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Poinsettia Bowl Post Game Thread + Report Card

It's all over.  No more Cal football for another nine months.  Was it as good for you as it was for us?  Leave your post-mortem thoughts here!  Click here or go after the jump to fill out the report card. Go Bears.

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That game left me feeling...
exhilarated!
7 votes
enervated!
17 votes
relieved!
15 votes
like my toe just got hit by a hammer - and then run over by a Mack truck!
183 votes

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shotgun!!!!!!!!

What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?

by greenbean on Dec 23, 2009 8:22 PM PST reply actions  

On the plus side, expectations should be more realistic going into next season.

by minesweeper on Dec 23, 2009 8:25 PM PST reply actions  

true dat.

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 8:34 PM PST up reply actions  

no kidding

alaska A residing in northern Idaho.

by ak_A on Dec 23, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

the last three years have been disappointing in my mind

while all have seen us finish with winning records we just haven’t fulfilled our potential as a team. I don’t know, maybe I’m spoiled from the sustained success under Tedford but I think we could’ve and should’ve had double digit win totals for these past three seasons. Maybe the key to that is the inconsistent qb play that has occurred since the middle part of ’07.

What did i tell you...didn't I say they would win? Yeah that's right I did didn't ? Wait.. what? They LOST?!?!?

by greenbean on Dec 23, 2009 8:26 PM PST reply actions  

We didn’t have the team for a 10-win season this year. Between the awful special teams, the non-existent pass defense andthe inconsistent QB play, we had no chance for 10 wins.

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions  

We actually did, but I agree it would have been a fluke.

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, ok, we had the talent for it, but didn’t have it together.

Tonight’s game was a good example – we let them score 27 unanswered points, but then we pull it together, get 2 consecutive defensive stops, then march down the field to bring in to within 7. Then we fall apart again. Pretty much a microcosm of the whole season. If we could just find a way to be consistent…

Well anyways, it was still an entertaining system, and I had a blast traveling to Minnesota and hanging out with friends and rooting for the Bears. And really, that’s all that matters.

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

At least the Bears competed ‘til the end. Unfortunately, this game was confirmation that this team, for whatever reason(s), just wasn’t as good this year as it appeared it might be early in September. It was good enough, though, to give reason for hopeful optimism—if not exactly confident expectations—for a big season in 2010.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Dec 23, 2009 8:27 PM PST reply actions  

Where does the optimism stem from? We don’t have a QB that can play with the big boys in conference. That makes us middle of the Pac again. Lets not kid ourselves, since Riley hasn’t progressed I don’t see any reason why he will next year. Tedford will hem and haw again next spring, and in the end he will choose Riley over giving us a fresh start with a new QB. De ja vu all over again.

by YleeXOtee on Dec 23, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions  

Did you know that the QB and the QB alone is what determines the success of a QB. Caring about the offensive line is for pussies!

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s all about whether or not the QB has enough heart, rollonu.

by HolmoePhobe on Dec 23, 2009 10:22 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s all about quarterback “leadership” and “motivation” and other vague psychoanalytic words.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s all about gunslinging! Riley’s gotta be like a kid out there!

by HolmoePhobe on Dec 23, 2009 10:35 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m not quite sure what to think about next year’s defense, but the hopeful vision I have of 2010 sees one or more outstanding tailbacks alongside an experienced, occasionally brilliant (if so far inconsistent) senior quarterback in the backfield. Add an experienced offensive line and what is shaping up to be a talented receiving corps (Jones, Lagemann, Ross, Miller), along with familiarity with both the OC and the line coach, and you have the makings of a potentially very good offense.

Don’t get me wrong, though. I remain pretty skeptical myself, and I label this vision as “hope” not “expectation”. My more level-headed self “expects” Cal football to remain stuck in a holding pattern of .500 conference records for the next 2 to 4 years, until the dividends from the new facilities on campus finally start paying off. Rose Bowl 2015 or Bust!

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Dec 23, 2009 11:24 PM PST up reply actions  

It might be a little premature to look for reasons for hopeful optimism, but Shane Vereen is the main one as far as I’m concerned.

by sec119 on Dec 23, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The end of the season is like death.

