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Pac-10 Bowl Eligibility Update - Week 9

The Pac-10 is a big mess, especially in the middle.  After nine weeks of play, nine of the ten teams still have shot at reaching the magical six-win plateau and making a bowl game.  While most will focus on the race for the Pac-10 title and the Rose Bowl berth that goes along with it, I thought it might be more interesting to look at all the other mediocre teams in the middle of the Pac.  The stakes may not be as grand, but for coaches whose job security may swing one way or the other depending on if they can garner a bowl bid, the struggles in the middle are no less important.

To help with this analysis, I went through the remaining games and made a few simplifying assumptions. First, that WSU loses out. Not an unlikely scenario. Then, USC and Oregon both win out. I could certainly see either or both of those teams losing, especially on the road, but let’s make this simple (and more difficult on the remaining teams).

The other seven Pac-10 teams are more difficult to sort out. It seems as though Arizona, Cal, and Oregon State have begun separating themselves from the other four, and my guess is that those four finish 3-4-5 in the conference in some order. Cal has already reached bowl eligibility, while the other two already have five wins with Washington State still left on the schedule. The other four (Stanford, UCLA, Arizona State and Washington) all have bowl-eligibility odds that stretch from long to longer. I think one of them gets to six wins, but zero teams getting there seems more likely than two. Here’s what’s left (records listed assume a W vs. WSU, L vs. USC/Oregon), in order of likeliness of bowl eligibility:

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 • Cal – 6-2, with home games vs. Arizona and OSU, road games @ Stanford and UW. Cal is now just playing for bowl positioning, with an outside shot at 10 wins and a really nice season.  Lots of games that should be close, with the toughest remaining opponents at home. They should do no worse than a split, and could win all four.
 • Oregon State – 6-4, with home game vs. UW, road game @ Cal. The Beavs just need to beat Wazzu to get to six wins.  Even if they can't do that, they should be favored to beat UW at home.
 • Arizona – 6-4, with road games @ Cal and ASU. The Wildcats can get to 6 wins just by beating Wazzu. Fail to do so, however, and they then need either beat Oregon at home or Cal, ASU, or USC on the road. Not an easy closing slate.
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 • Stanford – 5-5, with home games vs. Cal and Notre Dame. Toss in a home game vs. Oregon and a visit to USC (their only remaining road game), and that’s a brutal closing slate. Lots of home cooking, but Stanford might not be favored in any of these games.
 • UCLA – 4-6, with home games vs. UW and ASU. Unless they can upset USC, the Bruins' only shot at the postseason is to beat Washington and Arizona State at home, then WSU in Pullman. After an 0-5 start in Pac-10 play, the Bruins need a win in the worst way.  Their next three games are probably the easiest conference games on the schedule, but there is no longer any room for error.
 • Arizona State – 4-6, with home game vs. Arizona, road game @ UCLA. I could see the Sun Devils winning both remaining toss-ups, but I could also see them losing them both. If they want to get to a bowl, however, they need to either win both, or somehow upset either USC or Oregon.
 • Washington – 4-5, with a home game vs. Cal, road games @ UCLA and OSU. Pulling the upset over USC was huge for the Huskies, but unless the Huskies can learn to win on the road, it won't be enough to extend their season past final exams. And hosting Cal at the end of the season won’t be easy, either.

If all these teams listed can just hold serve at home, the Pac-10 will get seven teams to six wins and bowl eligibility. However, both Stanford and UCLA are still on extremely iffy ground, even at home. I’ll split the difference and say six Pac-10 teams get to six wins.

Critical Game this week:

Washington @ UCLA.  Both these teams badly need a win if they hope to reach a bowl, and the winner is far from assured of getting there.  The loser, however, can pretty much start planning its winter break vacation.  A UCLA loss would mean they would start the conference 0-6, 3-6 overall, and have to sweep @WSU, ASU, and @USC to get to six wins -- not going to happen.  A Washington loss leaves the Huskies themselves at 3-6, with games @ Oregon State, vs. Washington State, and vs. California to close the season -- can you see the Huskies winning all three?  This is pretty much a bowl contention elimination game.

