DBD 10.28.09 If that overturned Safeway truck wasn't enough!
Now, the Bridge itself is falling apart! For those who normally commute over the Bay Bridge, this seems like a truly disastrous situation. The latest is that it could take days to fix this newest problem.

via imgs.sfgate.com
Ugh. This is the suckiest suck to ever suck.
On a lighter note, Jahvid Best is going to do an ESPN chat today:
BERKELEY - Cal TB Jahvid Best will chat live on ESPN.com's SportsNation! this Wednesday. Best will answer questions from college football fans across the nation during the session beginning at 12:30 p.m. PT.
Best has racked up 775 rushing yards on 114 carries (6.8 ypr) over the Golden Bears' first seven games in 2009 to rank third in the Pac-10 and No. 13 nationally in rushing. He is also tied for third in the nation in scoring with his average of 12.0 points per game on 14 touchdowns (11 rushing, 3 receiving) with his 11 scores on the ground four shy of the school-record 15 he equaled in 2008. His 2009 campaign has been highlighted by five 100-yard games and a modern-era school-record five rushing touchdowns at Minnesota.
Best is among Cal's all-time leaders in rushing touchdowns (28, No. 4), 100-yard rushing games (13, No. 6), all-purpose running yardage (3,896, No. 6), rushing yardage (2,576, No. 8) and scoring (198, No. 9).
Cal (5-2, 2-2 Pac-10) will travel to Arizona State (4-3, 2-2 Pac-10) for a game at Sun Devil Stadium to be televised by ABC this Saturday, Oct. 31 (12:30 p.m. PT). The Golden Bears return home to Memorial Stadium to face Oregon State on Saturday, Nov. 7 (4:00 p.m. PT). The contest will be nationally televised by Fox Sports Net and air locally on Comcast SportsNet Bay Area.
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VBall player receives national honor:
LEXINGTON, Ky. – California volleyball senior outside hitter Hana Cutura has been named the Sports Imports/AVCA Division I National Player of the Week. This is Cutura’s first national player of the week award and the fourth time a Golden Bear has been selected for the honor. The two-time AVCA All-American was also selected as the Pac-10 Conference Player of the Week for the first time in her illustrious career earlier this week (Oct. 26).
Cutura led the Bears to their third consecutive victory as they defeated No. 16 Arizona, 3-1, and Arizona State, 3-0. Cutura had a career-high 31 kills against the Wildcats as she committed just one error on 47 attacks to post an astronomical .638 attack percentage. She also recorded her sixth double-double of the season with 11 digs and had Cal’s only solo block of the night. She followed up with a 21-kill performance in just three sets against the Sun Devils. She registered those 21 kills on just 32 attacks (three errors) to put up a .562 attack percentage as the Bears enjoyed their most efficient offensive outing of the season (.426 attack rate, 49k, 101att). She also added seven digs and three blocks.
On the weekend, Cutura averaged 7.43 kills in each set and attacked at a .608 rate (52 kills, four errors, 79 attacks) to go with 2.57 digs per set. She scored 54.5 points to average 7.79 pps. Cutura also surpassed fellow Cal All-American outside hitter Angie Pressey to move into third place on the all-time career kills list with 1,736. For the season, Cutura leads the Pac-10 in kills (5.07 kps) and points (5.58 pps). In addition, her marks in kills and points rank third and fourth in the NCAA, respectively.
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Field hockey player receives honor:
BERKELEY – Redshirt freshman Megan Shimojima won NorPac Offensive Player of the Week honors, as announced by the conference on Tuesday. This is Cal’s eighth conference weekly award this season.
Shimojima scored twice, including the game-winning goal in Cal’s 5-3 victory at UC Davis last Sunday in the regular-season finale. Shimojima tallied both of her goals in the second half. With Cal leading 3-1, she notched her first goal in the 57th minute. She took a pass from Natalie Nurnberg and beat the Aggie goalkeeper up close in front of the cage. That score proved to be the gamewinner. After UC Davis cut the Cal lead to 4-2, Shimojima put the game out of reach with her second goal in the 65th minute. The goals were the third and the fourth of the season for Shimojima, and she now has nine points.
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Q+A with Women’s Soccer player:
BERKELEY – This weekend’s games against Arizona (Friday, Oct. 30 at 2:30 p.m.) and Arizona State (Sunday, Nov. 1 at 1 p.m.) are the final home games of the 2009 regular season and the final home games for the squad’s six seniors. This week, CalBears.com will be running a Q&A with each of the team’s six seniors – goalkeeper Rosie Aguilera, defender Brianna Bak, forward Torrey Delaplane, forward Lisa Kevorkian, midfielder Katie Oakes and goalkeeper Gina Pellegrini. CalBears.com had a chance to discuss the seniors’ years in Berkeley and what being a part of the Cal women’s soccer program has meant to them, and today’s participant is Lisa Kevorkian.
Redshirt junior Lisa Kevorkian, who is earning a degree in mass communications, is in her fourth year as a member of the Golden Bear women’s soccer team. This season, Kevorkian has three game-winning goals and five scores and two assists for a team-second 12 points. In 2008, she returned from a knee injury with a vengeance to lead the team with three game-winning goals and was second with 13 points, six goals and 16 shots on goal. She was named to the 2008 Pac-10 Conference’s All-Academic Second Team and was a co-recipient of the 2007 Golden Bear Award.
CalBears.com: What is your best Cal story or favorite Cal experience?
Lisa Kevorkian: That’s like asking “What’s your favorite song?” There’s no way I could choose just one. I had a lot of great times with the old Pink House girls though.
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Mens tennis player fell to Stanford player:
BERKELEY – No. 42-ranked California men’s tennis junior Pedro Zerbini fell, 7-5, 6-3, to No. 15-ranked Bradley Klahn of Stanford in the singles championship match of the 2009 Wilson/ITA Northwest Regional Championship Tuesday, Oct. 27, at the Hellman Tennis Complex. The Golden Bears earned the tournament’s team trophy as Cal players posted the most singles and doubles victories throughout the five-day event.
The pair opened the first set on serve through the first four games but Zerbini earned the first break in the fifth as Klahn’s cross-court shot went wide. Unfazed, Klahn broke back to even the score with a cross-court shot that stayed in as Zerbini charged the net. Zerbini answered once more to go up, 4-3, as he broke the Stanford serve for a second consecutive time but Klahn fought back once more to even things at four-all. Klahn held serve once more and went up, 40-15, in the 10th game but Zerbini fought off four set-points to tie the set at five games each. Klahn turned to his serve to stay on top as a service ace earned him a 6-5 lead. Zerbini served the 12th game but fell behind early to allow Klahn to claim a 7-5 win in the first set.
Klahn earned the first break of the second set to lead, 3-1, before serving out the fifth game for a 4-1 lead as he put a ball out of Zerbini’s reach down the line. Zerbini maintained his poise and served his way to a win in the sixth game as he crushed a service ace down the center of the court to earn game-point. Klahn held up once more to go up, 5-2, before Zerbini won his serve to send the set to a ninth game. One more time, Klahn held fast to earn the final game of the match for a 7-5, 6-3 win.
Klahn becomes the third consecutive Stanford player to win the men’s ITA Northwest Regional singles title following Alex Clayton (2008) and Richard Wire (2007). As part of the top-seeded and No. 8-ranked doubles team with Clayton, Klahn also took home the doubles title with an 8-3 victory against Mirko Zapletal and Taylor Leiby of Fresno State.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 7:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I think you could have just reused yesterday’s DBD title for today’s topic. DBD 10.28.09: Oh Snap!
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 7:59 AM PDT reply actions 2 recs
LOL!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Oct 28, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
LOL!
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 9:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HAHAHAHAHA………..i mean LOL!
At CGB, we whine because we care
by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually unrec’d Rags’ comment. It was funny, but by actually naming the dbd, he hurt the joke. Subtlety would have been better.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are you talking about?
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rags’ comment read:
I think you could have just reused yesterday’s DBD title for today’s topic. DBD 10.28.09: Oh Snap!
It should have read:
I think you could have just reused yesterday’s DBD title for today’s topic.DBD 10.28.09: Oh Snap!
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It did hurt the joke a little, but since most people forgot the name of yesterday’s DBD already, I figured that them having to go back and find what the name was would throw the timing off, thus hurting the joke more. It was a considered decision.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna have to go with Rags here. I wouldn’t have remembered the title without his reminder
STAY THIRSTY, MY FRIENDS
by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh Snap!
Cal Football: It could happen!
by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOU’RE PRIOR TO THE SNAP!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t you even start with me. I thought we were trying to eliminate sassmouth by 33% on this blog.
Cal Football: It could happen!
by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, let’s start with reduction targets we actually have a hope of reaching, m’kay?
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We reached that by breakfast…
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 2:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but only because Twist left.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you reduce 1 by 10%?
Cal Football: It could happen!
by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 2:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
umm… we get .9 females to read. duh
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lose US readership, get Canadian readership?
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 28, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shave her head.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s, by far, the least painful way to accomplish Ragnarok’s goals.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 3:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps you’re correct and I am overestimating the ability of readers to move their eyes to the right.
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Way too lazy for that shit. Are you crazy?
STAY THIRSTY, MY FRIENDS
by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re all Berkeley leftists, to be fair.
by sec119 on Oct 28, 2009 2:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CGB: We are famed for our subtlety!
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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 9:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget to click on the Andre Agassi/crystal meth story on the right sidebar——————————————————>
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 8:23 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
So, umm, ASU’s run d is pretty good?
“You don’t rip off big runs against these guys,” Tedford said. “You have to stay patient. … They’re physical and they’re fast.”
Tedford stays classy:
“I think we all understand these are some hard times economically,” Tedford said. “We’re going to do whatever we can as a program to do our part to help alleviate that.”
ASU fans are not:
“Their fans are ruthless,” Tepper said. “They have no problem saying stuff to your face.”
Any and all single peeps need to buy a Southwest flight to Fenix RTFN.
Don’t laugh, but Cal’s 24th in the BCS rankings.
Harbaugh calls Luck best QB in the country.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 8:29 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
BCS rankings
Don’t laugh, but Cal’s 24th in the BCS rankings.
