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CGB Top 25 - Week 14

I'll admit it -- I was too depressed after watching Cal embarrass themselves in Washington, so I didn't even bother to watch the Big XII Title Game.  I just couldn't make myself care.  Apparently I missed a 13-12 barnburner.  Woo.

This is our best guess at a Top 25.  If you disagree with our judgment, tell us why we're wrong and we'll consider making some correction.  Try getting that sort of commitment from the BCS, will ya?

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1 Alabama
2 TCU
3 Cincinnati 2
4 Texas 1
5 Florida 1

Cincy barely survives at Pitt, but leaps over Texas anyway.  In my opinion, their résumés are very close.  Hard to differentiate.  However, I do know of one reliable way to determine which team is better.  It's called a playoff.  For my own part, I'm planning on skipping the BCS this January and paying attention to college basketball instead.  Except perhaps the Fiesta Bowl.  That one sounds fun.

Star-divide

6 Boise State
7 Oregon
8 Georgia Tech 3
9 Ohio State 1
10 Iowa 2

I have no idea what happened over the past seven days that caused Iowa to jump Virginia Tech.  Georgia Tech wins back the three spots it lost last weekend by dumping Clemson for the second time this season.  Good for them.  Ohio State has a pretty good record, but that loss to Purdue is the difference between them and the Yellow Jackets.

11 Virginia Tech 1
12 Oregon State 3
13 Miami (Florida)
14 Brigham Young
15 Arizona 8

I can't imagine that anyone who watched the Civil War thought less of Oregon State after they narrowly lost a rivalry game against a Top 10 team on the road.  They really shouldn't have dropped at all, let alone three spots.  Arizona probably moved up too much after winning at USC, but have LSU or West Virginia really been more impressive than them?

16 LSU 4
17 West Virginia 7
18 Penn State 1
19 Pittsburgh 3
20 Stanford 3

I'll repeat this, because no one else seems to be listening -- Penn State has two wins over winning teams:  Northwestern and Temple.  Last-second loss at Wake Forest or no, how can you have Stanford below the Nittany Lions?  Pitt beat four winning teams this year, while West Virginia beat five.  UConn and Rutgers may not be powerhouses, but they're at least comparable to Northwestern.

21 Oklahoma State 4
22 Nebraska
23 Central Michigan
24 Oklahoma
25 Southern Cal 10
Last week's ballot

USC finishes a thoroughly disappointing regular season by losing at home to Arizona; honestly, they're lucky to still be ranked.  The Big XII checks in with three teams down here, and between them they beat Missouri twice, Georgia once, and little else of note.  Finally, welcome back to Central Michigan, who finish a nice 11-2 season by winning the MAC -- and nothing else.  Seriously, their three wins this year over winning teams were against 7-5 Bowling Green, 7-5 Northern Illinois, and 9-3 Ohio, who themselves can only boast of Ohio's win over Temple or Bowling Green's victory over Troy.  11 wins is a nice figure, but there ain't much backing up the Chippewas.

Dropped Out: California (#18), Houston (#21).

Houston may have been a mid-major darling back in September, but by December, they've failed to even win a middling Conference-USA.  10-3 is a nice season, but in the end, it's not quite nice enough.

Poll
It's hard to argue that Alabama doesn't have the most impressive résumé this year. But who should get to face them in the Mythical National Championship Game?
Texas Christian
82 votes
Cincinnati
31 votes
Texas
27 votes
Boise State
8 votes
Someone else
7 votes

155 votes | Poll has closed

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Ranking USC is generous. It must be the holiday season hereabouts.

At the risk of starting a ruckus, early:

However, I do know of one reliable way to determine which team is better. It’s called a playoff.

I’m a fan of playoffs, but they don’t necessarily get you “the best” team. What they get you is a plausible winner of a championship elimination competition played by top teams, top being defined in various ways. The team which is best on paper, or over the season, might not be the best on the day.

by DC Trojan on Dec 8, 2009 4:41 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

That’s a fair point, and I agree with you. I certainly could have nuanced my position further. All I really wanted to say was that, with several undefeated teams still standing, if there was some question as to who would get to play for the National Championship, having the teams in question play against each other seems like a much more fair way to do so than taking a poll of coaches who don’t watch the games and random other college football detritus such as the Harris corporation collected.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 8, 2009 8:50 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

I’m just being pedantic, really, because I’m used to arguing with people who starting going on about the Giants beating the Patriots in the Super Bowl and how playoffs are no good for anointing the “best” teams. It’s like being against the metric system – the current approach works, it’s just not as rationalized. I’m happy to drive miles but kilometers are easier to calculate.

by DC Trojan on Dec 8, 2009 9:55 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

“Every1s life is a pursuit of happiness, sometimes it’s easy somtimes it’s hard to find… I’m goin after mines. I wish y’all luck wut urs.”
—jahvid best’s tweet this morning. http://twitter.com/HTjah

mean anything?

by goldenbayer on Dec 8, 2009 10:42 AM PST reply actions   0 recs

he’s decided to enter the NFL draft?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 8, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yea I think this is a pretty big clue

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Dec 8, 2009 12:35 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Big surprise here.

Good luck to you Jahvid. Hope your back’s A-OK for the combine. I wanna see a sub-4.4

Like cocaine straight from Bolivia.

by Thoroughbred on Dec 8, 2009 12:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

lol now it’s

HTjah

   1. Man… Send prayers 4 tiger… The media is murderin him… I know he was wrong but damn about 1 hour ago from TweetDeck

DOES THIS MEAN JAHVID IS AN ADULTERER?!

The Lack of Mack's Imposition Attacks My Disposition.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 8, 2009 11:53 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The kid ain’t married, let him play! Woot!

by CaliforniaCMB on Dec 11, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Texas Christian

Everyone thinks they should face Alabama instead of Texas even though Texas played the tougher schedule. I think it’s because people just hate Texas.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 8, 2009 2:55 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

Everyone thinks they should face Alabama instead of Texas

No.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 8, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Yes

Right now, they have 51 percent of the vote and it’s not a two-team race. It’s a five-option poll.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 8, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Alright in that case yes. With the caveat that a particularly strong “fuck Texas” sentiment is to be expected in an informal poll on a Cal blog. (As opposed to a formal poll on a Cal blog, of course.)

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 8, 2009 5:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

By everyone, you mean the people who voted Texas #2 over TCU?

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash on Dec 8, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Everyone

I meant “everyone” as in everyone on this blog.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 8, 2009 4:06 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

The tougher schedule isn’t the only determining factor. Margin of victory should be a major component as well. I’m willing to excuse a less difficult schedule (particularly when TCU played a harder non-conference schedule, which they control) if you beat the teams by large margins.

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS

by norcalnick on Dec 8, 2009 6:58 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Counterarguments

Note: I am not saying the following statements are true. They are just possible counterarguments.

  1. If Texas Christian plays Texas’ schedule, they lose at least one game.
  2. If Texas plays Texas Christian’s schedule, they would have won by a bigger margin.
  3. Strength of schedule is more important than margin of victory.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 8, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Counter-counter arguments:

1. Jesus who cares.
2. Etc.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 8, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

Fine

Stop crying about how Texas Christian is better than Texas, then, along with the rest of them.

The Ultimate Opportunist

by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 9, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions   0 recs

We’re all just ganging up on poor [professional wrestling reference].

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 9, 2009 4:41 PM PST up reply actions   0 recs

50% of you hate me, but I put Texas… but I’d rather have a playoff!

Like cocaine straight from Bolivia.

by Thoroughbred on Dec 8, 2009 5:30 PM PST reply actions   0 recs

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