It may have been painful, but at least it’s all over now. :P

by Whohah on Dec 23, 2009 8:35 PM PST reply actions  

Apoptosis FTW.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Dec 24, 2009 6:27 AM PST up reply actions  

Just for old time’s sake, though:

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Nice perspective. I think in hindsight, this team was never as good as we thought it was. Hopefully we have a better year next season.

by Mister Pie on Dec 23, 2009 9:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Actually, that was very intelligible gibberish. Hear hear.

by trisweb on Dec 23, 2009 9:27 PM PST up reply actions  

That was the most intelligible thing you’ve ever written! I totally intelligibled it!

(good lord, why i am i sounding like twist)

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions  

There should be an “Ehh… where’s my presents?” choice in the poll. Go Bears Santa!

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 8:58 PM PST reply actions  

I think this might be the best thing for Tedford. Look, we’ve not had a coach last this long at Cal since the Flapper days. Perhaps this is the time when he does a top to bottom look at the program? Blah year, blah ending.

by BlackandOldGold on Dec 23, 2009 9:02 PM PST reply actions  

In the KGO post game interview Tedford said he would be RE-EVALUATING the entire program

from top to bottom. I’m probably reading too much into it, but I hope that means some heads roll.

by 33SwisherSweet on Dec 23, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions  

I hope Tedford really means that. A spring cleaning is badly needed for this program.

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

There were at least a few drives where the D stepped up in critical situations. It’s a lot harder to say that about the offense.

by sec119 on Dec 23, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I find it interesting how there are never rumors about other programs going after Gregory. THe only exception are the rumors about the WSU job.

by MBT91_78 on Dec 23, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

flag’d

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Dec 24, 2009 6:23 AM PST up reply actions  

I'm happy

Not about the game, but the fact that this season is over.

And that I finally just turned off the fucking TV and did something else. I was getting so frustrated that it really wasn’t healthy anymore,

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you guys. I’ll see y’all on a DBD on the other side.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Dec 23, 2009 9:15 PM PST reply actions  

This requires MSG to have healing factor.

Whoever’s in an MCB lab at Cal, GET THE FUCK ON IT.

by BleedinBlue on Dec 23, 2009 10:46 PM PST up reply actions  

There better be an open QB competition next year

but we all know how Tedford usually does it. UGH.

How can you not love a team that does this?

by LovinBlue on Dec 23, 2009 9:24 PM PST reply actions  

Did you know that it is the QB’s fault when receivers drop passes? If he had just said please and thank you, they would have caught the ball. But he didn’t, so they dropped passes to teach him a lesson. Caring about execution at positions other than QB is for pussies!

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Speaking of futility, the A’s signed Coco Crisp today. I’m so glad the A’s haven’t abandoned their tried-and-true m.o. of signing aging free-agents to 1-year deals! It’s worked great SO far, I can’t wait for the season to start!

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

I know…I don’t get this move. They have like 25 OF. Crisp and Davis in the lineup could make for an interesting offensive duo, but they could also hit .230.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Dec 24, 2009 6:26 AM PST up reply actions  

On the flip side, no fly ball that stays within the park will ever touch the field.

by sec119 on Dec 24, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Holley says program should be grateful for 8-5 season, but not satisfied.

THIS TIMES A MILLION.
Yeah fine, the season didn’t end in a win, but be grateful that we were able to win what games we did, especially against the likes of Zona and Furd.

Ignore the peanut gallery that says otherwise.

"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3

by Swamphunter on Dec 23, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions  

Great job with all of this coverage, rec’d!

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 23, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Good work, regardless of terrible outcome of the game.

by sec119 on Dec 23, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Rec;d

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Dec 24, 2009 6:28 AM PST up reply actions  

Side note

I thought the announcing was awful. There were two obvious personal foul calls missed. The one on the sideline I could give them a pass for, but the helmet to helmet smash after the ball was gone was ridiculous. For the refs to miss it was one thing, but then for the announcers to declare how great a hit it was and that it was so “clean” was just completely ignoring the reality. Not only that but they kept coming back to that “great” hit. At the end of the game, the announcers just went on autopilot. If Cal makes the 2 pt play they are one score down. The announcers had decided the game was over apparently and were not even interested in talking about the decisions on the field. Sell the game for F sake, blah

by YleeXOtee on Dec 23, 2009 9:27 PM PST reply actions  

Completely agree, that was some of the worst announcing I’ve ever heard. They couldn’t even get most of the actual game info right. Sigh…

by trisweb on Dec 23, 2009 9:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Mike Patrick is a strange little man

And Chris James could be the worst of the ESPN announcers. That’s saying something.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 23, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Rece Davis does the play by play. I like Rece Davis.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 9:53 PM PST up reply actions  

For displeasing Emperor Holtz, Jesse Palmer’s hands are cut off. He subsequently jumps off a bridge.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve… said too much.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions  

As you wrote this, I was going to comment:

You watch too much ESPN.

