Trojans 30, Golden Bears 3: More Quarterback Blues
For the fifth straight matchup in the series, a Golden Bear quarterback could not beat the Trojan defense.
Kevin Riley spread his first quarter inaccuracy woes (three TDs and a low completion percentage thrown careerwise in the first quarter) through the entire game. The result was a stagnant Cal offense that couldn't pass the ball for more than a few spurts, and by extension couldn't run the ball. You can blame it partly on the 20 mph wind gusts which might've put extra air on the balls, on receivers missing their cuts or stopping on routes, on the offensive line occasionally blowing their matchups and forcing the pressure (albeit they only allowed 2 outright sacks).
But most of the execution failures, for better or for worse, fall on Riley; there were too many throws that just weren't even close to the target. He held onto the ball for too long, his throwing motion just didn't look right, and he hesitated after making his drops in the pocket, whether due to good downfield coverage or...hell if I know, what else can make you hesitate in the pocket?
Neverthless, the opportunities were there; his accuracy wasn't. His completion percentage, one of the best in the country through three weeks, is now hovering at a horrifingly Ayoobian 50% on the season. I sincerely apologize to everyone for claiming Kevin Riley is no Joe Ayoob. He sure looked like it tonight.
It got so bad that Andy Ludwig ran the Wildcat with Best and Sofele in motion, down 23-0 for an entire drive. That's a damning indictment of our passing game--down three scores in the second half, our quarterback was set out wide to block for 30-40% of the offensive snaps.
The Oregon game was a much more complex failure. The USC game is a simpler one to figure out. The Trojans stacked the box on Best early on and dared Riley to beat them in the air. After the first drive, he couldn't. We can guess what the formula will be from here on out to beat the Bears.
Do I think Riley should be benched? Not in the slightest, and it's not just because Tedford's saying so. It's just too early in the season to mark this as a trend, and he did just face one of the best defenses in the country. Let's see if he can settle himself down and work his way into the system against the rest of the Pac-10. If the struggles persist deep into play and jeopardize Big Game or bowl hopes, then I might be persuaded to go the other way. But for now, I'm far from that jumping point.
Playcalling bad? I dunno. I know a lot of people are going to be mad at the run/pass disparity when we have #4 back there, but USC was selling out to stop him all day, and they have the talent and athletes to do so. And that first drive was going well there until the end. After that, it's hard to tell how much of that is on the players not running the plays right, or Ludwig calling in plays the defense can anticipate.
What does annoy me is that I'm beginning to predict what Cal will run on every play based on formation and snap motion, and I'm still fairly novice on the subject. Two tight end set to the left? Best running to the left. Riley in the shotgun is almost always an automatic pass downfield. Put Holley back there and it's almost always an inside run. Lord knows what other defensive coordinators are brewing together in the upcoming weeks.
We have a new tight end for the future. Anthony Miller was our offense for much of the game. The Trojans pretty much blanketed Verran Tucker and Marvin Jones, so that left the middle open, and Riley hooked up with Miller on some big catch-and-gains. At 6'3 258, we might've found someone who combines the blocking of Stevens and the pass-catching abilities of Morrah. In a game full of negatives, this is a pretty enticing development.
Bob Gregory's defense did their part. While the Cal defensive scheme bended plenty in this one, putting the Trojans in the red zone a lot, the final result was 16 offensive points going into the third quarter, with three impressive goal-line stands by an outmanned and outgunned defensive front. There were no big offensive plays other than the first McKnight touchdown. Add in the three points the defense helped cause from the turnover, and that's only a differential of 13 points. If you'd told me Cal's defense had held USC to 16 points going into the 4th, I'd have been strutting like Usain Bolt.
Yes, I'm frustrated by the zone coverage holes too, but give credit to the other team's quarterbacks. Masoli and Barkley made some huge completions that most college quarterbacks probably wouldn't have handled. That zone defense should do its job in future weeks in keeping Pac-10 quarterbacks from hitting their spots. For right now it looks bad, even though it was far from the reason for our loss.
Our linebackers are in serious learning mode. These guys are struggling. First they had to deal with the spread, than the best talent in the country in back-to-back weeks. Bad pursuit angles, dominated by blockers, no pass rush, nothing. I can't even talk in complete sentences about these guys, because it's frustrating to watch them struggle like that. They did hustle in there and help make some nice goal-line stops, so that's encouraging for upcoming road tests in Pasadena and Tempe.
You know how Mike Mohamed looked like the best linebacker last season? I'm starting to think that's because he was the fourth linebacker opposing offenses worried about. They should get better as the season goes along, but the growing pains hurt on our defense for now. The secondary and defensive line have been carrying too much of the weight. It's got to start evening out.
Two mistakes made a big difference in this game's outcome. The first mistake was the Riley interception (the worst of many bad throws), which turned a promising Cal start into a deflating Trojan bite-back touchdown drive. The second was the straight-on punt by Anger to Damian Williams right for the touchdown. Although I knew we'd get an Alamar special one of these days, these are the sort of things you throw out over the long run as anomalies rather than trends. Those two mistakes comprise a 15-21 point swing right there, which could've turned a 23 point margin into a field goal/touchdown margin going into the 4th.
