Cal @ Arizona MBB 2009.03.05 Open Thread
by ragnarok on Mar 5, 2009 7:01 PM PST
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PrintAny guesses as to the last time Cal won at the McKale Center in Tucson? It's been a long, long time. 14 years, in fact. On February 12, 1995, Cal went into Tucson and tipped No. 9 Arizona, 74-72, with someone named K.J. Roberts (don't remember him? He transferred to UC Riverside after the season) driving in the lane and hitting a jumper with less than 2 seconds left to win it for the Bears.
The next season, the Bears lost 71-68 at McKale (though if they had won, Cal would have later forfeited the game due to an ineligble player), Todd Bozeman would resign after only one more game (a loss to Iowa State to open the NCAA Tournament), and Ben Braun was hired. Braun would then lose his next 12 games at Arizona, the only Pac-10 arena in which he failed to win. Not a lot of shame in that, given how consistently successful the Wildcats were under Lute Olson, but it's still been a disappointingly long time. Can Monty change Cal's luck in the desert?
One thing to watch for as the Bears hit the road: free throws. The Bears are in the top 20 in the country in terms of free throw percentage, making more than 75% from the charity stripe, but up until the most recent swing through Oregon, Cal was shooting nearly 5% worse on the road (they've since raised their percentage, going 17-20 at Oregon and a season-best 17-18 against Oregon State, about the only thing that went right in that game). The Bears have hit 70% or less of their free throws 6 times this season; 5 of those times were on the road (@Missouri, @UNLV, @Utah, @Stanford, @UCLA). A 5% difference might not seem like a lot, but 1 or 2 points could make all the difference in a tight game down the stretch. Can the Bears tune out the hostile crowd in McKale and continue to succeed from the charity stripe?
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California Golden Bears (21-8, 10-6) at Arizona Wildcats (18-11, 8-8)
Thursday, March 5, 7:30 p.m. PT, McKale Center, Tucson, Ariz..
Radio: KYOU (1550 AM) TV: Fox Sports Net
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ummm…go bears?
Marshawn...if you're reading this...I'll JOIN YOUR POSSE FOR FREE! Dave Chappelle says every group of brothas needs a white dude for safety in case the shit goes down (which it allegedly has with you several times) and someone needs to talk to the pol-ece.
That last win down in Arizona was in overtime, wasn’t it? Or maybe not – but I seem to remember Jason Kidd driving down the left sideline, stopping, turning it around to almost hand it to Lamond Murray who hit a fade away 3 to send the game into overtime.
That following season, Jelani Gardner turned the ball over 3 trillion times (possibly an over estimate) and Tremaine Folkes (he of the ineligibility) and Shareef still almost almost carried us to a win.
We actually drove down to Tucson to watch that game, then stopped in LA to watch selection Sunday, celebrated for 10 minutes then got back on the road back to Berkeley.
I also flew into Dallas for that depressing tournament loss, as Kelvin Cato blocked 3 trillion shots and Iowa State held Ed Gray and ’Reef down to crush our tournament dreams.
LOL.
This is exactly like Pac-10 football
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Didn’t expect that. A win tonight definitely clinches a spot.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 7:37 PM PST up reply actions
This game is on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area Plus.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 7:40 PM PST reply actions
Budinger, Hill and Wise
Shut down one and the game will stay close. Shut down two like we did in Berkeley and Cal will win by a safe margin. Now let’s play some defense!
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That was a nice shot by Randle on the run.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 7:41 PM PST reply actions
If we beat Zona in this atmosphere...
WOW
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I hate those stupid calls.
That’s not a charge, that’s a flop.
Man up and play defense, will you?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 7:43 PM PST reply actions
I don’t think it’s a charge when the defender stands there and falls down.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 7:45 PM PST up reply actions
Eh, Robertson’s gotta pull up on that.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 7:47 PM PST up reply actions
Stanford’s win at Arizona State is surprising, but I think Stanford can make a run in the Pac-10 tournament. They can play with anyone in the conference and they’ve lost a lot of close games.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 7:48 PM PST reply actions
lol Randle is exciting, even if he missed that shot
Kamp is playing at like 50%
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That worries me
I remember Kamp’s interior passing being huge when we broke down Arizona and Arizona State’s zone defenses back in January.
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Is anyone else having issues with probono’s justin.tv stream? It always works when I’m at home, but the one time I’m not home it’s not working for me. Chat works, but it says something about an invalid embed code.
"After review, it has been determined that the previous play was not reviewable"
The Pac-10: where quality officiating happens.
It’s silly how much better Arizona is at home vs. on the road
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They got kind of unlucky @ Washington… Losing Hill for those crucial 4 minutes hurt
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NIKOLA WANTS MORE PT
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Hits a three, then draws a foul
Serbian Efficiency
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Ok, somebody refresh my memory
I don’t remember turnovers being a big problem prior to the 1st time we played UCLA. Is that accurate? What happened? Why have we been turning the ball over so much in the 2nd half of the pac-10 schedule?