Other matchups:

Oregon @ Stanford.  While the Ducks try to avoid a road letdown after a HUGE victory at home, Stanford takes the first of four cracks at the magical six win plateau.  They sit at 5-3 right now, but face Oregon, @USC, Cal and Notre Dame to close the season.  All four of those teams are currently ranked.

Washington State @ Arizona.  The Wildcats should have no trouble securing their sixth win of the season, which is good, because the closing slate - @Cal, Oregon, @ASU, @USC - is about as tough as it comes.  Still the Wildcats only have one conference loss, and as they have yet to play Oregon, they are the other team besides the Ducks who still controls their own Rose Bowl destiny.

Oregon State @ California.  The Bears are already at six wins, while the Beavers are at five with a game vs. Wazzu left to play.  Neither team looks like a Rose Bowl contender, so this game has mostly bowl placement implications.  The winner might have a shot at the Holiday Bowl, while the loser looks like they're Las Vegas Bowl-bound, at best.

USC @ Arizona State.  The Trojans will bounce back from their loss in Eugene, I'm almost certain of it.  I can't recall the last time USC lost back-to-back games.  Then again, I can't recall the last time USC lost by more than three touchdowns.  ASU could really, really use this win, but I just don't see it happening.

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“Washington – 4-5, with a home game vs. Cal, road games @ UCLA and OSU. Pulling the upset over USC was huge for the Huskies, but unless the Huskies can do the same vs. hated Oregon this Saturday,”

Washington lost badly to Oregon 43-19 on Oct 24. To get to six wins they’ll need to beat either OSU and UCLA on the road or one of those and Cal at home.

by tmoran3020 on Nov 2, 2009 2:40 PM PST reply actions  

ugh, yep, not sure what happened there. i think that sentence is from when i originally compiled this list, and i simply missed updating that one. thanks.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 2, 2009 2:47 PM PST up reply actions  

Stanford has to be favored to reach a bowl game

Even if you pessimistically treat the USC game as an autoloss and give them only a 25% chance of winning each of the other three (surely an understatement of their actual chances), the odds of them failing to make a bowl game are less than 50% (27/64).

UCLA has a decent shot, since they have a comically easy upcoming three weeks. Depends on how bad they really are, but I’d guess a little under 50-50.

ASU needs, as you said, to win two consecutive tossups or else beat one of the big boys and win a tossup as well, so probably about a 1 in 3 chance.

Washington is pretty much done at this point short of a miracle. Cal, OSU and Arizona are all locks.

I’d predict seven bowl teams. I think Stanford will do it, as I’d see them as on a third tier well above the bottom four, and it would require a pretty bad combination of results for none of the 3 fourth-tier teams to reach six wins.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Nov 2, 2009 3:00 PM PST reply actions  

re: the Furd, I’m pessimistically treating both the Oregon and @USC games as pretty much autolosses. It could happen, but I wouldn’t bet on it. I suppose the Cardinal might have better than even odds of splitting their two games with Cal and Notre Dame, which is why, of the four non-locks, I have them the highest. I don’t see a game left on their schedule that they should win, however.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 2, 2009 3:06 PM PST up reply actions  

In my mind, the game they are most likely to win is against us. This gives me a case of the sads.

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by TwistNHook on Nov 2, 2009 3:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Lets not even dismiss UW being a tough game. I would definitely not characterize UW as a lock as PT put it. Yikes! (Cal fan nervousness alert)

by YleeXOtee on Nov 2, 2009 3:18 PM PST up reply actions  

a)I was referring to games that Stanford is to play, which does not include UW.

b)I think PaulThomas might have been referring to UW as a lock to make a bowl game?

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by TwistNHook on Nov 2, 2009 3:23 PM PST up reply actions  

Really? That sentence is that confusing?

Huh. Would not have expected that.