Cal fans are being too critical of Jahvid Best's weak performances in big games. People need to get over how Jahvid is no longer a viable Heisman candidate. A Heisman Trophy almost always rewards the best QB/RB on one of the top two regular season teams; seven of the last ten seasons that's been the case. The odds were stacked against the Jet from the start, and it was impossible to live up to the hype in the long run without additional help from his offense.
Jahvid has his weaknesses, there's no doubt--his pass protection and blitz pickup abilities need plenty of work. However, in terms of running ability, he needs his blockers to open gaps for him and a stable passing game that plays in tandem with his abilities. He got neither in Oregon and only average run blocking against the Trojans. And even if he had Alex Mack and Will Ta'ufo'ou, they too would have had their difficulties against eight to nine Trojans in the box in that first quarter when it was a relatively close one.
Besides, how can Best step up if his counterpart in the backfield steps down?
USC brought their A-game. While it's always fun to blame the Bears for our woes, let's not forget the other team on the sideline is the six-time defending Pac-10 champs. I always worried in the back of my mind the Husky upset would awaken the sleeping giant, and...yeeeeap. They're back alright.
Matt Barkley only completed 57% of his passes, but converted several huge passes for crucial 1st downs. Joe McKnight stepped up big in the absence of Stafon. And God, those offensive linemen--I know it'll sicken you to hear me gush over USC linemen, but they dominated this game. Barkley had plenty of time to make his throws, and they were much of the difference between 3 and 4 yard runs and 6 to 8 yard runs. The most important part of this game that no one will notice was how well the Trojans blocked, from the tackles and guards and center to the fullback and the receivers and tight end.
Of course all that and we still held them to 16 points on offense going into the 4th quarter. I dream longingly of the day we'll hit 16 points on offense again.
We might have played the two best teams in the Pac-10 in back-to-back weeks. So let's keep that in perspective. Both our opponents came out with a specific strategy on offense and defense, executed it to a pinch, and watched while we bungled our opportunities. Yeah, it sucks to deal with the bad execution stuff, but it can happen with 19-23 year olds.
Yes, our expectations are smashed, but we have two weeks to refocus and retool for the rest of the season. I never really saw quit in our players, even late in the games, so you have to feel that the Bears will be ready to bring it the rest of the year. As much as we'd like to think it's the end of the world, there are other things our football players are willing to play for other than a Pac-10 title.
If our coaches are able to make the right adjustments in the upcoming weeks against formidable but equally flawed Pac-10 opponents, we should be able to right the ship and win five or six games in the conference. There are plenty of good but fairly winnable games coming up for the Bears in the upcoming weeks, we just need to focus on executing above all else.
And let's hope that Kevin Riley's arm can start throwing footballs like a regular quarterback again. Because I miss seeing regular quarterback play for the Golden Bears.
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Thanks for the pep talk
You’re right that we need to keep this all in perspective. I’ve just been rooting for Cal for too long to have much patience.
Two things that really frustrate me (out of many) are: 1) As soon as Riley throws the ball I can tell it’s sailing over the receivers head and 2) our lack of running outside the tackles (ESPECIALLY when there’s 9 guys in the box).
If I can see Riley’s motion is throwing too high before the ball’s left his hands then the coaches HAVE to be able to see it and fix it. But then, I thought the same thing two years ago when Nate’s motion suffered in the second half of the season and no one did anything about it.
Now, we DID get more creative with our runs in this game than against Oregon (THANK YOU, Ludwig), but I just don’t feel like our run playbook is all that complex. When your line can’t open holes up the middle, go somewhere else. Just a thought: wildcat formation, stack and motion to the left, have Jahvid take two steps to the left to get the right DE crashing down the line, then bolt right. Would have worked against Oregon, too.
AAAAAAAAAAAAARGH ! When you use trickery and chicanery and have a receiver at the sideline with NO ONE COVERING HIM………….throw it IN bounds. IN BOUNDS.
I'd like to smell the Roses before I die.
Yeah, the Vereen debacle was the only time during the game I actually got angry.
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by rollonubears on Oct 4, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions
That would have been epicly sweeet!
by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 4, 2009 2:55 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
The worst part about this loss
Wasn’t that Riley couldn’t hit water if he fell out of boat, nor that the difference in score was 10-fold, nor that season ticket holders who sold their seats to SC fans.
The worst part is that the entire program came out very flat, at home, in front of a sellout homecoming crowd and 25 6-star recruits who are likely considering Cal, SC, and others. And by “entire program” I mean Tedford’s ultra conservative style when a radical spark is needed (Gregory’s uber soft zone, Ludwig’s very predictable Riley/shotgun = pass & Best/shotgun = run).
To top it all off, several players (15?) hung around the stands following the game to chat with family and friends.
I think Tedford’s great and needs to be evaluated with his competitors when Cal has actual facilities. However, if he loses his team…again…I’m not sure how long that’s going to work out. I’m OK with 3rd/2nd place finishes until facilities are built. That might be Cal’s ceiling right now. But if the wheels start to fall off…
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by carp on Oct 4, 2009 7:27 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Yes yes yes, absolutely. The problem is that the team didn’t look like it cared that much about winning this game, or getting blown out for the second straight week. I mean, by God, try and fail, but at least try.
