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Our DBD kicks things off with a doozy: Cal profs want Cal Athletics to stop subsidizing sports.

But a growing number of Cal academics are disturbed by the practice, arguing that the prestigious research university should not subsidize elite athletes at a time of soaring college costs, faculty furloughs and reduced course offerings.

The faculty, which will debate the issue at next month's Faculty Senate meeting, is not alone. Now the independent Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics - formed 20 years ago by the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation to raise academic standards in college sports - is turning its attention to an out-of-control "arms race" among college football programs competing to pay increasingly high coaches' salaries and other associated costs.

"The data is eye-opening and quite troubling - athletic expenditures are rising three or four times faster than academic budgets," said William "Brit" Kirwan, chancellor of the University System of Maryland. He's co-chairman of the Knight Commission, which on Monday released a survey of university presidents' views on the cost of programs in the Football Bowl Subdivision, the nation's 120 top college football teams.

"We're painfully aware of the global fiscal implosion and the impact it's having on academic institutions," Kirwan said. "As a result, 75 percent of presidents say we can't continue on this path."

Deficits common

Only 24 of the 120 top teams operate in the black, with deficits averaging $10 million per school, he said.

Those deficits are typically made up by loans or gifts of university funds.

This year, UC Berkeley's Department of Intercollegiate Athletics - whose football team is in the Bowl Subdivision - is projected to run a deficit of nearly $6 million, rising to $6.4 million next year.

To make ends meet, Chancellor Robert Birgeneau expects to lend the athletes more than $12 million by the end of next year from a $165 million discretionary fund of interest income, gifts and undesignated bequests, said Cal spokesman Dan Mogulof.

The athletics department itself has a budget of nearly $65 million, which it uses for everything from heating the swim team's pool to paying football coach Jeff Tedford's salary - $2.3 million last year.

No tax money goes into that budget. Mogulof said it's funded from a combination of revenue from the men's football and basketball teams, gifts, student registration fees and the chancellor's funds.

It's not enough

But the income isn't enough. For years, the athletics department has spent more than it has taken in.

"The chancellor is disturbed by these deficits and is pressing athletics to close the gap as quickly as possible," Mogulof said, noting that the terms of repayment for the current loans have not been decided.

The last time the athletes ran up a multiyear debt - owing the university $31.4 million by 2007 - the bill was forgiven, according to a written explanation of Cal's athletics budget and policies prepared in response to questions from the faculty.

Some debt-ridden academic programs have also had loans forgiven, the document says.

But Birgeneau "is fully committed to ensuring that the short-term loans will be paid back in full," Mogulof said.

Meanwhile, a group of faculty members who have dubbed themselves a Sports Grinch Club objects to the use of any university funds being spent on intercollegiate athletics.

"We ought to stop subsidizing this program," said Michael O'Hare, a professor at Cal's Goldman School of Public Policy. He and others say the loss to the school far outweighs any benefit because elite athletes generally have lower graduation rates and receive unfair benefits compared with regular students.

He said the Faculty Senate - the voice of tenured instructors in university governance - will consider a nonbinding resolution at its Nov. 5 meeting to end the subsidies.

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Home prices rise for the third straight month.

Renowned Bay Area Landscape Architect Lawrence Halprin dies:

 

Lawrence Halprin, the Bay Area landscape architect who pushed the design of America's urban spaces in new directions over a career that spanned 60 years, died Sunday of natural causes. He was 93.

He left his mark at all scales, from the crafting of San Francisco's Ghirardelli Square in the 1960s to the transformation of the 52-acre base of Yosemite Falls that was completed in 2005.

Mr. Halprin's best-known national work is the Franklin Delano Roosevelt Memorial in Washington, D.C. - a saga that began when he won a design competition in 1976 but wasn't completed until the memorial opened in 1997.

"He was the single most influential landscape architect of the postwar years," said Charles Birnbaum, president of the Cultural Landscape Foundation. "He redefined the profession's role in cities."

The article notes that he also did Greenwood Common and Sproul Plaza.

This guy loves making the walls of buildings covered with ivy.

California’s never ending water war continues, this time involving Delta water which provides water for 24 million people or two-thirds of the entire state population (including SoCal).  I don’t know about you, but I’m a little skeptical the yahoos in Sacramento are going to get this right.