This also works with “Don’t cry.”
by sec119 on Oct 28, 2009 8:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve never been so glad that BCS standings don’t take MOV into account.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 9:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Regardless, I just don’t see a path for Cal to sneak into the BCS. It would require either Oregon or USC completely tanking without dragging Cal’s own ranking down, and I just don’t see it.
Decker getting injured doesn’t help either.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would require A) Cal winning out B) Oregon dropping 2 games and maybe C) TCU losing to Utah.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’re going to have to win out either way:
Oregon beats USC, gets a horrible injury and loses 3 Pac-10 games. And USC loses one more game on the schedule (Outright Pac-10 championship for Bears)
USC wins out and gets to Nat’l Championship… Oregon loses 2 more games after loss to USC, and Cal’s SOS and good computer ranking allow BCS selection (iirc the boise state thing doesn’t kick in til 2010-2011, right?).
STAY THIRSTY, MY FRIENDS
by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I didn’t mean it in that sense. At least we have SOME ranking (for now).
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 1:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let us all take this moment to remember The Pain Train getting revenge for ASU fans lack of class. Let us also remember the funniest part of that play – Rulon turning to the offensive lineman blocking him to let him know “Your quarterback just died.”
by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I always thought it was Rulon, but upon looking it up, you are correct, sir.
by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any and all single peeps need to buy a Southwest flight to Fenix RTFN.
I’m trying to imagine Arizona State on Halloween night. Imagination fail.
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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 9:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To Jim Harbaugh
Dear Jim,
Your young QB has been good. Maybe not enthusiasm unknown to mankind good, but I’m sure you’re happy with him. I must correct you, however. This…

is NOT its own country.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
If it was, Gilroy would definitely be the Capital City!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And the Garlic Festival would be a national holiday.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Garlic would be our national animal!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not so fast
Guv’s playin’ dirty with state parks. He needs to be falcon punched.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 8:31 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
He needs to be falcon Blount punched.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 9:25 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
by GoldBlooded on Oct 28, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tedford on USC-Oregon (Wilner thinks Tedford thinks Oregon will win):
* Got the distinct sense that Jeff Tedford thinks Oregon could take down the Trojans. He did not say it, but based on his quick assessment on the Pac-10 teleconference call Tuesday, it sure seems like he thinks the Trojans will have their hands full:
"It’ll be very interesting. The way Oregon spreads the field it’s difficult to defend … Obviously, ‘SC has great talent on defense, and a lot of team speed. It’ll be an interesting matchup.
"I think Oregon defensively matches up favorably. I think they’re a little under-rated … They have exceptional team speed on defense."
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 8:32 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
SQT's status
The same blog post by Wilner also said this:
Tedford on cornerback Syd’Quan Thompson’s status: "Syd is touch and go. He’s not 100 percent. He didn’t practice last week and I don’t know of he’ll practice today. He’s got a hip problem that continues to bother him, but he felt better on Sunday than he did last Sunday, so that is encouraging. So we’ll just have to take it day to day."
YO’s Tuesday night report says this:
During the first part of practice that I was able to watch, cornerback Syd’Quan Thompson was practicing without limitation. Tedford had said during the press luncheon that he didn’t expect Thompson to practice as he continues to monitor his back bruise. Thompson may not have participated in other drills but the fact that he wasn’t in a yellow or red jersey is a good sign.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m also concerned with D.Hill’s sprained shoulder. He’s been very effective in the middle this season.
by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does anyone else think that biology is just a well-ordered collection of chemicals? Me too. Now fork over the oxy.
But in San Diego County exists a tribe whose ants attack each other, and it was there, Tsutsui said, that two post-doctoral researchers in his laboratory, Miriam Brandt and Ellen van Wilgenburg, collected samples to remove the wax-like chemicals that cover the insects’ skins.
Those hydrocarbons, the group reasoned, act like pheromones, the airborne substances that serve as chemical signals for acts like mating, aggression and food-finding among other insects, as well as vertebrate animals and perhaps even humans.
Chemists at UC Irvine analyzed the chemicals from the San Diego ants and synthesized them so the Berkeley postdocs could apply them to the skins of peaceable ants collected from the same California “super colony” but living as far away as Cottonwood (Shasta County).
Tsutsui’s team found that the same synthetic compounds “trigger aggression among normally amicable nestmates.” A mixture of five different synthetic hydrocarbons greatly increased the attack rate among the normally benign insects, the group discovered.
For their long, difficult and expensive laboratory experiments combining biology and chemistry, the team maintained ants from five different and sometimes genetically identical colonies in California, feeding them three times a week on a diet of sugar water, protein solution and scrambled eggs.
It took the scientists nearly 2,000 separate and carefully controlled trials in the worker ants to establish that their synthetic chemical mixture produced the aggressive behavior, they reported.
Scientists have long known that “chemical signaling” is especially powerful as a means of communication among many insects, and particularly among ants that live in colonies and use the chemicals to recognize each other and their enemies.
But the language of those signals has been a total mystery until Tsutsui’s group painstakingly deciphered the complex “cuticular hydrocarbons” from the skins of the ants and showed their power in transforming a species of peace-loving ants into attackers.
Here’s the nerd-link for those that have subscription access to the journal. Actually, I see an “Open Access” thingin the upper right, so it might be free for all (PDF!)
http://www.biomedcentral.com/content/pdf/1741-7007-7-71.pdf
They weren’t kiddin’. Those are long hydrocarbon chains (see Figs 1 & 2).
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--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 8:43 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Almost all Argentine ants in California belong to a genetically distinct group of the species whose members are cooperative and social and form one huge “super colony” that extends from Oregon to San Diego, Tsutsui and Fisher said in interviews.
Screw Skynet, my new post-apocalyptic nightmare is this ‘super colony’ of ants.
by sec119 on Oct 28, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only there was a relevant ant-related Simpsons joke here!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 8:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Oct 28, 2009 6:31 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
well done
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 11:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the US Super Colony is part of the global super colony that has family in Japan, Southern Europe and the West Coast of the US
by LeonPowe on Oct 28, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only there was a really relevant ant-related Simpsons joke here!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I can’t really think of one. But how about those inanimate carbon rods?
by LeonPowe on Oct 28, 2009 9:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they’re about to show close ups of the rod!!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 9:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I, for one, welcome our new ant overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted CGB personality, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in their underground sugar caves.
Cal Football: It could happen!
by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 9:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

Dude, you said the joke out loud. You are suppose to imply it!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 9:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imply or implode?
Cal Football: It could happen!
by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mom, make him stop!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m a stupid moron with an ugly face and a big butt and my butt smells …annd I like to kiss my own butt.
Cal Football: It could happen!
by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
you’re funnier than usual today.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is good news for U.C. Irvine. (Joke is implied, not said out loud.)
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed, I am sure their chemists enjoyed the extra work.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 28, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha…they have a very respectable chemistry program for the status of UC Irvine. No, it’s not Cal or Stanfurd but it’s a better than 7 Pac10 schools.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never realized anteaters were so fierce.
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
*breaks out amonia and water spray bottle*
ants make me crazy.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Oct 28, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
a bit surprising given your relationship to their tundra.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it can be hard to look at the dirt
when it’s crawling with ants.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Oct 28, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t a basketball scrimmage happen yesterday or something? Why isn’t it mentioned anywhere? Am I missing something (or maybe I don’t know what I’m talking about…?)
by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
You certainly are missing something… you’re Missing Barry!
(rimshot)
(gets booed off the stage)
Go Bruins!
by Harsha on Oct 28, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here is something. We’ll have more soon.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just wondering… did you attempt to find something yourself? Google, other blogs, JO’s site? If you had, would you have linked it here for the rest of us to read?
by danzig on Oct 28, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farudo has an account of the game, scroll down.
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
CBKWit and I attended. I took some pictures and some video, he took notes. I haven’t gone through to see if I took anything worth posting, but I hope to have something up tomorrow-ish.
Also, the 12th Wheel of Time book came out yesterday, so I’m even less likely to do anything tonight besides sit in a comfy chair and read.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 controversy
(spoilers about opening scene abound!)
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There was a video leaked from the French edition that showed the opening scene. Most of the videos have been taken offline but it might still be here.
Basically in this mission you are a CIA agent that’s undercover with a group of terrorists. The level starts off with you and the terrorists stepping off an elevator into an airport and then opening fire on the civilians. You as the player do not have to shoot them down but you can (and the person in the video does). Now this isn’t like killing civilians in GTA4. These civilians, realistically modeled, actually panic, cower in fear, try to help their friends and you walk through all their dead bodies clutching their suitcases or their friends and family with all their blood on the floor.
It’s very disturbing IMO.
ActivisionBlizzard commented saying that this level is skippable and it is preceded by a warning that might be disturbing. Plus they contend that since it is rated M it’s only for those 18+ (that’s false, M is for 17+).
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 10:02 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Just another thing for mainstream media to make a big deal over.
It’s really no different from killing a ton of civies on the streets in any GTA game, it’s just in the first person perspective.
Won’t change the fact that I bought this game over Steam and will be playing it day one. However, it will need to challenge Left 4 Dead 2 for my GOTY.
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by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watch the video. It’s different from GTA. It’s the actions of the civilians that make it disturbing.
As for buying it, since ActiLizzard removed support for dedicated servers and is focusing the game on the 360 rather than where their roots lie (i.e the PC), I’m boycotting the game (including thousands of others). I know it’s not going to make a bit of difference but it’s no fun w/o dedicated servers. I hate pubs
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me get this straight…
You’re boycotting the game…BECAUSE OF THE SERVERS?

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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
No I boycott because they are consolizing it. Enough pandering to the 360/PS3. I want true PC games.
And the lack of dedicated servers is a big hit to us PC gamers.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 10:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disturbing terrorist attack….console wars…disturbing terrorist attack..console wars…

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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 11:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two different issues
Stop being a dick.
