Cal vs. Ohio State Men's Hoops Open Thread
by TwistNHook on Nov 20, 2009 1:38 PM PST
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PrintYesterday, we had a disappointing loss against Syracuse. Troy Nunes Is A Magician had this to say:
Forget LeMoyne. Forget the preseason rankings (or lack thereof). Forget everything you've been hearing. Syracuse is a good basketball team. And for all the excuses that you'll hear tomorrow (It's like a home game...Theo Robertson was out..), Syracuse absolutely dominated the No. 12 team in the nation tonight. For Syracuse fans who have been suffering through football season and had to deal with the LeMoyne blowback...tonight's win over Cal was a lot of fun.
I couldn't pick Troy Nunes out of a lineup of one if he was wearing a "I'm Troy Nunes" sign, but I'm not liking where they are going with this Beating Cal was fun!??!?! I swear they are the worst Cal fans ever! I guess that would explain why they purport to run a Syracuse fan blog. Much of their story continues not to check out, so let's keep an eye on them.
But don't worry, t's OK, because our own newspaperman, Jeff Farudo, can put things into better perspective:
– Jerome Randle scored 25 points and was 5-for-9 from 3-point range. The rest of the team was 1-for-11 from beyond the arc, including 0-for-7 by Patrick Christopher, whom Monty defended, saying the Bears didn’t allow him to find any offensive rhythm. Christopher wound up with 12 points, six of them in the final 5 minutes, long afer the outcome was settled.
But hope spring eternal. Not only do we have the Game Of Moderate Proportions tomorrow, today we have a chance to redeem ourselves. Today we face off against a dangerous Ohio State team looking for its own redemption. Their completely unTroy Nunes-related SBN Brethren We Will Always Have Tempe had this to say about their loss to UNC:
Ohio State paid for its lack of bigs tonight. The moment Lauderdale got in trouble, Madsen simply couldn't keep up. I didn't expect him too, I guess, but it just helps to reaffirm the fact that this team will struggle mightily against good inside teams.
Firstly, I can't even begin to imagine what We Will Always Have Tempe even means. Second, lack of bigs you say? Sounds like we got a puncher's chance! Farudo has his OSU preview here. Let's keep Oregon State as the only OSU we lose to on a consistent basis! Game starts at 2 PM PST on ESPN2. GO BEARS!
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radio online?
Anyone know how to pick up the radio feed for this game via the webs?
you could watch on espn360.com if you want?
still want radio instead of that?
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 1:58 PM PST up reply actions
well… not quite worst…yet.. in the 200s according to kenpom
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions
Our 3 point defense leaves something to be desired.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 2:11 PM PST reply actions
Also, Diebler will shoot over a jumping Randle any day
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:13 PM PST up reply actions
Madison Square Garden is more empty than a Knicks game.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 2:16 PM PST reply actions
It is a 5 o’clock start. It will fill up as the game goes on.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 2:17 PM PST up reply actions
You’d think a guy with ~45 years of coaching/basketball experience would be horrible!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions
I figured he’d either
a) not have the personality/patience for the booth
or
b) too damned smart to communicate ideas in a short period of time on a broadcast
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Really, I always thought he was a lock to be a fantastic broadcast guy.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 2:21 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, he’s good. matt millen is surprisingly tolerable too…
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:22 PM PST up reply actions
I agree, I think he could be the analyst for junior high games and still be great – he just seems to want to help people understand the game so that it is played the right way.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 2:25 PM PST up reply actions
In terms of broadcasting, he’s better than most.
In terms of person, meh.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
You are missing the coaching aspect, which he is quite good.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Well, that was a given… the results speak for themselves
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:26 PM PST up reply actions
So you’re one of those anti-choking your own players type of guy, huh?
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People make mistakes. And Knight is unquestionably a flawed figure. But the vast majority of his players love him like a father. He loves basketball and he can communicate that. And, he is a winner.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Wow
Then I must be the only person who doesn’t like him as a broadcaster ;-)
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
How can you not love him?
