Cal vs Syracuse 2nd Half Thread
by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 5:08 PM PST
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The horror; the horror...
No defense, bad passing, bad dribbling, bad shooting, bad refs...
Who wants to talk about the Big Game?
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The Big Game
It should be on a network other than Versus.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 19, 2009 5:10 PM PST reply actions
If Cal had beaten one good team this season
It’d be the ABC primetime telecast. Sigh.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 5:11 PM PST up reply actions
too bad it was decided after the oregon state game…
if it had been decided after the zona win, probably
if we still had best, definitely.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, Oregon-Arizona is still the big game regardless of what happened last week.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
I believe beating Arizona counts as a good win this season.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Too little too late. I believe we were stuck in the Versus slot before we played Zona.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
I actually don’t mind being on Versus. It is a national broadcast whereas ABC is split 50-50.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Versus
DirecTV people don’t get that game, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 19, 2009 5:16 PM PST up reply actions
i.e. every sports bar in America.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 5:17 PM PST up reply actions
We can still do this. We just need adjustments, luck, and more luck.
LET’S GO BEARS! (i’m over being negative… it just sucks… what’s wrong with all you old blues?)
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You seriously bummed me out with your negative juju.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 5:12 PM PST up reply actions
no more negativity. they showed a little bit at the half. cuse can get lazy because they think this game is in hand, but they haven’t seen us light it up from outside. stay strong, my friend
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Syracuse
I think they’re a bad match-up for us.
- This is a road game.
- Playing without Theo Robertson, arguably our best all-around player, is obviously tough.
- With Robertson out along with Harper Kamp, we’re playing without two of our top six players.
- Syracuse is really athletic when we’re, well, not that athletic. They’re so fast and we’re more methodical.
- Syracuse has length pretty much everywhere, while we’re on the small side with the exception of Max Zhang.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 19, 2009 5:12 PM PST reply actions
Hey guys look at me I'm RockyNumbers
Cal played really well that half. Not! (It’s funny because they didn’t play well in the first half!)
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Haha, we should just call him RockyNumbers from this point on.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 5:13 PM PST up reply actions
btw poor theo...he had hip surgery before right?
and now his foot, that really sucks.
All things considered…Not a bad first half.
-We tough ref adjustment – it seems to me Pac-10 refs call a lot more fouls for shooters. The block fouls have just seemed to be out of whack in favor of Syracuse. That could change in the second half.
- Robertson out with injury. I question whether he would make a huge difference – but you gotta prefer him to Bak/Knezevic/Smith
- We are in foul trouble – but they are a pretty bad foul shooting team. Assuming we don’t run out of bodies, this probably isn’t that bad.
- Virtual road game.
- I have a good amount of faith that Monty will make good adjustments in the second half. We will see..
We have been a much better team in the second half through the first two games (just flukey 3 pointers to close the score with murray st)
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
And with our shooting – we can close leads on occasion. I don’t have much hope, but a little hope.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 5:20 PM PST up reply actions
I'm here at the Garden
Sitting in the upper deck but center court. Pretty partisan syracuse crowd (surprise) but do have a smattering of cal fans around.
Refs have been terrible, but I think the strategy is pretty clear moving forward: feed the ball to Zhang all day, every play. It’s max zhang time.
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by bearswithfangs on Nov 19, 2009 5:14 PM PST via mobile reply actions
That is why you are in the upper deck, and not the coach.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 5:14 PM PST up reply actions
Seriously
Zhang is the worst player on the court, though, for real.
The Ultimate Opportunist
by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 19, 2009 5:15 PM PST up reply actions
The only way Cal is going to get Syracuse in foul trouble is by
attacking that zone and getting players to the rim.
Cuse is a terrible matchup for Cal with all those injuries.
"It ain't over till it's over." - Yogi Berra
yeah
and they’re hitting their threes…
::facepalm::
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 5:25 PM PST up reply actions
that’s all I care about
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 5:31 PM PST up reply actions
clearly..
We see what happens when you don’t try to pound the ball with Zhang. You take his sheer strength and ride that 17 percent free throw percentage.
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by bearswithfangs on Nov 19, 2009 5:33 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Oh and bombs away!
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by bearswithfangs on Nov 19, 2009 5:34 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
I think Lamond Murray still has eligibilty
by LeonPowe on Nov 19, 2009 5:35 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Brian Wethers?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 5:36 PM PST up reply actions
Amit Tamir?
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by bearswithfangs on Nov 19, 2009 5:40 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Alley-wtf?
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by bearswithfangs on Nov 19, 2009 5:44 PM PST via mobile up reply actions
Have you noticed that the refs outside the Pac 10 allow much more contact? I wonder if that puts our teams at a disadvantage? I remember Villanova just brutalizing people last year.
by BlackandOldGold on Nov 19, 2009 5:47 PM PST reply actions
The fans just clapped the syracuse team off the court
This sucks.
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by bearswithfangs on Nov 19, 2009 5:48 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Well, now we've just got to refocus
Salvage a split and it’s still a good trip, esp. with no Theo.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 5:50 PM PST reply actions
This is what I love about basketball – this loss sucks – but it in no way ruins the season. We can get so much better from here.
(By the way – Bob Knight is getting a little mad at these refs on our behalf. I like it.)