 West Hollywood: The place for Halloween.

‘Shroom in Mendocino.

Cougar has her prey: "Age thing" doesn’t stop this San Mateo couple:

Greg Sanders was 21 and a recent transplant from St. Louis when the naturally exuberant Debra DuPree, then 35, drove up next to him on Highway 101 and started waving her hands. His truck was splashed with stickers for Dent Wizard, advertising dent repair. He thought the animated blonde was trying to get him to pull over and give her an estimate.

 For runaways, sex buys survival (NYT).

 Well this is depressing: Only 2% of integrated circuits used for military purposes are built in the USA.  The article says that Trojan horses represent one of the most severe threats to our military (NYT).

We didn’t start the fire: CalFire possibly lit up the Santa Cruz mountains.  I believe they’re typically a rag-tag unit comprised of firefighters no city or county would want coupled with prisoners.

Chronicle’s new strategy is working: Charge more, distribute less.   Not to worry, I still get their news for free.  Did you know a NYT regional office went up in SF and will deliver a 2-4 page long Bay Area section?

In the first of a seven part series, the NYT present skullduggery.  This article is in regards to FDR and the Dakota droughts of 1936.

Cancer: Treatment and Research 

In what I consider to be kick-ass news, Cal and UCSF are teaming up to understand cancer:

Scientists at UC Berkeley and UCSF have formed a research center to explore the physical principles that govern the origin and behavior of cancer cells, and how they multiply in humans.

With a five-year, $15.6 million grant from the National Cancer Institute, the UC researchers have formed the Physical Sciences-Oncology Center where they will seek to understand the mysterious ways that cancer - its onset and responses to radiation and chemotherapy - are subject to the laws of physics.

The NCI announced the new grant Monday and said that related centers with similar goals have been created at 11 other major universities and research centers, and that all the groups will be collaborating with each other.

Physicists, chemists, engineers and mathematicians will be linked with physicians to probe the mechanisms of the disease's many aspects. Researchers at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory and UCSF's Helen Diller Comprehensive Cancer Center also will be included.

"By bringing a fresh set of eyes to the study of cancer, these new centers have a great potential to advance, and sometimes challenge, accepted theories about cancer and its supportive microenvironment," said Dr. John E. Niederhuber, the NCI director. "Physical scientists think in terms of time, space, pressure, heat, and evolution in ways that we hope will lead to new understandings of the multitude of forces that govern cancer - and with that understanding, we hope to develop new and innovative methods of arresting tumor growth and metastasis."

Director of the new UC center is Berkeley research biophysicist Jan T. Liphardt, and the co-director is UCSF pathologist Thea Tlsty. Neither could be reached for comment.

If there are any undergrads or grads reading this, think about getting involved with this.  What a perfect combination.  Thank you stimulus money! 

Cancers can vanish without treatment…but how? (NYT).  Also, MD Anderson might be the best thing ever associated with Houston (NYT).  I mean, it’s a helluva lot better than Bush International Airport, amirite?

Sports

Big Mac’s returning to baseball as hitting coach for Tony LaRussa's Cardinals.  Read the comment section.

And the Taylor Mays/dirty player thing continues: Pac10 suspends ref for missing facemask call in USC-Oregon St game.

Wilner has an interesting piece re: the WAC and Boise St (Merc).

The human body was built for running distance (NYT).

World Series managers have different styles:

Philadelphia Phillies Manager Charlie Manuel is a 65-year-old potbellied baseball lifer who honed his instincts in minor league outposts like Colorado Springs and Wisconsin Rapids, Wis. He comes armed with data but is more likely to play a hunch, to go with his gut. His counterpart on the Yankees, Joe Girardi, is a 45-year-old workout fanatic with a degree in industrial engineering from Northwestern. As much as any manager around, he is comfortable with statistics and employs a modern approach to his job.

 

 BWNQ has a nice Cal-Wazzu highlights post up.

  

BWF recaps Cal-Wazzu:

Struggling Secondary
It’s about as official as it can be: Cal’s pass defense is struggling right now. Cal’s secondary was again lit up for major yardage on Saturday, this time from true freshman Jeff Tuel. Tuel had a career day, going 28-42 for 354 yards, two touchdowns and no interceptions. As some comparison, check out Tuel’s numbers in previous outings:

Against ASU: 11-22, 175 yards, and 2 TDs, 2 INTs
Against USC: 14-22, 130 yards, 1 INT

Yes. Cal allowed Tuel to rack up more than double the yardage of his ASU performance. Perhaps Tuel suddenly clicked as a quarterback. Perhaps. However, it’s far more likely that he faced off against a secondary that has some major issues, as this isn’t the first time this season.