Unfortunately, I saw indifferent tackling on defense, players laughing about their own failures on offense, and a team totally lacking in confidence or motivation. After 2007, I never thought I’d have to say this again about a Tedford team, but there it is.
“Indifferent tackling”? What does that even mean?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 4, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
Arm tackling. Letting guys get away after you have them in the grasp, or trapped along the sideline. That’s indifferent tackling.
Pretty much disagree on all counts. The kids played real hard, and Ludwig’s playcalling was great. Riley/receivers/LB’s just did not execute…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 4, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh good! I wrote up in my grades that I thought Ludwig called a really innovative game. Lots of different looks, some mild trickery, etc. What else can he do, if Riley can’t make his passes consistently?
cal fans also laying stinkers
i was also disappointed with the cal fan base at the stadium.
i know it’s tough being a cal fan right now, but the crowd never seem to be all that loud and give much support. when things are going sour that is when our team needs the most help from those in attendance, yet we too seem to get down on ourselves and never give our team any type of home field advantage.
look at oregon, their fans are crazy and it had a tremendous affect on what happened last week.
get off me bandwagoners!
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by cleancutmedia on Oct 5, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Thanks, Avinash
Great to keep things in perpective and I came away from the game with basically the same conclusions. We did play the top two teams in the conference, each with plenty of motivation. Distressing to see we got totally pwned, but this team’s psyche is so fragile the last couple of games. The slightest thing going wrong throws it into a tizzy. The pick by Riley let out ALL of the steam.
That said, it’s way too early to pack it in for the season. We have a bye week to straighten it all out. If we come out and play the same at UCLA as we did the last two weeks, then I think we can start calling for Sweeney.
No prob.
While I don’t think our psyche is damaged, we might have some serious leadership issues in the absence of Mack and Follett. Squid’s too quiet, Best really can only lead by example, and Riley might be vocal but he isn’t backing it up with his play. Devin Bishop might be vocal, but it’s not really translating into results.
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Wazzu scored more points against USC last week than we did on Saturday. More. With arguably inferior talent. I can’t wrap my head around that.
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Wazzu
Wazzu scored more points AT the Colliseum. And Wazzu definitely has FAR inferior talent; it is not arguable.
I don’t think USC ever pulled its first string against us, though. Perspective.
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be that as it may, eudaman makes some good points. wazzu was playing the coliseum, for goodness’ sake.
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Jesus, is there an echo? We get it, it was at the Coliseum, cool! Wazzu also scored more points this year than we did last year in LA. Whacky!
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It was fantastic."
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Riley
I think we have to stick with Riley the rest of the way. Having him split time last season at QB really undercut his development. Last year should have been the rebuilding year, with Riley developing with the young receiver core. This is his first year starting, so there are going to be growing pains.
He has to play the rest of the season and get his rhythm. It will also help to determine if he is the answer at qb next year. Its tiresome though that with Tedford known as a qb guru, that he hasn’t developed a qb since Rodgers left.
I also don’t think that Jahvid Best is a big game player. These types of players are able to overcome obstacles and make something happen. Our offense was too predictable last night-maybe its time for Tedford to take over the playcalling reins again?
Our offense is still the developing core of our team….I expect us to be a 7-8 win team, with a minor bowl berth in the end.
I can’t believe I’m saying it, but its time to move on from Riley. We do not HAVE to stick with Riley. He’s been in the program for several years and its clear he is not getting anywhere. Tedford would rather have a one legged QB with several losses than Riley, he’d rather go a whole season with a coaches nightmare 2-QB system than just Riley, and he can’t hit a receiver who is the definition of wide open with literally no coverage. That’s it. That gaffe is a low light for the ages. Tedford has a chance to show he learned something from 2007, if he plays a different QB then we can move forward. If Riley is our starting, then we are wasting two seasons (3? counting l last year) and Tedford is back to his stubborn streak in the face of obvious reality. The QB who deserves time, is our next in line. Riley is done.
I agree. We can’t keep losing with starting quarterback Kevin Riley anymore. We need to put in backup quarterback Kevin Riley. Where was that Kevin Riley yesterday??? I didn’t see noted Savior and all around 7th plane saint Backup Quarterback Kevin Riley anywhere.
Take out Riley! Put in Riley!
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Riley’s had two bad games against two of the strongest defenses in the conference. There’s still plenty of time to rectify his issues, gain a better command of the pocket offense, and hopefully settle into a rhythm and groove he could never gain last season. Putting Mansion and Sweeney in there puts up back at square one.
I know Tedford gets criticized for being stubborn, but stubbornness is what we probably need here.
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I disagree. We ARE at square one. Where else are you when you can not even manage to keep the ball in bounds when throwing to an unguarded player. And you said it yourself, he never got it last season so why expect him to get it this season. I don’t want to waste this season, I’d rather get some wins now and set up for next season. I call for the most popular guy on the football team (Every football team -the backup QB)to step up and be put in the game.
