Cal vs. Detroit Basketball Preview & Open Thread
On Monday night, our Cal Men's Basketball team got a stiffer-than-expected test from Murray State in the opening game of the Coaches vs. Cancer Classic. They managed to survive, 75-70, but perhaps the adversity will do them some good. Tonight, however, it doesn't appear that the Detroit Titans are going to provide quite as big a challenge.
Last season, Detroit finished with just a 7-23 record. They won just two games in the Horizon league, and they never won back-to-back games. Their best win (and the only one over an opponent ranked by Ken Pomeroy in the Top 200 last year) was a 5-point home victory over St. Louis. Versus major-conference competition, both Purdue and Illinois defeated the Titans by more than 30, and even a pretty bad DePaul team (one that Cal beat by 10) managed to defeat Detroit 71-62. The best that could be said about them is that they twice came within 5 points of an NCAA-caliber Butler team.
To be fair, the Titans shouldn't be quite as bad this season. They do return their top four scorers from a year ago, three of them now seniors, and add a couple of talented transfers, including what may be the Bears' first real test against a big man inside.
Your game information is as follows:
California Golden Bears (1-0) vs. Detroit Titans (0-0)
Wednesday, Nov. 11, 8:00 p.m., Haas Pavilion, Berkeley, Calif.
Radio: KFRC 1550 AM TV: ESPNU
After the jump, we'll take a closer look at the Detroit roster:
Image via www.detroittitans.com
Detroit's leading scorer is 6' 7" senior forward Thomas Kennedy, who poured in better than 11 points per game, shooting more than 50% from within the arc. He will take a few three-point shots, but seeing as how he made less than a quarter of them last year, I think the Bears will be more than willing to give him that shot. It's also worth noting that Kennedy led the team in turnovers last year from the small forward position.
Returning from injury is 6' 7" junior forward Xavier Keeling, who actually led the team in scoring (12.1) and rebounding (6.6) average before being sidelined after seven games due to a foot injury. There's not much scouting on Keeling, considering he spent the previous year sitting out as a transfer from Indiana, and played sparingly for the Hooiers' as a freshman, but an athlete good enough to be recruited by Indiana is one worth worrying about.
5' 11" senior guard Woody Payne will be manning the point for the Titans. In addition to leading the team in assists and steals last season, he added better than 8 points per game in scoring. Still, his assist/turnover ratio was just 1.4, not great for a college point guard.
If there's one guy on the Titans' roster that really worries me, it's 6' 10", 255 lb. sophomore center Eli Holman. Holman, another transfer from Indiana (where he was part of a Top 5 recruiting class for Kelvin Sampson), will be making a homecoming of sorts to the Bay Area, where he was a standout national recruit in high school in Richmond. He's definitely got the size to cause matchup problems, and if he's got the skills to match the hype (he was a Top 100 recruit out of high school, where he once recorded a quadruple-double (24 points, 12 rebounds, 10 assists, 10 blocks)), he could create real problems inside for our Bears, where he's bigger than even Sanders-Frison and much more athletic than Zhang. I really don't know what to expect out of him, however, since he really hasn't seen much game action in more than two years.
Other newcomers for the Titans include 6' 5" shooting guard Chase Simon, a transfer from Central Michigan, and 6' 0" guard Lamar Lee, a community college transfer. If their exhibition games are any guide, both of these guys will see significant playing time (Simon may start), meaning this year's Detroit Titans may not only be significantly more talented than last year's edition, but a significant part of the roster won't have any scouting tape on them.
Just going on last year's stats, Ken Pomeroy declares that the Titans play mostly man defense (good news for the Bears, as they struggled against zones last year). They weren't particularly good at anything last year; conversely, they were particularly bad at shooting (and offense in general), defending the three-point shot, and were in the bottom 10 in the country in 3-point percentage, and bottom 5 in terms of offensive turnovers. Kennedy (81) and Payne (74) were the worst last year in terms of turning the ball over, and they're both back and handling the ball plenty, so I don't really anticipate a big improvement in this regard.