I posted this to point out the controversy as a “hey have you guys heard about this?”. And then I responded to Swamphunter that I won’t be getting it anyway for such and such reason. Different issue.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just find it funny how serious people take XBox/PS3/Wii/PC console wars, as if it matters which platform you play the game on.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does. Playing a game on a console is a completely different experience from playing it on a PC.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
as someone who is to old to
have played much video games….i’ll take your word for it.
and care as much as i did before.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true, although the console wars themselves (XBox/Wii/PS3 which is best???) seems silly on its own.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that
I was never a fan of the wars itself (although I admit to being, and still am, a big Nintendo fanboy). I hate it when people hate on other consoles as I see all serving a unique value.
I just don’t like it when a property that was made famous on the PC and that works best on a PC being given the 360 treatment. It just ruins it for us PC gamers.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:26 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You might facepalm that one, but it really has people annoyed. A non insignificant number of preorder cancellations have come in response.
by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At the end of the video… was that him getting double crossed by his muslim brothers? So after he helps kill about 60 unarmed civilians, and just as he’s about to get onto the escape van… they turn on him and cap him in the head and then drive off? I’m not sure if that’s what happened… it wasn’t that clear in teh vid.
Second.. WTF?! Isn’t this precisely the sort of terrorist attack he went undercover to PREVENT? What the hell was he holding out for? If it was for nukes… then shouldn’t he still lose the mission by shooting civilians? Wasn’t the point to act like one of them but not be one of them? The main mission parameter could have easily been… “convince your cohorts that you mean business, but don’t actually kill anyone,” etc..? The game design makes no sense. The only way it does make sense is if it was designed specifically to cater to the Arab world…. which knowing Activision is highly unlikely.
by danzig on Oct 28, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep that’s the problem I have with it. Artistically I’m not going to argue with how it was portrayed because it’s well done. But it just doesn’t make fucking sense, and I personally find it disturbing.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I makes no goddamn sense. Activision says that you can skip this level… meaning your CIA cover is NOT blown if you don’t shoot the civilians. Sooooo what was the point of that mission? Why was it there?
The parts where you shoot civilians trying to carry off other wounded civilians is pretty fucked up. I mean, I have no sensitivities of any kind to violence but that level didn’t seem like fun to me.
Wouldn’t the level design have been better if you get out of the elevator, then cap the guy in front… they turn on you… you duck for cover and start a gun fight in the airport where you try to save as many civilians as possible? Just from a business perspective, isn’t that a more fun gaming experience? Makes no sense unless it was designed for the EMEA market… and even then I"m not sure if it would sell all that much.
by danzig on Oct 28, 2009 11:07 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. I’m hesitant to make grand conclusions from that crappy video especially seeing as how I don’t know the setup the level but it doesn’t look good.
The parts where you shoot civilians trying to carry off other wounded civilians is pretty fucked up. I mean, I have no sensitivities of any kind to violence but that level didn’t seem like fun to me.
That’s exactly my problem. There are people comparing this to GTA but that either because a) you didn’t watch the video or b) lack empathy.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can’t watch videos at work. How is shooting civilians in one game different from shooting civilians in another game, other than the level of realism?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s just it. The level of realism and the way it’s done. You have a lady injured but holding what I assume is her husband who is near death and both are covered in blood from many others. She has a look of horror on her face when she sees you and tries to get away. You calmly shoot her and the person she was saving, step over their bodies, leave your footprints on their blood as you find others to shoot.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So…why is that inherently a bad thing? If you saw the same thing in a movie, you would call it good acting. The only difference is that you’re acting out the part instead of watching it.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would call it good acting and I call this great game design. In other words it’s a brilliant in how it evokes the emotion.
It’s just that I find the subject matter disturbing. And adding in that for a first person game it’s almost as if you’re doing this.
I should clarify that I don’t think ActiLizzard should actually remove the content but just that I’m uncomfortable with it and I find it stupid.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can appreciate that you personally might not be comfortable with it, just like some people aren’t comfortable with violent movies, but what’s stupid about it?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read danzig’s reply above he describes it better than I can
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because you control it and have a say in what happens?!
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the level is there for two things:
One: Set up a back story for the main baddie Makarov (also the bad guys in this game are Russian, not Arab FYI).
Two: Infinity Ward is looking to try and make this game as much as a movie as possible, that has always been their trademark when making Call of Duty games. They are one of the devs out there that are trying to push video games into the “as art” category, and in doing so, they decide to add a level that has you playing on the side of the bad guys (not as a bad guy, but an undercover one). Don’t forget that the last trailer released for the game showed that there was some sort of disaster in Washington DC, so they are looking to hit all the bases with Modern Warfare 2. They hit on a few in the first MW as they killed off the American character midway through the game in a Nuclear Explosion, so they’re just going the next step in the next game.
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by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, they are definitely blurring the lines between playable game and cutscenes, which I think is a good thing. In addition to the nuke in Modern Warfare, the ending scene comes to mind as an example of that.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chewbacca is from the planet Kashyyk...
Yet he hangs out with Ewoks on the moon of Endor

This does not make sense
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by oskisunbear on Oct 28, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
You know, there is a game out there where you play a Palestinian terrorist freedom fighter and kill Israeli civilians army. Quite disturbing.
As to your main point, well, on a micro scale, I saw a movie a long time ago (one of my favourites) called Chhal (Hindi film), about a cop that goes undercover into a gang and the cops don’t know who he is (kinda a Departed sort of situation). The question is brought up “What do I do if I’m confronted by a cop?” Interestingly enough, the film never answers that.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw a Hindi movie (with my parents) that was something like that… Company?
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Company is a little similar, but talks about the rise of a gangster. Awesome movie, though.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The correct answer wasn’t stop and go into the muscial number?
by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This was actually one of the grittiest Hindi films I’d seen in a while, before it became popular to make them.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
More grity than Kuch Kuch Jota Hay (PS Done TOADS by memory, prolly not even close)?
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kuch Kuch Hota Hai. One of the half-a-dozen Hindi movies I have ever watched. I think Rishi is going to disbar me from being Indian for saying that.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, I was reasonably close. I WAS REASONABLY CLOSE!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You want a cookie or something?
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps a chapati would be more appropriate.
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A chapal is all he deserves!
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I watched very few Hindi movies. Mainly because I can’t understand them. Let’s see: one movie I saw when I was in India. Mid 90s. Supposedly a comedy. Lagaan. Munna Bhai MMBS. Company. Dhoom. That ET rip off Krish. And a couple of others.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lagaan could have been good but it was SO FUCKING LONG.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally enjoyed the length and consider Lagaan one of my favourites of all time.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TWSS
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
by GoldBlooded on Oct 28, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOW THE HELL DOES THAT MAKE SENSE?!
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A series of mocapped animations set specifically to react when another NPC is killed makes it more disturbing than GTA?
Okay then. It doesn’t change the fact that both are video games and the people you are killing are not real people at all.
And I’m having fun poking at the missing dedicated servers myself, but I don’t see it as a big enough reason to not buy the game at all.
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~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know it’s not real. But it’s the emotion that it evokes. And like danzig mentions, it makes no sense
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
On paper it’s the same as GTA. I know from a business perspective, it makes perfect sense to create controversy and get free advertising.
BUT… in light of the recent Mumbai attacks this, most certainly, is different from GTA. Imagine Microsoft Simulator coming out with a mission where you can hijack a plane and fly it in to the Twin Towers a year after 9/11… it’s more disturbing. Can I explain why exactly it’s different than killing nameless avatars in fictional NYC? No… I can’t explain that. It just is… ask anyone that lives in Mumbai.
Secondly, for me I play FPS to feel like a total badass… you kill countless enemies that are hard to kill and they shoot back. It looks realistic so you feel like you really frickn rock. This level made me feel like a pussy. It was too easy and it served no purpose to drive the story.
There’s no logic to why this is diff from GTA… it just is.
by danzig on Oct 28, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also this type of attack did actually happen at the Rome and Vienna airports on December 27, 1985.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In regards of the 9/11 simulation, too late for that. There are tons of user-made “simulations” that have the player able to recreate 9/11 on their computer or console. There’s even a level for Little Big Planet that has your cute little sackboy avatar fly a cartoon plane into the Twin Towers.
Sucks I know, but truth be told we should be getting over 9/11 at least a little bit by now.
However in GTA, you can kill civies with a flamethrower, katana, car, plane, basically anything not nailed to the floor throughout the entire game. That right there makes this in no way any worse than what you can do in GTA. All because the one level takes place in an airport shouldn’t change the basic principals.
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~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the difference is that in this game, they actually act much more like human beings than the NPCs from GTA do.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they really? All I saw in that grainy video was civilian-looking models dropping like ragdolls when shot. No different at all from any other game when you shoot another NPC.
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The original one on Youtube showed the emotions on the civilians. And the civilians trying to run away, cower in fear and trying to help their loved ones all while you ruthlessly cut them down
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s kind of present in the Hitman series too although the graphics aren’t as realistic.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve actually never played Hitman.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go check out Torchlight, none of this silly realistic violence stuff.
by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have so many games to finish. First up inFamous. Then Uncharted 1 and 2. And next week I’ll be getting Dragon Age. Ahh
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh and I totally forgot about Scribblenauts and Madworld
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which is all AI coding created by the developers, not actual emotions of real people.
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~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, they killed real people and filmed them.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like what Disney did for their animal documentaries?
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You can’t just dream up how Bambi’s mother dies. It all happened!
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
White Wilderness contains a scene that supposedly depicts a mass lemming migration, and ends with the lemmings leaping to their deaths into the Arctic Ocean. There have been some reports that the Disney film describes this as an actual suicidal action by the lemmings, but the narrator in the film does state that the lemmings are likely not attempting suicide, but rather are migrating and upon encountering water, attempt to cross it. If the water they attempt to cross is too wide, they suffer exhaustion and drown.
