Syracuse 9500, Cal 73: Bears Faceplant on the Road
by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 6:40 PM PST
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We can talk about officiating all we want, but this one came down to defense.The Bears did not rotate to their men, did not help well, did not play great off the ball, while Syracuse did, in almost every measure. Cal's offense looked sloptastic, mostly because of the zone, partly because everyone seemed to throw their passes off-target and get into set shots, and more because the Orangemen athletes were just better.
On almost every level, the Orangemen were the better team. Hopefully this trend for every Cal loss this season ends soon.
- It's hard to say how much of an effect Theo would've had in this game. It would've been far more competitive than it actually was.
- Jerome Randle and the rest of his starting lineup is starting to remind me a little too much of Jahvid Best and the offensive line. Hopefully Randle doesn't start racking up the minutes as the season goes on.
- Jamal Boykin again doing all the little underrated things. But other than Boykin and Randle, rest of team shot 30 percent. Yuck.
- Every Orangeman shot over 50 percent. Double yuck.
- Wesley Johnson looks like a pro.
- We could've used Kamp on Onuaku. Just saying.
- Patrick Christopher must've catched a late flight, because he wasn't really showing anything until the final minutes. It's becoming hard to discern if he really has any talents other than slashing and an occasional 3 point shot.
- Salvage a split tomorrow and it's still a good trip. Not many of us thought we'd go 2-0, so hopefully a good rebound tomorrow will put us back where we need to be.
This is your postgame thread. Feel free to watch the Ohio State-North Carolina game to see who we end up facing, or the Thursday Night game (Colorado 14 Oklahoma St. 10 right now), or whatever else catches your fancy this Thursday night.
nickle had a good postgame comment that I wanted to share here.
In the end, the result of this game doesn’t really matter (well not too much, it still sucks). Lavin and co. might be surprised at the result of this game but I don’t think any of us are. Biggest surprise is Theo being out at the last second, and along w/ Kamp’s injury, we didn’t have a chance from the start. If we get those two back it’s a completely different team.
Cal didn’t schedule these games primarily to build an impressive resume, although that woulda been a huge plus had we won today. But we got a real good look at the Syracuse zone and this experience will help tremendously when it counts most in the tournament (assuming we don’t pull an epic fail this season). Throw that in with the matchup tomorrow against either a very very experienced team or a very very athletic team and we’re getting a huge dose of what to expect from what will be our toughest competition from here on out.
Not a great outing by the bears, but I think it was fine. PC really needs to find a way to get his own shots though.
I think we’ll be fine. I hope…
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This game proved
what I’ve been saying for a long time. That we are going to get abused on the interior against top teams nationally. Boykin is great and under control, but he is only one guy and not even all that big. Randle shot well and was mighty impressive to me, however I would have liked to see him break down the zone. Only problem is that if he did there was nobody to pass to and finish. We didn’t have enough passes to the high post to break the zone. That’s a personnel and coaching problem. I thought guys should have “flashed” more.
PC…. what can I say…. I am SO sick of people talking about him being an NBA prospect. Yes, he can shoot and yes he can jump, but boy the boy cannot get past people – he doesn’t even try. What a disappointment for all the hype. Let’s just let him be what he is and stop hyping him.
The team looked really weak and overwhelmed. Let’s just also let them be what they are and stop hyping them.
And a reminder – we are going to get pounded next year when our 4 starters leave.
by concordtom on Nov 19, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
As I said below, I agree on the high post thoughts, that’s where you need to exploit the zone – I think it’s as much a personnel problem as anything, though . Theo might have been able to do it, but no one on the team is really a good fit for that role.
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Boykin can’t be taller than 6’5’’ huh?
Again, we had the same problems last year and managed. We just can’t afford these injuries because we need the great shooting in order to do so. The Pac-10 is really short on big athletes this year (and probably next year too)… this will hide some of our problems
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:50 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Also, is it really the Cal fans that are doing the hyping? It seems to be the media almost entirely. I feel we can be a top 25 team if things role our way, and we can get that compensation with great shooting in a down Pac-10. But #12 was always a stretch, and Braun didn’t exactly leave a lot in the cupboard in the way of big boys (though you can’t say he didn’t recruit some gems at 1, 2, and 3)
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:56 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In other words
I’ve never heard any actual Cal fans say that they feel this team was a surefire Top 15 one. We have weaknesses that can’t be fixed except for overcompensation with our outside shooters. Syracuse caught on early … get up on Randle 30 feet away from the basket
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Cal fans make way too much about hype. These media idiots know nothing. Tedford had it right when he said not to pay attention to preseason rankings. Just enjoy the season divorced from the hype.
