CBKWitness
With only 3 more chances to Revel in Victory and with Avinash completing basketball recaps before I can even exit Haas, I am running out of my extremely limited usefulness around here. If I don't start contributing, I'll probably miss out on that internet money which is coming to us any day now. So for the 5 basketball fans around here (including 3 mods), I give you CBKWitness, a weekly compilation of what I witnessed from Cal Basketball.
Most important observation so far? Go to the games, people! Haas was about half full for the two men's games, which is embarrassing for a team this good, this entertaining, and this easy to root for. Show up and support our team!
The men won their two preliminary Coaches Vs Cancer games last week, 75-70 over Murray St and 95-61 over Detroit. From the Murray State game:
- The referees respect Montgomery much more than Braun. The lead official called an absolutely horrendous charge on Boykin midway through the first half, and Monty completely dressed him down at the time out as 4,000 Cal fans looked on. Not surprisingly, the refs didn't call much on Cal for the rest of the half and all of the close calls went the Bears' way.
- From my friend Mike Montgomery: "Murray St is playing some good d". They were, for almost the entire game. Murray State is a good team and they challenged Cal for the first half before mounting a serious comeback to close the game. It was a little tense in the final minutes as Randle nearly turned it over a couple times and Murray State hit some improbable threes. Don't be surprised to see the Racers in the NCAA tournament.
- Randle put on 10 or 15 pounds in the off-season to improve his defense (sick of Jorge hounding him in practice, perhaps?) and it looks to have paid off. He was strong on the ball and did not let Murray State's point guard break him down on the dribble.
- The downside to Randle's new bulk? He did not look as explosive offensively and struggled to shake his man. I hope the extra pounds haven't slowed him down, because his speed is one of his chief assets, and at his height he needs defenders to respect his quickness in order to get enough space to get his shot off.
- Randle struggled to get in the lane and struggled with his outside shot, but still finished with 18 points. Like all good scorers, he knows how to get to the free throw line when his shot isn't falling. He hit 10 of 11 from the line for the game, 8 in the final 6 minutes of the first half as Cal built an 8 point halftime lead.
Boykin has some new offensive moves to go with his trademark hugs
- The biggest cheer of the game came as Max Zhang entered late in the first half. He's still a liability offensively - it would be one thing if he just got out of the way, but his spacing is poor and he's often in the wrong spot. It's the mark of a truly bad offensive player - not just being being ineffective, but making your teammates worse. On the other hand, his defense and boxing out have really improved, and Cal built its lead with Max in the lineup.
- DJ Seeley was the star of the inter-squad scrimmage, displaying a beautiful shooting stroke on a team full of great shooters. In this game, however, he was pretty juiced up and missed badly on his only three point attempt. Once he settles down he'll be able to score off the bench. Defensively he's a huge liability, as he was unable to stay in front of his man. Jorge, teach him how it's done!
- Markhuri Sanders-Frison, our new JC transfer center, was strong defensively, aggressive (at one point diving to the floor for a loose ball), vocal - all things that Jordan Wilkes was not. He doesn't have Wilkes' smooth passing or shooting touch yet, but he was better offensively than expected. One thing he doesn't seem to do is jump - he boxed out fairly well, but I don't think I ever saw him jump for a board. He also lost the opening tip, and something tells me that if we can't win the tip-off against Murray State, we're probably not going to win it much this year.
- We have kind of a freak-show at center: a 7'3 guy who weighs maybe 240 pounds and a 6'7, 270+ pound guy who can't jump. If Max ate Markhuri, I think we'd have an unstoppable force. As it is now, we have some improvement at center from last year in terms of production and a lot of improvement in terms of entertainment.
- Cal was a bit lazy getting out to challenge the three point shot. I thought they played pretty well defensively in general, but this was their weak point, especially at the end of the game. The final score was probably a little closer than the game as Murray State hit some late threes, but Cal has to improve its perimeter defense.