I think I’m just angry and want something, anything to be different going forward. If the real Riley will show up for football Saturday’s then great.
I also don’t think that Jahvid Best is a big game player. These types of players are able to overcome obstacles and make something happen.
I think this is an unfair label for Best. Cal’s offense has no balance, every opponent devotes their gameplan and extra safeties to stop the run. You can’t expect any running back to be successful against a 9-man box. Particularly, a 9-man box with players as talented as USC.
Furthermore, I believe Jahvid has overcome obstacles and won games alone (and when I say alone, I mean without the support of a passing game), Miami and Stanford stand out to me.
by chowder on Oct 4, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
You can’t just dump it on Best. For example: People say Reggie Bush was a big-game RB, Bush this, Bush that. Look what he had. He had Lendale White to do all the grunt work. He had Matt Leinart slinging the ball all over the place. He had All-American receivers to boost the passing game. He had an incredible O-Line. He had an even better defense to support the team.
If Best had all that behind him in prime-time, he’d be a ‘big-game’ back too. Best has all the talent in the world, and drive and heart to go with it. But you can’t take the game on your back if there’s nowhere for you to run. The problem isn’t that Best isn’t a big-game back. The problem is that Cal isn’t a big-game team.
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by BearStage on Oct 4, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
I think it’s time to go to Mansion for a game. Seriously. When your coach runs the Wildbear (I hope that’s the name for it) for a whole drive, he’s pretty much telling everyone that we know we can’t throw the ball, we know our quarterback is awful, and we have no other way of trying to even out the numbers in the running game because our quarterback just can’t make the defense play honestly.
What worries me is that if Tedford isn’t even considering this, then Mansion and Sweeney must be really bad.
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Why is it that all of our QB’s suck? I find it sad that I still idolize Rodgers so much, mainly because he was the last decent QB Cal had. Rodgers came out of nowhere and kicked ass, which makes me wonder why all these top recruit QB’s suck so bad. Why can’t we just have ONE decent QB? I mean, this is getting really, really old. Year after year, the QB basically is the main reason for our demise. Blame everything else all you want, but if we had a decent QB these games would all GO differently. We need to start asking why this program has not been able to develop a solid QB post Rodgers. I really would like to know why… TTYL…
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Might play a factor. Not totally giving it this excuse, but I think it definitely plays a factor in QB play.
Rodgers was more than just decent. Aaron Rodgers was legitimately good. If Aaron Rodgers is the standard for merely decent, I think you’ll be disappointed most of the time.
OMG
Obviously you were not able to tell that I was being facetious. Aaron Rodgers was a God! He tied the NCAA record for completions, with 23, against USC no less. I would take a QB half as good as him at this point and be very happy.
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Hey Avi, what’s up? Did you know this is the first time since 1986 that the Bears have gone two games without a touchdown? Has that been discussed here anywhere? I haven’t had time to read all the posts and was just wondering if you knew.
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Yeah, it’s a sad stat, but what can you do. Did Okanes point it out?
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yeah it was okanes. Wonder where he dug that gem up…
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by CaliSeth on Oct 4, 2009 8:18 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions
Nice post.
Our offensive playcalling is way too predictable — that may be because we don’t have as many “dimensions” — as Tedford calls it — as the Trojans, but that’s where playcalling needs to be creative to cover up the lack of talents. Andy Ludwig’s playcalling has not been impressive and I don’t think the “failure to execute” is the only reason we ended up with two straight lopsided losses.
I agree Bob Gregory’s defense has been solid, even though the players are still in the learning phase and there’s a huge room for improvement. Our offense kept them on the field for much of the game, and I think allowing 23 points they allowed ain’t that bad considering the possession time.
As for Kevin Riley… we all said last year it was that Nate and Kevin sharing their time that messed up the consistency in both QB’s performance, but it doesn’t seem to be that case. Like CaliSeth says above, I’d also like to know why all our QBs suck — with quality running backs, we don’t need a decent QB to be a good team, but need a QB that can at least hit wide open receivers when they are there.
But at least we know which team is the real Cal team. I’m likely going to the UCLA game, but I won’t be as frustrated even if we lose, since I won’t be expecting much.
offensive playcalling
I’m looking forward to the breakdown of run/pass by formation on this one. To my mind, you could tell whether the play was a run or a pass just by looking at the formation. It got so ridiculously predictable that Ludwig gave up on trying to mask what he was doing at all on that one wildcat drive. The whole 10 guys in the box thing is really misleading when we only have one receiver split wide—where else WOULD the defense line up?
But I could call plays the other way too. When Cal is on D and they see 3 receivers lined up in a bubble screen formation, why would they only put two guys over there in soft zone coverage? It burned us at Oregon, and USC just took their play and ran it here. Every time USC lined up in that formation and we lined up 2 defenders against 3 receivers, they just took the 20 yards (it happened at least twice in my memory).
I wish we could go back to the pro-style two-back offense, where we used the same formation nearly all the time to run AND pass out of (QB under center too). And I wish that our defense would recognize those obvious bubble screens (though I do give Gregory credit for at least running some man coverage).