He epitomizes “Get off my lawn, kid”
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:29 PM PST up reply actions
Ohio State 18 Cal 12, about 11 minutes left.
I’m guessing Monty’s preaching “help defense” until the Kansas game.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 2:19 PM PST reply actions
This assumes same athleticism a’course
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:24 PM PST up reply actions
I dunno… passed by him going to class a few years ago. I thought 6’6" may have been generous.
Who do you think’s taller, Powe or Boykin?
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:27 PM PST up reply actions
Good question, i would say they are roughly the same height.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Powe was measured at 6’6 before the draft
everyone’s height is inflated though, so comparing team’s heights is still fine
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:31 PM PST up reply actions
no, it was 18-16 when he was fouled driving
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:30 PM PST up reply actions
Too many times one of our guys has penetrated the zone and tried to force up a bad shot instead of looking for the open man
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Our slashers don’t really have good finishing moves.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 2:28 PM PST up reply actions
Was it behind half court?
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:32 PM PST up reply actions
man we're going to see a lot of zone this year
if we struggle this much against it
wow we suck against the zone
OMFDKLJF hit the high post. its not that hard.
It makes no sense, but clearly Seeley isn’t as improved as everyone said.
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I think part of it may be a result of Seeley’s defensive struggles.
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True, but he isn’t exactly the only one struggling on D.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
Not that ranking matter, but a loss here probably means Cal is out of the Top 25 right?
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I still think they will be ranked. Losses to good teams don’t tend to drop you much. The Robertson injury actually is more likely to hurt our ranking.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
prob…
though we’ll always have the theo+kamp excuse for these games (which i think is valid)
games not over
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:39 PM PST up reply actions
There have to better offensive sets we can run against the 2-3 zone than having Christopher and Randle play hot potato for 30 seconds.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 2:37 PM PST reply actions
I’m missing porn for this?
The compensation provided under [Jeff Tedford's] contract is funded exclusively from athletic department revenues and private fundraising and no State or general campus funds are used in this arrangement.
Well…you can do both of those at once…just saying…
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 2:38 PM PST up reply actions
I’m missing the health care debate for this?
by BlackandOldGold on Nov 20, 2009 2:38 PM PST reply actions
we need to get boykin at the high post.
sanders-frison on the opposite low block, and have the wings flash down to the corner when high post catches it. high post turns and has 3 options.
Yeah, I would hate to think about how we would have done in these two games if Randle had an off-night in either of these games.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 2:42 PM PST up reply actions
OMFG HOW CAN WE NOT HANLDE ANY PRESSURE
i swear my hs team would’ve been better prepared for this press and the zone
Yeugh, Amoke...
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 2:47 PM PST reply actions
Officiating hasn’t been very consistent, but Cal’s performance has not been adequate whatsoever.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Its: poor shooting, poor officiating, poor passing, and bad breaks….there were a half dozen or so shots that rattled in and out for us, that rattled in and in for them.
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by dballisloose on Nov 20, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
That is far – obviously the officiating has had nothing to do with our performances.
But to bring four top ranked teams together and have officiating this bad is just depressing.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 2:50 PM PST up reply actions
Radio has halftime analysis by Counting Crows guy...
Easy win for Cal tomorrow, Stanford is always going to be Stanford, ’ROUND HEEEEEEEEERE!!!!
Today's the day the teddy bears have their picnic.
True supporter.
Compare to Tiger Woods.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:58 PM PST up reply actions
and i know i know… nowhere near same level of celebrity
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
Tiger epitomizes the typical Furd fan actually…
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
nice. also true.
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by dballisloose on Nov 20, 2009 2:59 PM PST up reply actions
I challenge other schools to have a more random celebrity fan.
I love it. I bet he reads CGB too.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 3:01 PM PST up reply actions
I do….I mean, he probably does.
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by dballisloose on Nov 20, 2009 3:03 PM PST up reply actions
Randle’s got range…..Ohio State doesn’t need range when they can pass it into an unguarded Lauderdale….and then Lauderdale blocks his 5th shot
The compensation provided under [Jeff Tedford's] contract is funded exclusively from athletic department revenues and private fundraising and no State or general campus funds are used in this arrangement.