But then you took care of it yourself, so I didn’t need click “POST.”

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions  

…can you do that to The Bachelor? How will he give out roses now???

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

In a perfect world…

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions  

lol this!

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 10:14 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ve never been a big Mike Patrick fan. He’s generally adequate, but this wasn’t his best night.

I am, however, a Craig James apologist. Perhaps it’s because I’m a sentimental child of the ’80s, and I remember fondly when James and Eric Dickerson made up one of the all-time-great backfields as the SMU “Pony Express”. Dickerson became an NFL legend, and James had a nice stint with the Patriots, too.

It’s long forgotten now, but before GameDay totally blew up, Craig James filled Herbstreet’s seat. I’ve grown to like Herbie, but for a long time I was sad to see James jump ship for what, at the time, seemed a more prestigious spot at CBS. While I’m not sure it’s quite the same thing, it’s somewhat reminiscent of the way an unheralded replacement named Jon Stewart stepped into the vacated job at the Daily Show. Sometimes the best job is the one you already have.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Dec 23, 2009 11:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I miss Craig Kilborn. I enjoyed the Daily Show way more before it was all political 24-7.

Also, Kilborn is WAY more entertaining than Ferguson. Kilby was awesome…

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:52 PM PST up reply actions  

I have to disagree. I disliked Kilborn as the Late Late Show host.

by paleodan on Dec 24, 2009 12:45 AM PST up reply actions  

This. I thought Kilborn’s late night show was never as funny as he (or I) wanted it to be.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 24, 2009 5:52 AM PST up reply actions  

For me, Kilborn was at his best on SportsCenter.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Dec 24, 2009 12:56 AM PST up reply actions  

Craig James spent the better part of the 2004 Holiday Bowl being an apologist for the BCS, even mocking us at one point in the broadcast about our taking umbrage at being shut out of the Rose Bowl. And that was before the game got out of hand, so he was especially tough to listen to that night as the game wore on. That’s how I remember Craig James.

That said, James was okay the other night. (He was surprisingly complimentary of Cal and Jahvid Best at one point that I recall off the top of my head). And I do appreciate his role as the “other” running back with Eric Dickerson on the Pony Express. But after the 2004 Holiday Bowl, he hasn’t been one of my faves.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Dec 25, 2009 4:53 PM PST up reply actions  

I agree. Patrick at one point thought we gained two yards when we had gained 12. That was the worst call off the game. The second worst was when James claimed a Ute didn’t make a helmet to helmet hit despite the fact it was as blatant as it gets. But I guess he only wanted to talk about SMU – which for some reasonrhey thought was a heartwarming story.

Additionally they did no actual analysis instead relying on made-up concepts like momentum and “wanting it.” Do you know why cal only rushed three all night? Clearly because the players didn’t want it not because Gregory sucks.

by Tedfordisgod on Dec 23, 2009 9:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions  

Also

Did anyone care about what happened in 1980?

by Rocky63215 on Dec 23, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

Craig James cares, and that’s enough for me!

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s really astonishing terrible that Riley knew we should go for two, but Alamar didn’t.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions  

I had misdiagnoses being passed off as intelligent observations

The supposed space cushion being given to receivers by DBs had little or nothing to do with the massive amount of YAC. Utah receivers were getting yards after the catch because Cal’s tackling was poor, even from sure tacklers like Syd’Quan. If Cal had whiffed on half as many tackles as they did, Utah’s offense never would have gotten off the ground.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 10:13 PM PST up reply actions  

This

There were a TON of missed tackles, maybe the most I’ve seen this season. It felt like every Utah short yardage completion was accompanied by a Cal defender flying across the screen and grabbing air, and then Utah receivers gaining country miles of YAC.

by sec119 on Dec 23, 2009 10:19 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, I just ignored that part of the comment because it is obvious by now that many Cal fans don’t know what our defensive scheme actually entails, and worse, they don’t care to learn. They will just make poorly thought out comments about our defense sucking and firing Gregory forever.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Why are you such a Gregory apologist, paleodan?

by HolmoePhobe on Dec 23, 2009 10:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Mostly because I think Gregory has made our defense successful more often than not. And in my opinion, I don’t think guys who want to throw themselves at other guys really hard will do well academically at Cal (like the typical SEC lineman would get a 0 GPA at Cal). Zack Follett was the definite exception. So we have to play smart football, with less aggression.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

How, then, would you explain why Ucla’s D is usually better than ours? They have the same academic requirements.