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You Don't Want to Know
The women are trailing Arizona State by 17 points with 3 minutes to go (54-37).
Yeah, I saw that
Thanks anyway – when I was wondering they were only down 6 according to ESPN. Looked like a truly ugly offensive performance
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In Soviet Serbia, Food shoots for Nikola
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Actually, the Soviets never owned Serbia.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 8:25 PM PST up reply actions
Wasn't Serbia part of Yugoslavia, which was nominally behind the Iron Curtain?
I guess they had their independence buy were considered in the Soviet sphere of influence
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Could they have picked crappier, more cliched music for Lute if they tried?
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They basically played soft rock muzak
with BS lyrics about having the time of our lives and remembering the journey
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Nic Wise has 3 fouls
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yeah
but that’s cause it was taped, i think. it’d be tighter if it was live.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Monty has to get a rib in there about his golf game
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Dang, that was a mean look that Hill shot at the referee.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:00 PM PST reply actions
Zona came for a basketball game
but got a 3-Pt Shooting contest instead!
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Those are all open threes
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Turnovers and getting beat on the boards
Story of every loss this season?
by Tony Macaroni on Mar 5, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions
We're winning!
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We had pretty much all our TOs in the first half
i think it’s 8-5 now in that regard
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FIRE!
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Gutierrez almost came up with that one.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:10 PM PST reply actions
If I were an opposing coach, that would definitely NOT be in my gameplan
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Well, it’s an eight-minute ball game.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:11 PM PST reply actions
OH MY GOD JEROME RANDLE JUST DESTROYING LIVES
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“He (Randle) shoots it coming off the bus.”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:12 PM PST reply actions
I picked this game to stay under 147 points for the ESPN challenge.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:12 PM PST reply actions
FAIL
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I’m about 7-12-1 on my new account.
Fail.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
I knew I should have gone with Chris Paul’s points and assists over Dirk Nowitzki’s points and rebounds.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
Did I miss the memo?
Neuheisel said take the points?
by Tony Macaroni on Mar 5, 2009 9:14 PM PST up reply actions
UCLA took apart Oregon State, 79-54.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:16 PM PST reply actions
Randle should’ve hit that one.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:18 PM PST reply actions
is randle one of the all time best 3 point shooters for cal?
he’s so damn accurate
i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*
Wilkes is done.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:18 PM PST reply actions
Remeber when Rags wrote that one about Cal not being dependant on 3 point shooting...
maybe they should be.
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ok, with wilkes fouling out, and kamp with 4 fouls
how close are we to seeing Max Zhang?
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
We received a gift on that one.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:20 PM PST reply actions
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Real talk!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
Don’t take shots from out there, Jorge.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:29 PM PST reply actions
Gutierrez has fouled Wise out of the game!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:31 PM PST reply actions
Yeah, boy!
Christopher can make it rain as well!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:31 PM PST reply actions
Even when he misses, it’s good!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:34 PM PST reply actions
DANZIG
WE’RE GOING TO NEED RANDLE @ ZONA HIGHLIGHTS… WTF WAS THAT REBOUND
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randle is like 5' 6"
how does he get his own rebound on a missed free throw?!?!?
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
replay says
Budinger’s fault on the rebound – he just stood there while Jerome jumped in front of him
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HAHA THE BACKSHOT TWO WEEKS IN A ROW
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Totally saw that coming too, when I saw PC inbounding and Buttfinger with his back turned.
by CaliforniaBone on Mar 6, 2009 12:32 AM PST up reply actions
as of right now
bears are shooting 51.6% from three, just 60% from the free throw line.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
aijasd;lfkjas;df we always make free throws
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Instead of getting fouled
we’d be better off shooting threes – we have a higher percentage on those today
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I hope so.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
If they gave up another 3 I’d have started destroying things. Give them all the layups they want.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions
trading points now
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We’ve destroyed R-Rated Superstar’s under though.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 9:42 PM PST up reply actions
i'm not a gambler
but i’d hate taking the under. i’d hate the end of games, especially if there was the threat of overtime. once you’ve got the over, you’re good.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Well, it was the friendly streak thing on ESPN, so I’m not bothered. I just figured that it would be a 75-70 game, at the most, as the final score or something.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:45 PM PST up reply actions
5 seed if we sweep arizona and washington schools
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If we lost to ASU
we’d be tied in conference and overall standings, and have split the season series – does anybody know what the tie breaker would be? Our better record over Washington? We might be locked into the 3 seed already
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Oh I'm a moron, you're talking about NCAA tourney, not pac-10 tourney
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The California Golden Bears have defeated the Arizona Wildcats, 83-77.
Awesome!
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:47 PM PST reply actions
OMFG... Randle!
That was prolonged torture for the Zona fans there at the end… we made them sweat. haha.
Randle is such a fucking MONSTER. He’s going to be giving Zona recurring nightmares for the next few days. He was drilling that shit from every conceivable angle and situation!