Last week, UCLA frosh QB Kevin Prince also had a career day, completing 21 of 41 for 311 yards. His previous performances had included a 13-25 for 81 yard (1 INT) game against Arizona, and a 11-23, 101 yard (1 TD) game against Tennessee.

Two weeks prior to that game, USC true frosh Matt Barkley went 20-35 for 283 yards, also his highest yardage total of the season.

In the week before that, Oregon’s Jeremiah Masoli who had just completed 45.3% of his passes for just 379 yards went ballistic on the Bears, going 21-15 for 253 yards and 3 TDs.

The list goes on: Minnesota’s Adam Weber going 21-32 for 226 yards, EWU Matt Nichol’s efficient 23-31 for 195 yards and 1 TD game, etc.

As it stands now, the Bears are ranked 9th in the conference, just ahead of WSU, in passing yards allowed per game, with 271. That’s a whole heck of a lot of yards.

Now, to be fair, opposing teams throw on the Bears…a lot. Cal has the second highest number of passes thrown at them a game, so it’s expected that teams might rack up the yards in the air. But I think it might be more indicative of opposing teams' knowledge of our vulnerablity in our secondary right now.

We’ll talk about the pass rush in a second, but it became apparent that the yardage allowed on Saturday was more on the secondary than anything else. From what I’ve been seeing over the past few weeks and from what I gathered from the broadcast, defenders missed tackles, and weren’t closing on the ball quickly enough. There are also several plays in which there was miscommunication in zone coverage, allowing receivers to get open up top. And in some instances, like the TD over Nnabuife, some players just got straight up beat in their attempt to go up and make a play on the ball.

No one will dispute Cal's secondary struggled on Saturday. Both Bob Gregory and Coach Tedford admitted as much. But you can’t dispute the numbers anymore. Allow 354 passing yards to the worst offense in the conference is bad. Allowing 300+ yards in back to back games to the conference's two worst passing offenses is ever worse. And allowing 250+ yards through the air in the last four games is enough to make you sweat. And while I do think much of it was effort and focus, the results over the season thus far suggest that Cal’s secondary is the obvious weak spot of the entire defense, and perhaps the entire team. (Thank you Captain Obvious!)

Now with Cal’s offense ability to score a great deal, and the fact that we’ve played one-dimensional offenses the past few weeks, Cal’s secondary hasn’t been enough to cost the Bears any games. But unless the issues in the secondary and defensive schemes are addressed in the next few weeks, Cal is going to be unable to keep up with some of the better offenses they will see in Arizona, Oregon State, Stanford, and Washington (if Locker gets going).

Anyone else see Sean Canfield against the Trojans on Saturday night? Scary.

Pass Rush TBD
I had suggested last week that Cal’s issue in its pass defense started first and foremost in the pass rush. And in a way, we saw this validated a bit on Saturday. Cal managed just one sack in the first half, meanwhile allowing Tuel to go 15-22 for 232 yards and 2 TDs. Coincidentally, after the Bears switched to having 4 down linemen for much of the second half, the Bears racked up four additional sacks, meanwhile limited Tuel to just 122 yards on 13-20 passing.

I don’t think the players suddenly decided to try harder. Perhaps it was a renewed focus after the defensive letdown in the second quarter, but I do think that this defense may have to dial up more aggressive packages if they’re going to hold more legitimate offense to less than 20 points in upcoming games.

Kudos to the Bears’ D-Line, which has thus far been the rock of this defense this season. They’re going to continue to get additional support from their linebackers, when it comes to the pass rush though.

Jason Snell (EMFMV) has an interesting post up re: strength of schedule:

I was perusing Jeff Sagarin’s computer ratings this morning. His composite ranking places Cal 17th in the country overall, though his Predictor rating (which is more accurate, though less politically correct because it takes into account margin of victory) places them 28th.