Monty: “I’m surprised they came out in a zone.”
Really Coach?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:08 PM PST reply actions
More than embarrassing. Just embarrassing getting routed two games in a row.
by CaliforniaBone on Nov 20, 2009 3:13 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t want to ehar the injury excuse. or that it helps our RPI. Or that playing tough opponents will help. These are seniors, they should be prepared already. And, Monty should know that teams are going to use zone and perhaps have a clue how to attack it.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
This is why we drink
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
by oskisunbear on Nov 20, 2009 3:13 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Nice run
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:18 PM PST reply actions
are the strikes / protests getting covered anywhere?
dailycal is not working for me
Perspective
Once again, we get exposed as overrated. No one pays attention to us and we can focus on the basics without hoopla. Teams won’t be gunning for us.
I have faith in Monty come Pac-10 time
I sorta hate this, oh, it’s better we got beat cause there won’t be as much pressure. That is absolutely not the attitude of a team that wants to win a lot of games.
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Agreed
But has Cal EVER lived up to preseason hype? Maybe 2004 football, but even in 1994 with Kidd and Murray we still finished below predictions.
hype was never justified, to be honest
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 3:22 PM PST up reply actions
Well, return 4 seniors, a couple all-conference players while the rest of the conference gets worse, I think it is pretty reasonable to expect them to win a bunch of games.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Push the ball off of defensive rebounds.
Cut to the damn basket.
Play with defensive intensity.
Profit.
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FUCK he travelled before that foul.
lskdfjklsjf
17-2 run
Buckeyes fell asleep…let’s see how they respond.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:26 PM PST reply actions
i was Zing through the DBD down 20, and all of a sudden, it’s 9
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 3:29 PM PST up reply actions
if a team got a draw like arizona did last year, his comment is laughable
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
Why the hell do you put Nikola in the game
aaaaaaaaaagggggggghhhh
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:31 PM PST reply actions
Jorge’s 4th foul might end up being our doom.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:32 PM PST up reply actions
is it bugging anyone else
how much bob knight talks about our opponents and how little he talks about us?
He’s doing fine I think. Very little bias from what I can detect.
by CaliforniaBone on Nov 20, 2009 3:35 PM PST up reply actions
Nikola’s killing me.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:35 PM PST reply actions
He’s taking a Serbian spear and launching it straight into my body.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:37 PM PST up reply actions
Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiicola
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 3:36 PM PST up reply actions
The defense on that pull up jumper was embarrassing for the poor guy.
On the other hand, he’s a key part in keeping our tradition of sad white guys going. The torch of Pribble/Verneisel must be passed!
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Do we count European guys as white? I think he’s more under the category of Euros who don’t play defense.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Sadly, I don’t think Alex Rossi will conform to such standards.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 3:38 PM PST up reply actions
Like the second half effort, but there's no way that the
Bears win without playing aggressively and that’s hard when you’re already giving teams free throws.
amoke is playing well on that baseline
the last few possessions
If an Amoke post up is our offensive possession we’re screwed
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Big swing there
Could’ve been a 7 point game.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:42 PM PST reply actions
god these ticky-tack fouls
are gonna bury us.
I think these refs need to be scrutinized.
by CaliforniaBone on Nov 20, 2009 3:45 PM PST up reply actions
Nikola for five minutes
Awesome.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:46 PM PST reply actions
That would come off as petty, and is probably irrelevant because I think they try to change up the teams (and perhaps the refs too)
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Well, I don’t think a public boycott is what he was thinking of, more like not participating.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Somehow, I don’t think the tournament organizers will care.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
nope… offensive foul, and hurt
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
Even Knight is saying it couldve gone either way.
