a lottery pick, he won’t be back.

– Taj Gibson, USC: Reportedly, Gibson has not hired an agent. But he’s 23 and the clock is ticking against him. The 6-9 junior post seems likely to return to college only if the scouts warn him off and convince him he won’t be picked at all. That’s not going to happen, so don’t expect him back.

– Daniel Hackett, USC: This move has many of the draft experts confounded, because the 6-5 junior point guard may not be drafted. He’s reportedly hired an agent, so the deal is done. Some believe he will wind up playing professionally in Italy, where he was born while his father, Rudy, played pro ball. But Italy would be there a year from now, so go figure.

– James Harden, Arizona State: The sophomore guard and Pac-10 Player of the Year was a sure thing to leave. He’s projected as a lottery pick, perhaps a top-5 selection. He is strong, skilled and added a jump shot this year to his ability to score in traffic. An obvious move, a smart move.

– Jordan Hill, Arizona: The 6-10 junior center made huge strides in his game this season and is projected as a lottery pick in what is a fairly tepid draft, especially for big men. There was no reason for Hill not to declare for the draft.

– Jrue Holiday, UCLA: The freshman guard has not signed with an agent and could return, at which point he would become the Bruins’ leader next season. He was judged something of an under-achiever by some this season, but coach Ben Howland’s system didn’t allow Holiday to put up the kind of numbers most expected. Many scouts believe he will blossom at the pro level, so he could elevate his status with good showings in pre-draft workouts. Seem like a 50-50 proposition.

– Nic Wise, Arizona: The junior guard put his name in the draft because he had nothing to lose. But unlike his two teammates, Wise has not hired an agent, and he is expected to be back in Tucson next season.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions  

Wow. The Pac-10 is going to be ultra weak next year… but it seems like the ENTIRE NATION won’t have too many dominant guys too

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by Thoroughbred on Apr 27, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

We'll see

Not all of these guys have agents yet. Half of them probably will come back.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

I only expect Wise and Holiday back

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by Thoroughbred on Apr 27, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t know about Holiday.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

USC’s APR is going to suffer.

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by HydroTech on Apr 27, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

There are numbers lower than zero!?!

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS

by norcalnick on Apr 27, 2009 9:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes. Negative zero.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 9:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is a real chance we are favorites in the Pac next year. Exciting.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

Quotes from Morrah’s conference call

"They said they wanted me to get in there and compete for a spot. That’s what I’m going to do. I’m just going to go out there and compete to the best of my abilities."

Disappointed in going in the seventh round?: "I’m not disappointed. Everything happens for a reason. Honestly, I felt like this was the best situation for me."

On his decision to leave after his junior year: "I still believe I made the right decision. I’m just focusing on getting out to Seattle and competing. I did everything I had to do to put myself in the best position."

On joining former Bears Brandon Mebane and Justin Forsett on the Seahawks: "It’s always good to go somewhere where you know a couple people. It makes the adjustment a little easier. I’m grateful for that."

JO talks to Williams

His reaction: "It’s definitely a humbling experience. It was a wild draft. A lot of people went in spots they weren’t expected to go."

Whether he was surprised: "I was shocked. I thought there was a chance I could slip but not that i wouldn’t get drafted at all. Everything happens for a reason. Patience is what I need right now, and I’ll go from there."

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 1:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Steven Threet transferring from Michigan

To ASU

Quarterback Steven Threet, a redshirt freshman who started eight games for Michigan last season, has decided to transfer to Arizona State, a source close to Threet said Monday.

Threet also considered Oregon State but developed a relationship with the Arizona State coaching staff and had an excellent visit over the weekend.

.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 1:05 PM PDT reply actions  

Swine Flu Idea:

Put all the sick people next to the druglords. 2 birds one stone.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Apr 27, 2009 2:32 PM PDT reply actions  

All they did was steal your car

Now you want to wipe them off the face of the earth?

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by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 2:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know who stole my car?!?

