Cal @ ASU 2009.03.07 MBB Open Thread
by ragnarok on Mar 7, 2009 9:56 AM PST
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PrintIt would seem that the stakes are low for today's final regular-season contest vs. Arizona State. Cal will finish no higher nor lower than 3rd in the Pac-10, and will be the 3rd seed in next week's Pac-10 tournament regardless of the results of today's action. Moreover, the Bears are firmly in the NCAA tournament field of 65, and the most they're playing for is minor shifts in seeding; if the Bears win out and win the Pac-10 tournament, I could see them getting a #5 seed, while I don't think losing their next two games would drop them any lower than a #8 seed. You'd like to get up into the 5-6 range to have a good shot at the Sweet 16, but beyond that, there really isn't much to play for.
And really, today's matchup is pretty much a no-lose situation for the Bears, as they play on the road against the #21 team in the country. Win, and it's a nice feather in their NCAA résumé cap (and sweeps of UW, UA, and ASU will all look good in the selection room), while a loss...well, the Bears aren't expected to win this one, and they won't be punished for failing to do so.
In their first matchup, James Harden scored 26 points to lead the Sun Devils, but he needed 22 shots to get there, going just 2-7 from beyond the arc. Meanwhile, the Bears were very efficient from long range, shooting 9-17 from three and 29-50 overall. If the Sun Devils can't cool down the Bears shooters more than the WIldcats could on Thursday night, Cal could be looking at it's first ever season sweep of the Arizona schools.
Your game information:
California Golden Bears (22-8, 11-6) at Arizona State Sun Devils (21-8, 10-7)
Saturday, March 7, 11 a.m. PT, Wells Fargo Arena
Radio: KYOU (1550 AM) TV: CBS
JustinTV streams the game. As does ChannelSurfing. Really, though, c'mon people. The game is on freakin' CBS. You shouldn't need to stream it online if you're *anywhere* near a television [Edit: on the West Coast -- I just realized that this is a split national broadcast].
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I don’t understand your judging tone, Ragnarok. Maybe some of us don’t want to watch CBS. Maybe some of us are boy-cotting that channel until they remove History’s Greatest Monster, Two And A Half Men from their “comedy” (and I use that term in the LOOSEST sense possible) lineup.
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look, i realize that Two and a Half Men is a veritable crime against humanity, but if you’re a college basketball fan, you’re gonna have to watch CBS. they do own the rights to at least most of the NCAA tournament.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
JustinTV streams the game. As does ChannelSurfing. Really, though, c’mon people. The game is on freakin’ CBS. You shouldn’t need to stream it online if you’re anywhere near a television.
Actually, those of us on the east cost will be getting Kentucky / Florida. So without PRD’s stream we’d be screwed.
No prob man.. I didn’t mean to give you grief about it… I just wanted to give let the east coasters know where to go for the game.
Btw, do you think we can give some credit to PRD74 in the link somewhere? He commits a lot of his time to provide our community with near perfect streams.
Shoot, I had no idea that this game was on CBS until you guys mentioned it. I searched all my DirecTV sports channels last night and I couldn’t find it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 10:58 AM PST reply actions
Fields just ran up the score on Connecticut.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:03 AM PST reply actions
Let’s get it on!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:06 AM PST reply actions
Yeah, and we’ve only made one shot.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
Well, gee, I guess this has started off well.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:12 AM PST reply actions
I could have sworn that Pendergraph walked.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:13 AM PST reply actions
How many more shots can you miss on one possession?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:13 AM PST reply actions
It’s official: Cal is a second half team…
I hope they come out loose in the tourney… It will be the first time for a lot of the guys (only Theo, Wilkes, and Boykin have been there, I believe), and we need to come out smoothly.
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Dude, Canada is already up 1-0 on Canada?!?!
And Jason Bay is Canadian?
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I mean on USA. WE’RE LOSING TO CANADA!
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Yes, Jason Bay is Canadian.
I didn’t know that Russell Martin was Canadian, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
The Canadian team is stacked with bats
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
What did Arizona State do to our rims?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:18 AM PST reply actions
That was a horrible call.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:19 AM PST reply actions
Should be a no call
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
There no way that possibly was out of Cal
by Tedfordisgod on Mar 7, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Christopher out!
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
This is the worst I’ve seen Cal all year. They really do need to settle down here.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Sloppy onb oth sides. Lots of missed lay ups.
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Not really as many missed layups as errant threes and not getting it down low AT ALL.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Im switching back and forth btwn the Cal game and the WBC. So, Im sure there are parts that im missing. But what I saw consisted of ASU missing a shot, us making the rebound, then us missing a shot and so forth.
