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Cal vs. Washington State Post-Game Thoughts

(1) New kickoff coverage scheme?  Today I noticed something I hadn't noticed before.  Most teams have the entire kick coverage team get a running start on the kick, and all the defenders are at the line of scrimmage right when the ball is kicked.  This is what Cal has done in the past, and if I'm not mistaken, what they've been doing this year.  However, today on kickoff coverage, two of our defenders would hang back approximately 5 yards at the instant of the kickoff instead of being right on the line of scrimmage at the time of the kick.  Thus, Cal has eight kickoff coverage defenders going down the field full speed at the time of the kick from the line of scrimmage, and three defenders moving down the field behind.  It's as if there are now two waves of defenders (eight then three) as opposed to one wave of defenders (of eleven men if you want to counter the kicker too).  Now, I suppose some of you might be thinking I was just seeing things and the two guys were just being lazy about not being right at the LOS at the moment of the kick, but no.  It was intentional.  I'm pretty positive.  They were distinctly and purposely further back than the initial coverage net to give more depth to the coverage net.

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(2) Gregory breaks out the 4-2 nickel defense! This was a surprise.  I was just sort of chilling and watching the game.  Then all of a sudden I see four down linemen.  Now sometimes, when Cal uses its 3-3 defense we have one of the linebackers get in a three point stance (usually Price) and so it gives the impression of a 4-2 nickel although it's not.  But this was the 4-2 nickel.  I made sure by checking who those four down linemen were, and they were all defensive lineman.  Pretty interesting.  I don't think this is something that will be regular though.  I think this was more of a unique thing that Gregory was doing because of WSU's single-back three WR offense with a lot of zone read.  By using the 4-2 instead of the 3-3, it gives Cal more run protection (due to four defensive linemen instead of three defensive linemen) against WSU's zone reads.  Because there is greater run protection, the linebackers won't get so sucked up from the zone read fakes like they do in the 3-3.  With the 4-2, it did seem like Gregory was getting more pressure with the four man rushes as compared to the 3-3's three man rushes - or perhaps the WSU players are just worse than previous opponents.

(3) Gregory was somewhat more aggressive in his playcalling this game.  Last week, lots of Cal fans were complaining about his "passive" UCLA gameplan and other "passive" gameplans.  Well, I think there should be less complaining this week.  Gregory blitzed more than usual.  When he wasn't blitzing five, he was already rushing four on the 4-2 defense.  He stunted and twisted the defensive line on occasion.  With WSU's 3 and 4 WR sets, he mostly used zones but we saw some man sprinkled in here and there. 

WSU did show some repetitive success with taking short curls against 10 yard cushions; that slot WR swing pass (pretty much just like a bubble screen but without the screen part); and that playaction QB-backspin bootleg play.  I can understand taking away the deep balls and giving up some easy yards against our 10 yard cushions, but I was hoping for a little more adjustment to counter those playaction QB-backspin bootleg plays.  Maybe I'm making too big of a deal about it though.  A few times they got decent yardage, but I think we also shut down those plays for minimal gains fairly often too. 

Corner blitz at 7:50
Man coverage at 8:15
Weakside zone stretch at 9:10

 

(4) We ran a slant! ... and it went for an incompletion.  I can't remember who was the WR.  Perhaps Tucker.  But the offense was driving south.  Tucker was on the east side of the field.  Ran a slant, Riley's ball placement was low, the ball wasn't caught - incomplete.  Would have been an easy 7-8 yard gain at least had the throw been on the money. 

(5) Jordan has a good game.  Well, way to make me look bad.  Last week I was harsh on Jordan saying he's disappeared far too much this season, and then he comes out and has six tackles of which 2.5 were sacks for a loss of 17 yards.  On one particular sack, Jordan's freak athleticism got him the sack.  the WSU QB was flushed out of the pocket to the right and he started scrambling at an angle backwards trying to pass.  Jordan was at left defensive end (defense's left) and used his speed to close in on the QB and sack him.  I guess Jordan owes a bit of credit to whomever got pressure on the QB and flushed him out towards Jordan, but Jordan's athleticism was also responsible for the sack.  On the other occasion, Jordan got a pure sack against WSU's right tackle by just getting the tackle turned, and pushing him out of the way.  Good for Jordan.  Hopefully he can keep this up and these sacks weren't just because the WSU players sucked.

