DBD 12/22/09: I liked 'Avatar' (no spoilers)
Avatar is "the most evocative and amazing science-fiction movie since 'Star Wars.'
I saw Avatar on Saturday, and when it was over I thought I understood what it was like to watch the first moving picture a hundred twenty years ago, the first movie with dialogue, maybe even the first cave paintings in Europe. The movie's not the same level of revolutionary, obviously, but the feeling of watching something entirely new is similar. For the record, it wasn't the 3D by itself that made the movie epic; I saw Beowulf in 3D IMAX at the Metreon, and that was creepy more than anything. I also saw Spykids 3D, and that was surprisingly decent having had a few beers, but nothing mind-blowing. Avatar is completely different.
James Cameron's imagination is unparalleled, and the world he dreams up is amazing. The bioluminescent flying jellyfish? The massive hammerhead land animals? The detail that went into the Na'Vi language? Just ... wow. Take the innovation of Terminator 2, or the epic scale of Titanic, and apply that standard to the visual imagining of an ecosystem. THEN you layer the 3D, and the net result is transcendent. Imagine the 3-D as the maple syrup that douses your pancakes and sausage; it adds a layer of goodness to everything, yet it's not the meal by itself. And the pancakes are fluffier than the puffiest clouds you've ever seen from the window seat and the sausage is juicy like it grew from a tree and you picked it in August (here's a free link to a brief James Cameron interview, as reward for reading my awkward analogies).
The plot on its own is decent, a mash-up of [edited since I can't turn the fonts white]. I won't review it here too much; the LA Times and NY Times do credible jobs. And it's not a perfect movie; the plot takes care of that. I didn't really care about these peccadilloes though; I was too busy enjoying myself, believing that I was also on Pandora and living in that world.
I'm so effusive about Avatar since I'm normally superlatively cynical with respect to watching movies. Avatar is more than an ordinary movie though, it's an immersive experience. Next weekend I'll try to watch it in IMAX 3D.
Did anyone else see it or like it this much?
Physics fun fact of the day: the 3D technology uses horizontal/vertical polarized light instead of the red/blue light filters of yesteryear. You can tell b/c if you look through the same lenses of two glasses, and then turn one of the lenses 90 degrees, all incoming light is blocked.
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Jahvid Best Named Pro Football Weekly Honorable Mention All-American:
Cal junior tailback Jahvid Best was selected an honorable mention All-American by Pro Football Weekly on Monday. The honor marked the first time this season and the second occasion in his career that Best has been named recognized on a post-season All-American team after his 2008 selection as a second-team All-American by College Football News.
Best was also one of the nation’s top candidates for the Heisman Trophy during the early stages of the 2009 season and was well on his way to a second consecutive 1,000-yard rushing campaign before being injured on a seven-yard touchdown run against Oregon State on Nov. 7. Best has not played or practiced since the injury that required medical personal to attend to him on the field and transport him to the Highland General Hospital in Oakland for an overnight stay.
by sec119 on Dec 22, 2009 4:57 AM PST reply actions 1 recs
Bears Go Thru Final Full Workout of Season in San Diego
The Cal football team put in a full workout for the final time in 2009 on Monday as the Golden Bears continued to prepare for their contest against Utah in the San Diego County Credit Union Poinsettia Bowl at Qualcomm Stadium on Wednesday, Dec. 23 (5:00 p.m. PT). The game will be televised live by ESPN and also online by ESPN360.com.
“There’s a certain amount of excitement to the last practice and then getting an opportunity to play in another game,” said head coach Jeff Tedford.
“Practice was really good,” added senior offensive lineman Mike Tepper. “We’re very productive right now, fine-tuning everything and getting ready for Wednesday’s game.”
The Bears went through their high-energy hour-and-a-half workout at Torero Stadium on the University of San Diego campus Monday before taking time out for an afternoon of fun at the Miramar Speed Circuit on the northeast side of San Diego.
Players, coaches and staff members took part in the Oggi’s Pizza & Brewing Company Grand Prix by racing go-karts at speeds of up to 40 miles per hour while participating in a series of qualifying races on the ¼-mile asphalt track. Two hours and nine qualifying races later the field was down to 10 finalists – Michael Calvin, Chris Conte, Skylar Curran, Covaughn DeBoskie-Johnson, Chris Guarnero, Mike Mohamed, Kevin Riley, Matt Rios, Nick Rosato and Steve Williams – who qualified to return for the championship race to conclude the day’s action.
The Chron on Holley’s football journey:
Holley, in filling out the universal UC application online, noticed the box for Berkeley. He clicked it. Before long, he received his acceptance letter, convinced his high-school coaches to call their counterparts at Cal and found himself nervously auditioning for a spot in the 2005 freshman class alongside future stars DeSean Jackson and Zack Follett.
Awesome article. Holley seems like a smart guy.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
Jeff Faraudo has a few things to say:
The Golden Bears aspire to be an NCAA Tournament team, and that’s a good thing because over the past 10-plus seasons Kansas has lost just one game at Allen Fieldhouse to an opponent that did not go on to play in the NCAAs.
lemme get this straight: Cal football plays Utah and Cal basketball plays at Kansas on the same day? Ai!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
no, Cal plays Kansas tonight and Utah tomorrow
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Truth or cougar: If Cal hoops wins at Kansas, it will be the biggest Bay Area upset since We Believe.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
We Believe = Warriors > Mavericks?
I don’t get why that was a big upset… they had beaten Dallas something like 7 out of 8 times in the last few regular seasons. I watched so many of those games and saw that they had distinct matchup advantages. Talk about easy $$ from betting
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:23 AM PST up reply actions
huh?
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:40 AM PST up reply actions
It’s just like football. You’re playing the team lining up opposite you, not the entire league in one game. It’s all about the matchup on the court
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:48 AM PST up reply actions
It was a big upset insofar as a #8 seed beat a #1 seed.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
i guess, but those numbers on meaningless when you’re actually playing the game.
it would be kinda cool if the playoffs were set up so that the team with the best record picks their first round opponent (the mavs would’ve selected a diff team)… the second best picks from the rest of the opponents, etc.
but that of course opens up the whole “they really picked to play us??!?!” motivation from the other squad
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
i can’t take credit for it… saw something kinda like it somewhere a few years back and thought this would be the natural way of doing it
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:11 AM PST up reply actions
K-1 kickboxing in Japan does something like that for their annual World Gran Prix. (Well, not really like it at all, but bear with me it’s cool anyway.) The final 8 draw lots one through eight, and then place themselves on the bracket in that order. So the kickboxer who drew #1 will just place himself anywhere on the bracket, and the one who drew #2 gets to place himself in any of the remaining slots, and so on. I think it’s nifty because it extends a bit of luck-of-the-draw and psychological warfare to the bracketing process. On the other hand, it doesn’t reward fighters for their accomplishments prior to the tournament so it doesn’t quite work with a sports league.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
In that scenario, it looks like the middle seeds get rewarded, since they have some choice in who they fight.
Yeah. If you were to try to hybridize that bracketing style with a traditional sports league model you’d have to give the #1 seed their choice of placement order, which would add a little bit more strategy to the whole thing.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Cougar
stanfurd over USC in 2007 is biggest Bay Area upset in recent memory and Cal beating KU tonight wouldn’t approach that.
Praise be to Tedford!
YO says Marc Anthony might start instead of Syd’Quan?
There’s an obvious joke in there.
A genereal point…. how the hell does Darian Hagan get passed up by two redshirt freshmens in the same year.
You are apparently suffering from a genereal disease
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 8:36 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
good to see you’re back after yesterday’s 17-rec fest.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Let’s just move on and pretend that never happened.
I really hope that every post of mine involving girls doesn’t immediately get responses of “lol u <3 cock”
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Thanks for the heads up. I went to yesterday’s DBD and caught up on what I missed. Good times. I hate being busy and missing that stuff.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 9:39 AM PST up reply actions
recs up to 18 now. What’s the record for a comment?
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions
scotchy scotch scotch
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 10:00 AM PST up reply actions
We pick up the scene where carp is shaving and mrs. carp is beautifying.
carp: (laughs out loud while shaving)
mrs. carp: “What’s so funny?”
carp: “Some guy on the Internet says he loves cock.”
mrs. carp: “What website were you visiting?”
carp: “Uhh…CGB.”
mrs. carp: “Oh (as if she’s heard of it).”
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
You overdisclosed. Classic non-attorney mistake.
We pick up the scene where CALumbus Bear is shaving and Mrs. CALumbus Bear is beautifying.
CALumbus Bear: (laughts out loud while shaving)
Mrs. CALumbus Bear: “What’s so funny?”
CALumbus Bear: “Nothing, just some boring work stuff.”
Mrs. CALumbus Bear: “Oh.”
(silence)
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
Twist: LOL
Mrs. Twist: What’s so funny?
Twist: I refuse to disclose that information based on Attorney-Rishi confidentiality!
Mrs. Twist: Man, I need a raise to deal with this shit.
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Does she need an attorney to renegotiate her pre-nup?