In 1982, the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation news magazine The Fifth Estate broadcast a documentary about animal cruelty in Hollywood, focusing on White Wilderness as well as the television program Wild Kingdom. Bob McKeown, the host of the CBC program, found that the lemming scene was filmed at the Bow River near downtown Calgary and not at the Arctic Ocean as implied by the film. He found out that the lemmings did not voluntarily jump into the river but were pushed in by a rotating platform installed by the film crew. He also interviewed a lemming expert who claimed that the particular species of lemming shown in the film is not known to migrate, much less commit mass suicide. He also discovered that footage of a polar bear cub falling down an Arctic ice slope was really filmed in a Calgary film studio.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that’s disturbing.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not really, the original Ben-Hur did the same thing (with worse graphics obviously)
by Kai on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I should note here that GTA also made me uncomfortable. I’ll kill Nazis, terrorists, and soliders (in games of course) all day long. And those stupid demomen from TF2 will get the full rage of my pyro.
But hurting civilians in a realistic game (i.e. not road rage type of games) have always unnerved me.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And with me, it doesn’t bother me because I know the line between digital and reality.
When I played San Andreas and I got killed in some bullshit way during a mission, I normally would get in a truck and run down cops and civies while throwing molotov cocktails out the window.
Why? Because I know that all they are is a 3D model in a virtual world that is in no way real. What I do in the game does not give me any emotional baggage what-so-ever because I know that everything in there IS NOT REAL.
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course. I know it’s not real. I’m not deluded. And frankly it’s easier for me to digest GTAIV than MW2 because it looks comical. Still doesn’t stop from the fact that the idea itself is fucked up
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then if you think it’s fucked up, you have the right to not play the game at all nor buy it.
But those of us who are looking at the bigger picture and are looking at the fact that the rest of the game is not like that at all will be looking forward and playing the game for that.
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 11:43 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m not buying it (for different reasons) and I don’t think it should be taken out. I’m against censorship. I’m just voicing my opinions of the level itself. How hard is that to understand?
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And since you posted it here I’m voicing my opinion of the situation as well.
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 11:46 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fair enough
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:50 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure why you’re trying to convince other people why they shouldn’t be having some kind of emotional response.
It’s just as futile as me trying to convince you that you should be having an emotional response…. which I hope I wasn’t doing.
What is up for debate is things like: Was that good level design? Will this game make money? Is this a stunt to get free advertising?
I was living in NYC when 9/11 happened and my firm had three floors in teh south tower. About 200 extra people had to work in our office for about a month because their office was blown up. The whole thing was real for me… so you can’t just tell me that X amount of time has past and I should get over it. It’s not that easy.
I’m sure if I were Israeli or Indian, I’d have some kind of response to this game. I’m not going to tell some Indian dude, “Hey, what’s your problemo man??… This is no different than GTA. Your response is irrational man.”
by danzig on Oct 28, 2009 11:52 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m Indian, I have a ton of family in Mumbai, in fact when I was there in February I went to Leopold’s and saw the bullet holes in the wall from last year’s attack.
I have no problem with this game. As far as I can tell, they’re just trying to make it as realistic as possible. In that sense, I think it’s good level design.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because normally when debates like this break out, it’s all about morals and complaints about what some soccer mom’s kid will do if he happens to play it.
The bottom line is that it’s a video game. It’s no different than a movie, television show or any other form of mainstream entertainment. It’s all make believe, and when someone seems to have some sort of problem in what is included in said form of media, they act like it’s the real deal (no one here is like that, I’m only using it as an example).
There was a similar flurry of hysteria when there was a sex scene in Mass Effect. Everyone made a big deal about it saying that their children will be broken forever because of such a thing and a ton of similar crap. In reality, all you got was a little bit of side-boob and that was it.
I’m one of many gamers who are sick and tired of mainstream media using video games as some sort of scapegoat for all the nastiness out there in the real world. What they don’t realize is that the nastiness happens out there every day, but when a video game happens to use a little bit of that nastiness simply to try and make the game either more realistic, more believable or more entertaining, everyone acts like it’s against the laws of nature. Yet TV and Hollywood get off scott-free.
Bottom line: It’s all entertainment.
You’re free to have an emotional response (positive or negative, we don’t care) as long as you don’t go messing it up for the rest of us that don’t feel as strongly about it as you do. Just let us play our dang video games in peace already.
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey like I mentioned I’m against censorship. I thought the whole Mass Effect thing was a joke. If you saw my post you know that I fucking hate Jack Thompson. I’m heavily invested in the gaming industry and I hate the attacks made on it.
But that doesn’t stop me from not liking the level.
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, you're free to hate the level as much as you want.
I’m not gonna stop you.
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thank you, that’s all I wanted to hear.
by danzig on Oct 28, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The best part of the whole Mass Effect thing was when the TownHall and Fox reporters blatantly made shit up (both conservatives – big surprise, right?) about how Mass Effect was some kind of interactive sex game.
My favorite line: Mass Effect can be customized to sodomize whatever, whoever, however, the game player wishes."
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/26/arts/television/26mass.html
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MAINSTREAMMEDIAMAINSTREAMMEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In before this makes headlines on Fox Faux News.
"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
~ Three Dog - Fallout 3
by Swamphunter on Oct 28, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In before Jack Thompson. Wait you say he’s disbarred? OH HELL YES!
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is this any worse than the GTA series or the Hitman series? Just because it’s more realistic?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just watch the video if possible
You’ll see what I mean
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 11:11 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Christ this thread has taken up like half the DBD
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This needed to be higher up the thread.
by paleodan on Oct 28, 2009 9:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For notification purposes it should probably be the first comment in every DBD
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
by norcalnick on Oct 28, 2009 10:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
May I just say:
lol awesome
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
by AERose on Oct 28, 2009 9:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Farudo scrimmage report
Here’s the stuff on the newcomers
– Smith looks very solid at the point. He is strong, fundamentally sound at both ends and made a couple perimeter shots. I have no trouble imagining Smith playing 6-to-10 minutes as Randle’s backup.
– Max blocked four shots, including one each by Sanders-Frison and Randle. Offensively, he still has a long ways to go. Will be interesting to see how he develops this season, and whether he can provide, say, 10 productive minutes per game.
– Sanders-Frison is big, but he carries his weight well. Seems comfortable on the floor, he’s a lefty and a very good passer. Didn’t score much — although he swished one 15-footer — but seems to understand the game. My friend noted that he looks a little like Darryl Dawkins.
– Seeley is a little stronger, and quite a bit more assertive than he was last season as a freshman. He hit six perimeter shots, barely ruffling the net on several of them. He could be one of the players who helps give Cal better depth. He told me afterward that he hurt his left knee a couple months ago, and it still swells up a bit. D.J. said he doesn’t expect any problems in the short term, but may need to have the knee ’scoped after the season to clean up some cartilage.
– Amoke has been drawing raves from his teammates as one of the players who worked hardest during the off-season. He appears very fit and was active around the basket. Figure him to continue playing off the bench at both the 3 and 4.
– Bak Bak is very thin and may be victim of a numbers game on the frontline. Made one nice turn-around jumper from the key. Seems to have skilled, but needs muscle. Will he be red-shirted? I won’t be surprised either way, but right now he’s the sixth man in a battle for playing time at two frontcourt spots.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 10:07 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm pessimistic
But I can’t help but think it’s unrealistic to expect “10 productive minutes per game” from Max.
The description of MSF (not a scorer, understands game, good passer) sounds like a left-handed Harper Kamp!
I’m very happy to read about the progress in the games of Seeley and Amoke. If those two (or even one of them) can contribute, that would be huge.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know about “productive”, but my impression of Max is that he’s much less of a hindrance on the floor than he used to be. Definitely needs to get stronger with the ball, though; too many knocked out of his hands.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine he’d be a good stopper with his blocking ability. Say we got a double digit lead mid-2nd half and wanted to eat away some clock and maintain our lead. Would he do well in that situation?
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you’re under 6’ 6" and trying to drive to the basket under Max, good luck with that. I’m still unsure as to what I think of his footwork, however; I think he can still be worked by experienced moves.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Need help re: Austin
Where can I go watch the Cal game on Saturday? I’m staying near Sixth Street.
SOMEONE HALP
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 10:14 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Call or email the Cal Alumni Club in Austin: http://alumni.berkeley.edu/Alumni/Clubs/by_Name.asp
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Will do.
I was hoping for a good sports bar name. I don’t mind if I’m surrounded by a bunch of Longhorns.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Third Base on Sixth Street or Champions on 4th. They have fried zucchini at Champions. I watched the Zidane-get-thrown-out-of-World-Cup game at Third Base.
by LeonPowe on Oct 28, 2009 5:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would call these bars first…. coverage maps might screw you over….
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by oskisunbear on Oct 28, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
1. This is true, call first
2. But if it’s on ABC, you should be ok. Both of those places are of the super-multiple television stream.
3. I’ll email my Cal friend who is at McCombs (UT school for ""The Biz"") now and ask him where he watches Cal games.
by LeonPowe on Oct 28, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they’re alternating the games on ABC / ESPN2 depending on where you are in the country
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both of these will have it. Champions should be near your hotel
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by Fire Starkey on Oct 29, 2009 7:00 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fire Starkey’s house? Or is he in the greater Dallas region?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some profs want Cal to stop subsidizing sports
Did you guys already cover this yesterday?
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/27/MN0L1AAUM3.DTL
When UC Berkeley lends its Department of Intercollegiate Athletics millions of dollars to pay its bills each year – and even forgives that debt at times – it’s helping a top-tier college sports program beloved by thousands of fans.
But a growing number of Cal academics are disturbed by the practice, arguing that the prestigious research university should not subsidize elite athletes at a time of soaring college costs, faculty furloughs and reduced course offerings.
What the article leaves out is that, unless I’m wrong, the football team generates a profit, which is used to fund other sports. So while football is the face of Cal sports, its not the drain on the budget that the article and the Knight Commission implies.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 10:54 AM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, like I said yesterday, it’s a group of professors who are upset at the success of the athletic program, that it’ll soon be self-sustaining due to the SAHPC and the alumni seating program, and they want their piece of the pie.
I’m sure this’ll be addressed soon, but the only reason it’s taking notice is (a) we’re in Berkeley/San Francisco and (b) they’re targeting football. If it was field hockey or non-revenue sports, no one would give a crap.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s a group of professors who are upset at the success of the athletic program,
And like I said yesterday, it’s fucking moronic to think that any criticism of football stems from people being “upset at the success of the athletic program”.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they’re talking about financial benefit, there’s really no other reason to rabble rouse against football, which on average makes more revenue than cost. If they targeted non-revenue sports I can see the issue.