I was more amused by the ratings of the teams Cal has played this year. Talk about three stinkers: Maryland is rated 115th overall (below a few I-AA schools), Washington State is rated 119th, and I-AA Eastern Washington is rated just one slot below the Cougars at 120th.

Cal’s other wins were over Sagarin #42 UCLA and Sagarin #59 Minnesota.

In contrast, Cal’s losses? To Sagarin #3 Oregon and Sagarin #5 USC. That’s the good news. The bad news? Cal has yet to play Sagarin #14 Arizona, Sagarin #23 Stanford, and Sagarin #24 Oregon State. In terms of the pure Predictor rating, Sagarin would predict that Cal will finish the season 9-3, with wins over Arizona, ASU, and Washington and a loss to Stanford (!). I can’t really call that an unreasonable prediction. It might even be optimistic. 

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VBall player named Pac10 player of the week:

WALNUT CREEK, Calif. – California volleyball senior outside hitter Hana Cutura has been named the Pacific-10 Conference Player of the Week for the week of Oct. 19-25, Commissioner Larry Scott announced today (Oct. 26). This is Cutura’s first player of the week award and the 25th time a Golden Bear has been selected for the honor.

Cutura led the Bears to their third consecutive victory as they defeated No. 16 Arizona, 3-1, and Arizona State, 3-0. Cutura had a career-high 31 kills against the Wildcats as she committed just one error on 47 attacks to post an astronomical .638 attack percentage. She also recorded her sixth double-double of the season with 11 digs and had Cal’s only solo block of the night. She followed up with a 21-kill performance in just three sets against the Sun Devils. She registered those 21 kills on just 32 attacks (three errors) to put up a .562 attack percentage as the Bears enjoyed their most efficient offensive outing of the season (.426 attack rate, 49k, 101att). She also added seven digs and three blocks.

On the weekend, Cutura averaged 7.43 kills in each set and attacked at a .608 rate (52 kills, four errors, 79 attacks) to go with 2.57 digs per set. She scored 54.5 points to average 7.79 pps. Cutura also surpassed fellow Cal All-American outside hitter Angie Pressey to move into third place on the all-time career kills list with 1,736. For the season, Cutura leads the Pac-10 in kills (5.07 kps) and points (5.58 pps). In addition, her marks in kills and points rank third and fourth in the NCAA, respectively.

The No. 14-ranked Bears remain at home this week to host No. 11 UCLA (16-6, 6-3 Pac-10) on Friday, Oct. 30, at 7 p.m. PT, and No. 16 USC (15-6, 4-5 Pac-10) on Saturday, Oct. 31, at 7 p.m. PT. Please check CalBears.com for more information.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 7:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Men’s tennis singles player to take on Stanford player

BERKELEY – No. 42-ranked California men’s tennis junior Pedro Zerbini earned a spot in the 2009 Wilson/ITA Northwest Regional singles championship match Monday, Oct. 26, at the Hellman Tennis Complex by defeating junior Bozhidar Katsarov in the semifinal, 6-2, 6-2. Zerbini will face No. 15-ranked Bradley Klahn of Stanford in the singles final at 1:30 p.m. PT Tuesday, Oct. 27.

Sophomore Sky Lovill won his sixth consecutive match as he defeated San Francisco’s Asaf Cohen, 7-5, 4-6, 1-0(11-9) in the consolation final. Lovill endured a long day as he also went three sets with Tobi Obenaus of Washington in the consolation semifinal. Lovill won that match, 6-3, 1-6, 1-0(10-5).

The last two Golden Bear doubles teams standing were eliminated from contention in successive rounds each by the top-seeded No. 8-ranked team of Klahn and Ryan Thacher of Stanford. Katsarov and freshman Riki McLachlan fell to the Cardinal duo, 8-5, in the quarterfinal. Sophomore Nick Andrews and freshman Christoffer Konigsfeldt teamed up to defeat Kyle McMorrow and Jeevan Nedunchezhiyan of Washington, 9-8, with a 7-4 win in the tiebreaker but the Cal tandem bowed out to the Stanford team, 8-3, in the semifinal.