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by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 7:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we would be top 15, mostly because our record will be inflated due to the shithole that is the Pac-10 this season.
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 8:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Tough OOC will diminish that some.
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think we will be knocked for this loss and the 45 point loss to Kansas that is coming (just bend over now, folks) as the media will say that we haven’t beaten anyone out of conference. And we won’t really have a comeback to that.
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 8:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
45 POINTS???
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by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 8:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That’s not what is actually going to happen due to such things as sportsmanship. But if Syracuse can beat us by 22…
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 8:31 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
45 points, nah
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
rollonubears uses hyperbole???? This is odd and unexpected!!!
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In reality I am expecting them to beat us by at least 20, maybe a late run making it closer but the outcome never being in doubt.
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for you input.
Theo Robertson disagrees.
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 8:33 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot about that. Yeah it will be a bit closer, but you bet your ass that Monty is waking up in the middle of the night in cold sweats muttering Cole.
I am very worried about that game. However, unlike concordtom, I am not freaking about the rest of the season. This will be a successful season. Something will have to go seriously wrong (I am thinking natural disaster) for it not to be. We are going to the NCAA tournament. We will get 20 wins, probably even 25. Cal basketball is back, and one game is not going to change that.
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 8:39 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus christ
First loss of the season and you’re already back here slagging the team again?
I’m not even going to get into the use of the term “boy” to refer to Christopher. Just go away. Seriously. Forever. You make threads unreadably tooth-grinding to read.
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by PaulThomas on Nov 20, 2009 9:15 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
alright, calm down
you two are some of our best bball commentators on the site. If you drive ConcordTom away, I’ll be stuck talking to Avinash by myself. Do you think I want that???
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by CBKWit on Nov 20, 2009 9:38 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry, but it's just driving me nuts
I mean, you know I’m not some kind of Nestor-like homer who demands kaotowing from anyone who wants to critique the team’s play. A bad game is a bad game, and a bad team is a bad team.
But this is like Eeyore decided to have a child with Oscar the Grouch and then the guy became a basketball critic.
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by PaulThomas on Nov 20, 2009 1:03 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s a bad matchup for the bears, they don’t have someone a big that can play the high post well, which is one of the biggest weaknesses in ’Cuse’s zone. You need a guy who can catch, make quick decisions, shoot the 15 footer, dribble it, or pass to exploit that middle space, and Cal doesn’t have one. I’m not overly concerned about the team after this game, I don’t think it really told us anything I didn’t know. Missing Theo hurt a lot, he’s one of those guys you don’t always notice his contributions but he’s doing a lot of little things that help the team in all aspects of the game.
What it comes down to is this is essentially the same team as last year. If you thought this team would be better than last year, I just don’t think it is. It’s essentially the same team. They’ll struggle against more athletic teams like ‘Cuse, but there aren’t many of those out there, especially in the Pac-10. Overall, they should compete for the Pac-10 title, but it’ll be a tough road. They should be a 15-25 ranked team throughout the year.
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 6:48 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Unlike you...
I AM concerned b/c last year’s team lost in the first round of the NCAA’s. Doesn’t that speak to you?
I would have liked to see Monty have Boykin flash the free throw line all night and give him the green light to shoot every time. I would be a lot better than passing from the top to PC on the wing, and having PC simply pass it back to the top. That was real effective. I expect more out of a senior.
You’re right – this game showed us nothing we didn’t already know. Only what we hoped for…
by concordtom on Nov 19, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
two sides to that coin
They got to the NCAA with the same group, which… despite this game (eerily similar to Missouri last year)…I feel should be more cohesive this year. This assumes we get healthy at some point. There are no perfect teams in college basketball. Not many teams will have the athletes of a Syracuse or Kansas. And this is incredibliy apparent in the Pac-10. It looks like the worst Pac-10 I’ve seen in quite some time.
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Once again, TB, you make good points. The Pac10 is going to be very weak, and Cal will look good during the league.
Let’s see how Cal does against x tomorrow night and against Kansas. I think they will get killed in all 3 games. And then they probably won’t play another TOP team until the NCAA’s, perhaps in the 2nd round. And so everyone will say it was a great year. But, we’ll know the truth about this team. They will have done VERY well, but weren’t a GREAT team.
