President's Day DBD: CGB Lawyers Unite!
On today, the holiest of holidays, we have another case to solve, this time to save the public image of a beloved son. Twist would like to speak on the matter (and he will later), but he's currently disposed on watching the final episode of the Hills.
via spd.fotologs.net
"I believe you have an excellent case!"
Here are all the details that have been released.
Buffalo Bills running back Marshawn Lynch was arrested on February 11 and charged with felony possession of a concealed firearm. Lynch was released on $35,000 bond. The case will be submitted to California's District Attorney's office for for "filing consideration".
The news has been known for about 36 hours at this point, but Mike Florio at Pro Football Talk has confirmed the story.
Lynch won't have to deal with mere firearm charges, either. As a repeat offender of the NFL's personal conduct policy, it's unlikely that Lynch will receive a reprieve from league commissioner Roger Goodell.
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Culver City police did not immediately return a phone message seeking information about why officers approached Lynch and his companions.
Lynch’s lawyer, M. Gerald Schwartzbach, said his client was not involved in a traffic incident. Schwartzbach said the player was in California to visit friends.
I also believe there was a report somewhere that the firearm was in the trunk, NFL Network?
This is the California Statute concerning concealment of weapon in vehicle.
§ 12025. Carrying weapon concealed within vehicle or on person; offense; arms in holster or sheath
(a) A person is guilty of carrying a concealed firearm when he or she does any of the following:
(1) Carries concealed within any vehicle which is under his or her control or direction any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(2) Carries concealed upon his or her person any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(3) Causes to be carried concealed within any vehicle in which he or she is an occupant any pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(b) Carrying a concealed firearm in violation of this section is punishable, as follows:
(1) Where the person previously has been convicted of any felony, or of any crime made punishable by this chapter, as a felony.
(2) Where the firearm is stolen and the person knew or had reasonable cause to believe that it was stolen, as a felony.
(3) Where the person is an active participant in a criminal street gang, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 186.22, under the Street Terrorism Enforcement and Prevention Act (Chapter 11 (commencing with Section 186.20) of Title 7 of Part 1), as a felony.
(4) Where the person is not in lawful possession of the firearm, as defined in this section, or the person is within a class of persons prohibited from possessing or acquiring a firearm pursuant to Section 12021 or 12021.1 of this code or Section 8100 or 8103 of the Welfare and Institutions Code, as a felony.
(5) Where the person has been convicted of a crime against a person or property, or of a narcotics or dangerous drug violation, by imprisonment in the state prison, or by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that imprisonment and fine.
(6) By imprisonment in the state prison, or by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that fine and imprisonment if both of the following conditions are met:
(A) Both the pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person and the unexpended ammunition capable of being discharged from that firearm are either in the immediate possession of the person or readily accessible to that person, or the pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person is loaded as defined in subdivision (g) of Section 12031.
(B) The person is not listed with the Department of Justice pursuant to paragraph (1) of subdivision © of Section 11106, as the registered owner of that pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person.
(7) In all cases other than those specified in paragraphs (1) to (6), inclusive, by imprisonment in a county jail not to exceed one year, by a fine not to exceed one thousand dollars ($1,000), or by both that imprisonment and fine.
© A peace officer may arrest a person for a violation of paragraph (6) of subdivision (b) if the peace officer has probable cause to believe that the person is not listed with the Department of Justice pursuant to paragraph (1) of subdivision © of Section 11106 as the registered owner of the pistol, revolver, or other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person, and one or more of the conditions in subparagraph (A) of paragraph (6) of subdivision (b) is met.
(d)(1) Every person convicted under this section who previously has been convicted of a misdemeanor offense enumerated in Section 12001.6 shall be punished by imprisonment in a county jail for at least three months and not exceeding six months, or, if granted probation, or if the execution or imposition of sentence is suspended, it shall be a condition thereof that he or she be imprisoned in a county jail for at least three months.
(2) Every person convicted under this section who has previously been convicted of any felony, or of any crime made punishable by this chapter, if probation is granted, or if the execution or imposition of sentence is suspended, it shall be a condition thereof that he or she be imprisoned in a county jail for not less than three months.