Play concludes with the doubles championship match taking place at noon PT on Tuesday, Oct. 27. The singles championship will begin not before 1:30 p.m. PT. The winners of each will earn an automatic berth to the 2009 ITA National Indoor Tennis Championships in New Haven, Conn. Nov. 5-8. For complete draws, results and schedules, please visit www.tennisinformation.com and search for tournament No. 5192914.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 7:24 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Womens BBall to host Media Day:

The California Women’s basketball team held its annual Media Day on Monday, Oct. 26. Coach Boyle along with senior guards Lauren Greif, Natasha Vital, and Alexis Gray-Lawson answered questions about the upcoming season.

“We are really looking forward to a great season,” head Coach Joanne Boyle said in her opening remarks. “This year will be a little different. We lived a lot of veterans but we’ve also gained a lot of depth and young people in the program. So we have a balance of really experienced and mature upper classmen and adding that group of youth and depth will make for a very interesting season.”

The team will be lead by the three senior returning guards, Alexis Gray-Lawson, Lauren Greif, and Natasha Vital. Gray-Lawson, a first team All-Pac-10 selection last year is the leading scorer among the returners, averaging 12.2 points per game last season.

“I am really excited and do what I have to do to win,” said Alexis Gray-Lawson, who is coming back for her fifth and final season with Cal.“Whatever that takes and that’s what I’m doing. I will try to rebound a little bit more.”

The most common questions dealt with the new look to the Cal roster. With six freshman among the 11 players on the team, everyone wanted to know how things were starting to shape up among the newcomers.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 7:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Womens Tennis edged:

STANFORD, Calif. – The California women’s tennis completed play at the 2009 Wilson/ITA Northwest Regional Championship Monday, Oct. 26, at the Taube Family Tennis Stadium with players in both the singles and doubles championship matches. But the Golden Bears fell short of each title as No. 4-ranked junior Jana Juricova surrendered her top seed to No. 58-ranked Denise Dy of Washington, 6-3, 6-3, in the singles final.

In doubles play, Cal’s No. 2-ranked tandem of junior Mari Andersson and Juricova defeated one Stanford pair in the semifinal with an 8-6 win over Mallory Burdette and Stacy Tan. But the Bears were taken out by Stanford’s No. 3-ranked team of Hilary Barte and Lindsay Burdette, 8-3, in the championship final.

For complete final results, please visit www.tennisinformation.com and search for tournament ID No. 5192902. Cal women’s tennis is in action next at the 2009 Arizona State Thunderbird Invitational in Tempe, Ariz., Nov. 6-8. Juricova will head to New Haven, Conn. Nov. 5-8, for the 2009 ITA National Indoor Championships.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 7:26 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Q+A with Women’s Soccer player:


BERKELEY – This weekend’s games against Arizona (Friday, Oct. 30 at 2:30 p.m.) and Arizona State (Sunday, Nov. 1 at 1 p.m.) are the final home games of the 2009 regular season and the final home games for the squad’s six seniors. This week, CalBears.com will be running a Q&A with each of the team’s six seniors – goalkeeper Rosie Aguilera, defender Brianna Bak, forward Torrey Delaplane, forward Lisa Kevorkian, midfielder Katie Oakes and goalkeeper Gina Pellegrini. CalBears.com had a chance to discuss the seniors’ years in Berkeley and what being a part of the Cal women’s soccer program has meant to them, and today’s participant is Gina Pellegrini.

Gina Pellegrini, who hails from Santa Rosa, Calif., is a senior goalkeeper majoring in mass communications. As of Oct. 26, she has a 5-6-0 record in goal, with 22 saves and a 1.46 goals-allowed percentage. Last year, Gina Pellegrini was the primary goalkeeper, playing in 17 games, starting 15 and notching four shutouts. Pellegrini, the 2008 Italian-American Amateur Athlete of the Year, is a two-time Pac-10 All-Academic honorable mention.

CalBears.com: What is your best Cal story or favorite Cal experience?
Gina Pellegrini: I think I would have to say our trip to Italy this past summer.
 

 


CalBears.com: What will you miss most about Cal?
GP: I will miss the team the most. They are all like family to me and I love them so much. It’s going to be hard not seeing everyone every day. I’m really going to miss being with my senior class all the time – especially my roommate Brianna Bak!

CalBears.com: What are your career plans and what are you plans after graduation?
GP: After graduation I intend on pursuing a culinary career. If not that, then hopefully working for a food magazine. Being on Food Network would be a dream job.