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Apr 27, 2009 3:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Avi’s said too much

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by Thoroughbred on Apr 27, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

An Interesting Link

http://www.cougcenter.com/2009/4/22/849444/wsu-at-risk-of-being-voted-out-of

The athletics program at WSU is the only way this membership is achieved. Our annual budget is currently $14 million below the next lowest member in the conference. If we do not take action to create revenue and level this playing field, we may be at some point in the future be facing another vote. I will do everything that I can on my watch to prevent such an action. This is why I am pushing for Phase III of the renovation [To Martin Stadium] and am considering the Apple Cup move.

Could the Pac-10 say no more to the Cougar?

They're after our precious bodily fluids

by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 3:20 PM PDT reply actions  

Could carp be write??

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

Also, right.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 3:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

I wonder who we would take in if we need an additional One school. I vote for University of British Columbia, for no other reason than I like Vancouver.

They're after our precious bodily fluids

by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 3:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

yes, that is a whim

and it makes no sense

They're after our precious bodily fluids

by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

UBC is trying to enter the NCAA as a division 2 team. They would be easily the biggest division 2 school.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hawaii damnit

Gives us an excuse for a Honolulu road trip.

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Vancouver London or Amsterdam vrs. USC or Oregon, let me get one home game next year

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

vacation-wise, it would be awesome. Plus, Hawaii is the Pacific school geographically speaking. Athletics-wise…no.

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by carp on Apr 27, 2009 3:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been saying this for a while….people always are like noooo their stadium is crappy and their fans suck. Their stadium could be a fucking abandoned pit mine for all I care, it’s HAWAII, people.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Apr 27, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

isn’t that were they had the Pro Bowl all those years?

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by carp on Apr 27, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

But, to be fair, their stadium is crappy and their fans suck.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 4:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I could care less because I’ll be under water looking at coral reefs OR ON A DOLPHIN DOIN FLIPS AND SHIT.

WHAT PART OF THIS DO YOU NOT GET?!

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Apr 27, 2009 5:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

I don’t get how This. relates to the A-11 offense.

Double memed.

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by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 6:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

Does carp know something we don’t? Also, more should be made of Pullman’s awful location.

by paleodan on Apr 27, 2009 3:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

Carp made a fanpost about possible Pac-10 expansion ideas. This is somewhat related.

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

I have a mean jake serve.

Heaps and Hinder...come on down!

by carp on Apr 27, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions  

and you transform female tennis players into swimsuit models…

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

sand volleyball people…I’m not making this stuff up.

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by carp on Apr 27, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

you mean ASU and USC don’t already clean house in Beach Volleyball?

legit question: where does the america’s sand volleyball talent come from? isn’t it pretty much all SoCal?

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think so…plus Tempe12.com.

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by carp on Apr 27, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

maybe

for those that z’d through that, I posed a question that ruffled many a mod’s feathers:

How many bad years Wazzu years would it take for them to get the boot?

I didn’t know the financial numbers behind this that Stein mentions, but I’m not all that surprised. Instead of a demotion, I see it as a better opportunity for the Cougs to become pertinent again.

I’ll be writing a fanpost on this issue.

Heaps and Hinder...come on down!

by carp on Apr 27, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

if 2 rose bowls in 10 years isn't "pertinent"

then what is 1 in 50?

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by CBKWit on Apr 27, 2009 3:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

for a historical perspective, your argument is valid as well.

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by carp on Apr 27, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think its more a factor that their future is incredibly bleak

plus according to the article, we very nearly voted them out in the 60’s

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by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Uncalled for.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think pertinence isn’t so much the issue as drawing 8 fans per game and selling zero merchandise.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Apr 27, 2009 4:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

Whatever bro

You’re not taking my Cougar plush doll for more than $20.

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 4:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

The WSU logo always looks more like WC to me.

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 4:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

DUB SEE GANGSTA!

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by TwistNHook on Apr 27, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Apparently they used to be WSC: Washington State College, with a very similar logo.

by Yes We Cannon on Apr 27, 2009 5:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

their bball attendance (not to mention their team’s record) has been better than ours the last couple years. Their fans get out. Hopefully we can fill up Haas this year because it is rocking when we do.