While I did notice the screen pass was coming, the flipside of putting another cover man on the wide receivers is that you open up the box for running back penetration. Considering how badly our linebackers were performing, I can understand why Gregory was willing to live with the 8-10 yard gains to the side rather than getting gashed up the middle.
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They were more like 15 yd gains consistently, and you can’t really “live” with those seeing as it only takes 3 or 4 similar games to get into FG range
There was at least one play (in third quarter?) where Syd did a little of neither, and stood 15 yards downfield of first down marker when USC lined up in a screen formation.
Problem is Syd’Quan isn’t very good at getting off the blocks, especially against big blocking receivers. It’s his biggest weakness.
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Do all our defensive backs seem a little smallish?
I remember thinking Oregon’s DBs seemed freakishly huge. Perhaps a facilities issue with regards to available equipment?
wtf are your talking about???
I agree Bob Gregory’s defense has been solid, even though the players are still in the learning phase
First of all, at the Oregon game, Gregory did absolutely NOTHING to adjust at haftime, with no pressure whatsoever on Masoli playing Zone Read offense against a Soft Zone Defense. And, the 3 rcvr bubble, lined up vs. our 2 DB soft zone, was just as evident and predictable with USC, as slaphancock points out below:
When Cal is on D and they see 3 receivers lined up in a bubble screen formation, why would they only put two guys over there in soft zone coverage? It burned us at Oregon, and USC just took their play and ran it here. Every time USC lined up in that formation and we lined up 2 defenders against 3 receivers, they just took the 20 yards (it happened at least twice in my memory).
But all the coaches have to answer to JT…and, he makes the final call, or says nothing. Only HE could make this call:
I think the entire game can be summed up in one play: Tedford ordering the offense to kick a field goal with 12 seconds left in the first half on second down.My two sons and I were booing that call before the missed FG so loudly, two Old Blues behind and above us, yelled angrily at us for booing our Cal Bears. I replied, after the missed 3-pointer, the FG would have done little good, and, besides, there was time for at least one, possible two more passes into the End Zone. My largest son yelled back at the old fan, “We were booing the coaches, not the team, you idiot!”
by The Hombre on Oct 4, 2009 9:43 AM PDT
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NP, at all, ever.
This is not the only site I comment on, but, is by far my favorite. There is more energy, wit, work, analysis, and football info here than anywhere I have found so far. Opinions seem to be valued, if not agreed upon, and that is reason enough to read whatever anyone has to say.
I cannot understand why Twist, or anyone else, should have to scan his or her poetic license for rules of polite conduct. The banter that goes on here between the “founders” is not limited to, or restricted by, them. Anyone is game. We all jump on Carp’s Cheeleader kink, or Rishi’s nites out, or Twist’s analysis of who wrote what peice in which paper, or Avi’s “Why-can’t-we-all-get-along” synopsis of plays.
On the one hand, I appreciate Twist’s candor in apologizing for something I will never read. But, on the other, I am pouting not being able to read what was probably a VERY funny shot.
So, that being said, I will try to slam you, Twist, first chance I get, family included. Sure hope it is in a very funny way….And, thanks for the comment.
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by rollonubears on Oct 4, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions
My health has been deteriorating, come to think of it. I just thought it was something ancient in the refridgerator……
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Yknow, I hold myself to a different standard than others. Because I realize that as a mod I have to have slightly higher standards than others. I rarely, if ever, hide other people’s comments. But I want to do everything in my power to create an atmosphere here that is welcoming for all. I’ve created a relationship with some of the readers here where I can mock the absolute shit out of them and they don’t care. I wasn’t sure if that was the case with you and Ylee was clearly upset, so I didn’t want to tempt the fates.
That said, this is what I wrote:
Clearly, you are raising your children in a classy and dignified manner.
I didn’t think it was all that offensive, but I also value your readership and would never want to do anything that could, in any way, endanger it. I’d rather run off rollonubears than do that. Please let me run off rollonubears. Please.
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Is that you, my AP Euro teacher? Because you are doing a FANTASTIC job, let me tell you.
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by rollonubears on Oct 4, 2009 11:18 PM PDT up reply actions
There’s an AP class on European currency?
by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 5, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions
where I can mock the absolute shit out of them and they don’t care.
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by rollonubears on Oct 4, 2009 11:17 PM PDT up reply actions
I wrote that comment before I finished reading Twist’s post.
Double <3
All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!
by rollonubears on Oct 4, 2009 11:22 PM PDT up reply actions
But I want to do everything in my power to create an atmosphere here that is welcoming for all.
And then you go and wear a funeral suit to Cal-USC. You deserve like ten eons in the seventh level of hell for that monstrosity.
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Jealousy is not a cute color on you.
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Clearly, you are raising your children in a classy and dignified manner.
lol..that was pretty good, considering the timing being off so badly now. On a personal smirk, lemme give you some inside info: my youngest son, who voiced his concern, is a 6’3" twenty-six-yr old, usually loud and alcohol induced from a 3-hour pre-game bar-rally at Henry’s. My only influence on him is to advise him against the bad odds of 80,000-to-1 when he feels like getting physical with opponent fans at road games. At home games, he is on his own.