Overall, the Titans face a tall task this evening. I expect their defense to be decent, but unless Holman and their forwards can get going inside AND get a couple of our guys in foul trouble, I really anticipate Detroit having trouble putting points on the board. The Bears should cruise, and the only question in my mind is whether they take control of the game in the first half or the second.
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Detroit’s taken enough of a beating
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 7:23 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously, the first part of that comment is a joke. Yes, just homework. But not too much. Which is why I am here currently.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 7:42 PM PST up reply actions
pssshhh… homework. don’t waste your time with that stuff.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 7:46 PM PST up reply actions
I did my homework. Look where I ended up. I did my best and failed miserably. The lesson is, never try.
HolmoePhobe, is that you?
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 7:49 PM PST up reply actions
Also, you are the most interesting man in the world.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 7:50 PM PST up reply actions
I can’t remember exactly when, but at some point during high school I just stopped caring and did all of my homework half-assed at lunch.
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1) I am trying to go to an out of state school
2) I am a giant nerd and feel kind of empty without working on something.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 7:54 PM PST up reply actions
1) Any state in particular?
2) I wouldn’t recommend what I did. Were it not for questionable moral circumstances I probably would have ended up at UCSC, which is all fine and dandy but I couldn’t imagine missing out on Cal now.
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1) I like the south a lot. UNC interests me. It isn’t too expensive for out of state (compared to what my sister is paying for in state).
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
I would not suggest going to UNC over Cal if it comes down to that… even if that sounds cool right now. Duke, maybe
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:00 PM PST up reply actions
I feel dirty saying this here, but I really am not interested in going to Cal (even though Dball says I will not get in but I feel fairly confident that I will, provided that I continue my current academic trajectory). I like my space. Berkeley is too condensed (my policy: if one way streets are a necessity, I don’t think I want to live there), and a bit too weird. Plus, I can’t make my father too proud.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
you’re sounding like a furd, son. you may want to get that looked at
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
I should add that I don’t like THAT much space. Their campus is ridiculous. Wayyy to big.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Also, I am not too big a fan of California. In particular, northern California weather bothers me. Growing up in Vancouver has made me chemically dependent on rain, and I do not get enough here.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 8:07 PM PST up reply actions
Hence why I feel dirty.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 8:16 PM PST up reply actions
I think you just like baby blue but can’t admit it because of the UCLA implications!
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
UVa is an excellent choice if you’re looking to the South for public universities.
It is, however, not easy to get in.
Yeah. Great school. AL GROH!!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:03 PM PST up reply actions
3 things that interest me:
Journalism
History
Psychology.
I don’t believe UVa has a journalism school. Plus, they aren’t very good at sports.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 8:04 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, if he likes great schools from the South, he should go to USC.
…………………….I feel so dirty.
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Which one?
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
But he said public, so I thought you were reminding us of your mancrush on the state of South Carolina.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
I like the south a lot
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sigh… UT-Austin, maybe?
by atomsareenough on Nov 11, 2009 8:51 PM PST up reply actions
MIT material here, boys. Ivy league material!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
You way overestimate my financial situation. Also, not too big a math person.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 7:59 PM PST up reply actions
Hi
I made it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 7:50 PM PST reply actions
Hello
Was it ever in doubt?
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 7:56 PM PST up reply actions
Maybe
I don’t know.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 7:57 PM PST up reply actions
Joe Lunardi says right now we are a 4 seed in the East.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
I predict Dow Jones will be acquired by Google in 12 years from yesterday.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:05 PM PST up reply actions
Let’s face it, these guys are never going to turn out in droves until the spring.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
err, winter.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:08 PM PST up reply actions
or more known opponents
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:09 PM PST up reply actions
Cal has 50% more of Detroit’s score!
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They had 3. We hae 6! That’s 50% more, right?
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…..
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
that’s 50% of our score. we’ve doubled them up (100%)
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:10 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously, no one here was a statistic major.
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
I got like a 19 on the AP test!!!! Beat that, HS kid
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
Percent?
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by rollonubears on Nov 11, 2009 8:17 PM PST up reply actions
we have 200% of their score… our lead is 100% tho
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
You guys are seriously disappointing me right now.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:11 PM PST up reply actions
He’s like that teenager I’d never ever mess with on the playground.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:18 PM PST up reply actions
No ever is, really.