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

We scored a grand total of 30 points in our 4 losses.

We scored 46 against UCLA.

They have a fantastic defense, obviously.

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

I said "usually"

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

They have Brian Price. That is like giving somebody credit for winning the 100 meters when they have 2 extra legs.

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t mean admission to school, because you’re right about that. I mean success once the kid is here in school. Cal classes are hard…way harder than most schools. You see how many players are being declared ineligible for bowls because of academics. I think that means they failed out of school last quarter/semester, right? Cal classwork is really difficult, and I don’t think Tedford really has a choice about all the emphasis he has put on academics.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 10:44 PM PST up reply actions  

Warm weather and beach babes.

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

…you realize I was being sarcastic, right?

by HolmoePhobe on Dec 23, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I figured, but I wanted to explain myself further… I haven’t ever been called an “apologist” before—even in jest—and I got excited.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Why are you such an apologist about being called an apologist?

by sec119 on Dec 23, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

My spineless British Isles heritage, mostly.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m glad to have brightened your Wednesday evening.

by HolmoePhobe on Dec 23, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

That’s crazy talk! What, are you an apologist for upperclassmen now?

by HolmoePhobe on Dec 23, 2009 11:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The only time a Gregory defense looks good is if the player has been around for three to four years and gets the experience in the system.

oh man, this is classic! I have to rec it for sheer hilarity. I may make it my signature.

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, I’m just amazed that Rocky 2.71828 is the first person to recognize the correlation between age and football skills. We are on the precipice of a football revolution.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 11:29 PM PST up reply actions  

rec it! rec it!

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:31 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh, alright. Plus one’d.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 11:33 PM PST up reply actions  

hehe :)

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:36 PM PST up reply actions  

whatever the reason for it, our D was damn near embarrassing this season. Talent (or lack thereof) is obviously part of the reason, but that’s not all of it. That leaves coaching.

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Pass D*

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 10:29 PM PST up reply actions  

yep – run D was pretty good!

CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.

by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 10:30 PM PST up reply actions  

Pretty good might be generous. It’s above average, but I wouldn’t go any further than that.

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 10:32 PM PST up reply actions  

Given how many guys were dropping into coverage…

by HolmoePhobe on Dec 23, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Yeah, look how YPC they allowed! 3.5!?!?!?!?!?! I want 1.5!!!!!!!!! Fire Gregory! Fire Lupoi! Fire rope coach!

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 10:37 PM PST up reply actions  

Sarcasm is the recourse of a weak mind.

But you wouldn’t know that. I’ll give you a pass for being so young.

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 10:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Saying stuff like “sarcasm is the recourse of a weak mind” after rollonubears points out an extremely significant stat like Cal giving up 3.5 yards per carry on the year is the recourse of a weak mind.

A weak mind which has now, I trust, been completely blown.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 10:53 PM PST up reply actions  

AERose I am not interested in getting into a pissing contest. My dispute was not with his statistics, but rather with the whole “fire everybody” theme that has been played out to death here.

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 11:03 PM PST up reply actions  

I’ll stop when people who are serious stop.

All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!

by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

Also, that he is like eight years old.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 11:06 PM PST up reply actions  

ba-dum ching!

i'm here to clean your pool but i don't have a pool *bowchica bowow*

by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 11:07 PM PST up reply actions  

Couldn't that be explained as opposing teams saw Cals weakness

was their pass defense so they didn’t run the ball as much and just passed, passed, and passed some more?

I know if I were an opposing OC I would throw early and often on Cal’s defense.

by SDBear on Dec 23, 2009 11:34 PM PST up reply actions  

Really when you consider the weakness of our pass defense the run defense is either even more impressive or indicative of a serious overemphasis with regards to putting players in the box. (I’m going for even more impressive.)

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 11:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Talent doesn’t mean anything if there is >>>NO EXECUTION<<<. Look at Utah’s YAC. Execution can be blamed on the coaches, but that is much more up to the players.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

That would be hate, beeteedubs.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 10:27 PM PST up reply actions  

Do we have to live with Riley as our QB next year? He’s turned into another Longshore.