(6) Washington State false starts itself to death and penalizes itself to death.  Washington State was penalized 13 times for 114 yards.  Around five of those penalties were false starts.  I found that puzzling.  It was puzzling because the stadium was pretty empty.  They announced that 50,000 people were there, but it looked more like 40,000.  By the time the third quarter came around, it was more like 30,000.  The stadium was not very loud at all on consistent basis.  The student section was only about 50% filled (it looked more filled than it really was because they were more spread out, but if you squished them together with normal spacing, the students probably would have only filled 1/2 of the student section).  The students weren't really that into the game since it's WSU and the game was never truly in doubt.  The rest of the stadium seemed fairly quiet.  Yet WSU false started themselves to death for some reason.  Sort of funny.

(7) Riley was okay.  He obviously made some huge touchdown throws.  But he missed an easy slant pass too low.  He missed a sure-touchdown pass to Best in a goal line situation.  Riley faked playaction to Best, and then Best immediately burst out to the right flat and was completely uncovered.  Nobody was within 10 yards of him.  But Riley just lead Best too much and threw the ball too shallow rather than deep (on an angle more towards the flat area rather than on an angle more towards the corner).  Riley also threw an INT when the pass probably shouldn't have been thrown at all.  Again, that INT is just another instance of Riley trying really hard to make something happen.  Sometimes he makes it work.  Sometimes he doesn't.  I think the better decision on that INT play would have been to just keep the ball and run for that zero yard gain or one yard gain.  That's what we all thought he was going to do as the play was unfolding.  Nobody appeared to be open from my seats.  I think from Riley's point of view the WR looked open, but the WSU safety was closing fast from center field and picked off the ball.  The pass was slightly against the grain.  One of those QB golden rules is to not throw back across the grain.  But forget the rules!  Riley's a gamer! 

(8) Offensive line did a pretty good job opening up holes.  Best averaged 12.2 yards a carry.  Vereen averaged 5.1 yards a carry.  The RBs consistently had holes to run through.  Very few bad blocking tackle for loss plays.  Some pretty good blocking by the OL overall. 

(9) Offensive line did a great job pass blocking.  Riley wasn't sacked.  Very few hurries.  Riley helped them out too by getting the ball out on time, and scrambling when things started breaking down.  Great pass blocking today.

(10) WSU averaged (approximately) 9.0 yards per pass attempt against Cal's defense.  Statistically, this is horrible.  But I don't think it was quite as bad as it seemed or something that was wholly unexpected.  First of all, we were playing a decent amount of man coverage.  Cornerbacks at the college level aren't as good at man coverage as cornerbacks in the NFL so there are more bigger pass completions.  WSU had deep completions of 68 yards, 33 yards, and 31 yards from some of their WRs (not all against man coverage).  This certainly isn't good.  It's something that you want to avoid.  But it's also something that you somewhat expect to happen on occasion.  Second, WSU also got quite a few easy 8-10 yard gainers too against deeper zones and bigger cushions by our defense due to the offense being in 2nd and 15 situations from penalties.  In other words, Cal was definitely more willing to take away the deep ball and give up shorter passes underneath and could afford to do so because WSU often needed large amounts of yards to convert for a first down.  So I don't think it was really as bad as the 9.0 yards per pass attempt statistic makes it seem.

I know, WSU did roll up 440 total yards of offense on us.  That certainly isn't good from a statistical standpoint.  But if you take into account all their penalty yards (114 yards of penalties!), then they really only had a net gain of like 326 yards against our defense (440 - 114 = 326).  That statistic is more reasonable.  Let me reiterate again, throughout the game there never really was an instance where everyone was like, "OMG.  WTF.  WHY ARE THEY GETTING SO MANY YARDS TIME AFTER TIME???"  Sure they were getting yards, but they were also just making up for their penalty yards.  So it wasn't as frustrating or maddening as the 440 yards of offense stat might suggest. 