To restate: Washington is on the ropes, while all of Cal, OSU and Arizona are virtually 100% certain to make bowl games.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Nov 2, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions  

Agreed, and I’m not sure what Twist found confusing.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 2, 2009 9:40 PM PST up reply actions  

Ylee confused me about the UW lock thing!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 2, 2009 9:52 PM PST up reply actions  

In my mind, they are equally likely to beat either Cal or Notre Dame. They will have extra incentive (desperation) if they are still at 5 wins heading into the ND game. And Notre Dame always seems to shit the bed and is poorly coached, despite the price tag. They played them quite well in South Bend last year.

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by Thoroughbred on Nov 2, 2009 4:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Rags, could you please just tell me which bowl game Cal is going to be in so I can make my reservations now?

by CalBear81 on Nov 2, 2009 4:37 PM PST reply actions  

El Paso is so lovely that time of year!

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by TwistNHook on Nov 2, 2009 5:07 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m going to start making some educated guesses next week. The Sun Bowl isn’t a bad bet right now, though.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 2, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions  

Will you be offering a money-back guarantee on my non-refundable airline tickets?

by CalBear81 on Nov 2, 2009 6:25 PM PST up reply actions  

I will not, though El Paso is the only possible location I wouldn’t advise driving to from the Bay Area.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 2, 2009 6:40 PM PST up reply actions  

I’m considering flying if we get into the Emerald Bowl.

When I went to the Citrus Bowl in 1991, I ended up going on the alumni association charter trip, after I discovered that finding a last-minute flight into Orlando during Christmas vacation was pretty much impossible — at any price. And driving to Florida wasn’t really an option. It was actually very nice to have tickets and transportation arranged for all the events. We even got to sit with Ben Lynch at the official luncheon. He was then in his redshirt year, and scared to death of having to make conversation with eight old alums. Nice kid. Had I known he would end up in the NFL, I would have gotten his autograph! But going to DisneyWorld during Christmas vacation is not recommended. I could have cheerfully killed the Disney marketing genius who came up with the idea of giving everyone 14-and-under a noisemaker upon entering the Magic Kingdom on New Years’ Eve day.

by CalBear81 on Nov 2, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions  

• Oregon State – 6-4, with home game vs. UW, road game @ Cal. The Beavs just need to beat Wazzu to get to six wins. Even if they can’t do that, they should be favored to beat UW at home.
 • Arizona – 6-4, with road games @ Cal and ASU. The Wildcats can get to 6 wins just by beating Wazzu. Fail to do so, however, and they then need either beat Oregon at home or Cal, ASU, or USC on the road. Not an easy closing slate.

Can you clarify this for me? It looks like both schools already have 6 wins.

by rurata on Nov 2, 2009 6:14 PM PST reply actions  

I think his “6-4” records for these teams is hypothetical, assuming that they will necessarily beat Washington State and lose to USC and Oregon. In fact, both teams presently have only 5 wins, but it is assumed they will both pick up a sixth win against Washington State.

by CalBear81 on Nov 2, 2009 6:18 PM PST up reply actions  

yes, this is correct.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Nov 2, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions  

Interesing look at the bowl picture.

Lets hope UW is not playing for bowl eligibility on 12/5. It would be great if Cal could seal a losing season for Stanford.

by MBT91_78 on Nov 2, 2009 9:12 PM PST reply actions  

I think the best case scenario for the conference is that UCLA keeps losing, dropping games to Washington and ASU

Then ASU beats Arizona while Washington beats OSU, and Cal, Oregon and USC win out. Stanford beats Notre Dame to give the league 8 bowl teams and likely 2 BCS teams, with Cal going to the Holliday Bowl. The 5 6-6 teams then get to prove that strength of schedule is actually something that someone, you know, ought to pay some attention to by thrashing the standard gaggle of Big 10 and ACC dreck.

7 is a lot more likely than 8 though.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Nov 2, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions  

go bears! beat osu!

That’s my motto this week. You guys seem to be on the rebound, and it looks doable
against a team that only scored 2 tds at home vs. a ucla team winless in conference.
We’ll take care of stanford this saturday.

by ochocokid on Nov 2, 2009 10:35 PM PST reply actions  

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