"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra

by 49er16 on Dec 23, 2009 9:46 PM PST reply actions  

If recent history is any indicator, rest assured Riley will be the starter next year.

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

Vince Lombardi

by CaliSeth on Dec 23, 2009 9:51 PM PST up reply actions  

But if we get rid of Riley, who will keep track of when we need to go for two?

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Riley can be the special teams coach. No one could be worse than Alamar even if they tried. I think a serious reshuffling is needed with regards to the assistants. We all know Tedford isn’t going anywhere, but someone needs to fall on their swords quick! Accountability is a must.

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

Vince Lombardi

by CaliSeth on Dec 23, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I think the quarterbacking situation could be a lot worse. Given decent protection from his line, Riley can be pretty good.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 23, 2009 10:47 PM PST up reply actions  

I believe the word I am searching for is… … apologist.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 10:50 PM PST up reply actions  

Riley could also be a lot better, but he’s not one of the top three things I’d fix about this team.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 23, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, depending on how specific we get, Riley isn’t even top 5 for me.

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Rec’d for truth.

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by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 11:00 PM PST up reply actions  

Exactly. I don’t think Riley is above criticism, I just think there are more pressing issues, and overall, he’s not awful. I also have no evidence (either way) that his backups would play any better.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Dec 23, 2009 11:02 PM PST up reply actions  

You're correct

I don’t think Riley is the major problem although I’d like to see him be more of a leader. The most pressing need for the Bears if pass protection and a wide receiver that doesn’t have the case of the dropsies.

by Rocky63215 on Dec 23, 2009 11:05 PM PST up reply actions  

We need to get dropsies inoculation shots every preseason. The dropsies are hella contagious!

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by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

There is a legitimate conversation to be had about whether it’s worth inserting one of the backups precisely because they need the experience so that they will be better a year down the road.

But this may not be the time to have it.

by HolmoePhobe on Dec 23, 2009 11:11 PM PST up reply actions  

We’d be rehashing the “play Longshore” vs “play Riley” debate as well.

by sec119 on Dec 24, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions  

Unfortunately, Riley’s prone to the same mental lapses as the rest of the team. But I agree with protection and the right mindset, he’s pretty good.

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by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I do feel bad for Riley...

I mean, remember how excited we all got when he took over the job from Longshore?

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 10:07 PM PST via mobile reply actions  

Yes. That seems so long ago now. Such an optimistically hopeful time. I feel bad for him to, but the fact remains he played terribly this year. It seems since the utter debacle of Ayoob we have gone from QB to QB always thinking it would get better. I am tired of hoping that the next QB will be better, only to find they are not. I could swear there is a QB curse on the Bears.

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by CaliSeth on Dec 23, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions  

The WRs really let him down hardcore though. Yes, Riley was inconsistent at times but the WR drops killed the momentum even more so than his occasionally (?) errant throws.

by Mister Pie on Dec 23, 2009 10:26 PM PST up reply actions   1 recs

Except for that one throw to Holley. That one was just painful.

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by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

The state of affairs overall are too much for me to take...

I’m going to spend my evening reciting “A Christmas Story” line for line with a ferocity and accuracy usually reserved for Rocky Horror fans.

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 10:17 PM PST reply actions  

Linus? Is that you?

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by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 10:21 PM PST up reply actions  

A fitting end to a forgettable season.

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by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 10:20 PM PST reply actions  

Tepper says it best
Tepper says 8-5 is not good enough. If that’s what players, fans expect, they’re wrong he says

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by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 10:29 PM PST reply actions  

He also said this team is capable of beating Bama and Florida

God man…I like Tepper, but he just comes off as delusional when he says things like that.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 23, 2009 10:33 PM PST up reply actions  

wow.

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by CaliSeth on Dec 23, 2009 10:34 PM PST up reply actions  

yeah, that definitely was a stupid thing to say.

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by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 10:36 PM PST up reply actions  

Being capable and being able I suppose are two different things.

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by CaliSeth on Dec 23, 2009 10:38 PM PST up reply actions  

We just need to doff that ‘cap’.

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by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I'm with Tepper on that comment.

We just need our team living up to it’s actual skill level.

It’s just a shame that they only did so against Maryland and EWU.