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
I think she retained Rishi. Classic rookie mistake.
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Any engagement of Rishi is a mistake, regardless of rookie status.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions
(Rishi later at da club)
“Hey baby, wanna retain me?”
(wipes of drink that was thrown in face)
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 11:27 AM PST up reply actions
How many dudes did you get to stimulate your asset?
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 11:32 AM PST up reply actions
Mrs. Twist: Man, I need a raise to deal with this shit.
Brown chicken, brown cow.
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
Nobody ever invited me!
PS I saw Avatar yesterday and I do agree that visual it is very amazing. The 3d thing gave me a headache from time to time and there are some plot weakpoints. Oh well. I’d recommend it.
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I saw it last night on IMAX 3D. It was visually fantastic. The “raping Mother Earth is bad” message was a little pedantic, but the flick itself is a game-changer. IMAX 3D is most impressive, and Cameron did a good job using the new tech.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 8:35 AM PST up reply actions
Boyle hits the century club
California Golden Bears head coach Joanne Boyle earned the 100th victory of her Cal career in a 80-71 victory over the Long Beach State 49ers Monday night, Dec. 21, in Long Beach.
Cal took over the game in the first half, pressuring the 49ers into five turnovers in a span of 2:21 midway through the period. The Bears were converting the opportunities on the other end. Led by 12 first half points by freshman Layshia Clarendon, Cal took a 36-26 lead into the locker room at the break.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
AtQ spam!
Well… it is more of me trying to get the most feedback on how I can improve my social experiment I plan on doing next (two) year(s). You guys tend to be able to provide a different perspective on a lot of things, so I would appreciate any feedback on the process and implementation of the social experiment any of you may be willing to give.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
You’re dressing up as the UCLA cheerleaders? I don’t think the social experiment will go as planned.
As much as I think your idea is an interesting one. I think your methodology is deeply flawed. You will not truly experience the antipathy of the home team fans, unless you are in the opposing team’s colors during the game. I understand why you wouldn’t. I would never wear anything but Cal gear at a football game, let alone opposing team’s gear but, that will doom your experiment worse than the Bears were doomed at a certain game vs. the Ducks which will not be mentioned by name.
I don’t think that matters too much, as the people I sit around, will see me for every home game anyway.
Season ticket holders tend to see the same season ticket holders each week. The only way I could fix that, is to somehow get tickets in the visitor section for each game, general admission tickets for each game, or swap tickets with 6 other people.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
All of my shitty/great interactions with fans tend to be before and after the game, where they know they won’t have to deal with you for hours if you get upset.
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I’ve made a good number of Oregon fans, and I plan on making return trips to Eugene in the future, but I’ll have to agree…There are definitely fans at Oregon that take it a step too far.
There’s the asshole duck whistle blower who won’t shut the fuck up.
There’s the drunk frat guy who feels its his duty to try to pick a fight before kickoff.
There’s the thrown soda cups after the 2007 game…which, btw, your band offered graciously to escort us out of the stadium to the busses. (It proved to be a very effective gesture.)
I expect the same from usc and asu, but the genuine niceness of other Oregon fans throws the asshole fans into a sharper contrast.
Good luck with your experiment lol. I hope you don’t die for Udub.
by CaliforniaBone on Dec 22, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
In all situations at all times, be drunk.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
I think your final conclusions will be biased, then. Everyone will either seem amazingly friendly and awesome or a TOTAL dick.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
Hoenstly I think the experiment’s a fantastic idea and would love to be a part of it, especially the part about having sex with the Song Girls in the name of science.
PS. FUCK YOU FUCKTRON
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:21 PM PST up reply actions
Rivals Poinsettia Preview is Up
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1031463
California special teams vs. Utah special teams: P Bryan Anger is the star of Cal’s special teams. He averages 42.1 yards per kick and has put 22 inside the opposition’s 20. Cal’s punt returners have been good, the kick returners barely adequate. The punt coverage team needs work, but the kick coverage unit has been OK. Freshman kicker Vince D’Amato is 7-for-12 on the season but just 2-for-6 from beyond 30 yards. Backup Giorgio Tavecchio has a stronger leg and is 3-for-7 from beyond 30 yards. Utah’s Joe Phillips was the best kicker in the Mountain West this season, going 17-of-19 on field-goal attempts, including 5-for-6 from beyond 40 yards. P Sean Sellwood was a second-team Rivals.com freshman All-America selection after averaging 432.1 yards per boot. The return units are adequate, the coverage units a bit shaky.
Edge: Utah
I beg to differ.
I enjoyed “Avatar” but I don’t think it is living up to all the hype.
I dunno… I guess I’m missing something.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
When is that not a true statement about any day’s DBD?
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 9:01 AM PST up reply actions
Aaron Rodgers's little bro commits to Vandy
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 9:16 AM PST reply actions
Is it safe to assume that Tedford & Co gave him a long look and decided there were better QB’s either in the system or on the way?
SEC title will go through Vandy lol.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
I don’t see us taking a JC QB anytime soon
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions
but we’re 1 for 2.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
It’s more a matter of scholarship availability and # of guys already in place
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:02 AM PST up reply actions
makes sense.
Austin Hinder will be starting in the Year ____
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
3000
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:05 AM PST up reply actions
seriously though, is he talented enough to surpass more established upper classmen who have inferior talent, are they all pretty much the same, or do we have no idea because we’ve been watching grainy high school tape.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
grainy high school tape + not all just about arm talent + no incredible standout as far as we know
i wouldn’t say any of the guys on the roster are much more talented than the others. it’s just a matter of practice/competition/etc. i wouldn’t bet on him playing immediately after riley though because the others will have that much more experience and all that. i guess sweeney is in line (although it’s tough for Brock, who would then have spent all 5 years in the system with little to show for it)
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:16 AM PST up reply actions
if it makes you feel better, I can barely throw a spiral. Something about the baseball/football arm angle I just can’t figure out.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
i know what you mean
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:19 AM PST up reply actions
In A.D. 2010, season was beginning.
Tedford: What happen ?
Ludwig: Somebody set up us the TARP game.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 10:11 AM PST up reply actions
Furd to sell under half their tickets to the Sun Bowl
Stanford plans to use most of its 4,000 tickets, but many will be given away to the band, the athletic department staff and the families of players and coaches.
The school expects to sell fewer than 2,000. (The Oregon schools, which have worse weather and more rabid fans, generally do a little better. The Los Angeles schools usually do worse.)
Do the math, and unsold tickets could cost Stanford as much as $100,000.
Pretty much a home game for Oklahoma. They’re going to romp the Trees.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 9:18 AM PST reply actions
The Los Angeles schools usually do worse.
I was always under the impression that USC and UCLA usually sell out…?
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UCLA doesn't always travel well.
When we were in the Rose Bowl in 1998 we had maybe 5,000 fans. The Badgers bought like 75K tickets, resulting in a very red RB.
I’m a little surprised about USC. However, LA fans are notoriously band-wagony. We don’t travel all that well outside of California. And a Sun Bowl is typically a disappointment to them.
Go Bruins!
I was going to say the “not travel well” and the Rose Bowl were completely unrelated.
But then I saw attendance figures for this year. So I’m sticking to it. Rose Bowl is like an hour + drive from campus.
Go Bruins!
As a student getting to the RB (for a typical home game) was a pain in the ass. Your options are a) pay ridiculous bank to park your car somewhere in Westwood, b) have a friend who pays ridiculous bank to park in Westwood and is also going to the game, c) take crappy buses. For this reason probably more so than the obvious disparity in success I had tons more fun at basketball games. I felt exhausted just traveling through traffic to the RB.
I was at that game!
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:26 AM PST up reply actions
The LA schools:
(A) Expect better than the Sun Bowl
(B) Would leave better weather, home, and a nice NYE destination for something that is none of these.
UCLA
…Expects better than the Sun Bowl? What planet are they living on?
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
I think in general, not this year.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 11:16 AM PST up reply actions
I think that’s pretty much it. LA is a better place to be in December than all of the Pac-10 bowls not in San Diego. However, for the LA schools historically expecting to compete for conference crown and fickle LA bandwagoners the Holiday is a let down second place game and the Poinsettia is just unacceptable.
I believe the Sun Bowl will be a better bowl game now, both with the ACC and it presumably getting the # 4 Pac10 team after the Rose, Alamo, and Holiday Bowls. It has a nice payout, history, day/time, and is on CBS. The only thing that sucks is that it’s in El Paso…and that really sucks.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
That's what the Sun Bowl gets...
…for inviting such a worthless group of human beings.
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
Cal grad hikers could be in serious shit.
The UC Berkeley graduates will stand trial soon and their families are not likely to find comfort in what President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told Sawyer.
For friends and family of the three American hikers who’ve been imprisoned in Iran for nearly five months, Sawyer’s interview with Ahmadinejad may not have been the most reassuring.
“Are you still going to do your best to set them free?” Sawyer asked Ahmadinejad.
