Something that bothered the hell out of me yesterday
by Nasty_Nate on Oct 4, 2009 5:03 PM PDT
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Besides the obvious fact that we attempted a field goal on 2nd down with 12 seconds left.
Alot of us started booing and Tedford turned around and made a gesture at us as if to tell us to shut up.
I don't think I need to explain why this bothered me.
Never in the 2000 season was I as irritated as I was after Tedford did that.
Then after the game...
"There is no way in the world we are folding our tent" JT
and yet you're kicking field goals on second down; down 20 with :12 left in the second quarter
yeah i dunno Jeff but where I come from that seems an awful lot like you were at the very least putting your 1 million dollar a year sleeping bag back in the gunny sack.
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Cool story Hansel.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
Several possibilities in this situation
If the Bears fail the snap, that gives them enough time to spike the ball and try it again.
Also, USC was dropping seven into coverage and guarding the end zone heavily. The possibility for a touchdown was very slight, especially with Riley’s accuracy issues and the galloping wind. Imagine if Riley had been picked in the end zone, then he’d have been criticized for not trying to get the points on the board.
There’s also the issue of Riley possibly getting sacked, or rolling out, losing track of the clock, and holding onto the ball second too long. A certain famous incident comes to mind.
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Booing your own team at a college game is not cool. Ever. No excuses.
by paleodan on Oct 4, 2009 7:14 PM PDT via mobile reply actions 10 recs
Absolutely not. I hate the USC band with an enthusiasm unknown to mankind. They are so rude how they play whenever Cal band starts playing or when we cheer for something or show something on the video board. That’s a lot of arrogance coming from a band that knows two (maybe three?) songs.
Whose domicile? OUR DOMICILE!
THIS.
I got into an argument with several people around me because they were booing Cal in the 4th.
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Rec’d. I reserve my only “boos” for the refs. I don’t even like it when the visiting team takes the field.
Booing the kids just goes against reasonable conduct.
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Totally agree with our new overlord – booing the refs is always in fashion and awesome. Paired with classic epithets like “hey ref, get off your knees, you’re blowing the game” and “hey ref, your mom called… SHE SAID YOU SUCK”, a good time is bound to be had by all.
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We also had a ton of kids on visits there yesterday, maybe he didn’t want them to get the idea that they’d be booed if they messed up at cal, witch unfortunatly isn’t the case. Cal fans have a dissapointing habbit of booing kids If they under achive, some thing I personally hate. If your mad stay quiet, don’t attack the kids and make it worse.
I’m completely with Tedford on this one guys.
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by HOUSE66 on Oct 4, 2009 7:33 PM PDT via mobile reply actions
It's NEVER ok
to boo your own team. Sorry, but Coach T was right. If you’re that upset, just leave, since you’re clearly not happy watching the game.
I've been Honked...
by giantfan5 on Oct 4, 2009 8:46 PM PDT reply actions 3 recs
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 4, 2009 10:16 PM PDT up reply actions
I'm going to repeat this post
Primo posted on the postgame thread that he booed last night and that it was ok because it was aimed at the coaches. I disagree:
I realize that you’re booing the coaches. I myself would’ve loved to boo a whole bunch of people, but I didn’t for the reasons below:
1) No one is going to know that you’re booing the coaches and not the players. Unless you want the stadium announcer to say "FOLKS THE BOOING THAT IS ABOUT TO COMMENCE IS TOWARDS THE COACHES NOT PLAYERS", then your booing will be taking in the field as towards the players.
2) In that extent if the players feel like they’re [being] booed they will deflate and perform worse than they already are. These guys are just 20 year olds. I don’t know your age and I respectfully understand that you’ve seen more than I but I am the same age as Riley, Best and co. I know how I’d feel if someone came up to me and said "BOO YOU SUCK THE CURLY BRACES DON’T GO THERE!". I wouldn’t be too happy and it WILL affect my performance. Yes it shouldn’t but it does.