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 10:39 PM PST up reply actions  

This made me laugh

LINK

Bears get it done!
Going into a hostile environment and hanging with a Mountain West team for three quarters shows how far this program has come. I am going out on a limb here and predicting: WE WILL RETURN TO AND WIN A SAN DIEGO CREDIT UNION POINSETTIA BOWL WITHIN 5 YEARS.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 23, 2009 10:42 PM PST reply actions  

Utah players were doing this dance after a 2nd quarter TD


Must have been studying their Cal history…

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by bucimislover on Dec 23, 2009 10:45 PM PST reply actions  

Yeah I saw that… I don’t get it. I demand a history lesson!

by paleodan on Dec 23, 2009 10:49 PM PST up reply actions  

Well, my pick ’em set is officially shit now.

Even after I had that Wyoming win.

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 10:49 PM PST reply actions  

That brown spinning thing coming at you in the air...you need to catch it!

That way, several drives would have continued…I would love to say it was all Riley’s fault, and things can get better next year, but we need receivers that can hold on to some tougher catches – even when they’ll get hit – if we want to win against tough defenses (i.e, go to the Rose bowl). I think at least one of those picks, that led to points for the Utes, was a blown catch, and there is no way to keep up if they keep dropping passes or let the balls bounce off the pads into the air…because Riley will overthrow the other ones. Oh yeah, the receivers need to be able to get open too. Say what you will about him, but I think we were spoiled by Desean “Long beach Poly” Jackson.

by fuzzywuzzy on Dec 23, 2009 10:54 PM PST reply actions  

The worst was Miller’s drops. We expect Tucker to drop passes, but not Anthony. It hurts the most if you don’t see it coming.

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by rollonubears on Dec 23, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Looking at the hits he took, Miller could say that too.

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by BearStage on Dec 23, 2009 11:25 PM PST up reply actions  

Shit, anybody hear that Davon Dunn decommitted from the bears? Talk about rubbing salt in the wound….

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by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 10:54 PM PST reply actions  

I need definitive proof.

Otherwise… fuck.

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 10:55 PM PST up reply actions  

It’s on BI as an insider only article. So this is legit.

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by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 10:57 PM PST up reply actions  

Dunn decommitted before the game. Likely reasons include either wanting to go to a school where he’ll be the #1 star (hence his interest in Fresno State) or suspecting he won’t be academically eligible at Cal.

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by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 10:56 PM PST up reply actions  

Are those SEC schools spinning that bullshit again about “your degree at an SEC school is just as good as a degree from an Ivy League school”?

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 10:59 PM PST up reply actions  

As AERose stated, he’s apparently leaning towards Fresno State now (of all places), so this isn’t an SEC issue.

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by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 11:01 PM PST up reply actions  

anyone know why we don't use marv in the slot more?

he seems to be our best receiver in the middle of the field (besides miller)…can take bigger hits…

by boomtho on Dec 23, 2009 10:58 PM PST reply actions  

Rec`d

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 11:26 PM PST up reply actions  

Any big news on the recruiting trail?

Like anything to raise our spirits?

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 11:02 PM PST reply actions  

Has a winning season ever felt so disappointing?

It’s not as if we can point to anyone aspect or position of the team as a reason for our five losses.

Every position besides RB has to be open to competition next year.

Alamar must be fired. Gregory, as upset as I am about the defense; the three man pass rushes, the 90% zone coverage we played tonight, and allowing true freshman QB’s to look like Heisman candidates (Utahs QB passed for over 300 and had about a 70% completion rate in only his what 5th start?) gets one more year to right his ship.

Riley is a leader and tries really hard and is respected by his teammates but he is what his numbers say he is, which is a 50-55% passer who struggles with his accuracy and often misses on some of the easiest throws that a freshman (like Utahs tonight made) should make. While he usually doesn’t throw the back breaking Nate Longshore type picks, that’s often because he misses so badly that no one can catch the ball. However, I feel we have just traded Nates picks for Rileys fumbles, as he had another one tonight. Riley just seems so careless with the ball and constantly puts it on the ground.