“Yes, but I have a question for you. How do you know they have accidentally crossed into Iran?” said Ahmadinejad.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 9:21 AM PST reply actions
Cal hoops prepares for #1 Kansas
Kansas has racked up three additional victories since then, building momentum while Cal has struggled even to maintain a regular practice schedule due to finals week. The Bears haven’t played a game in almost two weeks.
“Finals have been kind of tough on the players,” Montgomery said. “We’ve had days off in between, and everybody has finals after practice. Guys have probably been up late studying. We’ve gotten some things done, but as is normal, it’s been a bit lethargic at times.”
The in-class exams now a thing of the past, Cal has arguably its biggest test of the year awaiting it on Tuesday at 6 p.m. PT. It hasn’t defeated the Jayhawks since the 1954-55 season, long before Xavier Henry was born.
The freshman guard leads Kansas in scoring with 17.7 points per game, while junior Cole Aldrich anchors the paint on both ends of the floor. Montgomery said he thinks Henry has roamed free largely because defenses have had to focus their energies on the 6-foot-11 center.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 9:23 AM PST reply actions
I'm not going to see Avatar
BECAUSE of the hype. Movies and books that are hyped like this are just kind of a turnoff for me, unless I had some level of interest in them beforehand (e.g. Lord of the Rings Movies). It’s the same reason I haven’t read or watched any of the Harry Potter series. Or Twilight.
I've been Honked...
So you don’t like seeing a movie if other people talk about it a lot, or you feel like you’d be underwhelmed relative to how much people talk about it, or none of the above?
I’d say the former. I just have a real aversion to jumping on the bandwagon for things.
I've been Honked...
I dunno, I get what you’re saying, but a lot of things are popular because they are also good. I feel like I have a good stupid-shit-o-meter to separate the BS from the good stuff.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
I understand what you’re saying; I know a lot of people feel similarly about not wanting to be on the bandwagon.
At the same time, it’s always struck me as a little ironic that one would avoid doing something specifically b/c of mass appeal, since either way you’re being influenced by the mass appeal. I.e., the mass appeal is influencing your decision NOT to go.
Thats why I didnt want to see Interracial Gangbang 13. So much hype!
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That was a good flick, especially the climax.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
I dunno I felt like the conclusion was sloppy and the ending was premature.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
To see them all come together at the end was heartwarming.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 11:21 AM PST up reply actions
I hear you. I would say this. Wait 10 years. By then all the hype over this stuff will have died down, and you can decide to take a fresh take on them. As for the Harry Potter series of books, they’re good enough to hld up over time, so just wait til you’re ready to give’em a shot.
CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.
Maybe in ten years I’ll actually read that Chuck Palahniuk fellow everyone’s been talking about.
(No, I won’t. Fuck that dude.)
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
sadly, I don’t even know who that is.
/literary phail
CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.
Fight Club/Choke/other books that every member of my generation swears by.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
chowder, better avert your eyes
Bulls blow 35 point lead in the second half AT HOME, lose to Kings 102-98.
“How do you blow a 35-point lead? In the third quarter? Against a team that you have been completely dominating all night? Those are the questions that the Bulls have to answer now. Those are the ones that will haunt them for the foreseeable future after the Kings came back to stun them 102-98 on Monday night. And, ultimately, those are the questions that could cost Vinny Del Negro his job. ’It’s tough,’ the embattled Bulls coach said after the game. ‘We had it going pretty well in the first half. We just stopped being aggressive. Stopped moving the basketball in the third quarter I thought. It kind of just got contagious.’ … The Bulls’ collapse was the second worst in NBA history and the worst second-half collapse ever. “That’s the first time I’ve ever been involved in that,” a hushed John Salmons said. ’It’s a tough loss. I don’t even know what to say.’ Neither did anyone else. The Bulls locker room felt like a funeral home. It was eerily quiet and everyone looked miserable. Nobody could believe what had just happened. Nobody had a clue what was going to happen next."
Go Kings! What a season so far…
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 9:26 AM PST reply actions
It was a ridiculous game
Kings won it as much as the Bulls lost it. Chicago took 6 shots and 8 free throws in the final ten minutes, while being in the penalty for 10 minutes. Man, they are in a bad way.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 9:31 AM PST up reply actions
Actually let me take that back
They shot the ball 4 TIMES at the stripe. Yeesh.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions
The headline in The Sacramento Bee was “Kings Make Amazing Comeback.” The headline on Yahoo was, “Bulls Blow Huge Lead.” Take your pick.
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
Are you the Minister of Truth?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 11:09 AM PST up reply actions
Avatar is "the most evocative and amazing science-fiction movie since ‘Star Wars.’
That’s not saying much. As monumentally influential as Star Wars was, it was also simplistic, cliched, and had plot holes large enough for Mark Mangino to tap-dance through.
Just sayin’.
Since Star Wars. As in, nothing better has come along since. This includes Blade Runner, Terminator 2, etc.
I toads disagree, but whatever. Hard to argue with Star Wars, it pretty much reshaped mainstream science fiction.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 10:50 AM PST up reply actions
I think both Blade Runner and Terminator 2 would give Star Wars a run for its money; that having been said, the quote is from Spielberg, not me.
What would be your best scifi movie of the last 30 years?
If you make it last 41 years, I’d say 2001
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 11:15 AM PST up reply actions
I saw 2001 on an actual film screen and was blown away. Complete mindwarp, especially as a 17yo. I’d put Avatar on the same level, though it looks like few people here agree with me (tough crowd!).
119.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
(By this logic Rishi is seven which explains the true meaning of his love for lemon drops oh ZHANG.)
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
(See it’s funny because in addition to being an alcoholic beverage a lemon drop is also a rather tasty candy.)
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Avatar lacked the “am I on drugs right now?” aspect that 2001 has, but it (IMHO) has similar “I’ve never seen that shit in a movie done so well” elements that makes it superlative.
BTW, the bridge of my nose still hurts from the 3D glasses. But the pain is worth it!!!!1
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
I think it’s hard to look at Star Wars in a vacuum because it’s had so much impact on our perception of subsequent science fiction. But I daresay that examined in a vacuum it would not rate that highly.
The Aliens franchise is somewhat underrated; it is definitely in the top tier of science fiction movies. Children of Men also completely blew me away, although it’s barely if at all in the same genre.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Event Horizon (shudders)
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 11:24 AM PST up reply actions
Did you see this review of the Phantom Menace?
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
I object to Avatar on the basis that it looks like a video game
And not one with terribly well done graphics, either.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
When I saw the beginning of the trailer for the first time, I thought it was a Halo movie
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions
“Looks like a video game” is a fairly meaningless statement. The line between video games and movies is gettinb blurrier every day.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 10:06 AM PST up reply actions
OK how about this: looks like a video game for the Nintendo 64.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Holmoephobe to the left of me, Rishi to the right. I’m apt to drown in worldliness.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Sounds like a sausagefest
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions
Just coincidence. I noticed it too but it really wasn’t worth changing.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
(Really, it wouldn’t be accurate even if it were intentional—what with myself being a certified pinko commie radical regardless of political affiliation, Holmoephobe probably isn’t farther left than I am. Not that I care, in any case.)
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
HolmoePhobe is significantly less liberal than people think he is. They make this mistake because they confuse partisanship for ideological extremism.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions
HolmoePhobe wants to know what your deal is.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 11:36 AM PST up reply actions
Alright then! I am an ideological extremist, so we’re definitely in business here.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Alright then! I am an… extremist, so we’re definitely in business here.
Do you have something you want to tell us here?
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I had something I wanted to tell you, then I did! It was what I posted!
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Miller predicts the Bears will roll on.
PREDICTION: California, 28-24. As we’ve said before: Golden Bears, why can’t we quit you? The simple fact is Cal has better players. If they show up with a sound plan and play hard, they should win. The Bears have shown some resilience this year when folks are counting them out, winning five of six after getting bludgeoned on consecutive weekends by Oregon and USC. The humbling debacle at Washington should serve as motivation. Bears, do you really want to go out as losers in 2009?
No Best, MSG, or SQT. Yowzers. Here’s hoping Kevin Riley looks like Aaron Rodgers and shuts carp up. Time to step up!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Let’s just hope the OL brings its Furd face and not its Husky face
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:18 AM PST up reply actions
And not its O face.
President Emperor Warlord Of The Sun!
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by TwistNHook on Dec 22, 2009 11:12 AM PST up reply actions 1 recs
unless it's O'ing
on the defensive lines back….