by CaliforniaBone on Nov 20, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
So many fouls called by the ref farthest from the play – just weird.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 3:48 PM PST up reply actions
fuck monty should just get t'd up again
this is an absolute joke
lol nikola sucks
i’ve played him in pickup a few time. i’ve outscored and outplayed him every time
you’re not giving me a lot of confidence.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 3:52 PM PST up reply actions
it went from -100 confidence points to -10000000000000 points if a CGB poster can consistently outplay him.
i once blocked the shit out of vierniesel though, so who knows
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 3:54 PM PST up reply actions
Haha I also outplayed PC in a game (outscored him 7-3 and won) AND I pinned him on a layup. Then he dunked on me :(
I also beat Randle at horse…probably my best accomplishment lol
I love how that Turner reel is just him owning Nikola.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:54 PM PST reply actions
aslkdfjdskaf in and out
that would’ve been HUGE
If Nikola can foul out we might have a chance!
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
he can’t make a fucking shot either
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by dballisloose on Nov 20, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Nikola is considered to be one of our better defenders. Randle can’t guard Turner, can he?
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 3:57 PM PST up reply actions
not athletic enough
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by dballisloose on Nov 20, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
Put Christopher on him I guess.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:58 PM PST up reply actions
I think it is tough, because we need Christopher closer to the basket to help out with defensive rebounding.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
HOW WAS THAT A FOUL?
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
Oops, we brushed a guy. Better blow that whistle, it was getting rusty
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That was a handcheck.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 3:59 PM PST up reply actions
Sigh. Fail.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 4:01 PM PST up reply actions
So who runs a zone in the pac-10 other than OSU? I think I remember ASU and Arizona running zone, but it was a crappy zone and Jerome destroyed them.
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and we killed ourselves in at least one of the OSU game, missing a gillion open shots.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:02 PM PST up reply actions
what i’m saying is that Oregon State’s zone is nowhere near as imposing as the ones we saw in NYC
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
The difference is that no one in the Pac-10 has the athleticism of Syracuse or OSU in the Pac-10. With the way we shoot, we should dominate zones (especially with Robertson back). It isn’t something to worry about in my opinion.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 4:03 PM PST up reply actions
it is come tourney time
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
cross your fingers for a good draw and good shooting
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, draw matters – there will be top teams we can handle. And with a good shooting day, we really can beat anyone.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
You are probably right on the athleticism point. Though, I am really afraid of Kansas right now.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
hey, we’ll be a big underdog. everyone will expect a blowout. we’ll either meet or exceed expectations.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:04 PM PST up reply actions
Kansas and Aldrich will destroy us
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
you overestimate the consistency of college players. every team can have an off night. if they do, we can have a good showing.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
I was always pretty worried about Kansas – you know, with them being the No. 1 team in the nation, and the game being on the road.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 4:05 PM PST up reply actions
Agreed. Everybody always talks about how Theo is our ‘glue’ guy. Now, that’s hard to quantify, but the last two games probably gave as good an example as you can ever get. I feel like Cal doesn’t get blown out against almost any team with Theo around.
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Yeah, without Robertson we really only can stretch the floor on one-side. With Randle, PChris, and Robertson out there, it is really hard to play zone (imagine how many open shots Robertson could have had in the last few games.) He also is a better passer than our other players. If Jorge can hit the corner three, and Robertson is back, we will be tough to zone.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 4:07 PM PST up reply actions
Amoke played well down the stretch. Promising.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 4:02 PM PST reply actions
If California is to make noise in the Pac-10 season
Their big men have to step up on the rebounds, move their feet, and not pick up cheap fouls. Also, the guards need to help out rotating on defense.
I think Boykin is the most overrated player on the team. Yes, he’s a hustle player but besides that what else does he give he does not have a consistent jump shot, he picks up cheap fouls, and is not a good ball handler!
Boykin is the most underrated on this team. Your comment just shows how little you know. Well, that, and all your other comments.
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Yeah because an 8 point 5 rebound guy
should be underrated. His version of defense is to put his hands up and let a guy run into him. There’s a reason why he left Duke, he stunk he would have never made it off the bench except for blowouts!
You do realize that Boykin has been Cal’s most consistent performer before today?