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by CBKWit on Apr 27, 2009 4:03 PM PDT up reply actions  

rec’d for lolwut

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah but we sell a toooon of merchandise because the Cal brand is one people want to be associated with. Wazzu is one people want to distance themselves from.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Apr 27, 2009 4:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

eh

as someone from western washington (maybe this has changed and Maharg can refute it), coug gear is pretty common in that side of the state (not to mention the east side). They have a pretty loyal fanbase.

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by CBKWit on Apr 27, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

Loyal is not the same as big or wealthy.

Also, how many people from the opposing team travel to a game in Pullman? Hell, they’re having trouble getting people from Seattle to make the trip.

by paleodan on Apr 27, 2009 4:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Zactly, it’s not a problem of fan loyalty…more demographics. Unlike Stanford.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Apr 27, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

right

but they can basically fill their stadium with students and the townsfolk (when you’re 90 miles from the nearest city, you have to call them townsfolk). Of course, if they want to expand their stadium (and they probably do), they’ll need more butts in seats, and you’re right, they’re not going to get opposing fans to make the trip (it is a pain in the ass).

As for alumni base, how big is their school? Is it smaller than OSU?

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by CBKWit on Apr 27, 2009 4:30 PM PDT up reply actions  

WSU is not a bad school…it is bigger than OSU and has a much bigger endowment (according to wikipedia). I just think right now it’s location will keep WSU from having a successful (and money-making) athletic department.

Corvallis is a bigger town than Pullman, and has become a more central location in Oregon. Since 1980, Corvallis has grown 10,165 people (total 51,125) and Pullman only 2,829 people (total 26,408). Also the median household income in Benton Co (Corvallis and surrounding area) is $41,897 and in Whitman Co (Pullman and area) is only $28,584.

by paleodan on Apr 27, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

good info

comparing the two, it seems WSU has the advantage in numbers (more people and endowment) but OSU certainly has the geographic advantage. The geographic advantage is more pronounced in terms of things like attendance than in something like recruiting, I would guess, because both are much more similar to each other than they are to LA, Bay Area, Seattle etc.

WSU has more athletic history than OSU, but OSU has a bigger advantage right now: coaches. Riley is very good, and while Wulff may turn out to be a good coach, he didn’t get a good start and is way behind Riley. Losing Bennett was a big blow for the cougs, but Ken Bone is a good coach as well and I would expect them to remain competitive. Still, Robinson showed he could win in the Pac-10 and has a monster class coming in – I imagine he has a pretty easy time selling recruits on playing for the president’s favorite team.

Coaches remain the big factor in this equation, and the primary reason that both OSU is enjoying success and that I’m unwilling to say that WSU will never be successful again. Price and Bennett have shown very, very recently than WSU can be very, very successful, by anyone’s definition – sweet 16s and rose bowls. Now it’s certainly possible that Wulff and/or Bone will fail to replicate this success, but if they don’t, the next guy might. It’s been done before, under the same circumstances, and I don’t see any change to indicate that it can’t be done in the future.

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by CBKWit on Apr 27, 2009 6:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

The other important comparison

Is that OSU football had a losing season every year from 1971 to 1998 and still stayed in the PAC-10.

But the issue WSU is having right now isn’t about academics or athletic success (winning games)…it is about money. And I don’t see a good way for WSU to start making more money stuck as it is in its terrible location.

by paleodan on Apr 27, 2009 6:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

what if times have changed, and their relatively recent success is an aberration? The exception, not the norm? Let’s look at a team that’s near & dear to my heart: The Oakland A’s.

The A’s were on top of the world from 88-90. Attendance was very high, the A’s signed and retained players, and everyone loved the Haas family. Then they sucked for the better part of the 90s, and Al Davis built a monstrosity in the OF. Meanwhile, the other Bay Area team somehow built a new ballpark on the water with a big fat mortgage and Greg Anderson leading the way. The A’s kind of returned to glory in the 2000s but fans still stayed away from 1990 numbers and even resulted in the owner tarping off the top shelf and declaring the A’s the future home team of City X.

