Treat Our Potential Recruits with More Respect Please!
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"It was different than Washington because on my official visit to UW, we sat in the student section. At Cal, we sat across from the students in the regular section and a lot of the fans there were yelling at us to take our seats because they couldn't see since we were a little late getting up there. It was weird, some of the fans were just plain rude to us and we had a lot of the USC fans sitting in our section too so that part was a lot different than my other visit."
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Spazzy and I kept on looking for the recruits during the game, didn’t see them, assumed they were down with the students. Whoops.
Really poor decision, esp. against USC. I guess everyone was really banking on a Cal win. Yes We Cannon says they’ve done this in the past, but I assume the Bears have beaten most of their opponents on big Homecoming games.
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I’m not sure why they do that, but I was under the impression that sticking the recruits with the alumni has been the case.
Not that it really matters given the fickle world of recruiting, but has anyone heard any negative fallout as a result of the game?
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 6, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Jay Guy is no longer a verbal. Cal, UCLA and Nebraska are his top 3. Although he might’ve been planning to reopen the books before this game, who knows.
Neither Owa nor King supposedly enjoyed their trips, according to one of the guys who follows recruiting closely.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 6, 2009 10:25 AM PDT up reply actions
The most ridiculous thing was on BI, they saw James’ reaction and basically collectively said “yeah, well it’s the AD’s dumbass fault for making them sit next to [us]!”
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
Oy! What happens on BI should stay on BI.
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Unless Avinash deems it worthy of import!
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 6, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Yes, I agree that bringing recruits to a game like USC doesn’t make much sense. The result in this game was hardly shocking (even if it was disappointing). I mean, my guess would be that the players have more choice than the school, but it just seems odd to me.
That sounds like major boneheaded error on the part of the athletic department. How are a bunch of alumni supposed to differentiate between recruits and fans who happen to be blocking their view? The AD needs to put the recruits in the most exciting place in the stadium!
I am a horrible bruin-bear crossbreed.
by GBB4188 on Oct 6, 2009 11:02 AM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Is this really Sandy Barbours decision? I seem to think this is a task that would get delegated to some underling.
Don’t we have a recruiting sub-department?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 7, 2009 2:31 PM PDT up reply actions
I’d assume so, but I was just saying that “AD” was “Athletic Department” rather than “Athletic Director”.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 7, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions
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by Swamphunter on Oct 6, 2009 11:21 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Yes, truly a facepalm moment in the history of Cal athletics
by BerkeleyChris on Oct 6, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions
I didn't think there was a way to make Saturday worse
But I was wrong. Thanks Old Alumni and whoever decided to put the recruits there!
Cal Football: It could happen!
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I wonder if the decision was made before the season when people thought “ooh, this could be a big quality win, any kid there when we break through against U$C is a sure get.” It was a big-payoff bet, but as always, big win bets are also big lose bets.
(I apologize if this has already been beat to death, but…how on earth did it end up that the Trojans were the homecoming opponent?)
It seems like, depending on how the schedule shakes out, the LA school home game is usually been the Homecoming game for much of the recent past, at least. I don’t know how these things get decided. The only other game that would have really worked, schedule-wise, would have been Washington State. I guess it was designed to draw as much interest in Cal as possible.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
blazerfan4life29 (10/3/2009 at 11:14 AM)
I hope most if not all of these players relize that Oregon is 5 times better then Cal sure WE all know Oregon has the loudest staduim in the Country and the nicest facilities plus one of the top 3 nicest staduim in the Country. But Cal does sure have a staduim that’s falling apart terrible facilities and ugly ladies everywhere i saw 3-4 hot ladies at a game in berkly i see thousands of beautiful ladies at every Oregon home game. Oregon 42- Cal 3 Cal only scored in the game becauses of a early Oregon turnover Cal didn’t get past the Oregon 20 lol at Cal and their falling apart staduim.
. And yet another reason Berkeley continually outclasses your rabid run-of-the-mill Community College of Eugene fan. Knight can give them all the shoes he wants, but even he can’t put up enough cash to educate them.