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i disagree.
you target football because that’s the one that’s on TV right now.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Oct 28, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, football is a million times higher profile than any other college sport. But Avinash has this retarded “the evil professors r jealous of teh football!!1” conspiracy theory stuck in his head.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s not really that far-fetched. These professors are detached from reality and believe college should be a dedicated academic tower. They don’t really understand basic economics, what their students want, what keeps their alumni connected to each other—our football and basketball teams do just as much as the school itself in that regard.
How much in donations do you think Cal would get if not for their sports programs?
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it is that far fetched. You’re basically saying that the only possible reason that anyone criticizes anything is out of jealously and pathological hatred, which is absurd.
Your claim that they “believe college should be a dedicated academic tower” (whatever the hell that means) is an equally baseless conspiracy theory. Saying that academics should take priority over athletics is not the same as saying “I HATE FOOTBALL >:|”.
You are also completely lacking in perspective of how big a role sports (and Cal football specifically) plays in most alumni’s lives. I have plenty of friends who are huge Cal football fans. But they’re a small minority. Cal’s alumni community is not dependent on football, and neither is its fundraising. Not everyone thinks the world revolves around football.
Btw, it’s hilarious that you think you know more about “basic economics” than a bunch of Berkeley professors.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:42 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe I’ve said before that the Cal professors who were detracting were a small minority, and I’ll go out on a limb and say most of them aren’t economics professors.
Academics should take priority over athletics, of course, but I’m not exactly sure how you can make that happen. Professors and researchers are never going to make more money than college ADs and head coaches.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, they clearly hate football and are bitter that our team is winning games. That is clearly the only possible reason why they would ever criticize spending money on athletics.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you hate football so much?
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because I’m a dirty communist!
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do they not give you free showers in Commieland?
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, they need all the water to make motinos.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Free motinos? I’m moving.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But they’re all bottom-shelf motinos! Glorious motherland cannot afford top-shelf due to failures of statist economy.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:57 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
In Soviet Russia, motinos drink you.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
QUIT STALIN AND DRINK
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOT THIS AGAIN
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:15 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HERE WE GO AGAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIN!
PS HolmoePhobe is a stupid doo doo head. Go!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Summary of most arguments from yesterday:
1) You’re either with football or you’re a jealous hack
2) Football is more important to you than educating children??
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn’t you hear, Rishi? The extra helmets they buy for walk-ons could totally be used to cure 200 children of AIDSlaria in Zambia.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, we discussed so much soccer yesterday, I couldn’t read ANYTHING else!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who do you think is going to win this weekend’s Noth London Derby?
by chowder on Oct 28, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
South London, for sure!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who’s favored? Arsenal?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 11:56 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know photo essay I was a few days ago…
But I’ve been sick and MIA….
anyway…. Robert Calonico story: VERIFIED
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by oskisunbear on Oct 28, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
MOTHERFUCKING NAILED IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Found the financial reports!
This has all the info (maybe from two-three years ago) about NCAA expenses/revenues at Cal.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:01 PM PDT reply actions 2 recs
Nice. Football and men’s basketball are the only two sports generating a positive margin. Suck on that you stupid commie professors who can’t even understand that your socialist fucking academic utopia can’t generate a positive margin without the help of these two sports. Yet they use them as symbols for everything that is wrong with college sports in America.
At CGB, we whine because we care
by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh…the university is definitely not dependent on sports for a “positive margin”. Also, if you think that university professors are “commies” who hate sports, you’re a moron.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged
No personal attacks. If you’re going to disagree, be respectful.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Respectful, like calling university professors “stupid commies”?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No personal attacks on each other. Otherwise Fire Starkey would’ve been in deep trouble a long time ago!
Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com
by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I can say stuff about Nestor?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you make our lives so difficult.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I’m a moron. So what?
I could have written my rant a little bit better. The university as a whole clearly doesn’t depend on the $3M positive margin from the football program. But the university’s other sports do rely (not 100% obviously) on the contribution from the football program.
And yes, those professors who ignore that fact to push their agenda are indeed being stupid. And perhaps they are also commies, though I have no research to support that. And, while I am putting down communism, I am not against a socialist system that incorporates capitalism, like the Chinese have successfully be able to do.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just not sure what we’re arguing about here. What do these teachers want? It’s plainly obvious that football makes money itself, so I don’t see why they’d attack it on grounds that it’s costing the school $. Is there some other point here? (I’m asking sincerely because I really just ‘z’ through most of these comments about the Cal athletics budget)
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
My point is that people on CGB should stop demonizing anyone who doesn’t think football is the most important thing in the world.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do people really do that here? A lot of what is said in these DBDs is in jest.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
DEMONS! ALL OF THEM!

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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Basically, what it comes down to here, is professors saying the University either shouldn’t spend money on athletics or at the very least should get out of D1 athletics altogether. If that isn’t their argument, it is truly nonsensical.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they’re saying that academics should take priority over athletics. It’s very disappointing that Cal fans of all people would be offended by that.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Again, do Cal fans really do that? I take most of the replies here as faux offense and jest.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Read Avinash’s “omg the professors are jealous because people like football more than them” comments.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought he was theorizing
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was avant garde performance art.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You think all of the professors are acting out of a noble intent for the sake of academia?
Come on. They want their attention too.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha…they may want it within their field, but I don’t think they really care if Mr. and Mrs. Joe Public cares about them.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I don’t doubt it. But I’ve been around professors most of my life, and I know a lot of them are annoyed at how much attention football programs at their schools receive. Subconsciously that stuff figures in.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
God forbid I find touchdowns more exciting than some history prof’s treatise on the role of the Man-Child in Sound and the Fury as it relates to truth and beauty with regard to the renaissance painting by Michelangelo…
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah well, that’s just like your opinion, man.
by sec119 on Oct 28, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
were your parents profs?
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
’specially in the 95616
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
dude. so totally.
and gawd forbid the ebil university do something that might affect teh ‘city’.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Oct 28, 2009 5:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you and the professors underestimate the importance of athletics. And while they should be secondary, they are important. Athletics, for the most part, are revenue generators, unlike say the English department. None of us are saying athletics are more important, but we are saying they do a pretty good job of covering their costs and football/basketball do so especially well.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The English department isn’t meant to be a revenue generator – public universities are not meant to make profits.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But the better question is WHY should athletics be asked to make a profit or cover their costs? Because they are secondary to academics? Are athletics not important?
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the argument might be that academic endeavors don’t need to make a profit because very long term they benefit all of society, forever, with their innovations. Football is more of a here-and-now thing.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, that’s a much more complicated philosophical argument, I guess. But the purpose of any institution of higher learning, at least ostensibly, is to educate people in certain academic fields. Voters are willing to pay taxes to subsidize these educational institutions because of the perceived benefit to society; I’m not sure if they feel the same way about college athletics.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The “purpose” isn’t to educate Joe in a certain field. It’s to educate Joe in a certain field so that he can spread his knowledge to better society. Hence why the English department is allowed to lose money.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So cancel everything that doesn’t make a profit and move on. The university doesn’t have to adhere to the mens sana in corpore sano approach to life.
I can’t speak for Cal, but at SC faculty hostility towards the athletic department was about 97% football-related.
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally don’t know any men who sana.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You need more Finns in your life then.
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t even think you’re supposed to be looking at a man’s sana!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, I think athletics can be just as important. A college education is about so much more than classes and research. And I don’t think the gains from athletics are merely short-term.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
IT’S NEVER GOING TO ENDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought they were saying University money shouldn’t go to fund the athletic department at all, whether or not academics could have received/used the money. The question of priorities is implied, but it’s not a point they’re making in particular.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt anything the Profs are complaining about is based on specifics.
Right now academia has serious issues relating to budgetary issues, and to the untrained eye our athletics program is not. We’re busy renovating a stadium, paying a coach millions, selling plenty of tickets and getting huge donations.
Basically, I think the professors are protesting the prioritization that some people have. It’s a quixotic campaign because the fact is that people are going to continue being football fans, buying tickets, and donating money to the athletic department. But as long as academia sees some of the spending associated with major college athletics there is going to be some cognitive dissonance.
I think many profs. might say something like “I don’t mind that we pay football, but do we have to spend so much in the process?” Think about what you have to pay to have a successful football program. Facilities, equipment, travel, huge coaching staffs, trainers, water boys, etc. Football is a pretty clear target for waste and gets lots of things that could easily be eliminated if those items weren’t necessary to prevent a competitive disadvantage.
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by norcalnick on Oct 28, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem is that’s all wrong because football pays everyone else. If they’re complaining, it should be about every non-revenue sport (which is every sport except football and basketball), since they all cost more than they bring in…
by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 7:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because football makes net revenue doesn’t mean that there isn’t potential waste to target. And I think that’s what the profs have a problem with – the culture that dictates the millions that must be paid to field a competitive football team.
Even though that team makes money, in an ideal world millions of fans would get excited about, and pay tons of money for, high quality academics.
Clearly, that’s a pipe dream and IMO it’s a silly fight for the profs to get into. But I think they’re right even if it’s a pointless fight.
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by norcalnick on Oct 28, 2009 7:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just gotta look at the football program as an investment. You have to spend money to make money, am I right? I hear the best investment strategy is to use 30/1 borrowed money to buy packages of securitized home mortgages. If you get the AAA ones, you get paid first. It’s a no lose scenario! What were we talking about again?
by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 8:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There’s nothing to stop them from teaching at Vassar.
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 8:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve had just about enough of your Vassar bashing!
Cal Football: It could happen!
by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 9:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have to do it somewhere, the missus is an alumna.
by DC Trojan on Oct 29, 2009 10:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Their agenda? You mean the agenda of pointing out that the greatest public university in the country is hemorrhaging its academic reputation because of a lack of funding? God forbid they push that agenda!