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I really want to like the WBC
But with the format and level of player participation I have a hard time taking it seriously
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Well, Im just happy to watch some baseball. Its been since FOREVER!
How are we not crushign this guy/!??! We have an all-star lineup!
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Didn’t they lose to Canada in the last WBC?
by BearsNecessity on Mar 7, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
The good news is that ASU isn't the type of team to run away with a game
Settle down and get out on shots, and be patient on offense and the game will stay close.
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ASU always gets cold at some point in the game
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
I doubt they've ever seen a Pac-10 game
Where’s my Greg Papa and Dan Belluomini… blatant homers
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Yeah, I had no idea what they meant when they said the Thursday / Saturday Pac-10 schedule is hard on road teams
by Tedfordisgod on Mar 7, 2009 11:29 AM PST up reply actions
Time for the Serbian Bombsquad
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Their D is giving us fits
I think I’ve only see Cal take maybe two good shots all game.
Well, they did say we were lucky to beat them in January
I guess they had this one marked on their calendars.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 7, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
Lucky???? Jerome Randle absolutely pwned them… 26 and 10
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Who??? A random blogger?
We outplayed them in every way in Berkeley.
The lucky win was against Washington
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:33 AM PST up reply actions
One of their players said, “Wait until they come to Tempe” or something.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 7, 2009 11:38 AM PST up reply actions
That’s different from ‘Cal got lucky’
That’s just competitiveness
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
I remember him saying he wasn’t impressed.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 7, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
He must have really been unimpressed by himself then
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
We’ll pick it up once Christopher gets back in
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:31 AM PST up reply actions
I don't think Nikola can rebound tehe
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This reminds me in every way like the beginning to Thursday's game
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I actually don't think they're that bad
we’re playing crappy, ASU is playing well, they’re talking about it.
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This lead is going to be too big of a hole to come out of in the second half.
Cal needs to cut this thing down to eight points before the half.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:40 AM PST reply actions
It went from 12 to 3 against zona
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
ASU has all the motivation
They need badly to stop the bleeding and are playing like it. You guys aren’t making easy shots and that’s just compounding the problem, but even if you were shooting normally this would still be a six point ASU lead.
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Arizona State is probably pissed that they lost at home to Stanford.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions
This is like every Cal road game. We start off slow, make a run right as the half ends to cut down the lead, then get back in the game later.
I’m expecting it.
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions
And this is a new definition of “slow”
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by johnnycougar on Mar 7, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Aren’t you a WAZZU FAN?
Exact same start versus Furd and Zona
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions
you guys were down by 16 with five minutes left in the half?
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by johnnycougar on Mar 7, 2009 11:46 AM PST up reply actions
22+ versus furd
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:47 AM PST up reply actions
wow! okay, sorry, I didn’t realize this was a trend!
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by johnnycougar on Mar 7, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Well, now, this is getting a little serious =D.
They’re playing like this game doesn’t matter (which it kinda doesn’t)
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
One good blueprint for beating Cal
Attack Randle off the dribble. He really can’t keep up with any bigger guard. Either the big man rotates to guard him and he finds the open man or the guard has a wide open shot.
Alright. Runners at the corners. 1 out. Brian McCann is up. LETS DO THIS!
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Can't you start a DBD to talk about the WBC?
by BearsNecessity on Mar 7, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Oh no! 3 additional comments in this open thread. How will you ever survive??
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What if carp comes and starts posting spring training links about Triple A pitchers for the As???
by BearsNecessity on Mar 7, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
Wow, that was amazing!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:45 AM PST reply actions
That was a huge six-point swing.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:47 AM PST reply actions
If we can get this to 10 by half Ill be happy.
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Yeah, we’ll take it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions
What’s the over/under on our FG% for the second half?
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When have we ever shot 42% in the second half? OSU?
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:50 AM PST up reply actions
Harden created that shot
Blows by one man, so another comes to help, so the guy who was guarding glasser comes inside to help the guy who left to pick up Harden. Harden find the open man, 3 points.
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Is think like a superstitious thing for you now?
Say we’ve lost as soon as you can to guarantee that Cal will come back?
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Well, it didn’t work against UCLA.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
We came back enough against UCLA such that when you said it, the game was not over
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:56 AM PST up reply actions
darn theo
better clock awareness please. no time for a pump fake
Summarizes our quality of play for the 1st half
no focus or intensity
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This just tells me we’re going to hit our shots in the second half.
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:53 AM PST up reply actions
anyone in foul trouble?