(11) Cal's defense allowed 4.0 yards per rush but was actually even better than that statistic suggests.  The official statistics say the defense only allowed 2.0 yards per rush but that is taking into account yards from sacks which occurred on passing plays not run plays.  Such a statistic is very misleading.  So you have to take out sack yardage.  So 4.0 yards per rush is alright.  You'd prefer to see it more in the 3.0 yards per rush area for college football, but 4.0 isn't horrible or bad.  Cal clearly had WSU's run game bottled up fairly well for the most part.  One of WSU's runningbacks had 51 yards total on the day, but 37 of those yards came from one run.  Thus, on those other runs, he was averaging only 2.0 yards per rush ((51-37)/(8-1)=2).  So actually, aside from one screwup where WSU got a big 37 yard gainer on the ground, Cal's defense really did shut down WSU's two runningbacks (2.0 yards per rush and 1.6 yards per rush).  That's a pretty excellent performance right there.

(12) Enough with the "if not now, then when?" talk.  I still see some people toting that line around complaining that this is another bust year, this Cal team is the most talented Cal team in the Tedford era and since it isn't going to the Rose that it'll never happen.  Please.  This team always had legitimate concerns at QB, WR, OL, and LB.  Cal was over-hyped due to a mixture of our Heisman runningback, having an All-American cornerback, and USC being slightly down.  This isn't a bust year from an objective standpoint (not yet at least).  Sure we were ranked #6 or whatever at one time, but such early season polls are mostly based on incorrect public perception and conjecture rather than substantiated facts and game outcomes.  Cal was never really a #6 team.  It might have seem like it the way we were destroying our early opponents.  But now that we've seen how bad Maryland was, and how bad EWU was, it's clear that we were just a pretty good team beating down on patsies, but not a sure-fire BCS caliber team.

(13) Cal should let other ticket holders sit in the student section if the student section is doing card stunts and the student section is not substantially filled by kickoff.  At kickoff today, I think the student section was about 1/3rd full (even such an estimate might be generous, it could have been as little as 1/4th full).  At its peak, the student section was probably just under 1/2 full.  Needless to say, the card stunts sucked.  There weren't enough students there to do the stunts.  Shame on the students who didn't show up.  Now, how can this problem be remedied?  Allow young alumni, and other season ticket holders to plop down in the student section to enjoy the nice seats and help with the card students.  After all, the young alumni and regular ticket holders pay more money than the students to see the game.  If the students aren't going to show up, why not give back to the young alums and season ticket holders?  Why not let others sit in the student section to help fill it out so the card stunts don't suck?  It's a win-win for everyone.  But NOPE!  The security/usher guys/gals were out in force today kicking people out of the HALF FULL student section.  I see such a policy accomplishing NOTHING.  I can understand such a policy on games where the student section is full, such as USC or Big Game.  But at kickoff the student section was 1/3rd full.  There is no need to enforce the usual student-only policy - especially not when card stunts will be performed at half time.  Cal had a golden opportunity to turn this pathetic student turnout into something better, and failed based on short-sighted policy.

(14) Four man rush out of a 4-2 versus a four man rush out of a 3-3.  The benefit of the former is that it puts four defensive lineman, who are usually the best players on the team at defeating pass protection, onto the field.   The negatives of the former is that the offense will know who is pass rushing and who isn't.  There isn't that surprise factor.  The main concern for the offense is figuring out the coverage and not who is going to pass rush.  The benefit of the four man rush out of the 3-3 is that there is that surprise factor.  The defense won't know who will be that fourth pass rusher.  Is it the strong side linebacker?  The middle linebacker?  Both of them with the NT dropping back into zone?  The offense is presented with two problems: who is the fourth pass rusher?  And what is the coverage?  On the other hand, the negatives of the four man rush out of a 3-3 is that at least one of the pass rushers will be a linebacker who typically isn't as skilled in pass rush as defensive linemen.  The linebacker may be faster than a defensive lineman, but he often doesn't have the moves or technique to get by pass blocks. 

Is one better than the other?  Not really.  Both can work.  Both can fail.  The defensive coordinator has to utilize them in ways that maximizes their defensive output.  I think against WSU the 4-2 was the better option because it gave Cal more run protection up front - and that was needed because WSU was threatening to run.

(15) Ludwig masks the inside zone for once.  Recall last week I criticized Ludwig on the inside zone runs:

(2) Cal's inside zone runs tip off the defense to which side the offense is going to run to before the snap.  These are the plays where Cal motions a WR who stops on the backside (the side of the offense that Cal is running away from) to block the backside defender.  When Cal does this, it's obvious it's a run as since Cal doesn't playaction out of the inside zone (we have in previous years but we really haven't seen it this year).  It also tips off the defense as to which way the run is going.