Let’s just cherry pick one game and then assume that that game = all games! WOO ANALYSIS
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I got it!
Rocky is really every ESPN Analyst!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
To be overrated, people kind of have to be talking about you…I don’t recall the Jamal Boykin fanclub being that huge.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 4:08 PM PST up reply actions
Oh and on any other team
He’d be coming off the bench as a energy guy, he would not be starting. Yet, since the Bears have a bunch of nobodies in terms of big men, Boykin has to start by default.
Cal again
Beaten inside, that’s why. California took too many jumpers from what I saw. Ohio State kept them out of the paint.
Well, we don’t have very many inside players. We are going to live and die with the jump shot
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, it’s not hard to state the obvious.
Just to let you know.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
Too many jumpers?
We’re a jump shooting team. Even with Robertson back. Especially when Robertson comes back. Do you not realize the make-up of this team?
FOOD NETWORK!!!!
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 4:09 PM PST up reply actions
what, what? what did lavin say?
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, that (1) Cal sucks (2) Washington is now the Pac-10 favorite (3) No recognition of Theo meaning anything (4) No reference to the awesome adjustments late in the game.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 4:11 PM PST up reply actions
See, this kinda shit is what i was afraid of after having lost these two games.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Fortunately, in hoops it doesn’t matter what people ’Think" just how you perform on the court.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 20, 2009 4:13 PM PST up reply actions
He has no idea what he’s talking about. “Theo’s out, but Cal has trouble playing the zone.” Not having Theo is a reason we had trouble with the zone.
This guy is just playing up the drama.
by CaliforniaBone on Nov 20, 2009 4:10 PM PST up reply actions
Anybody else have to laugh when
Bob Knight had stated that Patrick Christopher should have been called for an offensive foul on his layup? In actuality the man who was on him was underneath the basket trying to sell a charge. Last time I checked wasn’t the new rule it’s an automatic blocking foul if a player is in that circle? So in actuality again we get a non call which should have been a three point play opportunity.
There is
no circle in NCAA rules. So your checking is wrong – NCAA refs are supposed to call an imaginary circle.
Well it's the imaginary
but still the Ohio State player was underneath the basket which would have been in the imaginary circle.
Questions
Love this blog. You guys do great work.
FSU plays OSU soon and I’d like to get your thoughts on some stuff.
How banged up are you guys?
Do you believe you are the Pac10 favorites? Is this because you are really good, because the Pac10 is down, or some combination thereof?
I missed the game, so…
Their 6’7" point guard, the real deal? How is your backcourt defensively? Good size? What defense did you play?
Thanks and please cover against Stanford this weekend.
Really banged up. Theo Robertson and Harper Kamp mean a lot.
We have a team that could win the Pac-10 because of our experience and guard play, our downside is no interior. The Pac-10 is down for sure. Harden, Gibson, Pendergraph, Collison, Holliday, Brockman, Hill…. all drafted, all getting playing time.
Turner is freaking legit. He just needs to play a little smarter.
The furd is getting pwned please spell it right.
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
How banged up are you guys?
Two of our ‘glue’ guys are out, which hurts us because we’re not very deep. A lot of minutes today had to be covered by players who are either not talented enough or not ready.
Do you believe you are the Pac10 favorites? Is this because you are really good, because the Pac10 is down, or some combination thereof?
If I had to guess around here it’s 50/50 between us and Washington, but mostly cause the Pac-10 is down. This is not a team that would be favored to win the Pac-10 any other year.
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quickly
Really banged up… On a scale of importance, our #2 and #5 guys are out. (both in the Top 3 of our defenders)
No. We’re only the media favorites because they picked the team that was successful with a new coach a year ago + all key players returning. The Pac-10 is very down from the last few years.
He is the real deal but can try to do too much with it and force things. Our backcourt is both small and depleted in terms of defense. I remember that you guys have a lot of size, which will definitely be good for a slow shooter like Diebler.
It will be our pleasure.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:17 PM PST up reply actions
We're
missing our 3rd best player – who is also our best 2-way player and we’re really a jump shooting team, so he helps spread the floor. We’re not very deep and missing 2 of our top 7 players doesn’t help when our margin of “goodness” is thin already.
