California-Washington Fourth Quarter Thread
by TwistNHook on Dec 5, 2009 5:45 PM PST
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PrintUse this thread to discuss all the Cal-UW 12.5.09 Fourth Quarter action. Last regular season in game open thread. Last regular season CGB Insta-poll. I feel like we are sharing a moment here. Don't forget to vote in the CGB Insta-poll. GO BEARS!
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This is way worse. I kind of knew we were going to lose Oregon 2009. This would have been our first Sun Bowl (that I know of)
Not even close. I felt stunned and shocked at that, but in my heart of hearts I knew that Oregon was a very good football team. I was hoping to catch them before they awoke.
Washington played well tonight, no question. But I can’t even fathom how we can lose by 32 points to them. I’m absolutely livid over this. Pissed the fuck off.
Opening up a cheap bottle of wine and drinking the whole fucking thing.
Praise be to Tedford!
Voting
“Man, I thought McCain against Obama in November was bad.”
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 5, 2009 6:04 PM PST up reply actions
I haven’t seen such a crappy defensive effort since Oregon.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Dec 5, 2009 6:04 PM PST via mobile reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_P1OhKUw6I
CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.
So we have BAD Riley out tonight, coupled with BAD OL
as well as the defense making Locker looking like a first round pick.
I wonder if Whiteside will have a chance to crack the rotation next season, given the lack of playmakers on our D
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basically everyone of the incoming LBs is going to have a great shot a true frosh
at least one of them NEEDS to play because we have no depth or speed
Like cocaine straight from Bolivia.
Not to look ahead to ahead to next season but does Tedford
open up the QB competition again? Riley is just so damn inconsistent. It hasn’t been all his fault but he isn’t helping himself with some of these throws.
hate to say it
but a great question
"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."
by TKE Prytanis 79 on Dec 5, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
it seemed Riley was best his sophomore year — was that an illusion or was he surrounded by better talent
surrounded by talent and you saw him in 2 whole games.
plus, air force has the worst secondary you’ll ever see
Like cocaine straight from Bolivia.
The guy has the physical tools. It’s a mental thing with him I think.
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consistency in delivery too. i think his height is a detriment, as he’s always looking high to throw over the OL among other things
Like cocaine straight from Bolivia.
Georgia Tech
They can’t stop C.J. Spiller.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 5, 2009 6:09 PM PST reply actions
Dinner
I’ll be back later.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 5, 2009 6:10 PM PST reply actions
Speaking of talent
Our any of our seniors, save for Alualu, NFL draft worthy?
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Whoops. Yipes big miss on my behalf
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Was rocky banned?
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Dec 5, 2009 6:12 PM PST via mobile reply actions
What hurts the most is we could have finished ahead of SC and sent them to
the Poinsettia Bowl but it is looking like we are heading to 6th in the Pac10 and the Poinsettia Bowl.
I hope Mansion gets his shit together. The dude is a specimen, and 6’’4 to boot. But it’ll probably be Riley.
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Biggest thing for next year will be developing the o-line. If Marshall can’t get it done in year #2 with 3 and 4 star recruits, it’ll be a long year.
O-line more than anything
if you can run-block and pass-protect, you can make your RB better, your QB better, rest your defense…gotta have linemen and gotta have ’em YESTERDAY.
The impact of change in who’s coaching O-line is left as an exercise for the reader
Let’s have an open oline competition.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Dec 5, 2009 6:15 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
or later
"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."
by TKE Prytanis 79 on Dec 5, 2009 6:15 PM PST up reply actions
groan
"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."
by TKE Prytanis 79 on Dec 5, 2009 6:17 PM PST up reply actions
it's so strange
how schizo this Cal team is. One game good, one game bad. we haven’t had a lot of games in the middle (maybe Arizona? ASU?)
It seems to be all or nothing with this team.
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it's either win, or lose big
there is no in-between. Which oddly has made me feel better about the close ones (e.g. Arizona, Furd)
There is a chance he stays. There are alot of QBs in this year’s draft. But yeah, if I had to bet on it, I say he goes.
Current mocks have him a top 5 pick
He’s gone.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 5, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t mean to injure up images of Rocky when I ask this, but, speaking as rationally as possible, does Gregory have trouble adjusting his schemes during halftimes? Because for the times we’ve lost this season, we’ve lost pretty badly.
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To be honest, I really do believe he has trouble adjusting
really tonight, Washington hasn’t done anything super complicated. It isn’t like that is the Oregon offense we are facing right now.
That was the problem with Rocky. Since he was a troll, it’s hard for us to write anything critical b/c we would be agreeing with Rocky. He prevents us from speaking freely. Now that he’s gone, I’d say yes, I don’t see much adjusting, if any.