I am pleased, once again, by Twist’s ink here. Notice the satire and humor even his mea culpa created. Great post, great writers, all.
Bear danger
"Running away can activate the bear's hunting instincts and lead to it perceiving the human as prey. Finally, if a bear does attack, the usual advice is to curl into a [[fetal position]] so as to shield vital organs and appear non-threatening."
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Hey I’m only 2 years and 4 feet off from being your son!
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WRONG!
Hey I’m only 2 years and 4 feet off from being your son!
you have a degree, and don’t smoke cigarettes ( hopefully) He is a bartender, and maturing VERY slowly. …hey, wait a sec….maybe you ARE him!!!
Bear danger
"Running away can activate the bear's hunting instincts and lead to it perceiving the human as prey. Finally, if a bear does attack, the usual advice is to curl into a [[fetal position]] so as to shield vital organs and appear non-threatening."
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Sorry but booing is never acceptable in a college game if you care for your team
I realize that you’re booing the coaches. I myself would’ve loved to boo a whole bunch of people, but I didn’t for the reasons below:
1) No one is going to know that you’re booing the coaches and not the players. Unless you want the stadium announcer to say “FOLKS THE BOOING THAT IS ABOUT TO COMMENCE IS TOWARDS THE COACHES NOT PLAYERS”, then your booing will be taking in the field as towards the players.
2) In that extent if the players feel like they’re booing booed they will deflate and perform worse than they already are. These guys are just 20 year olds. I don’t know your age and I respectfully understand that you’ve seen more than I but I am the same age as Riley, Best and co. I know how I’d feel if someone came up to me and said “BOO YOU SUCK THE CURLY BRACES DON’T GO THERE!”. I wouldn’t be too happy and it WILL affect my performance. Yes it shouldn’t but it does.
3) It creates a hostile environment where no failure is permitted. These aren’t 30 year olds with thick skin. They are 20 year olds. This is just a rehash of point 2.
4) It is detrimental to Cal’s future especially yesterday. Now this only matters if you are a TRUE Cal fan and care for the school. It doesn’t matter if you hate Tedford, hate Riley and want the entire team out of there. If you still care for the Cal football program as a whole you don’t boo. The recruits, when they hear the booing isn’t going to care who it is directed at. They’re going to hear a hostile environment, think to themselves “not only is Cal loosing but their fans are boo-birds. I’m not playing here”. This is detrimental to Cal’s football future.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 4, 2009 9:14 PM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Sorry but booing is never acceptable in a college game if you care for your team
Sorry but my care for Cal and ANY of the Bears athletics goes deeper than a 5-second “Boo”. I have my right shoulder covered with a permanent Cal tatoo…do you?
Our boos were for one and only one time…..not any other time during the game. It was before the snap of one formation, not after a play. We didn’t boo the missed FG. We never boo’d again. I have never boo’d a Cal Player, not Riley, or anyone else, and never will. But, if you don’t think Cal fans boo….dig out some Holmoe tapes. Let me try to go over each of your complaints:
1. If I was the only one booing that FG formation, I may have to try to agree with you. Are you trying to say you heard just me and my two boys, and the others in our section? Do you honestly believe no one knew why fans were booing as the FG team formed on 2nd down with 12 seconds left? Why don’t you ask the players if they would not have wanted to go for a few more TD passes?
2. The Players want to play. Fans booing the formation not allowing them to try is not hurting them; if anything, they know we want them to be allowed a chance.
3. Any “hostil environment” was not caused by the boos, but rather by JT’s decision to not go for it. And, any attitude created by the fans lasted for less than 12 seconds.
4. If you think the recruits who witnessed that debacle were influnced in a negative way by the thousands of boos that FG formation drew, I would argure the score and lack of offense had a mountain more impact…..not to mention the game in Autzen.
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I would never boo Cal, but I do think it was pretty obvious that the booing was for the decision to kick the field goal, and that it was not directed at the players.
I was actually saying Booyoob. It was a residual boo left over from 2005.
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I think we’re dangerously close to slipping in to Smurfs territory where we just start replacing every verb with “boo.”
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It was fantastic."
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rofl
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I didn't boo the field goal attempt
But I didn’t like it and I said grumble-grumble-grumble to my wife instead.
Anyone else notice? Gold jerseys lost for the first time!!!
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Um
I wouldn’t have been happy at all holding USC to “only” 16 points by the fourth quarter. Their offense is mediocre this season, at least by typical standards. The way they were, or should have been, gunning to win this game is in a low-scoring slugfest.
Of course, thanks to the complete collapse of… well, for brevity’s sake let’s just say “everything,” they didn’t have to.
When does basketball season start?
Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving
Worst Tedford Team?
Is this the worst Tedford-coached Cal team we’ve seen? 2007 was a mess, but it had talent. I’m going to say totally prematurely that this will be the worst team Tedford coaches to date—a shame to some of the talent, Thompson and Best, but two stars do not a team make. Will this be the first year we don’t go to a bowl since 2003? Very possibly.
2007 was a mess, but it had talent
The presence of talent would indicate a pretty big failure in coaching, perhaps?