CalBears.com: Has Cal lived up to or has it been different/better than the expectations you had of it as a freshman?
GP: Aside from the some of the soccer politics over the last four years that have made waves, Cal has been everything I could have ever wanted and more. I would not have changed a thing – everything happens for a reason, and I could not be happier that I came here. I have had an amazing four years, and I can’t believe how fast it’s flown by!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 7:27 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

XC Prepares for Pac10 Championships:

CAL READIES FOR PAC-10 CHAMPIONSHIPS: The Cal men’s and women’s cross country teams will travel to Long Beach, Calif., Friday for the Pac-10 championships to be held on the Sky Links Golf Course. The men’s 8000-meter race will begin at 3 p.m., with the women’s 6000-meter event getting underway at 4 p.m.

The Cal men have finished third the past two seasons – their highest placing at the conference meet in history. However, the Bears’ top three runners from a year ago have either exhausted their eligibility or are redshirting, and Cal may be hard-pressed to repeat its results with a young group that doesn’t include a senior among its ranks. Kari Karlsson, who was fourth among the Bears at ‘08 Pac-10s with a 31st-place finish, led Cal in the team’s most recent outing, taking 51st at the Pre-Nationals meet.

The Golden Bear women were eighth last season and also have a young crew, and they are looking to move up in the standings. Sophomore Deborah Maier has had two outstanding races so far, with a fourth-place finish at the Stanford Invitational and a 13th-place standing at Pre-Nationals. She was a Cal-best 41st at last year’s Pac-10s.

More detailed information on the Pac-10 championships can be found online at: http://www.pac-10.org/championships/2009-xc.html.

MAIER, KARLSSON PACE BEARS AT PRE-NATIONALS: Sophomore Deborah Maier led the Cal women to a 13th-place finish among 37 teams at the Pre-Nationals Invitational Oct. 17 in Terre Haute, Ind., as the Bears placed ahead of two ranked programs (No. 12 Baylor, No. 27 Northern Arizona). Maier was 13th out of 247 runners on a course that will also host the NCAA championships next month. The Cal men were 18th in their race and were paced by Kari Karlsson, who was 51st. Only one senior – Alison Greggor – competed for either squad, as Cal’s scoring runners combined to feature two freshmen, four sophomores, three juniors and a senior between the teams.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 7:28 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

"Some profs"=Laura Nader and some tenured hack jobs?

It’s really disappointing the Chronicle is even reporting on this nonsense, these people are a small small minority on campus. Plus of course they single out football (the most profitable of the sports) and completely ignore the non-revenue sports, which operate at a default loss almost every year. Just seems like professors who are jealous of football.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 7:33 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I’ve always wondered if increased interest in the football program has increased alumni donations to Cal in general. It seems logical that it would – the increased visibility of the school via football would seem likely to encourage more donations. But I’ve never seen any numbers on this.

by CalBear81 on Oct 27, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In the future (when and if I ever have the money), I will be donating to the football program. I think a lot of the students who went to school during the Tedford era will have fond memories of the good teams and players —> increased donations down the road

STAY THIRSTY, MY FRIENDS

by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

when and if I ever have the money

Woah there, even after selling 25 shares of JPM, you still don’t have money to donate?!

Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!

by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am unemployed and un-degreed

STAY THIRSTY, MY FRIENDS

by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m just teasing you. Feel the <3

Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!

by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hat you.

STAY THIRSTY, MY FRIENDS

by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's the UC way!
But I’ve never seen any numbers on this.

Be nice if they were transparent.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

USC’s run has increased both alumni donations and applications. I know that SC can’t compete overall with the kind of undergrads that Cal gets, but the increase in statistical quality (however suspect) over the last 10 – 15 years has been startling – especially since 2002.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 11:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed they are. Perhaps it’s reaching a boiling point when profs/researchers get furloughed (who rely on no state tax money) yet football gets $12.4 million and $31.4 million when it needs it from either “discretionary funds” or “forgiving the debt.”*

When the balance between sports and academics is off, that’s not good.

I also really enjoyed the “we’re taking the bus for the UCLA game to do our part” when they took a charter flight for the trip back home.