Although the human floorburn nickname is too similar to Tom Peabody’s* nickname “The Human Bruise”
- played on the late 90s Loyola Marymount teams with Hank Gathers and Bo Kimble
Seriously, is there anything you don’t know? Sounds like you could even comprehend basic percentages in your head, something that elludes even the snartest Marshawnthusiast.
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There’s lots of stuff I don’t know.
I came this close to failing Math 1B, something our coterie of chemists obviously did not.
Jorge: The Human Floorburn
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:19 PM PST reply actions
dat Boom Boom Boooom
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:23 PM PST up reply actions
Backup stream
http://atdhe.net/10159/watch-detroit-vs-california
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:22 PM PST reply actions
Man, I hope this backup stream can step in now that the starter stream is down for the count. I’m concerned about our stream depth. I know we recently recruited a 5 star stream, but I fear he’s too young and slowed by internet porn. What are your guys thoughts?
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I think this stream will be 50% as good as PRD’s stream.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:24 PM PST up reply actions
I like Jerome Randle’s Corey Magette style of play = get as many FTs as possible
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George Michael clearly is still recovering from his breakup with Ann.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:30 PM PST up reply actions
MSF has been a pleasant surprise these first two games. Curious to see if he can hold up these stats through the year
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Maybe not the stats, but if he can provide us with an inside presence and – much like Harrison used to – that would be unbelievably valuable.
Pick setting, pushing people around, boxing out all are useful.
He should attend the Ed Nealy School of Basketball*
*Ed Nealy once joked that he and Kurt Rambis were going to set up a basketball camp where all the campers did all day was set picks, box out, rebound and dive on the floor.
Can we get MSF to report to Memorial? … this guy looks like was destined to be a Tackle
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or our starting Center
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:38 PM PST up reply actions
That was probably Jerome’s worst FT ever.
Also: ZHANG TRAIN
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Bears not really playing well.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:43 PM PST reply actions
ANNOUNCEMENT: Hey guys, PRD told me his computer went kaput. He’s out for the evening. Here’s a backup for the remainder of the game.
so how long have you two been dating?
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:45 PM PST up reply actions
Am I off base in thinking of all the seniors, Theo has the best shot of one day making and thriving in the NBA?
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NBA Draft
I think Patrick Christopher has the best chance.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 8:48 PM PST up reply actions
Ehhh…
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 8:49 PM PST up reply actions
They’re all fringe for various reasons. But Theo has those redeeming qualities coaches love, which is maybe the most important. PChris does have NBA athleticism
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
2010 NBA Mock Draft
Only Patrick Christopher is projected to get drafted as of right now.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, it remains to be seen if he’ll stick though
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:52 PM PST up reply actions
that looked like the little asian guys i used to play in C-league intramurals!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:50 PM PST up reply actions
it just looked like he was so surprised to be all alone with the ball, so he just threw it up.
by atomsareenough on Nov 11, 2009 8:53 PM PST up reply actions
Just starting to watch the game. Is class in session? If so, where is everyone????
by BlackandOldGold on Nov 11, 2009 8:54 PM PST reply actions
seems like we got more for this game at least
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:55 PM PST up reply actions
well
randle shouldn’t have slipped, but he did get banged on the head pretty hard by the defender
by atomsareenough on Nov 11, 2009 8:58 PM PST up reply actions
the guy helped him to the ground there with his hand.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 8:59 PM PST up reply actions
Lame
How are you going to let Detroit close on a 7-0 run?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 8:59 PM PST reply actions
Cal needs to put these teams away. I’m sorry, this isn’t Murray State, Detroit is awful.
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you see, they have two Indian transfer… and…
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:01 PM PST up reply actions
we don’t have the same athleticism to blow these teams out of the gym like a Syracuse or UNC… we rely on shooting and smarts. and our shooting isn’t so hot at the moment
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:02 PM PST up reply actions
I suppose. Where is Seeley? I thought he was going to be most improved, at least that’s what guys like Randle said.