No idea where Kendricks has been either
is he out again with injuries? no word from the media. his speed may have helped in this game
Like cocaine straight from Bolivia.
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I think he has been the biggest bust on the defense this year.
Was he the one Follett told could be the “greatest Cal LB of all time”?
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See I think Hagan just had a lot of things working against him
he missed all of spring ball, plus he has been dealing with injuries, mostly tendinitis in his knee. Plus ALL of the DB’s besides Syd have looked bad and that can be traced to a lack of a pass rush.
Snort
He’s destroyed us. He’s earned dap.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 5, 2009 6:22 PM PST up reply actions
In all honesty, he has been one of the biggest bust on this defense this year
I would say even more so than Hagan and Ezeff.
Will u hate me if I go to watch the Texas game
…permission to depart ,Avi
"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."
I can’t blame you for wanting to watch Mack Brown losing. If Texas scores, you can’t watch anymore, though.
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understood
"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."
by TKE Prytanis 79 on Dec 5, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
Permission granted
It’s always fun to watch what real defense looks like.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 5, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions
gracias
ciao
"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."
by TKE Prytanis 79 on Dec 5, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions
@Thoroughbred
Replying to your feedback from last quarter. I see it a little differently — I think Cal athletes are above average. Reason is I’ve seen Cal backs do man coverage against USC backs, but Cal seems to break down during zone coverage. Especially linebacker coverage of slant passing. Sometimes it’s up, sometimes it’s down. Those zone read, positioning, and angle issues are how they’re coached. That’s why I’m concerned. If Cal was always beat on man coverage, I’d agree with you that it’s mostly the athletes. Not saying it’s Gregory either, because I don’t know. But there’s a problem.
One thing, maybe you’re looking at the HS recruit starring system. But even on that account, Cal players are at least above average. And how many of us buy into the starring system, when Boise State beats Oklahoma or Kansas Beats Va Tech?
I’m just going to throw in my 2 (uneducated) cents here, but I think we keep forgetting that our LBs last year were all at least fringe NFL talent. We can’t even say that this year. Nor can we say that of anybody in our secondary (save for Squid).
On offense, Marvin Jones will be great, but no other WRs really have stood out.
Riley is also not an NFL talent (not yet, at least).
I keep bringing up NFL talent because that’s at least a decent way to gauge what kind of players we have.
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Offense
Really has me puzzled. I might try to run some stats on the line next year to see if I can track what’s happening there. I can see the problems on D more easily, but it looks like you have a finger the O.
I think we also can’t forget just how much pressure short kickoffs (and therefore good field position) places on our D. I don’t think Gregory’s schemes work well in short field situations.
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With regards to WRs
I like Lagemann and think he’s a good WR; just doesn’t seem to fit what the offense is doing?
I see what you're saying, but...
Yeah, I don’t buy into the star system so much. I just feel the LBs have been beaten on coverage so often because they don’t look fluid or athletic at all, to the naked eye. I think it’s definitely a combination of both coaching and talent, but the lack of athletic LBs has been what’s stood out to me. I think the Cal secondary athletes are, as you described, above average and have been lacking in fundamentals and technique. I point to the LBs’ lack of athleticism though as the source of problems, namely HIP FLUIDITY as the worst part. I think their strength and discipline has been shown to be pretty good, given what we’ve been able to do against the run.
My rating is basically just waht I’ve viewed from watching tons of game. I put very little stock into the star ratings.
Like cocaine straight from Bolivia.
I'm with you on that
I too rarely have seen quick LB reaction to the QB having the ball or not having the ball. Turn quickly, don’t stare. I’m seeing that too. If it’s both the horses and the coaches, I’m really going to hope for some improvement in this off season. I’m very frustrated with this season. Just didn’t feel the direction
Understandable frustration
I thought they looked strong in Zona, Furd, and the noncoference at least, but today has just been a big step back. I could attribute a lot of it to the Huskies playing their best game and our layoff from the Big Game, but it’s tough, I know. They’re still my Bears, and I know Tedford sees these problems… so I’m looking forward to adjustments we get this year and the infusion of some new talent.
I really hope one of the incoming LBs is starting next year. I really just feel the incoming LBs need to be a talented group for us to succeed.
Like cocaine straight from Bolivia.
I just barfed
"It's on the ROOF, oh yeah, one hundred PROOF, oh yeah....."
by TKE Prytanis 79 on Dec 5, 2009 6:28 PM PST up reply actions
Another question, why has Tedford went with D'amato the last two weeks?