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 5:51 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t catch what he said. Can you repeat?
by CaliforniaBone on Nov 19, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
He got pissed at a charge call, and earlier in the game he got pissed when they were reviewing whether Randle had been foulded on a two or three and it was obviously a three.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 5:54 PM PST up reply actions
Cal woulda got beat calls or not, but the refs have been really really bad.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Well, those early fouls really hurt. We had to go to our freshmen… :/
by CaliforniaBone on Nov 19, 2009 5:59 PM PST up reply actions
We have other good non-conference games to salvage too
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 5:52 PM PST up reply actions
Yes, though the odds we “salvage” things against Kansas are low.
But we fortunately get to come back tomorrow against another ranked team. I can’t wait.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 5:55 PM PST up reply actions
I like our team at full health. I hope we can get there by that game.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 5:56 PM PST up reply actions
He wants to. If Harper Kamp was playing, Knight would be throwing chairs.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 5:53 PM PST up reply actions
Hey P-Chris. Nice to see you. Would’ve been nice to see you earlier.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 5:55 PM PST reply actions
There goes the hope of getting this to 10 and making the final score look respectable. It kinda looks like Cal is playing 5 on 6.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
They kind of are. Cal looks really small on that court, like a mid-major.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Really too bad we couldn’t get more than just Solomon in next year’s class.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
we have one more open schollie. possible big man
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions
Is anyone else a little impressed with Sanders-Frison as a passer. Seems like would could run the offense through him like we used to do through Kamp.
yeah, just need to keep out of foul trouble. the fouls he got tonight were ticky-tack tho
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 5:58 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, the foul thing is always tough for guys his size on the college-level. If these were Big East refs, I was surprised by the foul calls tonight.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
We lost by even worst to Missouri last year, truth be told. Granted, that game was on ESPNU, but they pulled together. Missouri had the size-speed advantage too
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ugh
We lost by even more*
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
or at least it was just as ugly, if not uglier
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:02 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, that’s the thing, being on ESPN2 at Madison Square Garden against Cuse. Getting trounced is fine, I just hate the context.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
I kind of wish we’d done a West Coast tourney. Like the one in Hawaii.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
I think context makes this better. Come tourney time it will be – “Cal lost big to Syracuse at MSG – understandable”
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 6:03 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think you’re 6-10 though… are you?
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
i’m just playing around. i understand the frustration
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:14 PM PST up reply actions
Well, you are missing Amoke. Also, next year’s class is going to play right away.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Yes, I know. Our class next year is awesome.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Bak’s got a lot of coaching in front of him. He has size though. I know, I know
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah, he does look athletic and a little more skill than than I expected. But he has looked a little lost out there thus far.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 6:12 PM PST up reply actions
hmm not fun to be here right now
I can’t believe I wore my good coat to come to this game. It had better not be raining later.
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by bearswithfangs on Nov 19, 2009 6:05 PM PST via mobile reply actions
Good job staying the whole way through.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 6:06 PM PST up reply actions
I was in NY last week. The rain sure was annoying. But probably fits the mood right now.
by CaliforniaBone on Nov 19, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
Good work man – Cal needed as many fans as they could get tonight.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 19, 2009 6:08 PM PST up reply actions
God I hate this Wesley Johnson guy. He just seems like an ass.
by CaliforniaBone on Nov 19, 2009 6:06 PM PST reply actions 1 recs
Looks like an NBA prospect.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 6:07 PM PST up reply actions
wooohoooo 14-10 colorado!!!!!!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:13 PM PST up reply actions
Postgame thread coming soon
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 6:18 PM PST reply actions
Dude, Avi, don’t bother. Let it go til tomorrow.
Let’s talk about how much Oklahoma State sucks and how much of a travesty it would be if such a shitty team made a BCS bowl. Why has no one written up long articles about how horrible the Big 12 has been this year? What is there record against C-USA and Houston in particular?!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:20 PM PST up reply actions
Nah, gotta get it done. Want to get back to Big Game stuff tomorrow.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 19, 2009 6:27 PM PST up reply actions
Couldn’t just not post anything at all? D=
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:38 PM PST up reply actions
I promise never to bring you bad JuJu for basketball again too. That, as they’d say, is MY BAD.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:21 PM PST up reply actions
Hey, at least no one got hurt.
by LEastCoastBears on Nov 19, 2009 6:31 PM PST via mobile reply actions
In the end, the result of this game doesn’t really matter (well not too much, it still sucks). Lavin and co. might be surprised at the result of this game but I don’t think any of us are. Biggest surprise is Theo being out at the last second, and along w/ Kamp’s injury, we didn’t have a chance from the start. If we get those two back it’s a completely different team.
Cal didn’t schedule these games primarily to build an impressive resume, although that woulda been a huge plus had we won today. But we got a real good look at the Syracuse zone and this experience will help tremendously when it counts most in the tournament (assuming we don’t pull an epic fail this season). Throw that in with the matchup tomorrow against either a very very experienced team or a very very athletic team and we’re getting a huge dose of what to expect from what will be our toughest competition from here on out.
Not a great outing by the bears, but I think it was fine. PC really needs to find a way to get his own shots though.
I think we’ll be fine. I hope…
And that wesley johnson guy, is he a prick because he sure looks like one.
A prick is a prick is a prick… and he sure looked like one
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 19, 2009 6:42 PM PST up reply actions
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