3) It creates a hostile environment where no failure is permitted. These aren’t 30 year olds with thick skin. They are 20 year olds. This is just a rehash of point 2.
4) It is detrimental to Cal’s future especially yesterday. Now this only matters if you are a TRUE Cal fan and care for the school. It doesn’t matter if you hate Tedford, hate Riley and want the entire team out of there. If you still care for the Cal football program as a whole you don’t boo. The recruits, when they hear the booing isn’t going to care who it is directed at. They’re going to hear a hostile environment, think to themselves "not only is Cal loosing but their fans are boo-birds. I’m not playing here". This is detrimental to Cal’s football future.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 4, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Nasty Nate here is Tedford's official explanation.
On the field goal attempt at the end of the first half
We wanted to put points on the board. There were 12 seconds left and I didn’t want it to be a situation where somebody caught the ball or we got sacked and we came away without putting points on the board. I thought it was a nice drive. We moved the ball down the field nicely. We just missed it.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 4, 2009 10:49 PM PDT reply actions
Doesn’t that seem like a vote of total no-confidence in the entire offense? (Not to say that it might not be justified, but it’s a pretty sad comment on the offense.)
What a coach says to the media and what his true intentions were may very well be different. Here’s the thing, so you get three points. You are still down three scores. Either way you need three scores. Take the shot at the end zone, especially with SC getting the ball at halftime. In the end, I don’t care what his reasoning was, it was a bad call.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Yes, you still need three scores
But you only need to hit the end zone twice now rather than three times, and kick a field goal. Without the score you need three touchdowns, which is very very difficult to do against USC.
I’m not saying I’m happy with the call, but I can understand why he kicked it early.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 5, 2009 12:04 AM PDT up reply actions
It felt like a damage-control move, rather than a win-the-game move. At that point in the game, though, I totally understand. I didn’t like the call either, but I understand it.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
I knew people weren’t going to like it, but based on the way Riley was throwing the ball I was thinking that ball would’ve gotten picked if he tried airing it to the end zone. And then the boos would’ve been louder.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 5, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions
So we can’t even let our quarterback try to through a touchdown pass, because he will probably be intercepted. I’d say we are in really big trouble.
Actually, I thought that Riley’s two-minute drill at the end of the first half was just about the best he’d looked after that opening drive. His last pass of the half wasn’t close to catchable, true, but it wasn’t close to being intercepted either.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
The thinking is probably that with twelve seconds left and USC dropping seven-eight into coverage in the end zone, he’s going to have to throw one up, or that he might hold onto the ball for too long (possible), and the probability of it getting picked is rather higher than of it getting caught. So you try for the points and give the team something to feel good about before halftime.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 5, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions
I guess. Still, I think at that point, a field goal says “hooray, some success, we’re on the scoreboard”. A touchdown says, “hey, we might still win this thing!”
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Yeah, questionable, but I’m trying to get into what Tedford might’ve been thinking.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 5, 2009 4:28 PM PDT up reply actions
POINTS EQUALS GOOD YAAAAAY
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
That was probably Quinn Tedford’s thoughts, yes.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 5, 2009 5:11 PM PDT up reply actions
At the end of the half, he’s consistently chosen a safe kneel down-esque play. It wasn’t out of character or anything. Very few coaches go for the jugular in similar situations. I just happen to like the coaches that do. I’m not even asking for a dead duck to the endzone, just… anything with potential would have been appreciated.
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 5, 2009 5:16 PM PDT up reply actions
Good job Herm, have any more trivialities you want to point out for stupid columnists to eat up?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 5, 2009 5:40 PM PDT up reply actions
Anyone mention that there were tons of recruits there? They’re not going to distinguish who is getting boo’d. I assume they’re going to think it is directed at the players.
Yeah I think it was discussed a couple times. Honestly, given the way everyone was playing I thought the booing was pretty light for a Cal crowd.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 5, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Fair weather, spoiled, indulgent, Cal fans
Yuck.
Never boo your own team. It says more about you than it does the team.
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