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Dec 22, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
Any chance we can get some Mike Silver mojo for the P-Bowl?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Doubtful. Maybe he’ll tweet about it: http://twitter.com/RealMikeSilver
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 10:15 AM PST up reply actions
I was really hoping for some low-blow religious/inbred jokes about our opponent.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
I’d be more than happy to cover that; residents of the great state of Utah fall into quite a few of the categories of things that I am not well-disposed towards.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 10:17 AM PST up reply actions
50 best websites of 2009
Sheesh, they really put thought into this:
1. Flickr
2. California Coastline
3. Delicious
4. Metafilter
5. popurls
6. Twitter
7. Skype
8. Boing Boing
9. Academic Earth
10. OpenTable
11. Google
12. YouTube
13. Wolfram|Alpha
14. Hulu
15. Vimeo
16. Fora TV
17. Craiglook
18. Shop Goodwill
19. Amazon
20. Kayak
21. Netflix
22. Etsy
23. PropertyShark.com
24. Redfin
25. Wikipedia
26. Internet Archive
27. Kiva
28. ConsumerSearch
29. Metacritic
30. Pollster
31. Facebook
32. Pandora and Last.fm
33. Musicovery
34. Spotify
35. Supercook
36. Yelp
37. Visuwords
38. CouchSurfing
39. BabyNameWizard.com’s NameVoyager
40. Mint
41. TripIt
42. Aardvark
43. drop.io
44. Issuu
45. Photosynth
46. OMGPOP
47. WorldWideTelescope
48. Fonolo
49. Get High Now
50. Know Your Meme
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 10:17 AM PST reply actions
Prior the inevitable outrage...
It does not appear that this is in any particular order, from what I can tell…
Obviously, there is no reason facebook should be so low.
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"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
We couldn't afford the Silverdome
So let’s buy Tony Gonzalez’s house!
Crazy Uncle Tony’s got a beachfront home, priced to move! These deals won’t come around again, so act now! He’ll even throw in a brand new Porsche! So do we have ourselves a deal, or what?
Gonzalez has been trying to sell his Manhattan Beach house (4 bed, 4 bath) for a year now. It must be a seller’s market, because he’s dropped his asking price to $3.6 million, and he’s willing to add a brand new Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet, valued at $144,000. How can you turn this down?
Forget the Party Yacht, we need Tony G’s Porsche 911 Turbo Cabriolet!
Proud to hold season tickets to the only NBA team soon to be owned by a Russian oligarch.
Give it to OO and Whiteside!
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:27 AM PST up reply actions
saw this in a Twitter
USC RB Joe McKnight to LA Daily News: "I’m not saying anything; you will just twist my words. You’ve all (ruined) my life."
I’m glad someone said it. Joe McKnight, you’re on my good list.
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well, joe, prolly shouldn’t have accepted that land rover and have your gf work for the man running joemcknizzle4heisman dot com or whatever. Just because you’re a running back at USC doesn’t mean you are Reggie Bush.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
honestly, i gotta side with USC on this one.. i’ve seen sites like the ones the businessman owns, and they were basically just bought domains (i’ve seen those same sites for just about every USC player and even some Cal ones too)… by all accounts, the GF was working for the guy way before McKnight even met her, so I don’t see the problem there. i’ve driven my GF’s car plenty of times… it’s not like he’s accepting a gift. i’m more angry with the state of sports reporting and the pulic commenting by people afterward. i’m sure USC has had its ncaa violations, but i don’t think it’s as dirty as most make it out to be (pure speculation of course).
anyway, i’ll just wait til whatever info comes out. i honestly feel for college players, who i think should get some sort of additional stipend (maybe commensurate with the grant-in-aids we get from FAFSA, etc) + their scholarships
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:47 AM PST up reply actions
http://deadspin.com/5431218/joe-mcknights-car-daddy-is-not-making-a-lot-of-sense
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Yeah – the “internet is very expensive” line made me suspicious, as did the fact that he’s a county employee.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
dude, i’m not going to read a deadspin article for accuracy… one thing i will say is that i’ve seen these sites before (for players like marshawn, reggie, desean, dwayne fucking jarrett, etc), and they were in no way affiliated with the school.
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:51 AM PST up reply actions
He claims he bought the car on behalf of Johanna Beltran—McKnight’s girlfriend, with whom Joe has a young son—because she is a Schenter family friend who also works for a company that may or may not be owned by Schenter’s father and “has a patent to turn nuclear wastes into valuable metals.”
That’s kind of funny, actually.
:)
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
this is funny because it’s complete horseshit, no? sorry, i’m doped up on painkillers
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:53 AM PST up reply actions
lemme get your oxy
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
actually percocet
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 10:57 AM PST up reply actions
ahh…oxycodone + acetaminophen. You’re in good hands. Better living through chemistry!
Any side effects?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
an unusually large penis…
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
(i used to take vicodin instead, but that gave me..umm…bad ‘backup’)
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:06 AM PST up reply actions
Sheep are grodie, lolz.
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:14 AM PST up reply actions
One of the nasty side effects of the internet advertising boom: the loss of good journalism.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions
(Extricates himself from Spazzy’s lawn.)
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
One with an American flag drawn on it, no less. Double whammy.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
NSFW!!!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
i think we should just get tiger a vat of silicone and collagen, and he’d be in hog heaven
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Best video games of 2009
* Uncharted 2 (PS3)
* Batman: Arkham Asylum (360, PS3, PC)
* Borderlands (360, PS3, PC)
* Ghostbusters: The Video Game (360, PS3, Wii)
* Mario and Luigi: Bowser’s Inside Story (DS)
* Dragon Age: Origins (PC, 360, PS3)
* Modern Warfare 2 (360, PS3, PC)
* Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars (DS, PSP)
* Forza Motorsport 3 (360)
* Infamous (PS3)
* NHL 10 (360, PS3)
* New Super Mario Bros. Wii (Wii)
* Street Fighter IV (360, PS3, PC)
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 10:59 AM PST reply actions
I just started Dragon Age – it’s a pretty sweet game. Nothing too original but a very high-quality BG-style RPG.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 11:01 AM PST up reply actions
Phobe… go work on your Law School apps. You’re too old for this shit
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions
T-Bred, what meds did you take man?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 11:03 AM PST up reply actions
The same ones that cause me to be a shameless homer
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:07 AM PST up reply actions
Average game is in their mid-30s; I’m actually too young for this shit.
Can someone remind me again why it’s ok for anyone to watch movies but playing games is somehow seen as a sign of immaturity?
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 11:25 AM PST up reply actions
Not immaturity… they get in the way of maximizing your money-making potential, good sir!
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:40 AM PST up reply actions
When you grow up, you tend to lose that fifty hours to play a video game, but not the three to watch a movie?
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Nod. That’s why I largely stopped playing games when I got a life.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:01 PM PST up reply actions
And we’ve all seen what happens to people who stay on the video game route and refuse to get a life.
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If you’re talking about who I think you’re talking about…
…be nice.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:03 PM PST up reply actions
Mrs. carp has absolutely no patience when I play video games. She doesn’t care that I’m 300-0 as Cal’s football coach.
I’ve noticed an uptick in my productivity when I went cold turkey.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
I joined a gaming clan for about two months before realizing I was not doing anything else with my time.
I did that back in HS…it was fun at the time but led to asymmetrical social development.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
That deserves its own DBD.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 11:18 AM PST up reply actions
Oooh, now it DEFINITELY deserves its own DBD!
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions
Battlefield 1942 FTW!
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 11:19 AM PST up reply actions
I think a consensus list would probably include (PC):
-Baldur’s Gate 2
-BioShock
-Braid (srsly)
-GTA 3
-Half-Life 2
-KOTOR 1 & 2
-Mass Effect
-Modern Warfare 1 & 2
-Oblivion
-Portal
-Rome Total War
-WoW
Console-only:
-Fallout 3
-Gears 1 & 2
-Guitar Hero/Rock Band/etc.
-Halo (not sure which one)
-MSG 4
-Uncharted 2
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions
Lest We Forget
I <3 cock
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by Rishi on Dec 21, 2009 4:12 PM PST
Lest, indeed.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 11:12 AM PST reply actions 7 recs
lol, Rishi <3 cock (sevenfold?)
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:13 AM PST up reply actions
Never forget.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions
Man down, and out.
Body dumped (presumably) where I bike.
They’re calling it a homicide.
It’s a narrow, windy, desolate road which connects the tiny village of Port Costa (between Crockett and Martinez) with Hwy 4.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
USC 2004 is the third best team of the decade???
Texas (2005)
Miami (2001)
USC (2004)
Florida (2008)
USC (2005)
LSU (2003), Auburn (2004)
Oklahoma (2000)
Texas (2008)
USC (2008)
This list is a freaking joke. Two teams from 2008? No 14-0 Ohio State team from 2002? Worst thing Doc Saturday has put up.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 11:48 AM PST reply actions
Sorry, THREE teams from 2008
Texas 2008 is totally ridiculous, and NO WAY they’re better than that USC 2008 squad.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 11:49 AM PST up reply actions
Please flame him.
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:51 AM PST up reply actions
If you want to get into stupid arguments… USC 2008 35-3 over OSU.. Texas should’ve lost to them in the Fiesta Bowl
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:52 AM PST up reply actions
I’ve gotta write an article about this in the offseason. God this post made me angry.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 11:54 AM PST up reply actions
Honestly, I think it was a huge travesty that we didn’t see USC-Florida in the NCG last year. USC’s only loss came on the road to an Oregon State team that had 7 draft picks that same year (and more in the future of course)
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 11:57 AM PST up reply actions
What a horrible list.
Also, when Texas 2005 beat USC 2005 by 3 points on a fourth down conversion with only a couple ticks on the clock… does that REALLY make them leaps and bounds beyond them?