This mini-rant does not support Ms. Yones’ ***-ness. I presume this piece is factually correct but, knowing Ms. Yones, you can never be certain.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha…formatting fail.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 8:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Taking the bus to save money also doesn’t help when you have to bus down the night before, and spend an extra night in the hotel. Though, it did give the players a much needed extra day to adjust to the heat.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 9:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually that extra night in the hotel was paid for by the Pac-10, so it at least didn’t cost Cal that much extra money.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 9:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plus chartering a flight apparently costs 100K each way. It saved money despite the extra night.

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah…I just like how there were like 5-6 articles on Cal taking the bus, none of which added that they’d be roughin’ it on the way back.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Oct 27, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

extra night in the hotel was paid for by the Pac-10

Did the Pac-10 cover that because of the reason we left a day early (i.e., the early 12:30 kickoff)?

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 27, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep, that’s the reason.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, I'm sure you meant no offense by this

but this comment is really a slap in the face to anyone who is struggling to afford college in California right now. Tell them “Yeah, you see this $6M? Not yours. We’re going to use it to show sports on television.”

I like college sports as much as the next guy, but there are some serious equity issues with a situation in which general fund revenue— which could be used to fund scholarships or need-based aid for students— is going to athletics instead. This sort of dismissive nastiness is completely uncalled for. I don’t know what the best (or rather “least worst”) solution is— and for all I know, it might even be the status quo— but see-no-evil denialism is not helpful in the slightest.

(And yes, I’ll grant you that professors, being as selfish as anyone else, are probably eying that $6M for themselves…)

Bottom line: without more information, it is difficult to guess how much of the program’s income is from football (some of it’s from gifts, and a bit of it is from tickets sold for other sports), and it is also difficult to guess how much of the expenditures are ON football. The information is probably out there somewhere, since it’s a public university. If you think the Chronicle is being unfair, ask them to do additional research into the details of the athletic budget, or do it yourself.

I don’t know, maybe one has to be something of an outsider to this blog to see the problem here.

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by PaulThomas on Oct 27, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The requirement is not so much being an outsider here as having even a modicum of perspective and realizing that there are other things in the world that matter besides sports.

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

part of the problem is also that these

cost analysis do not take into account the ‘marketing’ aspect of sports also. How much of the unrestricted random donations to the university come from people who only remember/learn about it through sports?

is a $5-$6M subsidy worth the currently unknown $ that comes in? It might be.

I don’t know about being an outsider, its more that the few prof’s who get worked up about this present their postition as if sports is killing the university, when a more objective approach says it’s maybe a question of tweaking the balance of a few $ here or there.

and in a campus budget of a billion or so….$6M is a few $.

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by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 9:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

$6M is a lot of money for people who can’t afford to go to college. In fact, $6M could put hundreds of Californians through college.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

6/10ths of 1 % of the campus budget.

it’s about $100 per student of for the 30,000-ish students, IF it was all going to the classroom, which the bulk of the campus budget does not.

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by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How the amount “per student” even relevant? Funding isn’t allocated on a per-student basis.

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I realize college is expensive, but I think tuition needed to go up several years ago and schools like Cal and UCLA should cost more than UCD/UCI/UCSD/UCSB which should cost more than UCR/UCSC/UCM. We should also have half as many CSU’s and make these schools bigger and pump more money into them. I don’t think we need 33 ish public universities. Public school tuition at Cal, wrt to other public institutions in the country as well as private universities, is still cheaper. The best public university in the land in what is the greatest state in the union should be the most expensive public university, imo.

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by carp on Oct 27, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t necessarily disagree with some sort of tiered system; the problem is that the whole point of establishing the UC and CSU systems under the Master Plan was to ensure that a)Every Californian could receive higher education and b)Access to education would be based on merit, not economic means. Public education is one of the main reasons California has been so successful as a state, and now it’s going completely to shit. That’s a major problem for the state’s future.

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I totally agree here.

the larger problem is not $6M in the athletic v. some other budget unit but costs and support of the UC and CSU systems as a whole.

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by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

One of the points of the CSU system is that there are so many of them. Kids living in Chico, or Humboldt County, or Sacramento, or Bakersfield – can get a quality education without the expense of having to move somewhere else. A lot of them are commuter schools – and that is something that is a huge net positive for the state – kids who otherwise wouldn’t have access to college, can go to college relatively inexpensively.

And CSU’s are already significantly cheaper than the UC’s. I guess a tiered UC system makes some sense – as tuition increases, Berkeley is still a good deal, whereas UCR may not be.