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just 1.5 games in, we’ll see
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:03 PM PST up reply actions
Not a really impressive first half. Guys aren’t moving off the ball well, taking difficult shots even when they’re making them…kind of expected something better than this.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:01 PM PST reply actions
On the other hand, MSF and Amoke are pretty active around the glass and MSF has some offense. That’s nice to see.
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Oh hustle and getting to the line is all there, which is encouraging…but the fact that we can’t get easy shots against Detroit is a little disturbing.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:04 PM PST up reply actions
Clippers
They’re playing the Thunder, though.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
If you take ESPN as gospel, yes
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah
The Thunder still aren’t a good team even if they do have some really, really talented young players like Durant, Westbrook and Green. They’re up-and-coming, but they’re definitely a year or two away from doing any damage.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:12 PM PST up reply actions
How are you feeling about the Warriors Rated-R?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:10 PM PST up reply actions
Sweet, they’ll only be the next-to-worst team in California!
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:09 PM PST up reply actions
Warriors
We lost to the Clippers by 28 and the Kings by 13.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
Clippers are better than both Kings and Warriors. You watch…
We got to the 2nd round of the playoffs just a few years ago!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:11 PM PST up reply actions
The only guy left from that team is Kaman.
Clips will be alright when they get Griffin back, but right now they’re 34-48 written all over them.
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Your mom has 34-48 written all over her!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:17 PM PST up reply actions
Kamen is 2nd best center in the NBA.
No, stop laughing.
Dwight
and who else? Bynum? Please. Diesel? Nope. Brook Lopez? Maybe. Yao is out. Duncan and Jefferson, if you’re playing fantasy basketball (where they have center eligibility) But yeah, Kamen. #2 C in the league.
Kaman
He’s German.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:20 PM PST up reply actions
I didn’t know they had a Grand Rapids in Gemany.
The more you know…
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:21 PM PST up reply actions
Amare?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:23 PM PST up reply actions
Stoudemire
I guess he counts as a center since Channing Frye starts along with him.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
eh
Amare will give you the points and highlights. But I’ll be straight up with you – I’d rather have Kamen. Amare is really good and catching Steve Nash (or Marbury) passes and dunking.
But has he ever really been able to take over? Become a reliable post option? Put the team on his back and grind out points?
Not really.
I guess I really don’t think about best centers anymore, since power forwards like Gasol, Duncan and Jefferson play at the 5 spot so much that it doesn’t really seem that different.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
Is Detroit playing us like this is their championship game? We should be laying the wood on these fools
18 to Cheeseboard
They may have better athletes on us, just from watching this game. We’re not a blow-you-out team
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:19 PM PST up reply actions
And how often do teams that can’t blowout inferior opponents win the Pac-10?
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I never said they were going to win the Pac-10
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
But that’s waht’s predicted and I think that’s what a lot of Cal fans want and expect this year.
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Cal fans expecting to win the Pac-10 2 years removed from BraunBall…people are greedy for instant gratification
I dunno… maybe, only because the other teas have a lot of question marks. But if recruits at other schools become studs, we’ll be out-athleted. I can see us winning if we can maintain defensive discipline and our shooting touch. MSF is better than I expected
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:25 PM PST up reply actions
yeah, barring injury, we’ll do well in the Pac-10… winning it’s a whole different ball game though
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
We’ll see how our team responds to being out-athleted when we play in Coaches vs. Cancer. Like PaulThomas was saying last year - we play like a good mid-major team
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:28 PM PST up reply actions
I don’t think blowing people out and being a good team are that related. I don’t think struggling a bit in these games really has much to do with how we are going to play against teams 3 months from now. Its important in these games to establish a rotation and figure out what we have. Of course blowouts would be nice.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 11, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
Turn to ESPNU, you’re watching HGTV about a gay couple in Philadelphia who was given $100,000 to remake their house. The game will be on ESPNU.
But, to be fair, they did a great job framing that TV in the bamboo wall covering.