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They should be 3 and 4 on this list at best.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions
I would say “yes” to that.
Miami ’01 was simple a ridiculous team. Take a look at their 3-deep at RB… they have all made huge impacts on NFL rosters.
its spelled "S-h-u-t-t-h-e H e-l-l-U-p-F-E-L-T"
I also don’t understand this… relatively speaking, Miami 02 and USC 05 were in similar situations. Coming off a national title, consensus #1 all season, overhyped, etc.
Lost to an underdog in a narrow game…
But how does Miami 01 get away, while the lustre is taken off USC 04?
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just spam Doc Sat’s post
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 12:07 PM PST up reply actions
oh
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
They had 16 players taken in the first round of the draft. SIXTEEN.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:09 PM PST up reply actions
PLAYER TEAM POSITION
Spencer Adkins Atlanta Falcons Linebacker
Baraka Atkins San Francisco 49ers Defensive End
Jon Beason Carolina Panthers Linebacker
Phillip Buchanon Detroit Lions Cornerback
Rashad Butler Houston Texans Offensive Tackle
Calais Campbell Arizona Cardinals Defensive End
Vernon Carey Miami Dolphins Offensive Tackle
Antonio Dixon Philadelphia Eagles Defensive Tackle
Jeff Feagles New York Giants Punter
Tavares Gooden Baltimore Ravens Linebacker
Frank Gore San Francisco 49ers Running Back
Orien Harris Cincinnati Bengals Defensive Tackle
Devin Hester Chicago Bears Wide Receiver
Kelly Jennings Seattle Seahawks Cornerback
Bruce Johnson New York Giants Cornerback
Andre Johnson Houston Texans Wide Receiver
William Joseph Oakland Raiders Defensive Tackle
Ray Lewis Baltimore Ravens Linebacker
Damione Lewis Carolina Panthers Defensive Tackle
Darrell McClover Chicago Bears Linebacker
Willis McGahee Baltimore Ravens Running Back
Rocky McIntosh Washington Redskins Linebacker
Bryant McKinnie Minnesota Vikings Offensive Tackle
Brandon Meriweather New England Patriots Safety
Sinorice Moss New York Giants Wide Receiver
Santana Moss Washington Redskins Wide Receiver
Chris Myers Houston Texans Center
Greg Olsen Chicago Bears Tight End
Roscoe Parrish Buffalo Bills Wide Receiver
Kenny Phillips New York Giants Safety
Clinton Portis Washington Redskins Running Back
Ed Reed Baltimore Ravens Safety
Antrel Rolle Arizona Cardinals Safety
Brett Romberg Atlanta Falcons Center
Jeremy Shockey New Orleans Saints Tight End
Jonathan Vilma New Orleans Saints Linebacker
Reggie Wayne Indianapolis Colts Wide Receiver
Vince Wilfork New England Patriots Defensive Tackle
D.J. Williams Denver Broncos Linebacker
Kellen Winslow Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tight End
Eric Winston Houston Texans Offensive Tackle
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 12:14 PM PST up reply actions
Some would argue that they’re starting to climb up the ladder again…
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:22 PM PST up reply actions
I wouldn’t say a lot of their players are “powerhouses” like the guys before. Next year could be pivotal for them…need to make an ACC CG
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 12:23 PM PST up reply actions
Second Place is the Fastest Loser: AKA, The Toby Gerhart Award.
http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/6507/gerhart-is-a-bridesmaid-again
Suh got AP PoY.
Good call, imo.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Considering the loss of Luck and the strengths of the competition, I don’t think Toby’s going to have a good game in the Sun Bowl. But I could very easily be wrong.
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 12:06 PM PST up reply actions
LOL AND JAHVID BEST IS THE BEST
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
I believe so.
Furd’s shit outta Luck
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
But T-bred’s was a bazillion times better
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions
T-bizzle: OSU -3 looks mighty tasty. Should I bite?
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:10 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t really have a good feel for the game. I feel OSU’s secondary could get torched w/o its best cover guy (already suspect)… I think OSU will win, but I wouldn’t bet on it.
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 12:19 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, the pass defense is my main concern, although I think BYU’s run defense is overrated (New Mexico couldn’t run on you? You don’t say!).
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:26 PM PST up reply actions
If you guy MS Word you will go to jail instantly
Because of: BOOM! Infringement
A federal appeals court on Tuesday upheld a $290 million judgment against Microsoft Corp. and issued an injunction that will prevent the sale of its popular Word software
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*buy
Sigh
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 12:12 PM PST up reply actions
If they haven’t made it already they are morons.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 12:18 PM PST up reply actions
From the Chron:
But people looking to buy Word or Microsoft’s Office package in the U.S. won’t have to go without the software. Microsoft said Tuesday it expects that new versions of the product, with the computer code in question removed, will be ready for sale when the injunction begins on Jan. 11.
I just use OpenOffice
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 12:20 PM PST up reply actions
1. One of my stepmoms?
2. Who reacts to family members’ deaths by UPDATING FACEBOOK?
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:32 PM PST up reply actions
http://twitter.com/GOLDENblogs
if you guys are too lazy to look at the mainpage, Berk97 is providing updates
Like cocaine straight from Bolivia.
Unless cal turns the ball over four times tomorrow, they’ll set a team record for fewest turnovers in a season.
This is the kind of thing a Cal fan should NEVER SAY.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:27 PM PST up reply actions
Do not stop at Kettlemen City In N Out.
I’m pretty sure the chemical waste from my lab goes there.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Ruh roh…planning on being there next week.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:40 PM PST up reply actions
Couple things in that article don’t add up. For one, the town complains they don’t get money from the waste management business, but the waste management company pays the county $3mil a year. Why doesn’t the county give the city money? More importantly, all the pesticides and other toxic chemicals in the area can’t be good for the residents either.
The $ is probably split up among many recipients in the county. It probably ends up being pocket change for the town.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 12:48 PM PST up reply actions
well...the landfill is not in the city, but near it.
so the tax revenue goes to the county gov’t first.
the landfill is a deep pocket red herring. the reason there are serious health challenges in Kettleman City is due to ag chemical use by the people who live in Kettleman city. That’s why CWM offered to pay for a full health risk assessment of the town area. ‘cause it will show that it’s not their fault, or that the percentage that is there fault is far less than the ag chemical use.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Dec 22, 2009 4:15 PM PST up reply actions
discolored drinking water and exhaust from traffic on Interstate 5
THAT is ludicrous.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 12:47 PM PST up reply actions
bad drinking water is the norm in the san juaquin valley.
especially that far south.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Dec 22, 2009 4:16 PM PST up reply actions
I was more thinking it ridiculous that I-5 traffic would somehow cause cleft palates.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 4:52 PM PST up reply actions
After years of fighting the waste company, activists have become distrustful, accusing it and public agencies of holding meetings at inconvenient times and places and refusing to translate documents into Spanish.
I realize this makes me sound like a ’neck, but we speak English in this country.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
I never understood why people gave a shit about this.
by HolmoePhobe on Dec 22, 2009 12:58 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, I don’t care if they don’t speak English, just don’t demand that others provide your language of choice.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Why is that unreasonable? If people don’t speak English, they’re obviously not going to be able to read documents that are in English.
the way I see it:
a) Move back to your country if the native language is too big of a hurdle
b) Learn English
c) Translate it your own damn self
d) Stop asking for handouts
e) All of the above
f) a) and d)
g) ???
h) Prophet!!!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Dec 22, 2009 1:06 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Where does asking for handouts even come into the picture? It’s really weird how obsessed you (and so many Americans) with these mythical “government handouts”, to the extent that you bring them up when discussing completely unrelated topics.

look, I’m no illegal immigrant expert…but let’s just say this article passes the eyeball test to me. Seems to use info found from CIS.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Four things (what, you thought I would be concise?):
1. I’ve already agreed with you that illegal immigration should be stopped.
2. The CIS is not a reliable source.
3. Even if it were, note its mention that “the costs that illegal-immigrant households bear on the federal government are less than half that of other households”. This renders your dichotomy of tax-paying-citizens-vs-freeloading-immigrants more than a little inaccurate.
4. Your characterization of translations as “handouts” is silly. Anything that the government does which you disagree with does not automatically constitute “handouts”.
Re: point 3, illegal immigrants cost much less than other households, but then they pay even less in taxes than other households. In other words, their net revenue is much more negative to the government than non-illegals. There are problems with this article, but the quote you picked is taken a little out of context.
(The main problem is that the article doesn’t calculate the benefit to the economy of having cheap illegal immigrant labor for doing farm work, domestic work, etc.)
their net revenue is much more negative to the government than non-illegals
Hmm. Are you sure that [federal spending (illegals) – taxes (illegals)] > [federal spending (citizens) – taxes (citizens). I would actually be really interested in reading more about this.
(The main problem is that the article doesn’t calculate the benefit to the economy of having cheap illegal immigrant labor for doing farm work, domestic work, etc.)
Yeah, I have no idea how to factor that in. Way over my head.
