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Pac10 Roundtable 3.5.09

Here are the Pac10 standings:

 

Team Conf. Pct. Overall Pct.
Washington 13-4 .765 23-7 .767
UCLA 11-5 .688 22-7 .759
Arizona State 10-6 .625 21-7 .750
California 10-6 .625 21-8 .724
Arizona 8-8 .500 18-11 .621
Washington State 8-9 .471 16-13 .552
USC 7-9 .438 16-12 .571
Oregon State 7-9 .438 13-14 .481
Stanford 5-11 .313 16-11 .593
Oregon 2-14 .125 8-20 .286

 

We know that Washington, UCLA, and Arizona State will make it.  Anybody who isn't a nervous nellie Cal fan (sorry to be redundant) believes that Cal is going to make it.  It appears likely that Arizona will make it.  So, that puts the Pac10 at 5 teams.  That is where we start.

We being the Pac10 Roundtable.  Many blogs get an opportunity to comment on the discussion.  This week we were joined by Addicted To Quack, Conquest Chronicles, CougCenter, Arizona Desert Swarm, and Pitchfork Nation

This week's hypothesis:  Will the Pac10 get a 6th team to the NCAA Tournament?

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Addicted To Quack - I just don't see a way that the Pac-10 can get another team into the Big Dance. Once you go past Arizona in the standings, your best shot would be Washington State and USC. Wazzu would have to win on the road against the #1 team in conference just to get to a 17-13 record for the year. The Trojans seem to be imploding at the end of the year, losing 6 of their last 7 games. Oregon State? Currently sitting at 13-14. No way. I just can't see any scenario, given the college basketball landscape, that the Pac-10 gets USC or Washington State into the dance.

CougCenter:  So, let me get this straight: WSU just beat UCLA on the road, soundly beat what had been the hottest team in the conference, then swept ASU for the season ... and you're dismissing their chances against UW when they've won three straight times in Seattle? I'm just checking to make sure that's what you mean.

Addicted To Quack: Oh don't get me wrong! I like the way the Cougars are playing right now. I just think that even with a win against the Huskies, Washington State won't have enough to get into the NCAA Tournament. Washington is the #1 team in the conference right now and even though the Cougars are playing well, this isn't like playing Oregon...well, maybe Oregon from a couple weeks ago. I think Washington State has to win this game to even get a sniff of the bubble but I don't think they have enough on their resume to make it in the field of 64/65.

Arizona Desert Swarm:  After beating the hell out of the Wildcats, I think that WSU is definitely the team to beat in the Pac-10. Unfortunately, I don't think they have enough on the resume to pull off a bid.  It's kind of BCSesque if you ask me, but the season needs to be looked at as a whole and not who is streaking at the end. From January 31 to February 19, they lost 5 of 6 games. I have to say that I wouldn't want to be on their schedule this week, but I think they needed a little more push in the middle of the season to make the Tourney.

CougCenter:  Trust us -- we know it's a longshot. But even Joe Lunardi admitted -- as I explained a week ago -- that if the Cougs can beat UW and potentially win a game or two in the Pac-10 tournament, they'll be up to 18 or 19 wins with a resume that boasts some impressive wins. Beyond that, they're playing their best ball of the season as freshmen such as Marcus Capers and DeAngelo Casto are now giving significant contributions on a nightly basis. The same can't be said of USC, which is clearly fading.

Pitchfork Nation:  I definitely don't think that the Pac-10 DESERVES a 6th bid and it's easy as a Sun Devil fan to run to the top of a mountain and yell profanities about the Cougars at this exact minute. However, if an extra bid just happens to fall into the conference's lap, it should certainly go to the Cougs over USC. You definitely can't penalize WSU for playing their best basketball at the end of the season rather than spreading their good play out across the season. And when you put them up against other bubble teams...Michigan, Florida, San Diego State, Penn State all come to mind...WSU certainly has the quality wins and momentum to actually do some damage in March.

California Golden Blogs:  WSU is always going to be at a disadvantge compared to teams like Michigan, Florida, and PSU, just because they are WSU.  I don't mean any disrespect to WSU and its team and fans, but it doesnt have the history of a school like Michigan, Florida, or PSU.  I'm not on the committee, so I don't know the exact specifications, but they'd be foolish not to take "traveling fan base" into account.  Especially in this economic climate.  It's just the way it is.

So that puts WSU at a disadvantage here compared to other bubble teams.  Not only do they have to win against UW (a certain possibility), but I think they have to go fairly deep into the Pac10 Tourney.

Conquest Chronicles: I don't think getting 6 teams in is as remote a possibility as many think as SC has shown that they can play much better than they have lately and WSU is simply on a tear. While seeing the Trojans or Cougars winning the Pac 10 tournament would be a surprise, its not like it it is outside the realm of conceivability.

...In all seriousness though, SC won't win the tournament with the way they have been playing lately and it is only a matter of time before the Cougars come back down to earth. Sorry, it was fun to dream though.


California Golden Blogs:  Well, I don't know how fun it is to dream.  Most of my dreams involve me as a squirrel running a hotel restaurant.  And with the economy the way it is, running a hotel restaurant is very difficult.  Especially as a squirrel.

Conquest Chronicles:  Damn, did I really kill the discussion? I guess that's why I don't get invited to the cool parties anymore.

California Golden Blogs:  Well that and rampant body odor.

You know who else won't get invited to the cool party this year?  A 6th Pac10 team!

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Will the Pac10 get 6 teams to the NCAA Tourney?
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I don't think it's likely at all that Arizona makes it

They have an absolute-no-doubt-must-win in the first round of the conference tournament. And dropping a home game this weekend might force them to get to the tournament finals.

I’d put their odds at 40%, maybe lower. I mean, come on. Their best win outside the state of Arizona is against Oregon State.

Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"

by PaulThomas on Mar 5, 2009 10:20 AM PST reply actions  

They are pretty bad on the road

You said their best win outside the state of Arizona was against Oregon State, that’s pretty much their only win if you eliminate the Oregon game. However, at home they have been a force to be reckoned with and the fact that they’ll get to finish these last two games in McKale is huge. At home they’ve taken down Gonzaga, Kansas, UCLA, and Washington. I think a pair of wins will all but lock it up for the Cats. A first round loss in the Pac 10 tourney wouldn’t bode well but I still think they’d have the resume to get in. I’d put the odds at 75%.

by Adam Stites on Mar 5, 2009 10:37 AM PST up reply actions  

I really disagree

Teams with that resume get left out of the tournament. The committee hates teams that don’t win on the road.

I think Cal has a pretty good shot to take them down anyway, with Hill operating at a fraction of his normal self.

Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"

by PaulThomas on Mar 5, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions  

Depends on what fraction you’re talking about. ’Zona is playing much better than they were two months ago.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Mar 5, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I know. I was just saying that I think it depends on how sprained it is, and how much that actually limits Hill. There’s a whole range of possibilities here, from “mostly ineffective” to “maybe he’ll rest on the bench an extra couple minutes”.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Mar 5, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions  

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