California 75, Murray State 70: Defense And Free Throws Carry The Day
Give credit to Murray State. They battled us right through the first half, then came back from what seemed like an insurmountable late deficit to make everyone fritter. Their team is really good as rags indicated, probably one of the best mid-majors in the country. Don't be shocked to see them earn a #14/#15 seed come March.
Still, from an aesthetic standpoint, it wasn't the most impressive win in the world for the Bears, and Jerome Randle continued to struggle (4/12 shooting, again nearly a 1:1 assist-turnover ratio); Isiah Canaan battled him hard and really didn't let him rest out there. The offense was out of sync, they were slow to run out on the 3 point line (they conceded everything from downtown to prevent the penetration to the paint, and gave up 24 points from downtown), and there were too many awkward-looking shots that I'd like to forget.
But the defense picked up when it needed to, holding Murray State down during the middle part of the game, and the offense broke out of its malaise to break it open in the second half. The Bears forced 17 turnovers, a huge improvement over last season, they found a way to get to the foul line (32 free throw attempts to Murray State's 15), Randle made up for his ugly shooting with 10 big free throws, and the zone held. Sometimes, you gotta win ugly.
The Bears are 1-0! Our game against Detroit is this Wednesday.
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Worst part of the game: fan attendance. Awful performance by Cal fans. Even Faraudo thinks so.
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by BeastMode on Nov 10, 2009 9:26 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Totally, I couldn’t believe how few people were there. My guess is that people are really scared off by the 8 p.m. tip-off, but that is just sad. We are a top 12 team, playing in the premier preseason tournament (sure, we do auto-qualify for the final four). Pretty awful. Hopefully people decided that they really wanted to see Detroit tonight! How was student turnout?
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 10, 2009 9:33 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It was a weak turnout for a team ranked so highly, but actually not bad given the no-name opponent and attendance at non-conference games in previous years. Cal Basketball just hasn’t drawn during the non-conference schedule as long as I can remember.
As it was, AndBears had class last night, and I couldn’t find anyone to take my extra ticket, so there’s at least one empty seat for you.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Nov 10, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure classes aren’t the reason for the low turnout. And, all those other schools in the tournament were playing mid-major or lower teams. The disappointing thing was that the turnout was bad by both students AND alumni.
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by BeastMode on Nov 10, 2009 9:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think the alumni not showing up is kinda excusable, but the students should be there. Basketball games only take a few hours if you live near campus.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 10, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s what I love about hoops, short and sweet. Football is an all day event that basically controls my weekend.
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by BeastMode on Nov 10, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
These games have always been tough and the two games in three nights thing really does make it tough to get the arena filled. Also, I hadn’t considered the home football game both last Saturday and this Saturday, I guess people might not want to devote their entire life to Cal sports. But man, you would think people would at least try to make it to the opener.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 10, 2009 9:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
But man, you would think people would at least try to make it to the opener.
You really would. I’m worried that the turnout for Detroit is going to be even worse than it was for this game.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Nov 10, 2009 9:47 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My guess is it will be about the same.
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by BeastMode on Nov 10, 2009 9:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Prolly the same
But who knows? It might be better. Wednesday night might be a better night than a Monday for a lot of people.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Nov 10, 2009 9:50 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you know my email.
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by rollonubears on Nov 10, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I didn’t know you didn’t already have tickets, though. Why don’t you already have tickets!??!
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Nov 10, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Because I live an hour away and it was a school night? I wouldn’t actually have gone, but an invitation every once in awhile is nice.
I feel dirty saying this, but I have never actually been to a Cal basketball game…
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by rollonubears on Nov 10, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
For shame! Tonight’s game is also on a school night, but I expect to see you at Haas in a couple weeks. Jacksonville is the Tuesday night before Thanksgiving (nothing ever gets done that Wednesday) and Princeton shows up for a 2PM tip the Sunday after. Let’s make it happen!
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Nov 11, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
(nothing ever gets done that Wednesday)
False.
I can’t make Princeton either. However, your peer pressure worked. In the time since I read your comment about 10 minutes ago, I purchased tickets to December 5th against Iowa State.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Overall, I think this was a nice win. Murray State was better than I would have thought based on name alone. They were quick with the ball, and their coach made nice adjustments throughout the game (man to zone to press).
The Bears did play a lot better than the score indicates and some players showed noticeable improvement. Jorge’s shot looks totally revamped (unlike other sports, injuries can really help players get better in basketball). Max looked more than serviceable. Sanders-Frison gives the team some toughness and size that has really has been lacking, and seems willing to knock people down when necessary – and it is necessary when you run your offense through a player as tiny as Randle.