Pac-10 is WAY down.
We played man all the way – but we don’t have the horses to keep throwing bodies after him (especially with – well, let’s just say we weren’t adjusted to the ref style of calling this game) we have maybe 2 defenders that could give him trouble, one was out the other fouled out.
Thanks for the responses
FSU is the biggest team in the country, and extremely athletic. We’re really slashers and bruisers who play great defense. Not much in the way of jump shooting so far but not as bad as I expected either.
Oh, and you’re welcome for us stealing Michael Snaer from UCLA: http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Michael-Snaer-67905http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/basketball/recruiting/player-Michael-Snaer-67905that kid is a stud.
Good luck to you this year!
Good luck to you guys. Sounds like your team will match up very well against OSU imo
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:29 PM PST up reply actions
Oh, also. I got to see you guys when you played us in Las Vegas last year, and you looked really good. Douglas was legit, though he’s gone now.
Good luck in the ACC.
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
Thanks, you as well.
This is one of our basketball guy’s take on our team:
- Alabi (7’2" Rs.So Center): Lock for NBA lottery this season, barring injury.
- Singleton (6’8" Small forward): Likely lottery pick if stays through 2010-11 season and continues to develop, based on potential/athleticism alone. Vastly superior version of Corey Brewer.
- Gibson (power forward): 6’11 with rare range + athleticism, not to mention new-found defensive prowess (6 blocks and stealing from guards?). Again, lottery written all over him.
- Snaer (6’4" guard, linked above): Very early in career, but seemingly has more than enough tools + attitude to warrant lottery pick. Might have been a high school first rounder without rule changes.
I don’t know if we get 4 lottery picks out of this group, but I’d be very surprised if 3 don’t end up in the lottery.
You lucky, lucky bastards.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:32 PM PST up reply actions
Also, Snaer was on our campus a few times last year. We never really had a shot, but it was fun dreaming.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:33 PM PST up reply actions
Leon Powe?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Of Celtics-Lakers NBA Finals Game #2 fame.
Unfortunately, knee injuries will prevent him from getting paid much more. He outplayed Big Baby all the time in Boston
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions
It all comes down to this:
1. UGA and Alabama and South Carolina are poor programs (surrounding programs who should poach from Atlanta).
2. UNC, Duke, and Ga Tech can’t get a lot of these kids in academically.
3. Hip black coach who looks like the guy from the wire recruiting in inner-city Atlanta.
Yeah, I’ve actually been really rooting for FSU in ACC play these past few years. Gotten to see quite a few exciting games with top notch athletes.
and Al Thornton!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:40 PM PST up reply actions
It could have been a blowout...
But it wasn’t. It really did show that we do play hard, and that we won’t go away. Still, we are living and dying by the perimeter shot. It’s what we all know to be true. Lack of an interior game won’t win games.
It’s easy to forget what Theo means to this team because he isn’t showy like Jerome and Patrick. He is a great defender, another option behind the line, and, though undersized, a guy that can play down low as well.
76-70 is awesome when you remember we were down 52-28. Not our best showing, but hey, really, there is a silver lining.
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
don’t be a downer, dude. unnecessary.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 20, 2009 4:21 PM PST up reply actions
I know it doesn't
But we are overrated. No way are we the #12 team in the country
In other words, Go Bears!
Who cares. Perception means nothing in college hoops.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 4:39 PM PST up reply actions
FLAGGED.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 4:37 PM PST up reply actions
Thoughts
This mini-tourney was about playing with teams in the national elite. We all were hoping that Cal could become one of those teams this year, even though most of us were not that optimistic. Cal showed that we’re not an elite team, at least not yet. I’m not giving up on the possibility that we can be elite, even though I don’t think it’s very likely.
I’m pleased to see that the team didn’t give up against OSU and almost came back. Hopefully Theo is just as important as these games seemed to indicate.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 20, 2009 4:38 PM PST reply actions
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