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Patrick Christopher dresses better than most everyone.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
Dude, one of my facebook profile photos was from when I met PC at Boykin’s Art Exhibit. I outdressed the shit out of PC. He’s rocking the double denim with a white t, which is OK, but I have a black, double breasted vest with a yellow knit tie (that I knit myself) coupled with a dark blue polo, musical note tie as a belt, and my cabros. I fucked rocked the shit out of that outfit. Oh and one of my dad’s old driving hats done in a plaid style with very dark tones. NAILED IT!
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Ya, I knit scarves and ties. I’ve been knitting for several years now.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:22 PM PST up reply actions
They spent HOW much on bathroom fixtures???? TIME TO PANIC!
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Huh?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:24 PM PST up reply actions
I think it’s a reference to Jimmy Hairball’s new bathroom, but I can’t figure out what the connection is.
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It was fantastic."
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we’ve been beaten by horizon league teams… ::shivers::
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:31 PM PST up reply actions
i don’t think I’m being greedy to expect a smackdown by Cal here.
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you can expect it. just don’t feel we’re that type of team… we barely beat the worst Big East team last year
Christopher hasn’t gotten hot, and that usually gives us a run
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:34 PM PST up reply actions
maybe we should just shoot a bunch of threes.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:35 PM PST up reply actions
I feel Randle’s never going to get a three ever again this year. #1 defensive game plan = blanket Randle and don’t let him carry Cal with the 3 balls
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Inspired by our football team?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:36 PM PST up reply actions
I think that should be changed.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
because we don’t have all-stars
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:37 PM PST up reply actions
Yeah there’s that too. Really disjointed feel.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
We rely a lot on shooting. That makes it kinda difficult to blow people out. Its not like we are going to go out and hit 90% of our jump shots. Teams that run more can blow teams out because they get tons of layups/dunks. That isn’t who we are. We aren’t playing well, but not exactly crappy either.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 11, 2009 9:39 PM PST up reply actions
Okay, that doesn’t need caps lock.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:38 PM PST up reply actions
Gottlieb is absolutely butchering the pronunciation of Gutierrez
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I would like
to see a bit more Smith and Knezevic now that we’re up to 16. See if the back ups can hold the lead.
check that: 53
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:43 PM PST up reply actions
Clearly we need to play the Max more.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
Vegas continues to know all.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 PM PST up reply actions
They called him ‘undapper’ to his face
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:49 PM PST up reply actions
Whoa Zhang really stands out in that huddle.
Does anyone remember TFang from Braun’s time?
No way should a lightly built engineering major be a walk on for our team
18 to Cheeseboard
I know he could play – not at a Div I level, but as a regular player.
There’s been a lot of asian walk ons – when i was there it was some guy who was about 5’6". He was dominant in the RSF – and he played upstairs too, the courts where there was dunking going on.
Yeah, I remember a guy like that too. I remember running and winning ~12 games in a row, and this dude didn’t even sweat. 5’7 Asian guy was dunking in that last game!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:54 PM PST up reply actions
I think the wheels have fallen off the Detroit upset attempt.
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If they go on a 15-2 run now…
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:50 PM PST up reply actions
When you miss an uncontested dunk on one end and then give up a bucket to the Zhang train to go down 19 on the other end, your night isn’t going well.
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and motorized furniture
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
Blue Jackets
They were crushed tonight by the Red Wings, right?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
Hockey
It’s not really my forte, but I know that the Sharks are the best team in the Bay Area.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Strength of opponents so far
On Monday, Cal played what was clearly the toughest opponent (Murray State) among the other Coaches v. Cancer hosts (i.e., UNC, Ohio State, and Syracuse). I don’t know whom Ohio State plays tomorrow night, but this could be true again: Detroit looks way better than Robert Morris and NC Central, whom Syracuse and UNC beat soundly tonight, respectively.
Not a complaint, just an observation. If anything, assuming we can hang on for the win tonight, the tougher competition will help us, hopefully, in the RPI.
Praise be to Tedford!
Awesome
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:53 PM PST reply actions
You know, Max looks like he’s been eating a bit.
by BlackandOldGold on Nov 11, 2009 9:54 PM PST reply actions
he went from toothpick to gumby
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:55 PM PST up reply actions
Just received an email
from a UT friend of mine watching on his new HDTV.