If Pendy gets in trouble you can drive to the hoop all 2nd half
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Kamp is too injured to do that
and we’re the ones in foul trouble
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Only Abbot
He’s played well but he’s not the one killing us
Pitt or UNC, I’d say
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:58 AM PST up reply actions
Pitt is already the winner in my bracket
Although I may change my mind if they end up with a killer #2 or #3 in their region
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by johnnycougar on Mar 7, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
Pitt seems to beatdown the very good/well-rounded teams, but falls to an inferior, unbalanced teams (that probably do one thing very well).
Kind of like the USC ’08 football
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Sounds like they could be a team that doesn’t make it to the Final 4.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 7, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
i don't really follow it nationally either
but after watching the Pitt-UConn game earlier today, i’m pretty confident either would run any Pac-10 team out of the building.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
UConn
is surprisingly soft, and if recent history is any indication, they wilt in big games…
I do think Pitt would handle any team though.
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
I haven't seen Pitt or UConn except in their 2 games against each other
But man did Pitt look like the better team both times
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I’d go with Pittsburgh slightly over North Carolina.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 11:59 AM PST up reply actions
No one likes Oklahoma and Griffin? Or Memphis?
by BearsNecessity on Mar 7, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
What does Oklahome have after Griffin?
I’ve never seen them play, but I could imagine a team with a decent defensive big man containing him enough to win
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Willie Warren is good, but this is a problem.
USC almost beat them in Norman with Leonard Washington ejected… So, they can be beat by big, athletic teams
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 12:04 PM PST up reply actions
From the 'Some teams have it worse than Cal today' Department
Missouri losing to fringe bubble team Texas A&M 51 to 29 at the half
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ouch!
Mizzou just cannot handle the road. I think they have Sweet 16 talent, but I worry about their ability to win away from Columbus.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
They’re lights out in Columbia, though. They blow everyone out.
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 12:02 PM PST up reply actions
I’m glad we at least have the split against the Arizona schools on the road.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 12:01 PM PST reply actions
I'm going to switch TV at half like I did against Furd
I hope we get the same result.
Go Bears!
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I could very much see ASU coming out at halftime without the intensity they played with in the 1st
Sometimes it’s hard to play with a big lead, and Cal just needs to hit some treys
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I was looking at Kenpom stats last night
and it seems like one of the biggest statistical deficiencies in Cal’s game is an inability to force turnovers. When you shoot such a high percentage, usually all you really need to do is take almost as many shots as your opponent. They actually got some turnovers in the 2nd half against Stanford and Arizona when we had our comebacks. I hope we force some today.
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Am I the only person who doesn't like it when Jerome takes on 2+ men in transition?
He never seems to make those layups
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I turned it over to watch the A’s-Padres game on MLB Network. In the top of the first, the A’s hit three solo home runs, a pair of doubles, and have been walked once. They’re still batting.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 12:14 PM PST reply actions
I think I’m done with the Cal game.
I’ll keep it over here.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 12:15 PM PST reply actions
I think we used up all our luck juice in Tucson
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah. This seems to be a throw away game already. Move on folks… nothing to see here…
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Hahah
Why don’t we play pressure like that in the opening half??
16! 16!
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It would be nice if we didn't have to fall behind for them to do that
Obviously it’s tough to control every shot clanging off the rim, but the defensive effort should always be there
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You’re starting to talk like a Bruin. That won’t be tolerated!
by BearsNecessity on Mar 7, 2009 12:31 PM PST up reply actions
DUDE THEO GOT PUNCHED IN THE MOUTH AND IS BLEEDING... AND THERE'S NO FOUL?!!?!?
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Cal was trying to force the steal
They really should have stayed with man defense rather than trapping.
Boykin can't play defense against guys bigger than him
but he sure does have a lot of moves around the basket
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Ha, which one?
Glasser and Kuchsics (sp?) have both been deadly from 3
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Cocksucks is the one killing us though
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Cocksucks has blond hair
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 12:38 PM PST up reply actions
Whatever his face is. Theo’s too much of a scrambler on D.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 7, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions
Down to 12...
Which is as close as we’ve come
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HAHAH
‘He can shoot it from the A’
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SINGLE DIGITS
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Goot is in Harden's head. So hilarious
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Now you may say
Game.
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Pendergraph is going to be drafted in the second round.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions
Second?
In this weak class?
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 7, 2009 12:57 PM PST up reply actions
“You must provide either a subject or a comment.”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 7, 2009 12:50 PM PST up reply actions
I think Goot should've been on Harden the entire game.
They obviously hate each other
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Randle with 24… Theo with 19… Everyone else with 23
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