(e) The court shall apply the three-month minimum sentence as specified in subdivision (d), except in unusual cases where the interests of justice would best be served by granting probation or suspending the imposition or execution of sentence without the minimum imprisonment required in subdivision (d) or by granting probation or suspending the imposition or execution of sentence with conditions other than those set forth in subdivision (d), in which case, the court shall specify on the record and shall enter on the minutes the circumstances indicating that the interests of justice would best be served by that disposition.
(f) Firearms carried openly in belt holsters are not concealed within the meaning of this section.
(g) For purposes of this section, "lawful possession of the firearm" means that the person who has possession or custody of the firearm either lawfully owns the firearm or has the permission of the lawful owner or a person who otherwise has apparent authority to possess or have custody of the firearm. A person who takes a firearm without the permission of the lawful owner or without the permission of a person who has lawful custody of the firearm does not have lawful possession of the firearm.
(h)(1) The district attorney of each county shall submit annually a report on or before June 30, to the Attorney General consisting of profiles by race, age, gender, and ethnicity of any person charged with a felony or a misdemeanor under this section and any other offense charged in the same complaint, indictment, or information.
(2) The Attorney General shall submit annually, a report on or before December 31, to the Legislature compiling all of the reports submitted pursuant to paragraph (1).
(3) This subdivision shall remain operative until January 1, 2005, and as of that date shall be repealed.
Beast Mode, a fellow Bills fans, has already talked about it in detail, but for those with short attention spans, here are his preliminary thoughts.
Without question if that is the only reason they stopped the vehicle, the discovery of the firearm is going to be suppressed. Nothing there indicates a traffic violation, a warrant, etc. We also have no idea why the officers asked the men inside to step out of the vehicle. If they had a reason to stop the vehicle and in approaching the car they saw the firearm in plain view then fine. If they had a reason to stop the vehicle and when they approached they smelled marijuana, then they could perform a search. The key here is justifying the stop and justifying the search. I am also extremely unclear as to how they determined the firearm belonged to Marshawn. Presumably it was legally purchased and registered in his name. Barring that, unless there was some sort of confession, I have no clue how they determined it belong to him.
Laywers, please sort out this depressing case before we move on to the happier matter of Stanford chokejobs (men's basketball and Michelle Wie alike). After you've come to an amiable solution, go ahead and dump away.
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Do you work tomorrow, Bears Necessity?
TYRANNICAL KING OF UC EUGENE! BRING ME THE HEAD OF SEATTLE QUACKER!
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Feb 15, 2009 9:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Do you work on 2.16.09?
TYRANNICAL KING OF UC EUGENE! BRING ME THE HEAD OF SEATTLE QUACKER!
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Feb 15, 2009 9:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Do you even have a job? What do you do all day?
TYRANNICAL KING OF UC EUGENE! BRING ME THE HEAD OF SEATTLE QUACKER!
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
by TwistNHook on Feb 15, 2009 10:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s a really good question.
by BearsNecessity on Feb 15, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not a lawyer, but I was watching Matlock in the bar for the last 20 minutes. The sound was off, but I think I got the gist of it.
by LeonPowe on Feb 15, 2009 9:43 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Well your honor
Well, Your Honor. We’ve plenty of hearsay and conjecture. Those are kinds of evidence.
by LeonPowe on Feb 15, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Another boost for Men’s RPI. They’re up to 23rd now.
"After review, it has been determined that the previous play was not reviewable"
The Pac-10: where quality officiating happens.
by Berkelium97 on Feb 15, 2009 10:02 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Instead of Saying Lawyers "Unite"
You should tell us to “engage” or “retain”. Those verbs get us much more excited. Or you could just say “free food” and we’ll get equally excited and grabby.
As to the substance of the issue, Beast Mode may have some good arguments that may defeat or mitigate the criminal charges, but I don’t think the NFL will care too much — it will be “did he have a gun illegally or not?” After Plaxicogate, I fear a suspension is in order to set an example to other players. Sigh. Bad things happening to good Beastmodes.
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by CALumbus Bear on Feb 16, 2009 9:25 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I agree. This is actually really serious. A felony, for carrying a concealed weapon?
The problem with criminal codes is that they vary from state to state. Marshawn probably had no idea it was illegal, but he shouldnt have been carrying a weapon anyways. I guess the streets of culver city are a lot meaner then Oakland.
Im all about the Syd Pro Quo
by Dmart on Feb 16, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some National Exposure
Rivals put together a list of the 10 most explosive players in college football. Guess who was number one, with feature and all
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=912852
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by chowder on Feb 16, 2009 10:08 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Too many unanswered questions about Lynch
to give an opinion about what might happen.