Well Ludwig showed off a new play which masks this tendency a bit.  Clearly, Ludwig reads the CGB (just kidding, there is 0% chance he actually reads the crap I write).  No, but seriously, he did show off a new play which masked his inside zone run call better.  The play can be seen in this video below at the 0:40 mark . 

 

Instead of using a WR, he uses a TE.  That's significant.  Plus, Ludwig starts out the TE in the slot,  which is something Cal doesn't normally do and it probably had the defense thinking (and maybe even confused) for a bit.  Plus, Ludwig didn't have the TE stop on the backside of the formation to seal off the backside defender.  Instead, he kept the motion coming from the playside and had the TE kick out the backside defender with a cut block.  Cal used to run (essentially) this play A TON in 2007.  The difference was that we didn't use pre-snap motion.  Instead, Cal would line up with twin TEs to one side out of 12 personnel and bring the H-back from playside to backside to cut block the backside defender. 

A stunt can be seen at 6:50 in the video above too. 

(16) Cal's screen game recognition was a lot better this game.  In previous games, Cal's DL has been a bit slow to respond to screens.  But against WSU, I felt like they were doing a great job reacting to screens.

(17) Cal needs to pass out of the Bearcat.  It's gotta happen.  Defenses will know it's possible when Vereen takes the snap as since Best doesn't throw.  But the Bearcat can get really hard to defend if we start throwing out of it - even if it is rarely.  Vereen knows it.  He wants to do it.  You know it.

 

 

1:25 - great play by WSU.  Nearside twin WRs run bubble screen fake.  The slot WR swings out giving the impression of a swing or bubble.  The split end (the WR on the LOS) runs a go and is open.  Tool pump fakes a pass to the split end, but the Cal safety to that side of the field doesn't bite on the fake.  The split end is attacking the Cal safety on Cal's right side of the defense (#29 Ezeff) and wanted the Cal safety (Ezeff) to that side to bite on the split end and pump fake.  Doing so would have dropped the Cal safety to that side of the field down (towards the LOS), and the WSU WR (that the pass was actually thrown to) would have slipped behind the Cal safety (Ezeff) for a huge gain or touchdown (had the pass actually been completed).  Great play design right here by WSU that attempts to take advantage of the Cal defense who had been baited all game long by that bubble/swing and go combination by twin WRs.

3:38 - Recall this post about USC running a great zone read bubble screen combination?  WSU runs essentially the same play right here but out of a different formation.  The zone read look gets the backside defender (Cal #47) to freeze, giving more time and space for the slot WR to get the pass and run.

7:03 - Offensive tendency.  Cal tips off pass with Vereen stepping up and becoming shallower right after Riley changes the play.  Deep 7 yard alignment = run.  Shallower 6 yard alignment = pass.  This is also one of Cal's staple plays although it is not usually run out of the 21 personnel strong-I.

 

 

4:18 - Gregory purposefully calling lots of stunts at DE and DT to counter the zone read look?  On this play the LE and DT stunt.  The stunt acts very much like a scrape exchange although it's between the LE and DT, and not a DE and the backside LB.

5:35 - corner blitz (left side of screen).  Missed tackle makes for easy gain.  Looks like man coverage.

6:40 - man coverage, 5 man rush, no deep safety.  Looks like Syd should have been there actually (Syd was in the left slot, and the Cal Safety took the left slot WR leaving Syd free to roam, Syd looks to be too shallow to give deep help).

 

 

0:50 - new kickoff coverage scheme visible.

1:14 - tricky little WSU play.  Looks like zone read, and the TE fakes the zone block (he ignores the backside defender which is normal on this type of play to help sell the zone read look), and then runs a flag for an easy catch in space without anyone around).  Very cool addition to a team's zone read looks.  Very cool.

2:25 - man coverage.  WSU killin' us with the curls.

3:05 - great view of Cal's power man scheme. 

3:25 - Cal zone read; Riley keeps

3:50 - you can tell this is already going to be pass before the audible and snap because the RB is too shallow.

 

 

 

2:30 - Cal's LG pulls on playaction for pass protection.  This is a new scheme Ludwig has installed this year.