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HolmoePhobeIsLoose
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cal just won two more Nobel prizes, I daresay we won’t be hemorrhaging our academic reputation anytime soon.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
ROLLLONUUUUUUUUBEAAAAARRRRRRRRRRSSSSSSSSSSSS
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Either you are a Cal professor or you really don’t understand why readers of a sports blog would take the overwhelming position they have.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand it; I just expected better from Cal fans. This isn’t Alabama.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you want us to say, that Cal athletics should be disbanded?
At least my workload will be much lighter on Saturdays!
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you fucking illiterate? Where has anyone proposed that Cal athletics be disbanded?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That skirt is making a statement all by itself.
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we could all pitch in and buy HP a prescription for valium.
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or Teamocil.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait, what are you talking about?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just watched that episode… nice
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
by oskisunbear on Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Isn’t this an instance where the CGB guidelines and moderators should step in?
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, don’t ban HolmoePhobe! He’s my friend. He’s just having a bad day.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we all just need to calm down here.
Obviously, Holmoephobe got teede off that people were putting words in the teachers’ mouths.
I think the journalist is to blame.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blame the journalists, not each other.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Calling people “fucking illiterate” or moron and other isn’t the fault of journalists, it is the fault of Holmoephobe.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. I think everyone needs to calm down.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, I call it as I see it.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then go over to BearInsider. Let’s debate the issue and not go to the gutter.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You realize Avinash’s comment was not meant to be at 100% face value..?
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh shit
Has the Real been transferred from keeping by 33SS to Holmoe?! Is HolmoePhobe now the keeper of the Real?!?!?!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m pretty sure 33SS can kick everyone’s ass (except danzig). I, on the other hand, am a scrawny Indian man. So the answer is probably no.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do I need to lay the smack down on your candy ass?
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be fair, I AM illiterate.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blame each other, not the journalists. Wait….
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why can’t we all just blame Twist?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
she’s a witch!

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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m thinking I need to bring in poon links to save the day. This DBD might be the worst evair.
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by carp on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
lol
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This DBD lost me with 100 comments on some kind of computer game argument.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
A computer game? Is that what all that gibberish was about?
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think…
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it’s terrible that Cal professors want the University to stop subsidizing terrorist video games!
Cal Football: It could happen!
by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or that the Cal professors want the video game company to build a mission where you go around shooting up student athletes in order to free up more funding for education.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They wouldn’t buy that, because they can’t install it on their gaming servers.
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, that one was definitely just a joke. Maybe take the next few plays off.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT RILEY MUST PLAY EVERY SNAP OR ELSE!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or else what? Sweeney will emerge as the Chosen One?
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That and every other CGBer will curl up into the fetal position and hide in the urinals on Stadium Rim Way.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let it go, Bro. Let it go.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Listen, what most everyone has said here is that the article was off-base and implied that Cal football is a major part of the problem. It is not a reason there is a deficit and that wasn’t made clear in the article and it isn’t understood whether the professors are aware of that fact. That, the major sports make money and the others are not revenue generators. If you want to make the argument that Cal shouldn’t spend money on athletics all together or that we shouldn’t spend money on major athletics, fine, make that argument. But, on a sports blog you are gonna lose, whether it is Berkeley or Alabama.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are exactly 0 quotes in that article from professors saying that Cal football is a part of the problem. They’re clearly talking about athletics in general.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, just stop. Your blood pressure will be lower.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get your points, HolmoePhobe. I just think you’re overreacting to what other people on this blog said in mocking replay. It’s really not that big a deal here
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’re wrong, kind of. The article mentions the football coaches’ high salaries in a way to draw a connection between budget deficit and the football program. You really want me to dig up the quote?
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The athletics department itself has a budget of nearly $65 million, which it uses for everything from heating the swim team’s pool to paying football coach Jeff Tedford’s salary – $2.3 million last year.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t interpret that line as implying that the football program is part of the deficit problem.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone else sees the connection but you. There’s no point in trying to discuss it any further.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, first, they don’t spend 2.3 million on Tedford, Nike, for the most part, does.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i totally read that as implying that the deficit is football,s falt.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Oct 28, 2009 5:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, again, you then do not understand what annoyed us in the first place, the implication from the article, through imagery and mention of Tedford’s salary, that football is part of the problem. Second, you didn’t respond to anything other than my first sentence.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’re all reading something into the article that isn’t there because you’re over-sensitive to criticism of Cal football. I haven’t heard anyone say that Cal football is responsible for the deficit – that would be absurd, since it’s making a profit.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The article was written with the intention of arousing just this kind of heated debate. Its all an effort to sell the news and build the journalist’s career.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve become exactly what they wanted NOOOOOOOOO
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We’ve become exactly what they wanted YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then it shouldn’t have been included in the piece. Clearly you ignore reality here—when the football program is included in this piece it’d become the primary punching bag of the people reading the article.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
First, as a Cal fan, I am sensitive to this sort of thing. Second, non-Cal fans have drawn that conclusion. Third, the article and the professors arguments are flawed notwithstanding the football aspect.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dare we mention the effect on recruits? Noooooooo!
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OO’s going to a football factory!!! THE HORROR!!!
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait what what what???
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Joking. He’s visiting Eugene this week, check the recruiting thread.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, i really am not going to be following much til Signing Day. I feel there’s a TON of season left, and how we finish up will mean much more than the visits
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, i fully believe there are two reasons why Tedford hasn’t taken us to Rose Bowl
1) Pete Carroll
2) Facilities/Campus Reputation negative recruiting..
oh and Desean Jackson’s big toe
and Mack Brown
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The blade of grass that made Lavelle Hawkins trip…
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn sniper got Lavelle.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makonnen tripping at the goal-line…
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
At second thought, let’s not go down this road, it’s too depressing.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree.
I think there is a Pac10 rule for officials that states that cal can’t go to the rose bowl.
adjusts tinfoil hat
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Oct 28, 2009 5:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
To be fair, passages like this (not to mention the article’s mention of Coach Tedford’s salary and the football photos that accompanied the article) gave the impression that football was being criticized as part of the problem.
Meanwhile, a group of faculty members who have dubbed themselves a Sports Grinch Club objects to the use of any university funds being spent on intercollegiate athletics.
“We ought to stop subsidizing this program,” said Michael O’Hare, a professor at Cal’s Goldman School of Public Policy. He and others say the loss to the school far outweighs any benefit because elite athletes generally have lower graduation rates and receive unfair benefits compared with regular students.
O’Hare called “deeply depressing” the Knight Commission’s new report, in which university presidents acknowledge that they have little control over the escalating costs of their football programs.
“There’s still just one team that wins,” he said. “And all we’ve done is spend a whole lot more money for no significantly different outcome.”
Cal spokesman Mogulof said, "There’s a reason that 10,000 students come to every home football game.
“They’re not just at Berkeley to attend class. They come to be part of a community.”
Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/10/27/MN0L1AAUM3.DTL#ixzz0VGHEYOU6
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They call themselves the “Sports Grinch Club,” but they’ve got nothing against sports?
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Woah, woah, woah, just because they call themselves that doesn’t mean they hate sports . . .
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the part I don’t understand:
He and others say the loss to the school far outweighs any benefit because elite athletes generally have lower graduation rates and receive unfair benefits compared with regular students.
So what if the athletes have lower graduation rates? You have at most 100 elite athletes who leave early, compared to 40,000 students who don’t. You don’t have to use a calculator to realize the impact on the overall graduation rate is insignificant.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you on this.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
visit creepygif.com to view this GIF animation.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, the graduation rate for Tedford’s players is 83%, pretty close to the University general population.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah, but....
tha 1 didn’t…
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by Rocksanddirt on Oct 28, 2009 5:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok, I can see how people get that impression. I still don’t think that’s sufficient justification for demonizing professors.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I actually am a professor (albeit adjunct and at a law school that doesn’t have any sports programs). My observations of my full-time, tenured colleagues is that a substantial number of them are, in fact, demons.
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck Hastings.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t teach at Hastings but, since it’s my alma mater, I will second the motion.
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It’s reallly amazing how few Hastings graduates actually like or liked the place.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, most of the people I know who went/go there dislike. I’m probably still going to end up applying there, though.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You get a good education and the name still resonates with employers. Also, the curve is much better than it was only a few years ago. That said, it does not have a campus, is in a bad neighborhood, has large sections, has seen its ranking fall near the 40’s, and is still a tad too competitive. Among the Bay Area schools, is a great option if you do not get into Cal.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the neighborhood and lack of a campus are the main reasons people dislike Hastings more than other law schools. There is also the issue that law school is a pretty harsh place and a big shock after college, especially for us liberal arts types. But that is true at just about every law school.
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, and, it used to be the overly competitive atmosphere driven by their draconian curve. it was improved a few years ago. Also, for more recent graduates, the construction that took away 50% of the campus including the library.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The neighborhood and lack of campus were the big drawbacks for me. However, the neighborhood was a positive in one respect – proximity of courts for externship opportunities. I do regret, somewhat, not having had a university “campus” experience.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everything BeastMode says is true. The ranking dropping into the high 30s or low 40s (USN&WR) sucks. Speaking from experience (and being as objective as I can be as a Hastings grad), though, I don’t think the number ranking truly reflects the quality of education.
Also, if you’re into moot court, Hastings has very good teams. And Hastings has very good clinical programs if you’re into doing that.
That said, back in the day, I truly wanted to go to Cal for law school. Hastings was a good fall back.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, the lack of campus and neighborhood (and what I’ve heard about the general atmosphere) are definitely cons.
Having said that, it’s significantly better than SCU or USF.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you only going to be able to go to NorCal schools?
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Outside of UCLA and USC, not much worthwhile down south if you are a Bay Area person. Even then, I may still choose Hastings, or even Davis.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve heard good things about Davis.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Take into consideration that Hastings on-campus recruiting is substantially larger than Davis. And, despite Davis having a slightly higher ranking Hastings still has a better reputation. That said, it is a good school with a much better quality of life. Though, farther from Cal football.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, my sister is attending the new UCI Law School on full scholarship. She turned Hastings and Fordham down for that.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I get depressed driving past UCI because there’s a huge cluster of 5-10 story buildings that are solely law firms. Entire fucking blocks/neighborhoods dedicated to suing your ass.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT LAWYERS ARE WELCOME AND PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You better say that, or we’ll sue your ass.