Honestly, none of the articles about the story are very informative. I gather the following: Lynch and homies were in a car which was parked, not driving. Lynch and buddies were asked out of the car. The gun was in the trunk? The gun was found to be Lynch’s. That’s just not enough info to state whether or not I think the gun charge will be dismissed or not. There are too many unanswered questions.
Who’s car was it? Was there large amount of smoke coming out of the car? Was the search of the car consensual or not? If consensual, who gave permission for the search? The owner of the car or someone with authority? How did the cops find out the gun was Lynch’s? Is the gun licensed by Lynch (permit)? Did cops confiscate and then conduct a permit search or was there illegal communication with Lynch or friends (no Miranda warning)? Even if illegal communication led to knowledge of ownership, the cops probably inevitably discover ownership IF there’s a permit. So for me there are far too many unanswered questions.
But let me speculate: say Lynch and buddies were smoking up a fat one with large amounts of smoke in the car or coming out of the windows. Cop sees the smoke. That is reasonable suspicion to approach the car and probably even conduct a search for drugs within the car and on each person (depending on the judge). That is probably not enough to conduct a search of the trunk. So maybe someone gave permission to search the trunk, maybe not. If not, then Lynch has a fighting chance of suppressing the gun evidence. In any case, courts/judges in general have been very unreliable in protecting the rights of criminal defendants, especially in the post-9/11 era, regardless of whether its a Patriot Act case or not. Also, regardless of the outcome of the criminal case, Goodell may very well suspend Lynch or at least put him on probation. On a separate note, putting aside my disdain for cops and the criminal legal system, what the fuck was Lynch thinking? I know he’s young but he’s just stupid IF he was sitting there smoking a fat one in parked car on a public street. DUMB IF that’s what happened.
I got lost in cyberspace.
by oaktownmario on Feb 16, 2009 10:33 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t he have been hit with some sort of drug possession charge too if he was smoking? You would think the media would be all over it if he was getting high as well… I haven’t seen anything about drugs in any of the articles I read
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Feb 16, 2009 10:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I woul think
I just saw something in a blog (the Bill’s blog) or article about him smoking up (maybe it was just a comment?) But that’s my problem with the reports. We have way too little info to know what was going on.
But maybe he wasn’t in possession of anything either, so no drug charge . . .
I got lost in cyberspace.
by oaktownmario on Feb 16, 2009 10:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But he could still be charged with misdemeanor under the influence of a controlled substance, which he was not charged with.
I had the same impulse as you, that the officers smelled something. But that is going to be really hard to justify if none of them are charged with being under the influence and no drugs are found.
An officer can approach anyone really and ask questions, but they cannot detain those individuals and search them without reasonable suspicion. If these guys voluntarily talked and voluntarily allowed them to search and voluntarily said the gun was Marshawn’s, then, fine. Is that likely? No.
As for Marshawn’s judgment, let’s what until all the facts come out. But, he needs to start understanding that he can’t put himself in these sort of situations anymore.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Feb 16, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
but do you know if smoking was an issue?
If there was a lot of smoke in the car or coming out the windows, a judge may find that was reasonable suspicion for a brief detention and asking of questions. And if in fact some or all the occupants were high then it’s possible that someone gave consent. Have u ever watched “Cops?” It’s amazing how many people give consent to search and then get caught with something when all they have to do is say “NO. I don’t give you permission to search my car.” But for whatever reason – fear, influence of drugs, lack of knowledge of rights – so many people consent to searches. It’s just fucking intimidating being questioned by a cop, especially on some dark LA street or wherever you happen to be.
But let’s find out what the hell happened first . . .
I got lost in cyberspace.
by oaktownmario on Feb 16, 2009 12:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am not sure smoke is enough unless it smells to them that the smoke is from marijuana. And, if there is smoke emanating from marijuana, the controlled substance should be somewhere in the car.