“Just got a good look at Max Zhang. He has huge eyebrows – not good in HD”
by LeonPowe on Nov 11, 2009 9:55 PM PST reply actions 2 recs
I have ESPUHD and this game is not in HD for me. i find that very frustrating.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Is there a ESPNUHD?
I have Directv and I’m watching it on the regular channel. It looks like I’m viewing through cloudy glasses (which I am, but still…)
by BlackandOldGold on Nov 11, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Damn, wish I could still get UVERSE, so much better than Time Warner
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 11, 2009 10:00 PM PST up reply actions
HDTV
How does the hair of one Jorge Gutierrez look on there?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Swell
I’m listening to “Truly Madly Deeply” by Savage Garden right now.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Jinx
It’s too late.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:57 PM PST up reply actions
Once you arrived, the Bears started crushing. I think the key is for you not to miss another minute of Cal hoops. You’re the anti-carp.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 9:58 PM PST up reply actions
Clippers
After a 10-point fourth quarter, they failed to beat the Thunder at home despite Westbrook and Green shooting a combined 6-for-24 from the floor.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Thank you for giving me information I already know.
I will thank you in my suicide note.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
Sorry
Please, don’t do it.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 10:01 PM PST up reply actions
KNEEE-COLA!!!
I actually thought he’d be a baller during the Braun era. Alas no.
by BlackandOldGold on Nov 11, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
In Soviet Belgarde, you make three to eat
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 9:59 PM PST up reply actions
Dang
He settled for two points.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 10:02 PM PST up reply actions
Me too. He’s has athletic skills, relatively quick, and seems to have pretty good footwork. Now that he’s building a good base, he might not get moved off the block.
by BlackandOldGold on Nov 11, 2009 10:04 PM PST up reply actions
Higher Note
In other Detroit sports, the Pistons defeated the Charlotte Bobcats, 98-75, behind a strong nine-rebound, three-block and zero-point performance from Ben Wallace.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 10:03 PM PST reply actions
Brandon Jennings
Speaking of the NBA, how ‘bout Brandon Jennings’ performances? Coming into tonight, he was averaging 18.4 points, 4.4 rebounds and 4.4 assists. Tonight, he had 32 points and 9 assists while making all of this three-pointers and free throws against Chauncey Billups and the Denver Nuggets in a big win for the Milwaukee Bucks. That’s why Jennings was ranked fourth on my big board and why I wanted the Warriors to take him despite some experts saying he would slip out of the lottery.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Don’t worry — that’ll correct itself soon
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 10:06 PM PST up reply actions
That would be Florida International
by BlackandOldGold on Nov 11, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
Wait, how much time can Bak bak play until he can’t redshirt this year?
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Can we call Bak Bak “Chris Berman” for short?
by BlackandOldGold on Nov 11, 2009 10:07 PM PST up reply actions
No
I think you’re pushing it with 100, but I think we can get to 95 points.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 10:09 PM PST up reply actions
Yes
Pair him with Max Zhang and what do you get?
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Athletic Orgasm
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
I just rewatched it…no way in hell was that a travel!
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 11, 2009 10:10 PM PST up reply actions
Is it just 1 game he can play?
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
not sure if it’s one game or two
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
Obviously
He has to win Pac-10 freshman of the year this season.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 10:11 PM PST up reply actions
Bak
That shot sucked, but yeah, we’ll take the blowout win going away.
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by Rated-R Superstar on Nov 11, 2009 10:12 PM PST reply actions
It’s a good thing when you can’t decide who your favorite player is… and it’s between 8 different guys
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Alright, this is already proving to be more fun than football season. When is our next game?
by BlackandOldGold on Nov 11, 2009 10:13 PM PST reply actions
ESPN. New York City. IN dahhh Garrrden.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Nov 11, 2009 10:15 PM PST up reply actions
And against Syracuse. I am getting nervous already.
by Tedfordisgod on Nov 11, 2009 10:16 PM PST up reply actions
They won’t be able to handle the global lineup.
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 10:17 PM PST up reply actions
The California Globetrotters!
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by Thoroughbred on Nov 11, 2009 10:23 PM PST up reply actions

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