And your prediction is premature. If there are no proper adjustments in coaching style and playcalling the rest of the season, then yes, 2009 probably will be the worst. There were even adjustments in the USC game too, the execution was just lacking that made the final score worse than it was.
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Will this be the first year we don’t go to a bowl since 2003? Very possibly.
Good lord man, don’t buy the farm just yet! .500 teams go to bowl games. Cal will be much better than .500 by the time we’re done. We’ll make a bowl, don’t fret. Don’t act like our team is completely in the crapper, ‘cause they’re not. Measured reactions and cool heads will lead to better times ahead.
CGB: Wasting Your Potential, Your Time, & Your Life Since 2006.
You can be bowl-eligible but not go to a bowl.
by BerkeleyChris on Oct 4, 2009 4:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, if you are SJSU. If Cal is 6-6 they are going to a bowl, no question.
All aboard the Jahvid Best rickshaw!
Great. These post game threads are becoming BearInsider lite.
Shoot me.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 4, 2009 12:15 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
Someone bring an extra gun.
For me, that is. Ugh.
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Hey now, let's not be wasteful!
We’ll just bring extra ammo and use the same gun.
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Dude not only did you miss shotgunning with Rishi and everyone else, Cal lost!
In other words, Go Bears!
I waited for like half an hour for Rishi, remember? Clearly he was too afraid to shotgun with me.
dboneisloose
I think it is fitting I just watched the Grey’s Anatomy 2 hour season premiere revolving around loss and grief.
Man you had to watch that on tape delay too?
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by Avinash on Oct 4, 2009 2:55 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I met some americans on Tuesday and agreed to watch some football games yesterday. I didn’t want to back out, as I’d like to have more friends than just my girlfriend. Fortunately, my Dad warned me of the score and Riley before I took off, and was able to mildly numb the pain with alcohol. Of greater help is that I watched the game with a Colorado alum, and some dude from Toronto so we were able to console each other in mutual football misery.
It was, in fact, a trick question – Coventry City have never won the English Football Cup.
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also, funny fact – Coventry City actually won the FA Cup in 1987!
lol
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While I hate to give any love to USC,
I love, love, LOVE the playaction play where Barkley (and Sanchez, man he ran it well) rolls out and has that comeback on the sideline. That KILLED us last year and it hurt us again this year. Why can’t we run that :(
Because your quarterback has to be able to execute a fake, roll, and then hit an open receiver from about 10 yards away. Waaaay too risky. You talkin’ loco, man.
Riley is good at about 2/3rds of that. The other third, however.
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His fakes aren’t so hot…
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What are you talking about? He successfully executed our season
by BerkeleyChris on Oct 4, 2009 6:41 PM PDT up reply actions 8 recs
well done
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 4, 2009 11:40 PM PDT up reply actions
My thoughts
Sorry if these are incoherent. I chose not to be a silly liberal arts major for a reason. Viva l’Informatique!
1) Full kudos to everyone who stayed there ’till 0:00. I saw rags, Twist (in his double-breasted suit) and yellow fever were there ’till the end. But so were most of the student section and a significant majority of the stadium. In fact I was thrilled to see that the stadium was mostly full ’till the last incomplete Riley pass.
2) The word INCOMPLETE must have been used a record number of times last night thanks to both Riley and Barkley. Also I must have heard the phrase “RILEY’S PASS INTENDED FOR [RECEIVER]… INCOMPLETE” way too many times.
3) This game was a funny game. On one hand I didn’t care too much about the outcome but on the other hand this is where the bubble burst for me. I’m the type of person that will be eternally optimistic for no reason what so ever. Even during our tumble in 2007 while I was angry at the team I kept hoping beyond all belief that we’d win. I had that feeling during half or even three quarters of the Oregon game last week. But then yesterday after about a quarter for some reason I knew we’d lose in my head and my heart (which never sees a Cal loss until it actually happens). I must have become jaded.
4) I’m not smart enough to decide what is to make of this team but I just don’t get the feeling that we’re all that talented. Or at least a refined, well oiled machine that Pac-10 teams like USC or hell even Stanfurd are. Sure we have a couple of stars in Best, SQT, Vereen (maybe), Alualu, Cam Jordan and Anger but the rest of the team isn’t performing at a level that is needed for us to win. I don’t know why or even who to blame but we don’t look like a team with seniors and juniors with game experience. This looks like a young, inexperienced team. And worst of all what I noticed was that these guys were trying hard (unlike what I saw sometimes at Oregon) all the way to the end but just couldn’t get it done because the Trojans were much better. This isn’t what I saw last year in the Coliseum. What made it so different. Was Follet, Williams and Felder THAT important? Last year it felt like maybe the Trojans had an edge on Cal but Cal wouldn’t go down without almost taking USC with them. This year it looked like a 12 year old kid fighting an 18 year old. While the kid is able to land some blows and maybe even scratch of some skin with tough fighting but the result wasn’t in doubt.