As for Pat Chris / Randle / Robertson – man, in the offseason I really did forget how well those guys shoot the ball. If you can shoot, you are in every game. Christopher’s dunk early in the game was very nice – I hope he keeps asserting himself around the bucket like that.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 10, 2009 9:42 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
They basically look like the same exact team as last year with the addition of MSF and more time to Amoke. So, they are a bit better, I think. I don’t think Jorge’s shot looks THAT much better though and I’m not sold on Max being MORE than serviceable.
In the end, Murray State has a good shot at an NCAA bid, so this win will actually be an asset come selection time. That said, to be better than last year, Cal needs improvement from Amoke and Seeley and MSF needs to establish some modicum of an inside presence.
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by BeastMode on Nov 10, 2009 9:46 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, my Zhang comment probably needs to be clarified. I really meant that eventually the guy could be a real contributor if not a starter. He is still only a sophomore and seems like he has improved a lot. He looked fairly comfortable with the ball last night. That is a hell of a lot more than I ever expected. Given our recent string of big men, I am happy with that.
Time will tell with Jorge, but I didn’t wince last night when I saw him shoot jump shots which is a change.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 10, 2009 9:58 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jorge’s shot does look much better. I don’t want him shooting too much this year, but he really seems to have worked on it.
Sanders-Frison is a nice body inside, though I’m afraid we’re going to lose almost every tipoff this year if he’s the one taking them. Dude will get outjumped every time. A surprisingly nice shot from the top of the key, too.
Max is serviceable on defense, but he definitely still makes our offense worse by being on the floor. He just looked lost out there, especially when he had to handle the ball at the top of the key.
I actually was surprised by Boykin’s improvement. Dude always had hustle and a nose for the ball, but now he’s added some really nice ball/head fakes, enabling him to get some easy shots inside. You don’t often see seniors getting much better, but I think he’s really added something to our offense this year. Just thinking about him and Kamp on the floor at the same time…man, this team could really be good.
Randle was clearly flustered by the guy guarding him, and was having a lot of trouble running our offense. I actually thought Brandon Smith did a better job in his minutes. Monty was definitely shouting a Randle almost as much as he was jawing at the refs. Still, Jerome led all scorers with 18, so it must be nice to have that be called an “off-night”.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Nov 10, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Randle didn’t look great with the ball – but I actually think it was a good thing that he was challenged last night. For now, I think I will just consider it an off night, but it will be interesting to see if Smith gets more minutes at the point, with Randle sliding to the 2 and P Chris at the 3. The last couple years, we haven’t had a good ballhandler other that Randle, so at the least Smith gives us options.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 10, 2009 10:01 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Against a team like Murray, that could work, but that may be a tough proposition against teams with decent sized guys 1 to 3.
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by BeastMode on Nov 10, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Boykin is by far my favorite to watch. Good rebounder and can finish down low. I thought I saw a lot of what he did last night last year. He is the most underrated guy on the team.
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by BeastMode on Nov 10, 2009 10:03 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Randle did not play well last night
He was our leading scorer, mostly on strength of 10 of 11 FT shooting. (He missed one! Gasp!) But he seemed careless with the ball at times, had more TOs than assists, and made questionable decisions on at least a couple of shots that I can recall. I expect Randle to have much better performances than that.
P Chris was P Chris and Theo was Theo. Jorge was Jorge (maybe with a better shot). Boykin impressed me. Last week against Chico State, I thought Boykin had a different look about him, more aggressive on the offensive end and maybe even more tenacious on the boards than last year. Last night, he seemed to show that again. His driving dunk in the 1st half was great and I liked the way he seemed to look for opportunities to drive to the basket when he got the ball down low. That’s something I don’t remember seeing that often last year (or at least not often enough).
I might have short changed MSF on his offensive game last week. He showed a nice mid range jumper for one of his baskets and I also liked the way he easily backed his defender down low for an easy basket. I’m really not counting on MSF for scoring, but if he can give us some production like that from time to time, it will be a nice little wrinkle for our offense.
I believe that if Randle had played better last night we would have won the game by at least 15 points. Give credit to Murray State, though. They have some talented players and they defended fairly well, especially in transition.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Nov 10, 2009 9:58 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Agreed, its good to see Boykin finishing in the post this year, if he continues to show an inside presence, Boykin combined with MSF and Kamp will provide a smaller but still strong and skilled inside presence…. Now if we could just throw Zhang and MSF into a “The Fly” like contraption to get a super center!!!