Needs more doublebreastedsuitfan4life29.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 6, 2009 2:58 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
That guy posts all over ESPN comment boards- especially the recruiting pages, he is annoying as hell. He bashes all PAC 10 schools, kid is bogus.
by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 6, 2009 3:05 PM PDT up reply actions
Like an Oregon version of MoronSC?
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
Exactly!
Except I think he is 9 or doesn’t speak English. And spews some of the most ignorant and racist remarks. I don’t know how he has not been banned yet. All he talks about is hot girls and their cool stadium. I’d slap him if I got the chance.
by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 6, 2009 11:03 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah so the AD sucks for putting the recruits there, but how about those fucking old crusty ass alums who come to a game and treat it like they’re watching on TV? We already got rid of the recruits, now how do we get rid of THEM?
Suck a lot an djack up ticket prices. It’s a can’t fail proposition!
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Have only students sit in the student section and have alums, I don’t know, under the age of 40 actually sit in their assigned seats. Lead by example!
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I don’t ever want to sit on the west side of the stadium. I had to for Alumni Band Day and it sucked.
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Life sucks. It’s a fleeting four years of “go,” and a dull lifetime of “bears.”
by CalBear81 on Oct 6, 2009 5:18 PM PDT up reply actions 7 recs
lol, thanks for the perspective! This is one of the deepest comments I think I’ve ever seen on this board.
California Golden Blogs: It’s a fleeting four years of "go," and a dull lifetime of "bears."
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 6, 2009 10:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Or you could be like me and buy Gold Zone tickets but sneak into the student section every game. “Go” for life, baby!
by BerkeleyChris on Oct 7, 2009 12:45 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, I’m told that if you just keep renewing your young alum tix every year, they won’t kick you out. QQ has a decent amount of older people who have just renewed the same seats for years and years.
So, if you’re up to the challenge, you don’t ever have to sit on the west side of the stadium. I never have, and hope I never do.
CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.
I hope everyone realizes that I was (mostly) kidding. There are some advantages to reaching the “bears” part of life – solid professional standing, stable home life, healthy bank account, almost paid-off mortgage, the opportunity to harp on the endless failings of “young people today” . . .
As for QQ, in my day, young man, those seats weren’t sold as season tickets. Once you graduated, if you wanted season tickets, it was West Side Story. No choice.
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by Yes We Cannon on Oct 7, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions
The big issue I see is that the old people have no where to go because we have no luxury boxes. Other schools shut their rich cranky old farts up in a glass box and let people that want to participate sit in the bleachers. We’re kind of stuck until they build something else. Or until they all die off. Sorry, that sounded morbid.
Just a note to the older blues
RELAX! You guys are way too cranky and rude! The SC game was the 4th time in a year some old frakkin idiot rudely yelled and/or cursed at me for standing and yelling while we were on defense. It goes without saying that I believe everyone should be allowed to support our team by standing and shouting while we’re on defense, but if you’ve really got a problem with it, why don’t you POLITELY ask, “can you sit down please?” Is that so damn hard to do? Who made you old punks the king of memorial and gave you permission to chew people out for simply supporting the team??!! Unfortunately for me, I lost my usual cool and went off on the guy who yelled/cursed at me repeatedly, so I probably looked like the young hot-headt and my point was probably lost. But instead of creating volatile situation in the first place, old blues, just CHILLAX and treat the younger blues with respect, the same way you want to be treated!
The only time I have sat on that side was the 2006 game against Minnesota. This was just after the Tenn debacle, and we were really nervous. Cal absolutely rolled, a great game on the field, but the crowd experience was the worst ever. No rude words but lots of dirty looks just for standing and yelling after TDs! Hardly anyone even stood up after TDs (!) let alone good plays or just to disrupt the opponent’s offense. Just no energy whatsoever.
GOLD OUT MOZAMBIQUE!