- I love Jorge. He is approaching the Hawk status in my mind. He hit two spot-up three pointers, which wasn't part of his game last year.
Ragnarok is right: The band plays a lot more than at football games.
Detroit:
- Randle came out on a mission to prove that his offensive struggles in Monday's game were a fluke. He looked great, getting around Detroit's point guard with ease. Late in the second half Randle had 15 points, 0 fouls, while his opponent was scoreless with 3 fouls.
- Cal jumped out on Detroit and seemingly put the game away early, building a 40-25 advantage. Detroit scored the last 7 points of the first half and first 4 points of the second half before Cal took over and cruised to a win. Murray State is a better team than Detroit, but Detroit has some impressive athletes and skilled players.
- Sanders-Frison contributed even more offensively with a number of slick moves but struggled with fouls for the second game in a row. With limited depth in the post, this will be an ongoing concern.
- Part of that lack of depth is Harper Kamp, who did not play in either game and will miss the trip to Madison Square Garden. He did practice on Monday, so hopefully he'll be able to play this year. We'll need him.
- Christopher had a tough first half, scoring only 4 while Detroit's two guard went for 15. That changed after half, as he finished with 18 points and clamped down on D.
- Theo isn't very fast or agile, but he's so smart and fundamentally sound defensively that he keeps his man from getting to the lane. His shooting form is beautiful, and he's also taking the ball to the hoop more.
- Midway through the second half, Cal was 24-26 from the free throw line.
- Max played 14 minutes and looked good, altering and blocking shots, boxing out, rebounding, even scoring on a few put-backs to tally 7 points. He has a long ways to go, but he's much improved from last year.
- Jorge again had four fouls, but some were pretty cheap. Monty played him for several minutes with four fouls, perhaps to let Jorge practice playing with more caution. Jorge finished the game and never picked up the fifth foul.
- The senior starters came out early with a huge lead, and our bench played strong in their stead. Our final lineup had players from five countries: Max (China), Nikola (Serbia), Jorge (Mexico), Nigel Carter (USA), and Bak Bak (Sudan)
- Yes, even Bak Bak played, which (I believe) prevents him from redshirting this year. It seemed like a strange move at the time, as Bak is clearly not ready to contribute and won't be for at least another year. If Monty did indeed burn his redshirt, it is probably to maintain class balance. Cal just signed a (very good) recruiting class of four freshman who will arrive next fall, and if Bak redshirts that will make 5 players in one class year. By "playing" (four minutes!) this year, he'll be a sophomore with Brandon Smith next year, making a freshman class of 4 and a sophomore class of 2 instead of 5 and 1. Monty probably wants to avoid having another huge class like our current 5 seniors, which could have been 7 (!) had Jordan Wilkes and Ryan Anderson stuck around. It means one less year of Bak in the program but more balance.
- I'm heading to my first women's game of the year, this Sunday against Baylor, so I'll have plenty about the ladies next week.
- Cal plays Syracuse at 4PM tomorrow. Syracuse lost their exhibition game to a D-II school but will be playing with a huge home court advantage in Madison Square Garden. Cal has a fantastic opportunity to show off for the rest of the country, playing an east coast team at an east coast time. May they be awed by the power of Max
Go Bears!
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Sucks that the games are so sparsely attended. I’m hoping, though, that as Cal starts to win and pick up momentum people will start to come around. Let’s hope that Detroit and Murray St are like our EWU (wait, on second thought, let’s not compare our bball team to our football team…)
by BerkeleyChris on Nov 18, 2009 1:43 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Murray St is legit
and Detroit has some high major talent (their center is a transfer from Indiana). Still, it’s hard to judge how good this team will be from the first two games. We’ll know a lot more come Saturday
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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2009 10:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Detroit has some high major talent (their center is a transfer from Indiana
He’s actually a local star from Richmond. Should have stayed home and gone to Cal!