Killer job by Jorge taking Wise out of the game. Plus what was all that bullshit about Hill being hurt?
He came back to play for Lute Olsen, right?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
RANDLE JUST TOOK HIM BEHIND THE WOODSHED AND BEAT HIM LIKE THE REDHEADED STEP CHILD HE IS
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Well, he’d be sitting on a bench collecting a little bit over a million a year for 3 years . .. before taking his career to the beach volleyball tour.
That’s ridiculous. Volleyball players have to know how to jump.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
he’s going to get a higher pick in this draft because of how weak the class is… jordan hill is going to go like 3rd overall
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I thought his lousy play (respective to his previous seasons) but I think I’m still dreaming that if he had left, Anderson might have stayed.
by CaliforniaBone on Mar 5, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions
his stock was slipping
i went his hs. he was always soft. joe alexander made him look terrible pre-draft.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Mar 5, 2009 9:50 PM PST reply actions
:: Pats Lute on the back. ::
There, there, Lute.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Mar 5, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
All the pomp and circumstance
certainly jinx the cats.
by Tony Macaroni on Mar 5, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
Theo shot the ball a lot.
I only saw the 2nd half but that made me smile. You can come back inside the house now, Theo. I forgive you.
This is my last game, I don't care about my body.
Theo makes me cringe, but his numbers always end up better than I thought while watching the game.
by Tony Macaroni on Mar 5, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions
always a douche
would have been a lottery after mcdonalds all american mvp. the more he plays the more he slips. my u of a friends all hate him. no d. doesnt even pretend. gassed half the time. he should have gone to ucla and howland would have made him play d. he actually should play volleyball (he was all-american in that) and it would be better for him since no physical contact.
by bringbackbuddytrees on Mar 5, 2009 9:56 PM PST reply actions
But he’s got intangibles look at that play he made falling to the ground it was clutch he’s got clutch and talent and he’s white the media loves him he should go in the top ten!
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
TO THE WARRIORS
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 5, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
(which actually fits his style)
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 5, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, he’s got Boston written all over him.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Anyone from this Cal team is worthy of Nellie ball. Christopher could go wild with Ellis and Randolph (aka the future)
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
Imagine Jerome Randle
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by rollonubears on Mar 5, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Heh, every guard in the NBA would have like six feet on him when he took his jumpers.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
jump into the shot THROUGH their legs
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 5, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
He would be at midcourt, where they wouldn't expect to guard him.
Or if he played the Suns or Warriors every night, he would average 30. Then again i think I’d average 10 if I played them every night.
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by rollonubears on Mar 5, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
For some reason, I feel the dunk at the end was selfish and he was just padding his stats. As the announcer was yelling don’t shoot a 2, he goes right to the whole. I know that it scored and probably was a good play; but I don’t know, something just felt a bit off there. I can’t explain it.
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by rollonubears on Mar 5, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
nah, he was supposed to get points as quickly as possible
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 5, 2009 10:08 PM PST up reply actions
I know. I really don’t understand why that play bugged me. It kinda just did. It seemed a bit too triumphant considering the situation. Logically I have no reasoning. It just seemed a bit weird.
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by rollonubears on Mar 5, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
he just jumps high.. he didn’t really do any showboating afterward. that’s why it didn’t bug me
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 5, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Just a fantastically enjoyable game all-around.
Good comeback
Amazing shooting
Hilarious rebounding (Randle on the missed FT)
Dejected Lute
Plus, we can all stop feeling nervous about Selection Sunday.
And I have never heard anything quite like the sound that the ’Zona fans were making when we attempted threes at the end of the game. It was like a groan that would morph into a boo when we hit one.
by Tedfordisgod on Mar 5, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
Regardless of the result vs. ASU, Cal is the 3 seed in the Pac-10 tourney
Two-team tie
a. Results of head-to-head competition during the regular season.
b. Each team’s record vs. the team occupying the highest position in the final
regular standings, and then continuing down through the standings until one team gains an advantage.
I’m guessing this means we could play pretty much anybody out of USC, Arizona, WSU, and OSU depending on how the last day goes.
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by norcalnick on Mar 5, 2009 10:05 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
I'm guessing USC
in LA. Ugh
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 5, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
YES
we have to beat those fuckers or we’ll never hear the end of it
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 5, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
You wouldn't?
Those Oregon State losses were incredibly fluky.
by BearsNecessity on Mar 5, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
i dunno
i think the Beavers are a bad matchup for us. i would much rather get USC or Wazzu in the opening round.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
I wouldn’t at all. We should have won both of our games versus OSU
Klay Thompson and Taylor Rochestie scare the piss outta me
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by Thoroughbred on Mar 5, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
They all kind of scare me
Either:
1) a red hot WSU team (cause they’ll have to beat udub to get the 6 spot
2) an OSU team that swept us
3) USC literally at home
or 4) Arizona, probably the most talented team of the 4
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