It really is a problem and I’m not sure how to resolve it. A few of us younger folks who sit on the alumni side jokingly suggested an Alumni mike-man/woman. But after I thought about it more this week, the more I think it could be a great idea! Why not get the alumni side pumped up too, get them standing, cheering, yelling over opposing defenses—-but by one of their peers, somebody they’d respond to. I wonder if any blues in their 30s – 60s would even want to take on the job? Well, it would make a very interesting experiment at the very least.
by SonofCalifornia on Oct 7, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions
oh, did we try this already? what is this pic and when was it from?
by SonofCalifornia on Oct 7, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh, no. It’s the UCLA alumni yell leader [Link includes video]. He’s pretty ridiculous.
During the week, Geoffrey Strand seems normal enough. The 59-year-old works for a Santa Monica financial services firm as a senior advisor. But on Saturdays in the fall, he puts on short pants, short socks, a baggy sweater and a newsboy cap and becomes the alumni cheerleader for UCLA. “No question, what I do is a little goofy,” Strand told the L.A. Times in 2004. “People are surprised I do it. They say it’s kind of quaint or odd. But that’s the passion we have at UCLA. It’s not contrived or marketed. It’s real.” This all started in 1976, when former Bruin coach Terry Donahue asked Strand to lead cheers for the alumni. Strand’s fame is such today that he is invited to work Bruin birthday parties and pep rallies. To fulfill his commitments, he has to show up five hours before home games.
Also, Daily Bruin article on him:
"I’m privileged to have the opportunity to serve and expand the UCLA community, because there are not too many things in life where you can sit down with these kinds of people and and cheer and stand up and scream for a common purpose," Strand said.
A 31-year veteran of promoting UCLA spirit, Strand, who was elected head cheerleader in 1970-71, says that UCLA gives him all the pom-poms he can take in compensation for his effort.
But he hasn’t quit his day-job. The senior vice president for Morgan Stanley has been at every home football game for the last 26 years.
While most people see Strand as someone who leads cheers, his role extends way beyond that.
In 1976, Strand, along with other members of the UCLA community, was asked by former UCLA football coaches Terry Donahue and Jerry Long, as well as former athletic director J.D. Morgan, to help change the face of UCLA football and make it a more family-friendly environment.
So Strand set out to involve more alumni in the spirit of the game. But it was not a one-man effort.
"I just happened to be the focal point," Strand said. "It wouldn’t have happened without other people helping."
Alumni activities such as as a breakfast club and an alumni band were organized, providing UCLA alumni with a stronger sense of community.
"Loyalty and allegiance began to be built, and the alumni section was creating so much noise that opposing coaches would file protests," Strand said. "You couldn’t ask for better PR."
And Strand knows how important all fan support is to UCLA teams. At the 1979 home game against Cal, UCLA was behind more than 17 points at halftime. Then head coach Terry Donahue approached Strand, and said, "Geoff, I need you. We can win the game if we can get the fans in the game."
That was all Strand needed to rally the Bruin troops. After relating Donahue’s request to the cheering sections, everyone stood up for the last half of the game.
The Bruins took home a 28-27 victory that day.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 7, 2009 3:48 PM PDT up reply actions
That guy is SO annoying, … “Not now, not now… but NOW!” Ugh.
by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 8, 2009 1:32 AM PDT up reply actions
He is a little annoying. But one thing I think a lot of Cal and UCLA fans have in common – we didn’t watch a lot of sports growing up. I barely understood the rules of football before going to UCLA. Having some old dude telling us when the appropriate time to make a lot of noise helps get the youngsters up to speed.
Go Bruins!
and, oops, meant opposing offenses!!!!
by SonofCalifornia on Oct 7, 2009 3:36 PM PDT up reply actions
So Strand set out to involve more alumni in the spirit of the game. But it was not a one-man effort.
“I just happened to be the focal point,” Strand said. “It wouldn’t have happened without other people helping.”
Alumni activities such as as a breakfast club and an alumni band were organized, providing UCLA alumni with a stronger sense of community. “Loyalty and allegiance began to be built, and the alumni section was creating so much noise that opposing coaches would file protests,” Strand said. “You couldn’t ask for better PR.”
Why aren’t we doing this?!! Imagine the increased enthusiasm, not to mention the noise. And I wouldn’t get yelled at for standing and shouting if most others were standing and shouting too.
Yo Sandy, can you get this up and running?
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