3:10 - Cal's inside zone.  Ludwig is masking it with the TE split out.  Same play (essentially) as seen above under point #15.

4:25 - stunt on DL, man coverage.  30 yard gain.  You guys still want Gregory to play more man?

5:00 - easy way to get yards against zones is the drag route.  On this play the slot (split end) WR runs a go route to clear out the defenders.  The flanker runs a drag right behind the go route and is open for the easy drag route.

 

 

 

0:05 - man coverage.  I've noticed our slot Cornerbacks play inside leverage to protect the middle.  The thing about using inside leverage is that it puts the cornerback's back to the QB and thus he has to be very good at reading the WR for where the play is and when the ball is coming (if it's coming).  The corners are also vulnerable to the outside release skinny post which WSU runs on this play because it causes the slot cornerback to turn a full 180 degrees from the start of the play rather than something less (such as 90 degrees to cover an out route).

0:50 - man coverage

3:10 - max protection; smash concept (Great for defeating cover 2 and tampa 2 defenses; the outside WR runs a short 5 yard-ish hitch, and slot WR runs flag); twinned WRs run smash; Sweeney checks to the hitch. Sweeney seemed a bit too eager to throw on this play.  I remember this play from the stands because I picked this signal (from the sideline QB) and knew what the play was going to be beforehand.  Although it's hard to see on the video, I do believe the slot WR would have been incredibly open on the flag route had Sweeney given the play another half second.  This is a staple Cal play although rarely run from weak-I formation.

 

HUGE THANKS TO PRD74 FOR GETTING FANTASTIC SHOTS OF THE PLAYS.

I love seeing the defense.  It's such a Christmas present to be able to see the defense on the videos - something you don't normally see on TV broadcasts.  Thanks for getting the entire pre-snap formation too - very helpful.  Thanks for putting these videos together too.  It's much quicker for me to provide quick analysis comments from pre-made videos rather than me photoshopping individual plays.  Thank you PRD74!

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Great post, Hydro (as usual)

My head might explode from all of the information.

Nice video, too. Wow, the student section was embarrassingly empty at the start of the game.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 5:59 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

As to point # 12

This.

I think many in the “this team is a bust” crowd might have not only fallen victim to the overhype, but also had their disappointment exacerbated by the way we lost to Oregon and USC. Those were tough defeats to take emotionally in consecutive weeks. I hope that we’ll continue to improve and get past those defeats. I have a feeling this won’t be a "bust’ year from an objecctive standpoint and if we are able to get as many wins as I think we can realistically get, it will say a lot about this team to have overcome the bitter defeats against UO and SC.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 28, 2009 6:09 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree.

we’ve won 5 games. there have been many many years where that would be progress.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Oct 28, 2009 9:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think if this was an NFL game PRD would be thrown in jail for about 10,000 years for violating their copyright rules or something. (50 years for an SEC game, don’t you dare use Twitter…)

Either way kudos to you and PRD for putting all this together.

by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 7:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Gregory and Ludwig take a lot of heat after the losses, but I actually think that they’re both really good coordinators. The reason why is that every game so far this season, and especially after the losses, I’ve seen new looks, new plays, new formations, etc. It seems like they try to improve game to game, or at the very least change things around, and the ways in which they do so make sense as far as highlighting our personnel strengths and masking our weaknesses. It’s possible to blame them to some degree for lack of execution, or for not reacting faster in the losses, but overall I’d say our losses have stemmed from execution more than gameplans.

Great stuff as usual Hydro. I claim to have ‘seen a new formation’ in the same sense that I claim to have beat Super Mario 3 in ten minutes, i.e., I saw it online.

by sec119 on Oct 28, 2009 7:38 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay,

you may be right, but why do they have to start from so far behind?

by ohsooso on Oct 28, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They did ok in the first three games, aside from Decker being an elite receiver. So if you’re saying they started from so far behind with respect to the season, I disagree with that.

Against better teams in the Pac-10, it’s clear now that our assumptions about improvements or, at minimum, lack of dropoff in the defense and o-line were wrong to begin with. This is as much a personnel issue as anything else, and almost every team has to undergo periods of transition. Even then, there are good and bad points to the USC loss, where I thought the defense would have done ok if not for the lack of QB/offensive execution.