The Italian Stallion was kicking lights out against Arizona and D’amato has been a bit shaky this year. Then of course he misses the opening FG.
Leg got infected from that tackle he made in the Arizona game. He hasn’t been kicking well in practice apparently.
Again, ALAAAMAR!!!!
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 5, 2009 6:30 PM PST up reply actions
How did you hear about the infection? This is the first I’ve heard of it.
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Yeah I knew he cut it but never heard about the infection
That would explain it
so is it too early
to start poinsiettia bowl planning? i think i’m going to move my flight up so i can get down to san diego.
Brigham Young
They’re second, I believe.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 5, 2009 6:33 PM PST up reply actions
Any chance that...
Emerald and Vegas flip flop order of selection, and Emerald picks us over USC?
Vereening off into the future....
Doubtful
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 5, 2009 6:32 PM PST up reply actions
I'd guess no just because most bowls try to avoid repeat attendees in consecutive years
I think the Sun Bowl has a clause explicitly prohibiting it, which is how Cal would have gone over OSU…
I would disagree
I think it has to be the defense. They were returning a lot of starters and it was their second year in the 3-4.
The OL was breaking in three new starters and Tepper hadn’t played in a year. Plus they were adjusting to a new coach. I think the OL had a lot more going against them to star than the defense.
I was expecting the D to just be okay, and I was expecting the OL to be sub-par. However, I wasn’t expecting the OL to be this bad.
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I’d love to go to the bowl game…if I could at least have some assurances that the Cal team of this game and Oregon promised not to show up. I might very well die of a broken heart if they did.
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Field Goal
Georgia Tech has a 16-13 lead over Clemson.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Dec 5, 2009 6:31 PM PST reply actions
Mobile QBs Kill Us
A QB who can make our linebackers and safeties cheat up, then complete passes over the top, makes our weak defense look outright helpless. Masoli did it to us. Locker did it tonight. We suck against vanilla offenses, but this kind of O is built perfectly to exploit our suckiness to maximum effect.
How many fumbles does that make for Riley on the season
he can be very careless with the ball.
sort of like masoli, but masoli is very good.
by atomsareenough on Dec 5, 2009 6:44 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno, that is a statement of fact
He’s fumbled the ball a lot.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 5, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
No, I wasn’t commenting about his Riley comment. I was asking why he joined as soon as Rocked was booted. No avatar.
LOL no I promise I am not that guy
I hope I havent been to negative, just a bad game to post about. Really I was just asking about Riley and his fumbles. Tedford hates turnovers and I would think Rileys ball security would be a major issue for Tedford.
I wonder if the guys got overcoached again. Seems like they played well against furd and Az when things were simplified. Too many clever schemes, keys and responsbilities could lead to playing slow.
isn't that the rap on the O-line?
Too many weird pro-style schemes and formations, and not enough “hit ’em in the mouth” like before? You can outthink this stuff big-time.
Confusion
Anybody feel like the past three years Gregory has the players confused about where to go and who to cover?
I remember for Air Force, everybody was scrambling back to their coaches to find out what was up when they could.
In 2008 I think Syd and Hagan were playing much better because much of the pressure was taken off by the LBs, who could pull off a great blitz.
2009 has had some terrible coverage in zone, and picking on the guy opposite Syd is now the way to go.
18 to Cheeseboard
Maybe having a new DC just for the sake of havingt a new one would help?
Is it possible Gregory’s regressed?
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Yeah, thread'll be up soon
Very very soon.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 5, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions
Postgame thread
GO HERE AND RANT AND RAVE. Please. Get all the anger out of you.
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I know we talk a lot about the defense but they have no excuse for playing this bad
I know we don’t have the greatest of athletes, the 4 and 5 stars of other schools but you can’t tell me that Washington has so many talented players on their offense that they would just destroy the defense like they did tonight. Yes Locker is a great talent but besides him who scares you on that offense?
If we lost a close game that would be fine but Washington just stole our defenses soul tonight!
LOL no I swear to all things Tedford I am not him
It was just a frustrating game and bad one to decide to join this site and post on for the first time.
As mods, we have the power to see people’s real names, and IP addresses. Without revealing too much information about SDBear, he does not appear to be Rocky.
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Thank you and once again I am sorry if I came off too negative tonight. I was just so
frustrated with Cals performance tonight.
Anyways I live in SD and actually bank with San Diego County Credit Union, who sponsors the Poinsettia Bowl. Maybe they will give me some free tickets?
Anyways if anyone comes down to SD and wants to organize a tailgate I would be willing to help. I live right by the Q and can bring the BBQ and carne asada.
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