And then, next year, we get killed.
by concordtom on Nov 19, 2009 7:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
eh, who cares about the perception vs. reality this early in Monty’s tenure? I MUCH prefer rooting for a team of good guys I like (what we have now) over anything else. Not so concerned whether we’re great a year removed from a coaching change
Ohio State doesn’t look all there either. May not get killed tomorrow. And if we come away 1-1, that was what we expected, and the pundits can point to our two key injuries for excuses. I just want to make the tournament is all…. and see our guys have some fun
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I can't argue with that attitude!
Top notch, TB.
by concordtom on Nov 19, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just here to bring the positivity. There are a lot of question marks of course, and your frustrations with the team are completely reasonable. It’s frustrating, I know. It’s tough losing a game like that, without two key players, in such a big setting.
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:28 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think going for a Sweet 16 this year is a pretty fair expectation for this team. I’d call the season a success if we get there, a failure if we don’t get past the first round of the tournament, and an ok season if we get to the second round.
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 8:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh my god its been 3 fucking games!!!! Stop it right now. Get out of this football ‘every game counts’ mindset. Sit down. Have a nice glass of scotch. Everything will be just fine.
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 8:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Happens every single year at the start of basketball season. OMG – We lost the season is over!!!
You are wise beyond your years rollonubears.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think it is because Cal is still in football mode (where 5 losses is not a great season). It takes awhile for people to get readjusted to accepting losses. I think this will be a banner year for Cal basketball. I want to enjoy it, because this team will be gone next year (this has been the first class I have fully experienced). We should try to stay as positive as possible.
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
So….I’ve given my opinion on what a successful season would be. Curious what others think. We should be a lock for the tournament, if we miss it that’s an epic failure. So, how far should we expect and/or hope to go in the tournament? How far do we have to get for the season to not be a failure? Just wonder what your guys expectations are.
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree that Sweet 16 is my expectation. I disagree with some of what you said though. The season is not a failure if we only make it to the first round. Disappointment, maybe, but not a failure. It just ends up being a solid season (which is disappointing when this season could be special). Second round means that it was a good season. Sweet 16 is a great season. Anything beyond that is amazing.
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I think you’re setting your expectations too low. I expect big things out of Monty, he’s a great coach, this team is experienced and fairly talented…this should be a good season. Being a top 64 team is not good enough for this squad (barring major injuries or something).
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 9:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I am expecting Sweet 16, but a fluke in the first round wouldn’t nullify a good regular season.
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure we should expect a Sweet 16, I mean its not like you just mix in 1 coach add a few seniors, shake or stir, and you’re there….takes a lot. There are a lot of new faces around college basketball, and without a doubt some stud freshmen are gonna step up somewhere for some school. Too soon to set expectations.
But if you must….on how I would judge the season:
Great season: make the Sweet 16
Good season: make the 2nd round
Minimum: make the tournament
Epic fail: make the NIT tournament
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by dballisloose on Nov 19, 2009 9:29 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Sweet 16 isn’t that big of a step forward from last year. We should have a better seed going into the tournament, which means a more winnable first round game, so all we’re really talking about here is winning in the 2nd round…
by Missing Barry on Nov 20, 2009 7:53 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Epic fail is not making any tourny
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Nov 20, 2009 9:34 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It is highly highly unlikely that will happen, however.
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by rollonubears on Nov 21, 2009 11:45 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that rollonubears. I think our team is really susceptible to bad match-ups, so we could get knocked out early. I think as long as we are competitive for a pac-10 title, Monty is doing a hell of a lot, with not much to work with.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
See, I disagree we don’t have much to work with. We don’t have the talent to compete for a Final 4, I’m on board with that, but this is a team that should easily get into the tournament with a decent seed – losing to a double digit seed is not something that’s ok. If we lose in the 2nd round, as I said in my piece, I think that makes for an ok season, but this team has more talent than that.
by Missing Barry on Nov 20, 2009 7:51 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I have trouble defining the season based on the tourney. Since we’re not going to win the whole damn thing or even get to the final four, I’m much more interested in other things like:
Winning the Pac-10
Beating UCLA/Stanford twice each (please?)
Getting at least a split with udub
Creating a win streak in Tucson.
All of that is much more important to me than one game less or more in March.
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by norcalnick on Nov 19, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions 1 recs
Pac-10 and Pac-10 tournament are definitely good benchmarks to judge the season by, too. I personally don’t really care about the individual matchups with other Pac-10 teams, though…
by Missing Barry on Nov 20, 2009 7:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
We could get to the final 4. We nearly beat a ranked team last night without 2 of our 5 best players. Seems like people around here are scared of being nationally well thought of.