I really have no idea what happened at Oregon. I’d agree with you if you put that on the coaches, since an overall ass-kicking starts from the top. Alternately, I blame the cheerleaders, who must’ve distracted both the coaches and the players.

by sec119 on Oct 28, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with the new kickoff coverage: it was no accident. It looked as if it caused some confusion on the kickoff return’s end of things as guys didn’t know who exactly to block. I think it also provides, as you said, a second wave of available tacklers.

I <3 slants. Would love to see more.

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--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 28, 2009 8:19 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Cal tried out a similar kickoff coverage scheme vs fucla. I think there was 4-5 defenders back instead of just 3.

by Cali49a on Oct 28, 2009 10:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Riley

You know, Riley’s first TD to Jones in the UCLA game was “slightly” against the grain.

by ohsooso on Oct 28, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What was the slants comment about? Do we not run many slants? Given that Tedford runs a pro-style offense that incorporates some west coast style plays (at least that’s my impression of what we do on offense), that would really surprise me. Slants are generally very common for that kind of offense.

Statistically, this is horrible. But I don’t think it was quite as bad as it seemed or something that was wholly unexpected.

I think the first point is correct, I don’t think the next point is fair. You can always say “if so and so didn’t happen, we did well”….but that ignores the fact that it did happen, and the fact that the baseline we compare our numbers to includes big plays – that is, we don’t remove any big plays from what our goal for YPA is. To me, I think this is more telling of how our pass defense played:

Cal was definitely more willing to take away the deep ball and give up shorter passes underneath
WSU had deep completions of 68 yards, 33 yards, and 31 yards from some of their WRs

I didn’t see the game, but I will at least acknolwedge, based on reading all your guys comments, that it seems like we were much better in the 2nd half than 1st half, so at least that’s a good sign (I think).

by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 9:46 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I believe the lack of slants is due to Riley’s preceived inaccuracy on short-yardage throws

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 9:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And also Boateng being injured, I think.

by sec119 on Oct 28, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So there is a lack of slants then?

by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 28, 2009 10:51 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I believe the lack of slants is due to Riley’s preceived inaccuracy on short-yardage throws

Yep :)

Regarding point #4 (and I’m more than positive that I am thinking about the same pass play pointed out), this was an incompletion to Calvin and the pass was not only low but a bit behind him from my vantage point. Hydrotech is indeed correct that this would have been a 7-8 yard gain and an easy first down had the ball been placed on the money. To be fair to Riley, we don’t know if Calvin was lined up in the right spot (0.5-1.0 yard too close to the OL) and that very well could have thrown off Riley. However, it looked like Calvin ran a solid route to me and Riley just threw a not so catchable pass. I think this play is another indication of why we don’t see too many slants. Slants are about precision and our QB/WRs look to not be on the same page a good chunk of the time.

I’m harping on this point because this drive started in Wazzu territory and after this incompletion, the very next play Riley threw the INT. A simple routine pass for a lot of other offenses, which would have kept our drive going and likely would have resulted in a score, was a bullet in our own foot. It’s little things like this, the smallest execution errors, that can flip the outcome of a game.

by Cali49a on Oct 28, 2009 10:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was really surprised with the amount of new plays/procedures the coaching staff was trying Saturday. From what Tedford has said at press conferences, it looks like some of this will be implemented more often. Hydro, do you think this game was an “experimental” one of sorts where the coaching staff wanted to test certain plays against a lesser opponent before trying them in upcoming games?

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 28, 2009 10:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey I STOOD RIGHT NEXT TO YOU and shot the entire game on video camera, and this is the thanks I get???

This hurts man. Hurts. (Not really though, PRD’s video is better.)

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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 10:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Huge props to Avinash! What he went through last weekend must have been hellish. Trying to hold a camera steady for the entire game combined with a blinding and super hot sun in your face is a feat not to be belittled. I had none of those obstacles, Monopod, no sun, and friends and family surrounding me made it easy (okay, not easy, but easier). The whole purpose of my videos was to give the blog analysts (CGB and TBWNQ) something to look at. Reading Hydrotech’s excellent recap made my whole uncomfortable day worthwhile. Thanks!

by prd74 on Oct 28, 2009 8:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s all the validation I ever wanted!