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fixed
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT LAWYERS ARE WELCOME AND PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fixed again
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO ADD THAT LAWYERS ARE WELCOME AND PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF A SECRET SOCIETY.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you just drive around everywhere in California all the time?
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE! THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE!
Further, there is a car driving aroundi n the house.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TwistNHookIsLoose…..inside the house
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
One of my favorite activities in the world is drivin around checkin stuff out.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 1:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t know if they’re offering the full scholarships to the entire entering class next year. That may have been a first year deal
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Full scholarship is definitely not something to take lightly…and apparently Cherminsky has put together an excellent faculty.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, his pitch about the ranking of the professors got my sister’s attention. Plus: Free Law School
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but I figured that safeties in the Bay Area, where I already live, make more sense than safeties in other random locations. No point in moving unless I gain something from it education-wise.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
It depends on what you’re doing. SCU has a very good IP program. If you want to do government work, Hastings is the better place to go, but you aren’t hurt by going to those other institutions.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah – I have ideas about what I want to do, but I don’t want to choose my school based on that because I think a lot of people change their mind once they actually take the classes.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yknow, when you flipped your shit for no discernable reason, I didnt care.
When you called everybody fucking illiterate even though I’ve told you like infinity times to chill the fuck out, I didnt care.
But when you mock my alma mater! Well, goddamn it, I continue to not care.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
where did you live when you went there? The Richmond? The Haight?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Oct 28, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
your house.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck. I know. Sorry for the rollonu-type question.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Oct 28, 2009 3:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I got rejected.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
fixed
Twist I gotgets rejected.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Each year I apply again just so I can have that great feeling!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s like me and my masochistic desire to retake the GMAT just for fun, even though I already have my MBA.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
By anyone in particular? Or by the world in general?
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 1:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the world in general rejects you, start a blog.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about when the blog rejects you?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 2:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ask Twist, he’s the only one here that knows the answer to that question.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, in specific to this conversation, Hastings.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t feel bad, Twist. I’m sure that there were many qualified applicants, and they sincerely regretted that you weren’t one of them.
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a Hastings grad
I liked it there.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you moved to Ohio. Your judgment is suspect.
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You’ve won this round.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Cal football’s record was as good as CalBear81’s record, let’s just say The Football Monopoly in Los Angeles Would Be Over.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
You become #4 on my list of the number of people I know that liked Hastings.
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by BeastMode on Oct 28, 2009 1:09 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey now! I’m not tenured yet!
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
College sports are an American institution. Should they be operating at a deficit when salaries for academics are being cut and furlough days are being enforced? Probably not. Should the football team have 4 buses chartered for them to take them from Memorial to Haas during a rainstorm? Probably not.
But if you take away athletics, American colleges become as boring and preppy as Oxford. Is that what we want?
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
by oskisunbear on Oct 28, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some do want that.
They’re called terrorists.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can we drop the computer game already?
by sec119 on Oct 28, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of computer games, in transferring files from my old comp to new one, I lost my original copy of Simcity.
=(.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Speaking of computers, I got a copy of Windows 7. Is it something that I should be able to install myself on my 2 Windows Vista computers, or am i going to fuck something up?
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just be sure to debug your boot drive. Sometimes the RAM can be incompatible with the CPU based on power requirements from chip to chip with the new version of Windows, esp if they come from different manufacturers. This can lead to a loss in functionality to certain parts of the hard drive, but only when using proprietary sector … uh…. flannel chips… uh… and … ok I made it all up.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
um uh oh. i better get someone who knows what they’re doing. even if you made it all up, that’s enough to scare me.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:31 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! MY FLANNEL CHIPS!!!!!
it reminds me of this penny arcade
Remember, the enemy's end zone is DOWN!
by GoldBlooded on Oct 28, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bottom line
Football $3,346,008
Men’s Basketball $2,831,243
Women’s Basketball $-677,853
Other $-6,566,288
Non Program Specific $-6,820,722
Total $-7,887,612
by Kai on Oct 28, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know if this has been mentioned
And maybe I need to re-read the article, but the way the article was written really left the impression that the university was subsidizing football, as opposed to the totality of the athletic department. Basically, these numbers show that football and men’s basketball are revenue makers, albeit not enough to fully fund the other 25 (!) intercollegiate sports in which we field teams.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s exactly my point. None of the professors quoted in the article said anything about football specifically.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it was just the writer’s editorializing, is what you’re saying?
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s the way I took it.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome. Time to crunch these.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Daily Cal profiles Patrick Christopher's...apparel?

Link to article; Photo by Lara Brucker
At a school where athletes are almost indistinguishable from underneath their baggy, hooded Cal sweat-suit combo, Cal basketball player Patrick Christopher makes a fashion statement every day.
This shooting guard’s threads are always on point.
“No sweatpants for me, I like to treat every day like it’s a photo shoot,” he says.
No exceptions. So when it took him a few extra minutes to clean up after practice, you could see why. He walked in, jeans rolled up just like the sleeves on his dress shirt, wingtips shining, watch and tie matching (including a clip) — he was put together, head to toe.
Some may look at him on campus like he’s Andre 3000 or Farnsworth Bentley, but that doesn’t do his game justice. To the 6-foot-5 fashionisto, his style is “versatile, classic, timeless, confident (and) daring.”
He says he’s been doing it forever and has proof, thanks to his mom’s new hobby of tagging photos on Facebook.
“She just tagged me in this picture from this one Easter, when I might’ve been two or three,” he says. “And I have on a cardigan, a bow-tie, some shorts and some white bucks. I was fitted back then.”
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:21 PM PDT reply actions 1 recs
WE FLY HIGH NO LIE…. WE BALLIN
BALLIN
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:24 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHERE IS TWIST
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
WHERE IS RISHI
“Nothing’s better than a man in a suit, I always say. It doesn’t get more crisp than that,” he says.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
10000% true
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
For the record, he doesn’t actually sleep in his closet. He just loves his closet almost as much, if not more, than his favorite fashion season. The patterns, the big double-breasted jackets — Christopher loves the fall.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 28, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I WAS AT LUNCH! I WAS AT LUNCH!?!?!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec’d for great use of a cardigan and scarf.
Cal Football: It could happen!
by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, does this look good?
Am I so out of it that I can no longer tell?
by danzig on Oct 28, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think minus the jean jacket it’s good. The jean jacket just doesn’t fit.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed. Definitely no need for the jean jacket.
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by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somebody’s got a problem with the Canadian tuxedo?!?
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by norcalnick on Oct 28, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
PC was rocking the Canadian Tuxedo at Boykin’s art dealie over the summer.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, I don’t think so.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dunno man, kids these days…
Actually I think Christopher looks pretty cool.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twist would hit that.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually… I’m indifferent on what us guys think about it. What do the girls think?
Also, subtract out the fact that he’s PC… and replace that basketball with a latte from Coffee Bean. Do the gals still think this looks good? Looks silly to me, but I really can’t tell anymore.
by danzig on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
They probably dig. They like dudes who dress uniquely. As long as it isn’t too douchey.
Plus I’m pretty sure if you’re a basketball stud, it doesn’t really matter what you wear.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’ve learned two things:
1) We’ve nearly scared every woman off the internetz =(
2) Large, attractive African American men can wear whatever the $&*! they want and still pimp game.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
wrt this guy (points thumbs at chest).
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:57 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its in, in a Lupe Fiasco kinda way

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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that’s actually Lupe Fiasco.
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 2:20 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plainly the athletic department is getting too many of the scarce clothing resources available to the university at large during this budget crisis. It’s time to take a serious look at whether these Dapper Dans are taking up chinos that could be better used by sociology majors desperately seeking gainful employment.
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
Scottish rabble-rouser
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahahahahahaha
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
NO ONE SAID THAT YOU ILLITERATE FUCK!!! WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK?!
FUCK!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think we all need to calm down here.
You do realize he is Scottish, right?
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HOLE
E
SHIT
For the record, he doesn’t actually sleep in his closet. He just loves his closet almost as much, if not more, than his favorite fashion season. The patterns,the big double-breasted jackets— Christopher loves the fall.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
TwistNHook = Patrick Christopher?
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by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 1:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. Yes, I am.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Twist and Christopher must be in the closet together. Wait, that didn’t come out right. Or did it?
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let me explain to you what the problem is there. The jean jacket or the cardigan. I think you could rock one or th eother with that outfit. Because if you take out the jean jacket, it’s a nice dressed up look.
If you take out the cardigan, it’s a decently dressed up look with the edge of the jean jacket. So, to me, it’s kind of like the Washington coaches time management at the end of the UW-ASU game. Is he trying to win or is he trying to run out the clock? Too much.
Plus, scarves with collared shirts always seem a bit off to me. Too much going on in the neck region. With the neck area, you wanna keep it simple.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
That’s exactly what I said!
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now you’re going to have to take another bath.
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by norcalnick on Oct 28, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arnold Drops the F Bomb
Governor Schwarzenegger issued a veto message which, spells out “F-u-c-k-y-o-u.”
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 12:32 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Glad to see that governance in California remains about as effective as it was when I headed east in 1992.
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is the Second Worst DBD I've ever been apart of...
Let’s talk about SOCCER!
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 12:57 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
Seem to be a lot of soccer fans here
Should we put up a soccer thread?
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rec'd times a billion
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fascist Americans.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m just getting into it, but it’s hard to follow because of time differences and access to few games. No need for a separate thread
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, been watching that
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
espn360 has a surprising amount of stuff – less so now that the Champions’ League is on FSC, but still. If you can get Gol.tv, that’s the other major channel.
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hells to the yes during World Cup. Probably not enough interest in any one club game to justify anything beyond a DBD sub-topic.