Why is CIS unreliable?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
—R group interactions.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
You might as well give up, H.P. Whipping up irrational fear and hatred toward immigrants has been a staple of American politics for centuries. And it has always worked.
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
haha…good point. And I’m a Democrat although smidge more conservative than the A-1 yahoo/Pelosi lovers.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Ahhhh you said Pelosi… MAKE IT STOP MAKE IT STOP
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Her face scares me. Standing in front of her I feel like she’d try and swallow me whole like one of those snakes eating an egg.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
durrr ya think?
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Carp, you are aware that not all Democrats to the left of you are flaming hippies?
Also, I’d be curious as to whether you have any specific criticisms of Pelosi, or whether this is more of the Clinton-style I-know-I-don’t-like-her-but-I-don’t-know-why.
Yes.
I mostly wish she would not try and see the other side at times. I support her stance on gays, and the Iraq war…and I’m against her stance on expanded medicare/medicaid, immigration, and legalizing pot. I’m raising my eyebrows at her insistence on not impeaching Bushy re: WMD, and her Waterboard involvement feels as if there’s more than meets the eye. While I wholeheatedly feel as if more funding needs to go into education and research, No Child Left Behind was not the way to do it.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
I’m more conservative than you and I think legalizing pot is a good idea…
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:12 PM PST up reply actions
woah…(head explodes)
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
my thinking
pot legal =
1. (mostly) harmless inmate release, saves prisons hundreds of millions.
2. police time spent on more important stuff
3. puts guerrilla farmers and CA cartel ops out of business by something they truly can’t control: market forces mutherfuckers!!! (My fav)
4. I guess the whole medicine/pain relief thing blah blah but honestly that’s the lowest priority.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
1-3 sounds good, but you know the cops (point 2) will just hang out in suburbia/Hwy 80 West on Sundays giving out speeding tickets to the middle & upper class. Either that or have a coffee at Starbucks.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Hey, an upper class speeder can do just as much damage as a lower class speeder.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
true…let’s just say I’d love to see a chart with # of speeding tickets on the Y axis, and lower, middle, and upper class categories on the X axis. Then, I’d like to see the # of people who have paid their traffic citation on the Y axis vs. the same X axis.
I suppose this won’t account for lower class people not having a car/taking public transit/not working cuz they lazy (oh snap!).
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
My main reason against legalizing pot is that I think there are long term effects that are not quite snuffed out yet.
For example, I think there’s a direct link to [weed smoked] and higher[amyloid beta] (Alhzheimer’s…sp?) but I haven’t seen data that supports this hypothesis.
Giving the green light to toke up might lead to more people using or the general consensus that smoking pot is A-OK.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Worse than cigs and booze and tobacco? I figure you can slap a million warnings on it…the morons will still use it and abuse it just like they do the legal drugs.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:44 PM PST up reply actions
pics or you smoke the reefer.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
i don’t smoke weed, but i’m in favor of legalizing it.
or at least legalize online gambling… come on!
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
you want me to send you a picture of me … not smoking pot?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:24 PM PST up reply actions
You’re killing me man.
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
Better than killing it, man.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:26 PM PST up reply actions
Where’s royrules?
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
haha…no, she’s been in the holiday spirit lol!
(must be my laced egg nog)
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Does this mean she has fully let go of one entire testicle?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:27 PM PST up reply actions
Spazzy, did you end up dancing it up at the nightclub?
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
Nope! And she was totally fine with it.
Seriously.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
ps thanks for your guiding light AndBears!
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
Thanks for the detailed response.
I agree with most of your criticisms (NCLB sucks, Kennedy sold out on that one) although I opposed impeaching Bush. I still don’t think Pelosi is as much of a super-liberal hippie type as many suggest.
“NO YOU ARE” isn’t a very effective debating strategy, Rishi. Although I’d be curious to know what you’re referring to. In a sense, all political platforms use fear insofar as they refer to the negative consequences of voting for the other guys.
CalBear81 makes a comment about politics in general. You make the implication that only the Republican Party does it. I make the statement that it is wrong and the Democratic Party also uses the same strategy…
Basically, you seem to believe like one party is morally superior to the other. And I don’t get it.
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You didn’t say it was wrong. You only made a snide comment about the Democrats, which btw you failed to give a single example for.
Incidentally…this is like the fiftieth time you’ve accused me of thinking that one party is “morally superior” or “good” or “evil” or whatever. Let me make this clear to you once again, since you still don’t seem to get it:
I don’t think morality has anything to do with politics. In fact, I don’t think I’ve ever used the words “good” or “evil” in the context of politics. So please stop whining about how I “think Republicans are evil”. I don’t. The idea that a political party could be evil is completely meaningless to me.
To be fair, tho, the Republicans are quite evil.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
Oh come on!
You’re seriously focusing too much on the good vs evil part and ignoring the fact that you seem to think that Republicans are all wrong and Democrats are all right.
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I disagree and think this should develop into a 500-comment thread!
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
I just thought it was supposed to be supa dupa.
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions

“All right, that’s it, I’m shutting this game down.”
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
hey hey hey HEY HEY HEY!!! let’s everyone just calm down and stop with the name calling!!!!…
….by the way you’re all FUCKING DUMBFUCKS if you don’t think Halo 2 is the greatest game ever.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:56 PM PST up reply actions
I’m pretty excited to be heading down to the Poinsettia Bowl cock tomorrow.
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
You would love to replace game with cock wouldn’t you?
by CaliforniaBone on Dec 22, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
And head down to USC for the next Cockcocks game?
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
I can't wait to go home and play with my game in my room.
by CaliforniaBone on Dec 22, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions
I miss the old days when I could spend all summer sitting at home playing with my cockboy.
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 3:07 PM PST up reply actions
I’m focusing too much on the accusation that you make every time we talk about politics? Heh.
Besides, that’s just a generic accusation for you to make, it can’t be proven one way or the other.
Uh...
“Basically, you seem to believe like one party is morally superior to the other. And I don’t get it.”
You’ve made variations on this accusation dozens of times. I can go back and find them if you want. Don’t play the victim.
I don’t want to pull a “but you started it!”, but it usually starts with you making some inflammatory comment against Republican.s..
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Sigh
Forget it. Please go back to generalizing all Republicans and assuming that everything wrong with the world is due to Republicans.
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..But, everything wrong with the world is due to Republicans.
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Wow. You made an accusation, I asked you to substantiate it, and you respond by making the same accusation. Brilliant.
This!
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
and evil (90% at least)
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions
Just better be in English.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 3:25 PM PST up reply actions
What about Spainglish?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Is the Constitution written in Spainglish? Didn’t think so.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 3:31 PM PST up reply actions
90% of Republicans are evil.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
You’re killing me man.
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
but the other 10% are grrrrrrrrreat!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/Q/g/1/nancy_pelosi_et.jpg
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
as opposed to Red Sox fans, 100% of whom are annoying and evil
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
they are so annoying I almost like them. Yes I said it. Way better than Yankees fans.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
You’re killing me man.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions
If I had to move from CA…I’d wish I end up in MA.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
What. The. Fuck.
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 3:28 PM PST up reply actions
You want to live with the Massholes? Good luck…
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
No, because it greatly slows and raises the cost of doing business in both public and private spheres?
gets turned into
whipping up irrational fear and hatred toward immigrants
.
Reminds me of how “new SAHPC building on old stadium landscaping” gets turned into “mother earth gets raped when rich people build gym for athletes”
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
I made an observation about the treatment of the immigration issue throughout American history. Do you disagree with my observation?
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
I think you made a subtle implication that HolmoePhobe was arguing against people who are xenophobic.
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Wow, good phrasing, Rishi! You could be an attorney some day.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
If you don’t think xenophobia and racism are present in American society, you’re not paying attention. That doesn’t mean Spazzy or carp are racist, but it does mean that some actors have an incentive to stir up debate about cultural/language/etc.-related issues. I think that’s what CalBear81 was referencing.
Correct. I don’t think anyone here is xenophobic or racist. But I do wish people in general had more historical background. It is painful to hear some of the same accusations made against immigrants by “populist” TV and radio commentators now that were made against my ancestors and the ancestors of the anti-immigrant people two or three generations ago — and to have so many people swallow it hook, line and sinker.
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
Hey, what do you have against xenophobic and racist people? That’s intolerant!
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:54 PM PST up reply actions
What do you have against intolerant people? That’s intolerant!
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
CalBear81: Do you think everyone should “accept” every other culture/way of life? Or is simply to tolerate without discrimination enough?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not quite sure where that question is coming from. Seriously? I don’t think every other culture or way of life needs to be either accepted or tolerated. For example, I feel no need to accept or tolerate cultures or ways of life that degrade or dehumanize people based on their gender or race. And I believe that if people choose to move to another country, it is their obligation to conform themselves to the minimum standards of that country (e.g., you don’t get to chop you child’s hand off because he stole something, or murder your daughter because she had sex).