I still can’t believe that in the last game of the season Cal still doesn’t know how to defend the WR bubble screen, middle WR screen or the quick WR pass to the flats. It isn’t as if Cal has never seen three WR sets to one side with the quick pass to one of them. Whenever a team needs a quick 8 yard gain on Cal they run this and Gregory refuses to adjust.

by SDBear on Dec 23, 2009 11:03 PM PST reply actions  

I agree, those screens are some of the most frustrating things to watch. Any QB can see we only have two DB’s lined up opposite 3 receivers, and the LB’s are shading blitz. Its such an easy throw, and the safety usually has to come up to make the stop, giving them at least 10 yards. And after teams absolutely killed us with screens, it’s pretty pathetic that we never had an answer.

by boomtho on Dec 23, 2009 11:04 PM PST up reply actions  

It frustrates me to no end

I don’t understand why Gregory can’t better prepare his defense for this and get them ready to stop them. Plus the fact that we seem to favor zone coverage means no DB is even up on the line of scrimmage to challenge this play. The WR usually has no pressure on him while making the catch and turning up field to run.

by SDBear on Dec 23, 2009 11:08 PM PST up reply actions  

I don't think

Gregory deserves another year. There’s been too many times that the Bears defense hasn’t lived up to expectations with Gregory. Although, part of the blame is offensively too many thre and outs with no rest for the defense.

The soft coverages, the poor tackling, and the lack of any kind of pressure on the quarterback is disconcerting.

by Rocky63215 on Dec 23, 2009 11:09 PM PST up reply actions  

There isn`t one person to point the finger at.

Gregory isn`t out there bouncing off of could-be tackles-for-loss out there.

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 11:14 PM PST up reply actions  

The question then becomes, who is responsible for technique matters such as that?

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by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

The position coaches usually teach that…

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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 23, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

question answered!

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by ch0ster on Dec 23, 2009 11:17 PM PST up reply actions  

Trust me I am not the biggest fan of Gregory

I think as a coach, he doesn’t get the most out of his players and has some what of a defeatist attitude when it comes to coaching but he has earned one more year. I will let him slide on the “lack of a pass rush” plea.

If Tedford were to go in a different direction I would love to see Tedford bring in someone like Justin Wilcox DC of Boise State. Chris played in the Pac10 (at Oregon) and coached LB’s at Cal from 2003-05. He has done a great job with that Boise State defense and he has experience in the Pac10. It will never happen but I can dream.

by SDBear on Dec 23, 2009 11:16 PM PST up reply actions  

I don’t think Gregory deserves another year.

Stop the fucking presses.

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by AERose on Dec 23, 2009 11:21 PM PST up reply actions  

I just want to point out...

…that it says something about what Tedford has done for Cal football that an 8-5 season feels disappointing.

The last time Cal had back-to-back 8-win seasons before Tedford was 1950-1951.

by HolmoePhobe on Dec 23, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Oh gross...

We`re starting to sound like spoiled LSU fans.

I need to take a shower…

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 11:18 PM PST up reply actions  

Wait…being glad that your historically shitty program has a coach who consistently wins many games is a bad thing?

by HolmoePhobe on Dec 23, 2009 11:20 PM PST up reply actions  

No, the fact that we can be compared to LSU at some level.

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by Maisbikkja on Dec 23, 2009 11:22 PM PST up reply actions  

As someone else once pointed out it was an 8-5 season that could have

easily been a 4 or 5 win season had Cal not had a few bounces and key plays go their way.

I attended Cal during the latter Holmoe years so I know how bad it can be. Really the way we lost was not pretty and the fact that people are saying that every position should be open for competition shows how unhappy people were with the play of the entire team.

I also just want to add, getting to 8 wins in todays CFB is a hell of a lot easier than it was back just two decades ago. Teams play 13 regular season games and can schedule easy OOC games to help inflate their record. I am not saying it isn’t impressive what Tedford has done but I don’t want it to seem like winning 8 games in this decade is just as hard as it was in the 50;s.

I believe most CFB teams only played 10 games in the 50’s and usually didn’t have the benefit of playing teams like Sac State, Eastern Washington, or UC Irvine.

by SDBear on Dec 23, 2009 11:23 PM PST up reply actions  

I guess I'll be the one to post sad bear pictures as no one else has stepped up yet.

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by Swamphunter on Dec 24, 2009 12:18 PM PST reply actions  

Great screensaver pic

The third one has been on my computer at work too many times… the 4th one is ok if we lose a hard-fought game by 7, but that didn’t happen.

I think Gregory has done a good to great job before – we shifted to the 3-4 to take advantage of our LB’s, and it worked pretty well, but this year they didn’t quite do enough, and the secondary sucked. I’m surprised we won 8 games with a secondary ranked 108th at year’s end. I think the reason we beat Stanford is because Luck must have stolen Riley’s girlfriend that week or something ( I blame all my problems on tits or wheels). Maybe the only reason Alamar is still around is the fact that his daughters are HOT!

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