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by norcalnick on Oct 28, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
US friendlies against Slovakia and Denmark on Nov. 14 and 18, resp.
by sec119 on Oct 28, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
World Cup is too far away. Already got the Fever
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice article in the Daily Cal about the issue
But it is the low graduation rate of Cal football players that individuals like professor Nader point to when criticizing athletics. That misses the point. The football team generates a very respectable profit because loyal students, alumni and the population at large love watching the Golden Bears play, no matter how many ill-fated Wildcat plays Bob Ludwig calls against teams with whom that gimmick does not fly. Cal football players do not take anything from the campus budget, but rather bring in significant revenue.
Of course, Cal’s football and basketball programs have other tangible benefits to the campus. For many alumni, there are two lasting connections to the school—the line in their resume that lists Berkeley as their alma mater, and their allegiance to Cal’s athletic teams. When they see the Bears fight and win for California, they are reminded of all that their alma mater means to them. Friends who work at the fundraising call centers both here and at UCLA have told me that football and basketball victories, respectively, are followed by spikes in fundraising.
There is also the oft-cited “Flutie effect,” where a school increases the pool of quality applicants due to exposure following athletic success. Admittedly, the data on this are contradictory, and understandably so-there is a large number of variables one has to account for. But, speaking unscientifically, it makes sense that people look into schools whose athletic contests they see featured on TV. We talk a lot about access and increasing the exposure of our campus to high school students—what better way to do this than to be on CBS every fall weekend or by going deep in March Madness?
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 12:58 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
ill-fated Wildcat plays Bob Ludwig calls against teams with whom that gimmick does not fly
Psh it’s obvious Bob Ludwig didn’t call those plays. They sound more like they came from head coach Steve Tedford.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think our Wildcat would work best with Jason Best and Lester Vereen working in tandem.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don’t forget Ezekiel Riley out wide to block…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was Jebediah Best?
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Goody Best and Goody Vereen
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jebediah Obadiah Zachariah Jedediah’Quan Thompson is still one of the best corners in the country.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 28, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anyone else catch Dick Callahan just calling him “Quan Thompson” a few times last weekend?
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
by oskisunbear on Oct 28, 2009 1:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
SQT: Sexy Quarterback Trauma
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And his counterpart Mary Hagan is good, too.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jorge Hill has also done well in that spot.
Stan Conte has also made a couple of plays for us as an extra DB.
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 1:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Driving home from a game last year, we heard an ESPN radio guy call him “Javeed Davis.”
by CalBear81 on Oct 28, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just call him
Jah
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some Cal grad schools adding professional degree fees
In a move officials said would maintain the competitiveness of UC Berkeley graduate academic programs, some campus colleges and schools may add professional degree fees for the first time beginning next school year.
Fees for the professional programs at nine schools, including, for the first time, the College of Environmental Design, the School of Social Welfare and the School of Information, may be approved by the UC Board of Regents for 2010-11 at its next meeting in November. Some officials said the introduction of fees is a response to the difficult budgetary situation some programs are facing.
While the School of Social Welfare is seeking approval for a professional fee of $4,000, the College of Environmental Design is seeking approval for a $6,000 fee. The proposed fee at the college would only affect professional master’s programs, meaning students pursuing doctoral degrees and a Master of Science in Architecture would not be charged.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 1:20 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
If the School of Information doesn’t include at least one guy with a white beard meditating at the top of a mountain in Tibet, I will be very disappointed.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol wut
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Erm
Sorry for my immoderate language earlier. I have kind of a short fuse (you may have noticed). I apologize.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 1:24 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
This isn’t your Twitter account.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 28, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
brb getting thai food
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 28, 2009 1:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 1:26 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
HolmoePhobeIsNotAMoron
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flag'd
no need to apologize. The DBD was created to provide enough rope to hang oneself. I’m on my 9th life.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged. Only Sweeney throws accurate ropes with the distance to hang oneself.
by sec119 on Oct 28, 2009 3:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jahvid Best chat answers
Russ (South Bay)
What’s your major and what do you plan to do when you no longer play football?
Jahvid Best (3:55 PM)
My major is legal studies. Ever since I was little, I wanted to be a cop. So when football is over, I think I’ll go into some sort of legal enforcement.
Spazzy Mcgee (Oakland, CA)
Jahvid, what made you want to go to Cal?
Jahvid Best (4:01 PM)
It was a number of things. I fell in love with the coaching staff when I came for my visit. And I’m a big family guy, so having my family being able to come to my games was big. With my family in the Bay Area, that factored in a lot.
Donny (Oakland)
What’s your favorite place to eat around campus
Jahvid Best (4:04 PM)
Hmmm. I would have to go with two: Sufficient Grounds and the burrito place La Burrito.
Jim (Huntington Beach)
Jahvid, who was your favorite cal player of all time to watch ?
Jahvid Best (4:05 PM)
Will Tafu, our fullback from last year. He’s one of the most underrated players I’ve ever seen. I can’t remember the last time he messed up. He never messes up and is always assignement perfect. The work ethic he had rubbed off on me and made me want to work hard every day.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 1:29 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
I loved going to Sufficient Grounds!
Praise be to Tedford!
by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 1:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like how he explained that La Burrito is a burrito place.
Cal Football: It could happen!
by CalBandGreat on Oct 28, 2009 1:39 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And managed to get the name wrong….
SPANISH PRONOUNS PEOPLE
La Burrita…mmm, feminine
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by oskisunbear on Oct 28, 2009 1:40 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I’m going to assume that intern typing the answers isn’t happy with his pay.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey we might get it confused with La Burrita szechuan cuisine
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, in every interview with a Cal football player lately they all say La Burrita was their favorite restaurant
#1: HOW COME I NEVER SEE FOOTBALL PLAYERS WHEN I GO?
#2: La Burrita is seriously overrated. I wish there was better Mexican food around campus.
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by norcalnick on Oct 28, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean La Diarrhea?
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 7:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Myself, I’m actually partial to Mario’s The Party.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 8:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mario’s Super Burrito for lunch = huge afternoon nap
by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like La Burrita…
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 11:10 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
The new place in Asian Ghetto (erm…sorry PC people, Durant Food Court) Pancho’s is pretty good. Fajitas for $6.50! Plus orange sauce, though it’s nowhere near La Vic’s quality.
by rjnarayen on Oct 29, 2009 12:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
He, Asian Ghetto is more PC than Asian Crack Alley. Baby steps, people. Baby steps.
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by TwistNHook on Oct 29, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
We just called it Crack Alley – no ethnic modifier.
by LeonPowe on Oct 29, 2009 9:30 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I was in school, football players – if eating Southside food were usually at Kip’s or IB Hoagie’s.
Basketball players were at Blake’s.
by LeonPowe on Oct 29, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Food at Kip’s = ew.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 29, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like their super nachos. Especially the one on Northside
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 29, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
And btw Berkeley’s Mexican food >>> Seattle’s Mexican food
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 29, 2009 10:31 AM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just saw a chick with a popped collar on her polo shirt
It was oddly kinda hot.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 1:35 PM PDT reply actions 0 recs
just must be confused with the bridge closure
by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 1:37 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was she Japanese?
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by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 1:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don’t understand the link.
I think I’m going to go back to Starbucks and hope she’s there.
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rishi
have you heard of the loft effect?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you’ve spent your entire married life wishing you weren’t married.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
lies
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 1:54 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Luck, opportunity, frustration, threat?
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by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
my butddy was explaining it to me as designing one’s loft or bedroom so that once it’s entered, it’s impossible for women to get out. Like a venus fly trap. I believe requisite pieces include a bed that can only be accessed by a step ladder, and at least one couch, a trash can and perhaps one of those irresistable bean bag chairs cluttering the path between the bed and the door. He said it worked for him like 10 times, at least half of those would have been 50/50’s.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 2:11 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
that sounds… fratty
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
he did add it worked better on coeds than on seasoned/burned late 20’s women.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
by carp on Oct 28, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would argue that having a comfortable-looking and easily-accessible bed improves chances. Tired girl comes back to “hang out”, sees your bed, lies down.
The bean bag chair is a solid plan.
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I don’t think she’d put herself on your bed if she wasn’t interested in making things happened. I suppose making it easier on her isn’t a bad thing, though.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Makes more sense to me than making the bed uninviting!
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
by Rishi on Oct 28, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
So my bed of nails was not a good decision?
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 28, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Depends on if you like your girls masochistic or not.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 2:49 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flag’d
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My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
by oskisunbear on Oct 28, 2009 3:06 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, but if one had a loft…then entering the room does not necessarily mean that said girl will end up on the bed. There’s still time to blow it (no pun). My buddy reports that giwomen enjoy a certain “novelty” of the experience.
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by carp on Oct 28, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn’t roofies be cheaper and easier?
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Spoken like a true ’SC grad!
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
You stay classy, CGB, and thanks for stopping by.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now that is offensive. Thanks for playing
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
doh I take this back
I thought ragnarok was replying to me implying that SC grads do this. m’bad
In other words, Go Bears!
by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 2:42 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Objectionable, I take it. Fair enough, is this staying up as an object lesson?
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Roofies only work on ’SC girls….and Twist.
At CGB, we whine because we care
by dballisloose on Oct 28, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I tried relying on my charm and good looks. Four very long years resulted.
by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 2:44 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I’m not taking this down. I’m hoping that everyone here realized you were jesting, and no one was offended. I mostly wanted to remind people to keep it classy around here, and this seemed as good a place as any.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 2:32 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don’t think anyone would ever take what he said as completely serious and not in jest, to be honest. that person would have to be a real idiot.
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by Thoroughbred on Oct 28, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
THAT’S IT, WE’RE SHUTTING DOWN THE BLOG! PLAYTIME IS OVER!
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by TwistNHook on Oct 28, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, see mea culpa below.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
OH COME ON
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 28, 2009 2:33 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged
Plagarizing Gob Bluth.
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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Flagged!
George Oscar Bluth II.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 28, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boom! Roasted!
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
by oskisunbear on Oct 28, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that’s my bad. I wasn’t really serious about it being a violation of any community guidelines; I mostly wanted to reference the quote I stole from Anchorman. I need to be more clear about that in the future.
1000 apologies to DC Trojan.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never liked apologies when they’re required. Sorta kills the sincerity, or at least renders it under suspicion.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions 0 recs

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