by Missing Barry on Nov 18, 2009 10:59 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, I remember Farudo saying that
he apparently had anger issues at Indiana, I wonder if Braun recruited him or stayed away
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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2009 11:42 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, according to the broadcast the other night, I think he got kicked out cause he pushed a ref.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 18, 2009 12:08 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Some of it was fallout with Sampson and such, too. But yeah, I think you guys are right that he might have gotten dropped from Cal’s recruiting because of general “issues”. I remember hearing about some of the troubles he had before he ever went to Indiana, I don’t think his grades/test scores were good, either. Still, gotta root for the local kid to perservere through it all and make something of himself…
by Missing Barry on Nov 18, 2009 2:11 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I didn’t mean in terms of quality of opponent. Murray St played us pretty close and they’re definitely talented.
I meant more in terms of getting the fanbase excited.
by BerkeleyChris on Nov 18, 2009 1:59 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Even during Braun’s good seasons, I seem to remember the crowds improving once conference play got underway, It sucks, but it seems to be Cal’s nature. Any Harmon gym people out there remember? I never got to see it live.
by suessbear on Nov 18, 2009 11:20 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure it will be rocking for ucla/Zona/furd
but you’re right, people are not going to get up for Murray St. like they do for conference play. I do think there is a bit of football hangover here. If Cal wins Big Game, you might see some more enthusiasm for the rest of the non conference slate
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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2009 11:44 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
The hangover lasts well through Dec – I only go to games in Dec (since that’s when I’m home in the Bay), and the crowd is always extremely small.
by Missing Barry on Nov 18, 2009 2:12 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
re: Bak Bak’s redshirt.
I could’ve sworn there was some sort of “you can play until the 3rd/4th/5th game of the season and keep your redshirt rule” – but NCAA.org says “1 play in a football game, 1 point in a volleyball match will have counted for an entire season” so that seems unlikely.
by LeonPowe on Nov 18, 2009 2:57 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
I think you're thinking about the 20% rule
But that only applies if you play in less than 20% of your team’s games AND miss the remainder of the year due to injury. Having played in a game, the only way (I believe) that Bak Bak can redshirt now is if he gets injured and does not play beyond the 6th game of the season.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Nov 18, 2009 5:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
In football, it’s three games and you have to be “injured” for the rest of the year. I put that in quotes because a lot of teams will claim injuries to their freshmen after testing them out for a few games. I don’t know the bball rule but I had thought that you couldn’t play in any games – but I could be way off on that. I think Bak should redshirt because he won’t play any meaningful minutes this year, but I can see the class balance argument as well.
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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2009 10:31 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
This was a great recap. And I love the “We are all witnesses” picture.
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by Berkelium97 on Nov 18, 2009 9:29 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
It works so well because Christopher looks a lot like Lebron
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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2009 9:54 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
bleh
he is so much hotter than lebron. but i’m more of a luke walton fan anyways.
by BearBallCarrier on Nov 18, 2009 9:57 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I'm glad I don't have any major NFL or NBA allegiances
I don’t have to root for douchey college players when they turn pro and join my team. Although if any usc grads ever wind up on the Penguins, I’ll probably just have to suck it up.
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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2009 10:36 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
grads?
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by GoldBlooded on Nov 18, 2009 6:00 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
winning
makes you forgive many many things. lakers last year alone: walton, farmar, ariza.
go bears!
by BearBallCarrier on Nov 19, 2009 3:10 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Nicely done
On one hand, it’s nice to walk up and grab a $10 ticket (tho I have some already and um, might be getting season tix) I’d love Haas to regain some swagger. Last year made sense as the team came out of nowhere. I think alot of the problem comes from football hangover. Me on the other hand, I am a glutton for punishment. I am a Cal fan after all.
If Max ate Markhuri, I think we’d have an unstoppable force.
LOL. I loved Markhuri’s hustle that game, and I loved Max’s unintentional smackdown of the poor Murray State guard.