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by Avinash on Oct 29, 2009 7:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck you, you worthless piece of shit.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 29, 2009 7:43 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Translation: Go Bears!

by prd74 on Oct 29, 2009 7:51 AM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

Why does my wife say “Go Bears” then at me so much?

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by TwistNHook on Oct 29, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twist, you don’t have to repeat everything your wife says to you on this site. It’s uncouth.

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by Avinash on Oct 29, 2009 8:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey guys, thanks for all the hard work here. Even going so far as taking a video camera to the game! you guys are great. I had to take friends out to Napa so I couldn’t go to the game. It was really frustrating not being able to watch the game AT ALL even afterward on ESPN360. If I wasn’t downing champagne and foie gras, I would definitely have gone a little crazy. Muchas gracias por todo senors!

by since1997 on Oct 28, 2009 10:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

It was actually a boring game, never close and WSU took a lot of penalties that stopped the flow.

by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 11:25 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gee, you’re welcome for the free video too.

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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 11:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I properly thanked those involved for the video in the appropriate threads :)

(At least I know I did for PRD…)

by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 11:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No problemas senora…senorita? Crapas.

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by Avinash on Oct 28, 2009 1:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like to think senorita but if you were born before 1979 I guess that means senora… ugh… :)

by since1997 on Oct 28, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always thought it was the difference between Miss and Mrs

/ignorantwhiteguy

by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 3:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was my understanding as well. Though I am just as white (if not whiter) than you.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 28, 2009 6:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You live on an island, you win. (Although I used to live there as well….)

by turkey on Oct 28, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(11) Cal’s defense allowed 4.0 yards per rush but was actually even better than that statistic suggests. The official statistics say the defense only allowed 2.0 yards per rush but that is taking into account yards from sacks which occurred on passing plays not run plays. Such a statistic is very misleading.

Conversely, the passing stats are misleading because they don’t count sacks, which are essentially negative pass plays.

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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Oct 28, 2009 1:18 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think so. I mean, we all think of stats relative to baselines. Since we never include sack yardage in passing yards, when we mentally compare the YPA to numbers we know to be good/bad, we’re still making an equal comparison….

by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 2:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m just saying if you’re going to take the sack numbers out of the rush stats, you might as well count them in the passing stats. In any case, it’s bad accounting to ignore them entirely.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Oct 28, 2009 2:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m ok not including them in YPA numbers, but you’re right they should be included somewhere. Give them a seperate category? X sacks for Y yards?

by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

As HydroTech mentions, penalty yards aren’t included in offensive stats either, so that’s bad accounting too. Ultimately, you’ve got to reconcile them for yourself.

by sycasey on Oct 28, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Penalty yards are a thing unto themselves, though, they exist in their own category. (Hence the category “penalty yards.”) I’m just saying that since a sack is a pass play ending in negative yardage, it should be counted against the passing numbers. I understand better what Missing Barry was getting at now though, since if you’re going to change the accounting you have to do it on a consistent basis or else you fuck up the standardization of the thing.

(Maybe I should just create an unusual statistics emporium. Air yards! Points allowed by the defense! YAC! It would be awesome.)

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Oct 28, 2009 10:24 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The NFL treats sacks as negative pass yards.

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Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
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by PaulThomas on Oct 28, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Aren’t they treated as team passing yards, though, and not yards against the QB? Basically, my opinions are 100% because of the baselines I personally use and have some knowledge of, which are YPA for QB’s, and YPC for RB’s (at the individual, not team level, though)…

by Missing Barry on Oct 28, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn't THAT empty....

I took a lot of shots of the student section. Granted this one is closer to halftime, but I have a few shots from 1st Q also. Too bad I’m doing some HDD imaging work so I can’t access my workstation and pull some photos off

by dmo580 on Oct 28, 2009 9:25 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, the students are very spaced out. Trust me, I was in the student section. If you squished them all down and to the edges, as they would be in a normal high attendance game, it was probably only about 50% full.

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by HydroTech on Oct 28, 2009 10:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need to start playing night games. ABC always picks us up for the 12:30 slot =(

STAY THIRSTY, MY FRIENDS

by Thoroughbred on Oct 29, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OSU is scheduled for 4pm, and the Arizona game stands a good chance of being a later start as well, so you may get your wish!

by sycasey on Oct 29, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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