As for consent, yeah, it’s amazing how many people consent to searches. They think if they consent, that shows their innocence and they gamble hoping the police won’t find anything. Stupid.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Feb 16, 2009 12:51 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
LOLOLOL HAS zoonews BEEN OUTSHOOPED?
http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/2009/02/16/hes-the-fastest-jack-in-jefferson-county/

You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Feb 16, 2009 11:08 AM PST reply actions 2 recs
The actual link on EDSBS was disappointing
I just assumed they were making fun of Harbaugh’s obvious but failed dream of getting a head coaching job better than Stanford’s…which would pretty much be anything
by norcalnick on Feb 16, 2009 11:43 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

He’s all I can think about right now, sorry.
by zoonews on Feb 16, 2009 12:54 PM PST up reply actions 3 recs
Why is Betty Boop speaking Italian...?
Just wondering.
I haven't seen that many tear-stained dollar bills since my dad hired a stripper for my uncle's funeral.
by BearStage on Feb 16, 2009 4:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
She, like me, gets Spanish and Italian confused?
by zoonews on Feb 16, 2009 5:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Judging by the lack of comments
I’m guessing few, if any, of our employers hate George Washington and America enough to make us come in on President’s Day.
"After review, it has been determined that the previous play was not reviewable"
The Pac-10: where quality officiating happens.
by Berkelium97 on Feb 16, 2009 12:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I love days off
This is my last game, I don't care about my body.
by rollonubears on Feb 16, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Days off?
What the heck are days off?
I got lost in cyberspace.
by oaktownmario on Feb 16, 2009 12:34 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I guess my employer is totally unAmerican!
I got lost in cyberspace.
by oaktownmario on Feb 16, 2009 12:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The University of Texas hates America. No Veteran’s Day, No President’s Day.
by Tedfordisgod on Feb 16, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Its ok Cal hates the university of Texas
Im all about the Syd Pro Quo
by Dmart on Feb 16, 2009 1:52 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thoroughbred
Can you look up Shawn Grant on rivals and tell me what it says? He goes to my school and hes an absolute monster. Doesn’t have a star rating but is getting recruited. I would appreciate it very much.
This is my last game, I don't care about my body.
by rollonubears on Feb 16, 2009 12:37 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
His profile:
http://norcalpreps.rivals.com/viewprospect.asp?Sport=2&pr_key=82751
Colorado is the only major school giving him interest. It seems like he took official visits to Colorado and UCSB (which may be where he ends up). The site doesn’t go into much more detail than that.
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Feb 16, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It says Davidson is recruiting him
If Stephen Curry stays for his senior year then I hope Grant goes there, because I’m sure Davidson would have one or two nationally televised games.
Thanks for looking.
This is my last game, I don't care about my body.
by rollonubears on Feb 16, 2009 1:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He is one of the cases where if he was 3 inches taller he would be highly sought after.
This is my last game, I don't care about my body.
by rollonubears on Feb 16, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
New Men’s BBall rankings. A sweep of the Oregon teams would likely have Cal back in the top-25. Like Cal, Arizona is on the verge of entering the top-25.
"After review, it has been determined that the previous play was not reviewable"
The Pac-10: where quality officiating happens.
by Berkelium97 on Feb 16, 2009 12:56 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Cal up to a No. 6 seed in the latest Bracketology, facing San Diego State in Minneapolis.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Feb 16, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
6 would be fantastic
getting out of the 7/10 and 8/9 game is huge.
Still, just talking about any NCAA bid is exciting.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by CBKWit on Feb 16, 2009 1:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
11 seeds often populated by teams that got hot to end the season… Would you want to play ’Zona right now???
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Feb 16, 2009 1:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
you want to play Davidson and then UConn if you win?
We’ve lost to Pitt in Pittsburgh, Oklahoma in Oklahoma City, and would have lost to Texas in Dallas had we beaten NC State. I’ll take my chances in the 3/6 regional.
www.californiagoldenblogs.com
by CBKWit on Feb 16, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’d like to play Davidson… but I’d REALLY like to get a 5 seed, which is reasonable at this point.
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Feb 16, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Playing Duke as a 3 seed would get us some pub from the Kidd matchup though
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Feb 16, 2009 1:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
God, polls are stupid
UCLA loses two extremely difficult road games, and they drop from #6 to #20?
(They were also #6 in the Pomeroy rankings before those two games, and dropped all the way to… #7.)
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 16, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
the same thing happens with football polls, except that at this point in the season, we’ve had a much larger sample size than a football pollster ever gets, so the changes from week to week should be less dramatic.
basically, i don’t even pay attention to the basketball polls. they don’t seem interesting or useful in any way except as a programming guide for ESPN.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Feb 16, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But just as in football, How will we know who is Good?