Can we get t-shirts with that pic on them?
by BearBallCarrier on Nov 18, 2009 9:56 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Fans
Here’s at least one additional basketball fan in the CGB readership. Though I am officially an unhip Old Blue at this point, having had my third child (that’s right, third) last year, I can usually get to at least a few basketball games every year because they are a relatively quick evening out and I can take my oldest without too much trouble. Love the football … just much more difficult to get to the games in person once you’re playing parental zone defense with a baby and two toddlers. I’m pretty excited for hoops this year. Hoping Haas regains the incredible excitement I witnessed there when Joe Shipp and Brian Wethers were tearing things up 2001-2003.
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by Strang! on Nov 18, 2009 10:11 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the blog man! Glad you could join us.
How would you compare this team to the Shipp/Wethers teams?
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by Avinash on Nov 18, 2009 11:02 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks! I’ve been an avid reader for a long time but usually self-edit to the point of not leaving comments. I feel like a bit a novice compared to many of the regular contributors. I haven’t really been able to see the team play this year, but listened to the radio broadcasts for the two most recent games and have read a lot of the description here. In some ways this team seems similar to the 2001-2002 team—in terms of having potent shooters. I vividly remember the game at Haas vs Fresno St where Shipp hit 9 three pointers. Wethers was always exciting to watch because he was so athletic driving to the hoop. And Shantay Legans was sometimes maligned as our point guard (not a huge scoring threat if I remember correctly), but was good at distributing the ball. Diggs was our defensive energy man (kind of like Jorge). I think he was exceptional at getting steals. Amit Tamir was a first year; can’t remember how much of a factor he was that first year. I do remember leaving Haas with my ears ringing from the unbelievable crowd noise every time I went to games that season.
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by Strang! on Nov 18, 2009 11:22 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
as someone who witnessed the 02-03 team
this one is better. I’d say weathers was more athletic than theo but not nearly as good of a shooter, and Shipp was a better scorer than Christopher but Christopher is more athletic. Randle is a great scorer and has improved his defense so far. And Jorge is so, so, so much better than Diggs. Of course, it goes without saying that Monty is a much better coach than Braun.
You will like watching this team. Hope to see you on the blog more often!
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by CBKWit on Nov 18, 2009 11:48 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I think Wethers/Christopher and Theo/Shipp are better comparisons than the other way around. Christopher was a better shooter than Wethers, but Wethers had better ball handling skills and was much better at driving and creating his own shot. Shipp and Theo were pretty similar overall – strong, could rebound well for a wing, both good shooters, could fake it at the 4 if need be…
Amit Tamir might have been slow and not much of a rebounder, but he was a very difficult matchup offensively for most college players. Think a less athletic Ryan Anderson. His post game was refined enough where you couldn’t put a small guy on him, but bigger guys would struggle to guard him on the perimeter. He played a decent amount as a freshman.
The team that had Tamir, Lampley, Wethers, Shipp and Legans was a very talented team, it’s too bad Braun was coaching. Monty could have made some noise in the Tournament.
Also too bad Cal’s basketball kind of fell apart after that with Dominic Maguire and Kately transferring, Legans transferring…I guess it lead to Monty, though…
by Missing Barry on Nov 18, 2009 2:19 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
I love you r handle so much!
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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2009 11:17 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Vinnie!
I don't care about losing all the money. It's losing all the stuff.
by Strang! on Nov 18, 2009 11:23 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
VINNIE!!!!!!!!!!
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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2009 11:55 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
who is this R. Handle?
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by GoldBlooded on Nov 18, 2009 6:01 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
NOBODY TELL MY WIFE ABOUT REGINALD HANDLE!
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by TwistNHook on Nov 18, 2009 6:24 PM PST up reply actions 0 recs
Hi I’m carp what’s your name?
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by carp on Nov 18, 2009 10:12 AM PST reply actions 0 recs
Carp, this is a basketball post. CARP!
WHAT'S YOUR DEAL?
by Thoroughbred on Nov 18, 2009 11:28 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs
right…I’m leaving now -——————————→
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by carp on Nov 18, 2009 11:41 AM PST up reply actions 0 recs

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