With Wazzu, sadly, there’s limited to no potential. The finances just aren’t the same. If a good/great coach does come around, he’ll be gone as soon as the next desirable location is found as we’ve seen with Price and Bennett.

There are two possible options for Wazzu: stay, and expect more of the same (having the odd Cinderella year followed by heartache involving a coach leaving and down years) or move to a non-BCS conference that will allow them a better chance of winning. Winning brings in $ unless of course your fanbase has withered away from the stress associated with the Cinderalla/heartache cycle.

Cal always had potential, and it’s not like every year was a bad year from their last Rose Bowl appearance.

OSU, who lost the great Riley once, is perhaps 3-4 bad coaching hires away from suffering a similar fate. Unlike Cal, they won’t have the superior academics, location, and alumni base. And ‘furd might shit can football altogether so they won’t have to cut a random NC sport that brings in Director’s Cups (lol wut). Who knows how this will play out.

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by carp on Apr 28, 2009 6:53 AM PDT up reply actions  

we've had this argument before

and my points remain the same:

“With Wazzu, sadly, there’s limited to no potential.”

We’ve seen the potential, within the last decade. The potential is rose bowls and sweet 16s. I would love to actually accomplish this at Cal, instead of just having the “potential” to do so.

I think, as Cal fans, saying another Pac-10 program (particularly the last one other than SC to go to a rose bowl) has limited to no potential is extremely arrogant. People said the same thing about Cal for different reasons (academics too hard for athletes, no institutional support from the administration, no fan support, competing with two pro franchises in the area and a “superior” athletic institution across the bay), but here we are, being almost as successful as WSU was 5+ years ago. Hell, many big profs on campus wanted us to follow the precedent set by U of Chicago and abandon sports altogether.

If you could show that something fundamental about WSU had changed since their very recent success, then you would have an argument. But just because you can’t understand why they succeed in the very recent past does not mean they will never succeed again in the future.

As a final point, I somehow doubt that WSU is going to make more money leaving the pac-10. That’s the point of the big conferences: to make money. I’m glad we get to share revenue with SC and LA and I’ll bet WSU is too.

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by CBKWit on Apr 28, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

reading between Stern’s lines, their $14 billion below the next Pac10 team and this number is either bigger than it used to be, or it now costs more to be competitive. It could be both or both + other issues I don’t know about. The point: – $14 billion is a big number to them and Official Rumblings are starting to happen.

Luckily, we won’t have to decide on Wazzu. Perhaps they’ll show compassion…or perhaps they’ll have $$$$ in their eyes.

Heaps and Hinder...come on down!

by carp on Apr 28, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions  

A) It’s Sterk, not Stern
B) It’s $14 million, not billion.

I bring this up because I feel you have your opinion (WSU should be replaced) but you’re not carefully or honestly examining the issue – you’re just trying to make your point. We argued about this a couple weeks ago, way before this quote from Sterk came out…so what was your rationale then? This quote seems to be at the crux of your argument, but you started arguing this point a while back and this quote came out within the last 48 hours.

My take on this is that Sterk is trying to light a fire under his donors and the people who didn’t want to move the game to Seattle. Maybe I’m wrong and the Pac-10 is going to take a vote on membership soon (I’ve heard NOTHING about this from any media source), but you may want to be careful what you wish for. It was less than a decade ago that Cal was 1-10, hadn’t been to a rose bowl in 40+ years, had the worst facilities and worst attendance in the Pac-10, all while WSU was in the midst of 3 consecutive 10 win seasons including a Pac-10 championship and rose bowl berth.

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by CBKWit on Apr 28, 2009 7:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

Perspective, your doing it right.

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by TwistNHook on Apr 28, 2009 8:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hey now. I know who that was a shot at.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 28, 2009 9:46 PM PDT up reply actions  

You fighting for carp’s honor now?

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by TwistNHook on Apr 28, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Well you said that to me too.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 29, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions  

thanks rollonu.

Heaps and Hinder...come on down!

by carp on Apr 29, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

at least we offer opinions…and not just stand around enjoying our mediocore conference led by Hansen and now Tennis Champ.