Im all about the Syd Pro Quo
by Dmart on Feb 16, 2009 3:47 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vegas betting lines.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Feb 16, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Other difference: Thank God, the basketball polls are meaningless
It becomes instantly obvious, when you look at how the polls work, that the people voting in them do not understand college basketball at all.
What’s really amazing is that this is true of college basketball coaches, too… it’s like, “Haven’t you figured out that it’s really difficult to win road games? Do you really think that a team losing two road games to good teams reflects that badly on them?”
Many years from now, when his name's recalled
Everyone will say, "He should have passed the ball"
-- Al Stewart, "Football Hero"
by PaulThomas on Feb 16, 2009 6:45 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Holy crap: Jahvid Best feature!!!
Best is the definition of an explosive player. Yet, he doesn’t want the term “explosive player” to define him.
“You could take something negative from that,” he said. "Most of the time an explosive player makes big plays, but if he’s not making big, plays he’s not that productive. You have to make sure that if you’re labeled as an ‘explosive player,’ you’ll still be there on every down.
“I’m trying to become a complete player and just work on my all-around game. Obviously, hitting home runs and making big plays are my strong points. But getting yardage on every down is something I have trouble with sometimes. I want to be consistent the whole season.”
When he gets off the crutches, he wants to add strength and power. In some instances, getting the first down on third-and-1 can be more difficult than ripping off a 20-yard gain. He wants to prove he can be counted on to get the tough yards, too.
“I’m always expecting a big play,” Best said. “If the opportunity presents itself you have to be ready, so it’s in the back of my mind to be ready to make a big play. But sometimes the situation calls to just get the first down.”
by BearsNecessity on Feb 16, 2009 2:17 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
BLOCKQUOTE FAIL
Best is the definition of an explosive player. Yet, he doesn’t want the term “explosive player” to define him.
“You could take something negative from that,” he said. "Most of the time an explosive player makes big plays, but if he’s not making big, plays he’s not that productive. You have to make sure that if you’re labeled as an ‘explosive player,’ you’ll still be there on every down.
“I’m trying to become a complete player and just work on my all-around game. Obviously, hitting home runs and making big plays are my strong points. But getting yardage on every down is something I have trouble with sometimes. I want to be consistent the whole season.”
When he gets off the crutches, he wants to add strength and power. In some instances, getting the first down on third-and-1 can be more difficult than ripping off a 20-yard gain. He wants to prove he can be counted on to get the tough yards, too.
“I’m always expecting a big play,” Best said. “If the opportunity presents itself you have to be ready, so it’s in the back of my mind to be ready to make a big play. But sometimes the situation calls to just get the first down.”
by BearsNecessity on Feb 16, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This has been posted, noob.
I’m still mad at you for what you did to Marshawn.
You ain't got it like Marshawn got it
by Thoroughbred on Feb 16, 2009 2:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t pull him over and search his car!!!
by BearsNecessity on Feb 16, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Sure.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Feb 16, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hey Avi, are you using IE?
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Feb 16, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
hmmm, ok
i’m trying to get a handle on exactly what causes the blockquote bug, but i haven’t been able to reproduce it.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Feb 16, 2009 3:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No worries. My blockquoute woes are half the DBD funny.
by BearsNecessity on Feb 16, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Let me know if this doesn't make complete sense to you
You have to have a blank line of space between the last line of text and the beginning of the blockquote (basically, hit enter twice). For example:
pre-blockquote text
-blockquote-text text text
(new paragraph) text/-blockquote-
will look like this:
pre-blockquote text
text text text
(new paragraph)text
But, if I put a paragraph space between the pre-blockquote text and the blockquote text…
pre-blockquote text
[space]
-blockquote-text text text
(new paragraph) text /-blockquote-
…then it will look like this:
pre-blockquote text
text text text
(new paragraph) text
"After review, it has been determined that the previous play was not reviewable"
The Pac-10: where quality officiating happens.
by Berkelium97 on Feb 16, 2009 4:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Basically, the blockquote bug often occurs because we tend to put the blockquote immediately below the link. If we did this:
link
[paragraph space]
blockquote…
then we would not see this issue anymore.
"After review, it has been determined that the previous play was not reviewable"
The Pac-10: where quality officiating happens.
by Berkelium97 on Feb 16, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs






