More generally, I don’t think people have any obligation to “accept” the way other people do things. For example, telling a religious person that he or she must “accept” homosexuality can be just as intolerant of that person’s religious beliefs as that person is intolerant of homosexuals. But to live, as we do, in an extraordinarily diverse society requires that everyone “tolerate” many things of which they do not above. There’s no other way for that society to function.
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
Thanks, I was just curious. I had a teacher in high school who was adamant that “tolerance” of gays was not enough. Full “acceptance” had to be the final condition. Even though I’ve always believed gays deserve equal rights as everyone, I didn’t agree with her statement.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
I’m not racist against anyone! Except Italians.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
I could make a joke about spicy-a-meat-a-balls but I won’t.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:17 PM PST up reply actions
Because it’s already been done?
Also,
Nelson: Here comes a greaseball!
Luigi: [walking in] Hey! Luigi bring-a you kids-a free pizza! Why do you hafta make-a the fun, huh?
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
No, but odd that such an important, broad sweeping comment came on the heels of carp’s and my comments on specific examples of translation hurting business.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
For that matter, what’s the downside to providing documents in other languages? It’s no different than providing documents in an electronic format in addition to hard copy – all it does is make information available to more people (which in my book is always a good thing).
Frankly, the whole “speak English or leave” thing seems based solely on xenophobia. I can’t see any other explanation why you would care what language someone else spoke.
There is an expense associated with translation. The issue then becomes who should bear it.
CGB: Speak English or DIE!
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 1:23 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously firms should not be obligated to bear the expenses for translation if they don’t want to. But I don’t see how you can apply that logic to public agencies.
True, when rich states like California are involved, they should go ahead and spend the money to translate everything. Oh, wait, crap…
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 1:25 PM PST up reply actions
Why do people always frame all state spending as unnecessary spending?
If the people who want translations available are paying taxes…which they are…
Not all state spending is unnecessary. Just that wasteful crap like roads, sewers, infrastructure, etc. I don’t need infrastructure!
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 1:28 PM PST up reply actions
So if I speak tribal Cambodian I should expect a public information session from a private company to be held in tribal Cambodian?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:26 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t know if you can’t read or you’re just putting words in my mouth.
I said “Obviously firms should not be obligated to bear the expenses for translation if they don’t want to.”
Spazzy can’t read. I think the state should hire a person to follow him around reading him stuff.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 1:32 PM PST up reply actions
There is a certain amount of humor in the fact that two people who work in finance and some kinda science are constantly telling me I’m wrong about everything. I wonder how they’d feel if I told them I knew more than them about finance and chemistry.
some kinda science
You mean, like witchcraft?
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Eh, go sue a white person, PoliSci major.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:41 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t even know what this is supposed to mean, I assume you’re accusing me of hating white people or something equally stupid.
We prefer “European American.” Thanks
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 1:45 PM PST up reply actions
Striech nevau dom ere tieschi va leknoce dubirea mais steil laengu!
Translation: I can’t understand you, can you please reprint that in Lowland Slovakian?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions
Man, if one nickel of my tax dollars went to that translation I’m gonna rip off your head and crap down your throat
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:18 PM PST up reply actions
Spazzy works for company that receives tax kickbacks from the government. Part of that money is used on electricity to power Spazzy’s computer, from where he typed that post.
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I am SO ready to crap right now. I’m full of crap!
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, don’t worry, I totally learned the language on my own.
In part because it’s completely made up, but still!
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
I’m willing to learn more about social issues, etc.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
If he’s putting words in your mouth, you should insist he wash his hands with anti-bacterial soap first.
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
*cough * you’re showing your age, my dear.
A recent experiment by dermatologists at the University of California, San Diego, suggests a molecular basis for the hygiene hypothesis. They found common bacteria living on the surface of skin that can help wounds to heal by releasing a special molecule to stop outer-skin cells getting inflamed. Bacteria-free skin, in other words, may provoke inflammation and slow healing.
First-time parents, writes Mary Ruebush, an American immunologist and author of "Why Dirt is Good", frantically try to keep their babies away from dirt. "When that pacifier falls on the floor, the parents cannot throw themselves on it quickly enough to wash it off, soak it in bleach, run it through the dishwasher, the microwave, you name it." The trouble is, she adds, such a baby will not have the contact with germs that are needed to build up a strong immune system. Children rather should be encouraged to play in the dirt.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Better than tressing with Flirt’s misttwist.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions
Oh no!! An expense!! I guess for that matter, fuck all the blind and deaf people. We shouldn’t have to waste money on braille and sign language translators and shit.
Look, there’s an obvious incentive for everyone who lives in this country to learn English, and that isn’t magically taken away because a few documents get printed in Spanish or Vietnamese or whatever. If you don’t speak English, there’s a ceiling on what you can achieve in this country. We’ve had first-generation immigrants come from many different non-English speaking countries, and while they may struggle with the language barrier, guess what? Their descendants all speak English. Do they speak German in Wisconsin? No. Do they speak Swedish or Norwegian in Minnesota? No. Have you ever met a Mexican-American who was born in the USA, went to school here, and didn’t speak English?
I don’t see what the big deal is about governments printing a few extra documents in another language if there’s a big demand for it. It seems incredibly irrational to worry that English is somehow going to stop being the dominant language.
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 2:35 PM PST up reply actions
I went to a taqueria and tried to order a burrito. I wanted to find out if their refried beans had lard in them or not.
They didn’t speak English. I could not find out.
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Then maybe you should go to another taqueria, or else learn the Spanish word for “lard”.
Or maybe your county should require that nutritional information be posted.
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
The framers didn’t put nutritional information requirements in the Constitution, so NO DICE
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:44 PM PST up reply actions
man
…Stupid Founding Fathers, ruining everyone’s burritos like that.
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, bad example Rishi. Private enterprise. In theory their lack of customers from people unhappy with their lack of English should drive them out of business. But my guess is most Mexican food places aren’t going out of business anytime soon because the Indian-American-Vegetarian demographic isn’t a huge one, sadly for you.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Rishi, do you have any political analogies that don’t involve you going to restaurants and ordering food? I’m starting to worry about your health if you keep eating all these burgers and burritos.
You should have said:
Esta manteca en los juevos?
Translation: I love cock.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:46 PM PST up reply actions 5 recs
rev’d x a billion
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
not until we stop and collaborate.
by turkey on Dec 22, 2009 11:18 AM PST
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 2:57 PM PST up reply actions
baby don’t say that!
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:05 PM PST up reply actions
Ha! Thanks union contract!
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:19 PM PST up reply actions
No, it’s not “speak English or leave” it’s “when you attend public or private informational meetings conducted in the US, don’t expect them to be in the language of your choosing.”
Did your parents expect their employers to conduct meetings in whatever Indian language they might have spoken when they first moved here?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:24 PM PST up reply actions
No, it isn’t. My great grandparents, when they immigrated, did three things: found housing, found a job, and learned English, immediately. It was number three on the list. And they didn’t whine to the gov’t to provide documents in Hungarian, either.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:51 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t see how anecdotal evidence (either yours or mine) is relevant to the utility of the translation of public documents.
If you scroll upthread, my original comments were asking why people get so pissed off about the English-only thing. Not being outraged about a lack of translation.
activists have become distrustful, accusing it and public agencies of holding meetings at inconvenient times and places and refusing to translate documents into Spanish.
It seems that’s where the original argument sprung from…
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You certainly don’t!
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:02 PM PST up reply actions
Which article of the Constitution is it again that requires everyone to speak English?
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
As effective tools of communication, they are sub-standard.
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
But should it be illegal for a Native American to speak only Navajo or Sioux or Hopi, or whatever?
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
Does adopting English as an official language mean that it’s illegal to only speak another? I thought it only referred to conducting business…
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Why shouldn’t we all have to learn to conduct business in Navajo or Sioux or Hopi, then?
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
Man, if I have to learn how to paint homo erectus cave pictoglyphs in order to draft a contract I will NOT be happy
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Only if the Constitution says so. Original text!
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 3:00 PM PST up reply actions
But if you’re a gnome you get +2 Constitution!
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Flagged for D&D reference
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 3:04 PM PST up reply actions
Flagged for getting the reference
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:09 PM PST up reply actions
umm…i’m not participating in this discussion. but illegal? no
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 2:43 PM PST up reply actions
I mean, if they’re plotting murder, then definitely.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
If the Cherokee would like to take their reservations and turn it into a Cherokee-only zone, I am 100% in favour of that.
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What about a Grand Cherokee-only zone, with better facilities and infrastructure?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
Right next to the article that says all laws can only be in the Constitution.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, so there’s a LAW which says everybody has to speak English?
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
DEY TUUK URR JERBZZZZ
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
I was going after you for implying that all laws must be in the Constitution. Same kinda argument used by folks who refuse to pay their taxes. I think the US doesn’t even have an official language declaration anywhere.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
Damn immigrants*!!!1
*specifically the funny-colored ones
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:34 PM PST up reply actions
Speak AMERICAN English or Die!
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.theodoresworld.net/pics/0407/illegal_aliens_FUCK_You.jpg
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
I wasn't saying that
But the Constitution is the document that sets the template for the government, so if the Founders had wanted to ensure all business be done in English, that would’ve been a good place to put it.