5) I don’t know what to expect going forward. While we might still be able to make a bowl game (2007 anyone?), I can just as easily see Cal’s first non-bowl season since 2002. We have UCLA on the road and their defense is scary and our O-line is scarily not good. Then we get Wazzu at home. I think we might pencil this in as a victory but they did better against USC than we did. And then we go to ASU who almost beat Georgia on the road. Their defense is nasty and I fear for Tepper and co. This is followed by OSU and Arizona at home and both of these teams are a shell of their former (read: last year) selves. If we fight tough I think we can pull this off but there’s no guarantee. And lastly we have two road games in Palo Alto and Seattle. I fear that we might lose the Axe this year.
6) As a fan I have to distance myself from the team. I kept thinking the past week that because I did something, Cal beat Maryland so maybe I have to keep doing this and stop doing something else because that led to a loss against Oregon. I know that superstitions are part of the game, but this is stupid. I have absolutely no control over the outcome of any games and neither does anyone else here.
7) While I disagree with the booing, what was up with that FG with 12 seconds left? Sure if we had botched it we could get another try. But does 3 points really matter at that point? I wanted us to try for 6 on all four downs.
8) I think we should stick with Riley for at least a couple more games. I know the whole wind factor was brought up but I was pretty low in the stands and I didn’t feel strong wind. Perhaps Riley’s throws were so screwy that even slight wind took it way of course. Speaking of Riley, this was quite possibly his worst game. What happened to the accurate and confident Riley that played against OSU in 2007 (with a legit defense) and Air Force in 2007? I think it might have to do with the fact that that team had Jackson, the amazing flying Hawkins, Jordan, Forsett, etc. Riley knew he could throw it somewhere around them and they’d catch it. This is not true of the current WR corps. Maybe he always sucked and those guys just bailed him out or maybe his confidence is whack now that the WRs aren’t as good. I don’t know. But I do think we should stick with Riley for a couple more games because at this point Sweeney or Mansion are not better than him and perhaps are worse then him.
9) I fear for our recruiting this year. Hopefully it didn’t take a big hit. I’m hoping that the recruits saw the game and thought to themselves “hey maybe when I play for the blue and gold I can help them kick some diry Trojan ass!”. Ah silly optimism.
10) The CGB tailgate was fun. Thanks for holding it guys!
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 4, 2009 9:52 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
with regards to your point #8, be that as it may that the WR corps we currently have are nowhere near the likes of djax/hawk/rojo, the fact remains that riley consistently overthrows his receivers, whether they run good routes or not. i think riley’s horrific clusterfuck of a throw to vereen when the SC defense didn’t account for him shows just how much he has issues with his accuracy right now.
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We have UCLA on the road and their defense is scary and our O-line is scarily not good.
I don’t think that’s accurate. Riley’s pass pro on Saturday game was better than serviceable and the run blocking was decent if completely unable to cope with being outnumbered and out-athleted in the box. The offensive line unit that showed up to Autzen was terrible, the one in Berkeley was merely unable to carry the offense.
Then we get Wazzu at home. I think we might pencil this in as a victory but they did better against USC than we did.
Against the second string with Barkley throwing a minimum of passes.
And then we go to ASU who almost beat Georgia on the road. Their defense is nasty and I fear for Tepper and co.
Beating Georgia would be an achievement of dubious merit, almost beating Georgia is just nothing to write home about. They’re not a very good team. Neither is Arizona State, judging by how they got worked at home by a previously lackluster Oregon State team.
All of my predictions this season have been wrong so I ain’t sayin’ shit, but let’s not make our opponents out to be better than they’ve actually shown themselves to be.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Well something I forgot to mention.
Almost always it seems to me that Cal faces an opponent who has a serious flaw somewhere (Masoli’s passing, USC’s lackluster defense, etc) and it ends up biting us in the ass because the team somehow becomes much improved just in time for Cal.
In other words, Go Bears!
Hence: why all my predictions so far this season have been wrong.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
Things I learned
No wonder Tedford stuck with Longshore….pres-season ratings are generally garbage…there a re a bunch of Cal fans that need to stay in a coffee shop discussing Focault…Maryland really sucks, and Minnesota isn’t much better. Wake-up call.
I’m no football coach, and I will generally trust a guy that takes a 1-10 team and goes 7-5 the following season. Maybe we just don’t have a consistent QB yet, and there’s not much we can do about it now, so therefore I won’t be mooing from the stands like the jackals behind me were…criticize on a blog if you want to, but it’s football, not political science class – down by 20 is not the time to start booing…
Best odds before the half were to go with a field goal – what were we going to do, keep throwing it? That wasn’t working…Screen? Rollout and throw another pick, possibly returned for a TD? Best decsion imho was to try and kick it.
It will take time for Riely to deal with the head-stuff playing the big boys in this league…he might never be able to swing it – the majority of QB’s in college don’t.
It seems to me that to play in the Rose Bowl, you need an NFL-bound QB, not just a star RB and/or one great CB. We don’t have that now. Prolly not next year either. Wait for Bridgeford, unless Sweeney and Manison have somehting we haven’t seen.
Oh yeah, the fall of Hagan got noticed by USC as well, HIll got picked apart…