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by rollonubears on Nov 21, 2009 12:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It has nothing to do with the time of year
It just happens every time concordtom makes a comment.
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by PaulThomas on Nov 20, 2009 9:16 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously, I am actively digging the fact that Cal lost a game and it isn’t the end of the world. Football should go to a 25 game schedule pronto.
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by AERose on Nov 19, 2009 10:42 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know, I kind of like our football players alive at the end of the season.
by Kai on Nov 19, 2009 10:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
ah, what price glory…
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by AERose on Nov 19, 2009 11:15 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think people are missing a big part of PC’s game . . . defense. He is a good on the ball defender and actually hustles on that end, more than I can say for a number of Bears. Of course he is an incomplete offensive player, but I think the defensive element makes him a decent college player and at least gives him a shot at the Association.
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by BeastMode on Nov 19, 2009 6:52 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Not only would PC get killed at the next level, he won’t hardly even be invited. You gotta be REALLY special. I am not knocking PC for not being pro material. I am knocking the talk of him being a pro. Great guy. Don’t let my rant speak badly of the person.
by concordtom on Nov 19, 2009 7:04 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
My understanding is that PChris is pro material – he isn’t going to be a star, but athletic wingmen who can shoot always seem to make it in the league. For example – Malik Hairston is currently getting playing time for the Spurs.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
He’s got a lot of work to do to get there. Christopher isn’t as athletic as he seems, either – he’s a good jumper, but he’s not that long, and not that quick, laterally or in terms of being explosive with the ball. He’s going to have a hard time making it in the pros. I think concordtom’s assessment is pretty spot on, he’s a good player, he plays D and can shoot, but he struggles to create his own shot at the college level…that’s a pretty good indication that his pro prospects aren’t great. That said, Europe pays well too, so you don’t have to feel sorry for him or anything.
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, either way he will make a ton of money being a professional basketball player. And by no means do I think he is a lock to be an NBA player.
In the NBA, it isn’t really that necessary to be able to create your own shot – most players just have to be able to hit every open shot you get. Thing is – there are a lot more guys out their that can create a shot, than guys who can hit an open three.
I think that Christopher is a really good shooter, but doesn’t seem that exceptional because both Randle and Robertson are great as well. If you can shoot, and guard an NBA shooting guard, there is a spot for you on an NBA roster. There are a ton of guys who couldn’t create their own shot in the Pac-10 who are doing fine on NBA rosters – Afflalo, Hairston, Matt Barnes, etc.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 8:36 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not as much the skill of creating a shot itself that’s the problem – it’s that it’s an indication of a lot of skills in general. It reflects poorly on the players athleticism, on their ball handling, on their shooting (good shooters force the defense to play tighter making it easier to drive past the defender to create something)…I wouldn’t ever expect Christopher to be expected to create his own shot consistently in the NBA, it just raises red flags about his abilities beyond that for me.
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 8:46 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
21-10 Colorado! You heard it here!
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I like the fact that the Big 12 went from being hailed as possibly the best conference in the country to being almost unquestionably the worst BCS conference in just one year.
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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Nov 19, 2009 6:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Really? Worse than the ACC or the Big East?
I’m pretty sure Texas makes up for everyone else.
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by Rishi on Nov 19, 2009 7:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Not yet. Maybe level one in the coming year, but MBA is top priority.
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by Rishi on Nov 19, 2009 7:27 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No; have not taken any formal courses.
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by Rishi on Nov 19, 2009 9:05 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The Big East has Cincy and Pitt and West Virginia when West Virginia isn’t tripping over its own shoelaces. The ACC has Georgia Tech and a bunch of mediocre schools, which is the thing—the Big 12 doesn’t even have mediocre schools below Texas, they’re pretty much all terrible.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
by AERose on Nov 19, 2009 7:53 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
If the Big 12 North and ACC Atlantic just disappeared the world would be a better place.
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t disagree, but Texas started the year ranked higher than Cincy, so obviously, they’ll get the NC bid.
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by Rishi on Nov 19, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I know Colorado’s best player. They should be better than people expect. Played a lot of young kids last year.
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Who’s their best player? McKnight the WR?
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I thought we were talking basketball here, my bad.
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 8:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I thought you were predicting a 21-10 record for them, wasn’t sure why they were relevant, but that was the first thing that came to my mind.
by Missing Barry on Nov 19, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Haven’t been watching, but OSU is down 26-11 to UNC. OSU has lost a lot of their talent every year. This is looking up for the Bears.
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:05 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
OSU? Weren’t they returning 4 starters?