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 2:40 PM PST up reply actions
They also kinda left out all civil rights (thus the first ten amendments), so let’s not focus too much on the original text of the founders.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
to be fair to them though
They stuck in the rights just a couple of years later. At least, the rights for white men.
I totally agree that we focus way too much on the Founders’ intent though. The Constitution is our document to abide and amend as necessary.
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 2:49 PM PST up reply actions
I think its inherent in the fact that the Constitution is written in English.
by CaliforniaBone on Dec 22, 2009 3:02 PM PST up reply actions
English is even the official language of the future! And space!
by Yes We Cannon on Dec 22, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Bigger problem is accurate translation of technical
scientific reports into 8th grade spanish. It’s hard enough to make them readable in English.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Dec 22, 2009 4:18 PM PST up reply actions
Don’t blame the business owners. It’s illegal to refuse to hire someone because they don’t speak English, unless speaking English is necessary to performing the job.
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
I mean, I’m blaming business owners who hire illegal immigrants.
If the entire management and training staff speaks English, then wouldn’t it mean that it’s necessary to speak English to perform that job? Couldn’t that argument be made about any job?
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That argument can certainly be made about any job. The problem is, for many jobs, the employer would lose.
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
I’m actually really curious as to how this has held up in the past. Can you provide some more colour?
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Under both federal and state law, refusing to hire someone because of language issues is considered discrimination based on national origin. The employer has the burden of proving that the job requires the employee to speak English. If the worker could literally not speak or understand a single word of English, and all the supervisors and managers didn’t speak a word of the worker’s language, then the employer could probably win the case, because it would be unable to give instructions to the worker. But typically, workers can understand the few words needed to give them instructions. Almost no one is incapable of learning enough English for that, although they can hardly be said to “speak English.” These are jobs like agricultural laborers, hotel maids, janitors, etc., where the worker does the same task over and over, and generally needs very little communication from management.
November 20, 1982 - a date that will live in famy.
Go one step further, blame the people who don’t speak English for having the audacity to live here to begin with, because apparently we all have to have a gigantic stick up our asses about people whom just want to improve their lives and the lives of their families and who are willing to put in the hard work to do it.
What-the-fuck-ever.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
by AERose on Dec 22, 2009 8:26 PM PST up reply actions 2 recs
For exactly the reason above?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:02 PM PST up reply actions
People care about only speaking English in this country because otherwise activists will accuse waste companies and public agencies of refusing to translate documents into Spanish…?
No, because it greatly slows and raises the cost of doing business in both public and private spheres?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:12 PM PST up reply actions
. . . I can’t tell what you’re arguing or saying. Your previous post doesn’t even make sense.
I am saying that having to conduct interactions in two languages makes things less efficient.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:18 PM PST up reply actions
Sigh.
No, because it greatly slows and raises the cost of doing business in both public and private spheres?
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and people not being able to communicate/not being able to do business doesn’t?
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people not being able to communicate/not being able to do business doesn’t greatly slow and raise the cost of doing business in both public and private spheres?
Something tells me I’d be wrong not to assume you didn’t not major in something other than rhetoric.
I still don’t know what the fuck you’re trying to say.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:29 PM PST up reply actions
rec’d for sentence with 2 “somethings” and triple negative.
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 1:33 PM PST up reply actions
Holmoephobe, I seriously do not understand what the fuck you are trying to say. If you want your arguments to be taken seriously you’re gonna have to drop the sarcasm and be more clear.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
There’s no point because you’re obviously intent on framing the issue as “immigrants and crazy liberals want to waste public and private money on useless translations”.
That isn’t “framing the issue,” that IS the issue. Immigrants want to waste money on useless translations. How is that “framing” anything?!
“Framing” the issue would be me saying something like: Illegal immigrants cost the state x millions of dollars in health care costs per year [totally irrelevant], which has helped lead to massive budget deficits in CA [mostly wrong]. Spanish-speakers in Kettleman City want public hearings to be held at the time and place of their choosing and conducted in Spanish, all on the state’s dime. Moreover, illegal immigrants are burdening the state’s education system blah blah [totally irrelevant].
^THAT would be framing the argument.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 1:56 PM PST up reply actions
also thisthe issue
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
hey now don’t jump to conclusions. you might pull a hammy.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:00 PM PST up reply actions
Actually, the language you use (such as “waste” and “useless”) constitutes framing, rather than providing irrelevant or inaccurate information.
Spending money on things that aren’t needed is typically thought of as waste. And if things aren’t needed, they are useless, at least in terms of state government budgeting. So I don’t see that as “framing.”
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:07 PM PST up reply actions
This is a really boring debate, even for you guys. Why can’t you debate Rishi <3ing cock.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 2:08 PM PST up reply actions
…there’s nothing to debate there.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:09 PM PST up reply actions
You have really poor taste.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 2:14 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah we could be debating video games…
My favorite is
Blow Up the Alien With the Gun 2. Then again I also like Blow Up the Alien With the Gun 3.
What about you?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:16 PM PST up reply actions
Oh come on dude, it’s all about the zombies…
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
Oh that’s a good one. How about Defeat Strange Characters in Mythical Land With Lovable Animal Character 4?
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
Whether or not those things are needed is subjective; in that sense it constitutes framing. Don’t shoot me, I didn’t come up with the definition.
I’m quite partial to Shoot Holmoephobe 4
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by Rishi on Dec 22, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
I prefer Make HolmoePhobe Start A Business In Korea Using Only Swahili 2.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Well, the more time you waste spend translating things, the longer it takes to hire employees, which hampers growth, so it can be really tricky.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:36 PM PST up reply actions
Can we play Spazzy Only Understands Oversimplified Dichotomies and Completely Lacks any Understanding of Nuance after that?
That’s a terrible name for a game. Who would play anything with that name?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 2:48 PM PST up reply actions
Well, I’m waiting for SOUODCLAUN II: SOUODCLAUN Harder for Xbox.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 2:51 PM PST up reply actions
Hell yes!!! Dude your clan has one of the highest Dichotomy ratings on the web!
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:11 PM PST up reply actions
Someone needs to oversimplify it for Rishi (read up a bit)
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by CALumbus Bear on Dec 22, 2009 3:16 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry you’re going to need a better Understanding of Nuance factor to be able to grasp it.
So what can you say?
by Spazzy Mcgee on Dec 22, 2009 3:20 PM PST up reply actions
Yes? Translating documents into Spanish costs business money, and not having to do it doesn’t cost money. I think that’s the correct way to parse what you just posted. Either way, the question in this context is if the onus should be on the company to translate documents into English, or if the burden is on the immigrants/activists to translate the documents themselves.
When a significant percentage of the workforce in your state doesn’t (speak English), it helps to be effective in communicating with them when you want things done.
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
by GoldBlooded on Dec 22, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
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"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
are you and Rishi just going to post separately every single lamebook entry from today?
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 12:37 PM PST up reply actions
Avinash
You’ll get that first win tonight, buddy. I can just feel it!
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Football related! Rulon Davis!
http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/Wilson-Rulon-Davis-joining-Jaguars-practice-squad.html
Looks like Rulon is joining the Jaguars. no other information available.
at times, he’s beastly.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
like a werewolf
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
by GoldBlooded on Dec 22, 2009 12:59 PM PST up reply actions
those times when he’s not injured, i assume
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 1:00 PM PST up reply actions
[truth]
Avatar is awesome.
[/truth]
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
Ain’t my fault CGB doesn’t have official [truth] tags.
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
when make it bold, you make it truth
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 1:35 PM PST up reply actions
Currently on the front page of ESPN.com!!!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 2:02 PM PST reply actions
Jerome Randle profile
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by Avinash Kunnath on Dec 22, 2009 3:05 PM PST reply actions
SUCKERS!
Stanford loses 4-star OL commit:
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recruiting/player-Torrian-Wilson-81842
Four-star offensive guard Torrian Wilson (Miami/Northwestern) has decommitted from Stanford, ESPN’s JC Shurburtt reports.
The Under Armour All-American now has Michigan, Tennessee and South Florida as his top three.
Wilson, who originally committed to the Cardinal in September, was also recruited by Alabama, Florida International, Miami-FL, LSU, UCLA, South Carolina, Georgia Tech, Florida and Central Florida.
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He wants things known to mankind…what hubris!
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by Thoroughbred on Dec 22, 2009 4:46 PM PST up reply actions
well....thank you for making most of the dbd about
english only and immigration today….i was able to skip a lot.
that said, whoo hoo kettleman city!
Go Bears Go
I was going to say that that was yesterday, but really it’s all day, every day, isn’t it.
by atomsareenough on Dec 22, 2009 5:04 PM PST up reply actions
http://www.californiagoldenblogs.com/2009/12/22/1212001/dbd-12-22-09-i-liked-avatar-no#27555114
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
If/when I see avatar I fully expect it to be terrible
I suppose it may be good compared to the typical trash coming out of big-budget Hollywood but that still only makes it better than trash.

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