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by CruzinBears on Nov 10, 2009 10:09 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jerome – Had a tough game. Struggled with MS’s athletic defenders. A bit sloppy with the ball in the 1st half, did better in the 2nd. Showed better effort getting around screens and closing out on shooters on D. I do like that even though he was having trouble getting his shot off, he found ways to manufacture points at the foul line. I hope this was just a blip on the radar. He had trouble with quick, athletic guards that played tight D last year, too.
PC – Shot it pretty well. Wished he could have been more of a presence on the boards and defending their dribble penetration. Still lets the game come to him which is both good and bad. For a while, their tight D made him disappear – glad he didn’t let that frustrate him and kept working hard to get open.
Theo – Strong and smooth. We would have had 2+ dunks if he could just come to a jump stop in the key and dish instead of running over the defender. He’ll probably be our most consistent performer.
Boykin – Big improvement from last year. Still has the hustle and does the dirty work inside. Looks like he’s more polished and less spastic with his post moves. He also showed better handles which should help if he gets matched up with a bigger, slower guy. Fundamentally sound, but still has trouble blocking off quick guys with hops from the glass.
MSF – When he gets in shape and they learn to play with him, a really nice addition to the team. Didn’t look like the jump from JC to DI phased him. Showed both an outside shot and a really polished jump hook. Doesn’t have the hops or height to swat shots, so he’ll have trouble with athletic wings that attack the basket. Better conditioning will improve his footwork and positioning.
Jorge – Somebody found a jump shot on the offseason. Que bueno! Love his energy and defense. Did a better job of being in control on offense, but still don’t want him running the show for any extended period of time. His midrange game is a work in progress. He’s kind of like controlled chaos – you love it on defense, it makes you a bit nervous on offense.
Seeley – Tough night. Didn’t really distinguish himself on either end of the court…unless you count missing a wide open 3 by several feet. I think he’s pressing. He just needs to slow down, play hard on D and let the game come to him. Otherwise, he’s not going to see much time.
Amoke – He was physical and active while he was in there. Unfortunately, this didn’t translate into much on the stat sheet. Like Seeley, he’ll probably be up and down all year. Still needs to work on finishing around the hoop, might be rushing things. If he can just play tough D and board, he’ll get some time.
Smith – Very pleased with what I saw. Against a tough pressure D with quick guards and athletic wings, he was poised. He showed better quickness than I thought and made some nice passes. The offense ran better in the 1st half while he was in there. He’s insurance against Randle getting in foul trouble – last year, the offense just didn’t run smoothly when Randle was out. This let’s us keep Jorge off the ball where he’s better suited.
Max – Keep eating and pumping weights, buddy. In two years, you’ll dominate 5-10 min per game against backups.
Harper – Probably won’t play Weds. I’d probably keep him shut down until Pac-10 play.
Bak Bak – One word, dude. “Beefcake!!!”
Overall: Murray State looked like a well-coached, veteran team. They had a good gameplan and took advantage initially with a dribble-drive and dish game. I like that we were able to crank up the D to shut that down. Last year, I don’t know that we play good enough defense to build an 18 pt lead. Two years ago, this is a game we lose. I’m actually not too worried that we blew the lead and had to hold on to win. I’d rather have some adversity early and get the guys focused instead of reading their own press clippings. In all honesty, #12 in the country is way overrated. We’re the same team as last year with the same strengths and weaknesses. Great outside shooting, great at the free throw line, and guys that don’t fear the big shot. No proven low-post threat, no shotblocking, weak on the glass, and only average athleticism. MSF is a nice addition, but we need a sustained group effort on defense and on the glass. We built our lead when we had it, lost it when we got lax. The guys need to be reminded of that and I’m sure Monty let them hear it. All in all, not a bad start to hoops season.
by Kodiak on Nov 10, 2009 2:42 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
Agreed just about everywhere, and rec’d!
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Nov 10, 2009 3:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We’re the same team as last year with the same strengths and weaknesses.
Pretty much agreed, although I think getting MSF is like replacing Jordan Wilkes with a tougher, more tenacious version of himself.
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by norcalnick on Nov 10, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wilkes, in addition to being taller, had longer arms, and much better leaping ability. I also think he had a better jump shot. Of course, he does give bulk, toughness and rebounding ability to Sanders.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Nov 10, 2009 6:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Huh, I don’t remember Jordan leaping particularly well, although I guess he was still better than MSF
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by norcalnick on Nov 10, 2009 7:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mostly because he had no knees.
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by rollonubears on Nov 10, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I would love to go to Cal bball game this year but I don't think I can
:( I is sad
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Nov 11, 2009 9:48 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Hey, they do play in Seattle this (and every) year.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
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