Heaps and Hinder...come on down!

by carp on Apr 29, 2009 7:55 AM PDT up reply actions  

You gonna march in protest outside the Pac10 office now?

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by TwistNHook on Apr 29, 2009 8:02 AM PDT up reply actions  

heh…I might call him or email. I might even drop by unannounced. If I come with lunch from Stanfurd’s Bar & Grille, will they listen to me?

Any chance I can get a 6 figue job in the commish’s office laying out the half-baked ideas I’ve proposed?

“You know Larry, we really should dig deep into this lack of institutional control down there in Shargi-La.”

“Larry, I heard they paid Kennard. Pics or you cut him a check, too.”

“Larry…any chance we can get Conficker worm linked into anyone who goes to ”http://www.bruinsnation.com" target="_blank">www.bruinsnation.com?"

Heaps and Hinder...come on down!

by carp on Apr 29, 2009 8:42 AM PDT up reply actions  

You’re right, it was a hunch then and it wasn’t fully supported by such things as data and scientific facts at that time. It was a hunch judged by the continual cycle that they’ve gone through.

I hope Sterk(n) gets the gazillion dollars he needs to be competitive. It’s the best scenario for all, I’ll freely admit that. We get a better conference (what carp wants), and the original Pac10 stays together (CBKWit wants). What’s the number donors can call to help save Wazzu? I might drop $10 on it.

Heaps and Hinder...come on down!

by carp on Apr 29, 2009 7:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

I actually don't have much of a preference either way

I just think we need to be careful condemning schools or programs because very, very recently, we were by far the lowest and most hopeless program in the conference. I think we can take a lesson from that – prospects can improve rapidly, and just because Cal was looking like a lost cause in 2001 didn’t mean we couldn’t challenge for a national title in 2004.

If you’re just looking at last year, in football only, you are right – WSU was terrible (though not even the worst team in the conference). I simply implore you and all posters to take a look at the big picture before coming to radical and grandiose conclusions.

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by CBKWit on Apr 29, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry for WSU, but when Oregon State has a bigger fan base—and makes more money than your school—you are in big trouble. I don’t know about their basketball, but their football stadium is a joke.

by paleodan on Apr 27, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

There is nothing else to do in Pullman from what I hear. I’m sure they get more than 8.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

Maybe 37.

I'm old enough to understand. Jerks.

by rollonubears on Apr 27, 2009 6:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

interesting that they feel that way.

though $14M less per year is a huge disparity.

that’s on the order of 100 full time coaches of various kinds (ave of $100K plus benifits)….

or enough $ for approximately 400 full scholarships (if the full ride is $35K per year)

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Apr 27, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions  

you know… in clicking that link I thought I would find out who the two teams were. Instead, it said

they are weighing offers between two teams and it should be finalized sometime today.

They're after our precious bodily fluids

by chowder on Apr 27, 2009 4:22 PM PDT up reply actions  

Now JO says Williams will sign with a team tomorrow morning.

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 5:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

hei guyz

Have you seen this?

The Konami Code makes ESPN.com Magical

by LeonPowe on Apr 27, 2009 4:55 PM PDT reply actions  

Is this what you’re doing now that your season is over Leon?

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 5:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

that

and lots of otter pops.

by LeonPowe on Apr 27, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

These words were uttered in the Hornets-Nuggets game 4 thread

LINK

As weird as it is to say this
I think Sean Marks is the key to the game. He’s shown more intensity than anyone else, and right now he’s far better than tyson

New Orleans is in deep trouble….

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 6:13 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m impressed with Denver in this series. I didn’t think they would make it out of the first round. It will be an interesting matchup next round between them and Dallas.

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by Berkelium97 on Apr 27, 2009 7:06 PM PDT up reply actions  

New Orleans was definitely being overrated by a bunch of people

They were a one man team most of the year.

Denver should take care of Dallas. They play the same type of game. But Denver plays it better.

Bork bork bork!

by Avinash Kunnath on Apr 27, 2009 7:47 PM PDT up reply actions  

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