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by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 7:07 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
they lose their top big men, tho… which is obv cal’s weak point
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
so what will you say if UNC blows out OSU, and then OSU blows out Cal?
You know, we will be continuing this conversation in 24 hrs.
by concordtom on Nov 19, 2009 7:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not assuming we get blown out by Ohio State. It’s not like we lose every game… we beat a much better inside team in Washington last year twice. Ohio State’s primetime guy is a big SG
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:13 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I admit I’m very down now, b/c this was SO predictable. Recruiting. And I’m very bummed that Monty hasn’t been able to bring in a big guy. It was laughable when Bak came in and immediately made a turnover. We need multiple big guys in next year’s class and we got only one. What do you make of this, TB? You are a recruiting focused guy…
MSF could have also flashed and shot – but he was not “ready” to do so when he got there with the ball, though he did make some decent moves down lower.
by concordtom on Nov 19, 2009 7:20 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, we do have one more scholarship available. There just aren’t that many big people on the WC this year, it seems D=. I mean, we’re also only losing one ‘big’ in Boykin, so 1 or 2 was all that we were going to recruit. Obviously, Bak Bak needs coaching and lots of it, but he does have athleticism and size
I have a little more faith in the team that the lack of rhythm without Theo was, in part, due to deflation because of his loss (I feel he’s so consistent that his teammates rely on that) and because it’s tough to get a feel for a whole new lineup when a key component is out. Adjustments, adjustments.
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:26 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Mark Titus came back, so all is good.
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by rollonubears on Nov 19, 2009 8:21 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
FUCKING COLORADO
just stop sucking please! a team made up of entirely TwistNHook could beat these chumps
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:35 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
HOLY SHIT
LOCKRIDGE IS A FUCKING BULLETT!
Did anyone else see that KO return TD? That guy flewwwwww
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
Let’s see…BCS at large bids…there’s four of them right?
Florida/Alabama loser
TCU
Boise probably
Pac-10/Big 12/Big East runnerup?
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by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 7:53 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
it’ll be Cincy and Pitt if Pitt beats Cinci…
just ugh. Pac-10 deserves two bids this year, but won’t get them
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:55 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck forgot about Iowa.
Only way I can see a second Pac-10 team…
Oklahoma State loses
Iowa loses
Pitt loses
Boise loses
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by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
expansion…cough, cough
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Nov 19, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
videotapes… cough, cough
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
sweeney…cough, cough
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
by AERose on Nov 19, 2009 9:41 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
srsly
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Nov 19, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not sold on the idea of a second non AQ team, but we’ll see.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
by AERose on Nov 19, 2009 8:14 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, dumbass play by Oklahoma State. Pin Colorado with a punt there. You really think your defense can’t handle Colorado on a long 3.5 minute drive?
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:57 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
I guess, they could have so much faith in your defense that you think you’ll stop them from the 42
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 7:58 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well Colorado is just horrible enough not to capitalize
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
No teams good enough to really pull upsets against the best teams this year.
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by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, Oklahoma State is middling Pac-10 team. Let’s hope Oklahoma beats them, and we don’t have to see them again
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Well, I think I’m glad that I missed this game, from the sounds of it. Sucks that we missed Theo. I think it would be fair to say that he’s the 2nd most important player on our team. Beat OSU and we’ll be feeling good again. hell, I’ll take a competitive game at the least
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by norcalnick on Nov 19, 2009 8:12 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
WHOA, how'd it become UNC 73 Ohio State 68?
36 seconds left.
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by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 8:30 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
74-68
Damn.
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by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
74-70, Buckeyes nearly stole it!!
UNC to the line
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by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 8:32 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Ahh...oh well
Cal to play Buckeyes. AVENGE THE NIT!
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by Avinash on Nov 19, 2009 8:39 PM PST reply actions 0 recs
With our thin rotation and Theo being out, we didn’t stand a chance once Boykin head to the bench with 2 fouls early. SInce I don’t think the team’s morale is crushed by this defeat, it should be good experience for the Pac-10 season.
I see some publication calling Cal a “trendy pick for the Final Four”, I don’t know if anyone would really believe that. This team, if healthy, is very capable of winning the weak Pac-10 and maybe make it to the sweet 16 (both would be great boosts to the Cal basketball program). That goal is obviously still very much in tact despite the result today and tomorrow.
I never like Ohio State in any sports, so here is hope that we get to crush a red team tomorrow. GO BEARS!
by LEastCoastBears on Nov 20, 2009 1:06 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
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