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beau Sweeney should also start at quarterback and the Pac-10 sould also take on 2 new schools and become the Pac-12.

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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Oct 27, 2009 4:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's just a way to look at it.

where i work (a landfill) we often find it instructive to look at things as a “per ton of trash” rate.

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by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It can be somewhat misleading though…for example, if you divided the annual UC budget by the population of California, it works out to about $900 per person.

Would you rather have $900 the year or have the UC system exist?

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

certainly can be misleading

but when you can focus your costs and your constituents (students, or tons of trash, or whatever) it can be useful.

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by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

can I keep 750 and have onl Cal exist?

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My thoughts exactly!

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most people would take the $900 because they are focused on the immediate short term gain.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s the same reason people like tax cuts.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 11:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought you didn’t want to debate tax policy?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saying that shortsighted people like tax cuts constitutes debating tax policy?

Does saying I’m getting Thai food for lunch constitute debating foreign policy?

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would think so. Obviously.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re saying that tax cuts are a short-sighted policy and anyone who likes them is short-sighted. Which is fine and all, but that’s clearly a statement of opinion.

Whereas stating that you are getting Thai food is a fact (or a lie if you don’t get it).

Pretty straightforward.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If stating an opinion constitutes having a debate, we must all be master debaters.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean, you’re pretty much provoking a debate that you stated you don’t want!

It’s not even an opinion (tax cuts are bad), it’s a provoking statement (people who like tax cuts are short-sighted).

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad; after all, nobody ever makes provocative statements or offers opinions on CGB!

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Now I understand your username!

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh.

;)

geology baby…the study of everything.

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by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s how ASU looks at their greek system budget!

HIYO!!!!!!!!

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey now....

not all those girls are trash (just trashy)

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by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh, any problem can be trivialized if you look at a wide enough perspective

I mean, all the athletic department deficits in the country probably don’t add up to $1B; compare that to the amount that was spent on TARP. Should there be an “athletics department bailout”?

Like I said, I don’t know what the correct approach here is. I do know, however, that sticking your thumbs in your ears and humming is not the correct approach.

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by PaulThomas on Oct 27, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

but getting everyone worked up over this rather than reform in Sacramento, is going to have less impact. I don’t hear as much from the campus faculty activists about that as about sports.

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by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 9:47 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that the core problem is lack of funding from the state, yes

Well, really, the core problem is lack of funding from the U.S. government, thanks to this country’s medieval approach to education funding. But I’m getting off track here.

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by PaulThomas on Oct 27, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What “reform in Sacramento” would solve the UC system’s budget problems?

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

None of those are directly tied to UC funding, but I’ll bite.

1. I agree with you in principle. The reason that the state budget is so reliant on income tax is Prop 13. Also, 60% of Californians pay income tax, not 1% – and income tax is about a third of the state budget.
2. Yes. People want services but don’t want to pay for them. That’s not Sacramento’s fault; that’s the people’s fault.
3. I agree with this one.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Break down how much tax revenue is funded by the top 1% vs the top 60%

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Largely irrelevant in this context, since the most likely alternative source of tax revenue would be raising business taxes, which I’m reasonably certain you aren’t a fan of either.

Having said that, even I don’t have the stomach to debate tax policy, so let’s not.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

not property tax?

by since1997 on Oct 27, 2009 3:41 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ruh roh

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I never thought the day would come when I agree with you…

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IT’S A KODAK MOMENT!

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t agree the original comment was doing that. The Chronicle makes a fairly vague statement about how many people are actually offended — “a growing [emphasis added] number of Cal academics are disturbed by the practice” — and mentions revenue-generating football in the same critical breath — "an out-of-control “arms race” among college football program" — as non-revenue generating sports. This strikes me as disingenuous.

by sec119 on Oct 27, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well...who expects main stream media to do

a nuanced explaination of a complex problem….

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by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

While I see your point, the arms race in CFB is a very real thing. Especially in regards to salaries of assitant coaches, facilities, recruiting budgets, etc. Basically, the SEC’s setting the curve and everyone else is trying to keep up.

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by carp on Oct 27, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but then, there’s more money coming from television deals, crowds, bowl games, etc.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wha tif I’m really gooda t humming? Like really good!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 11:22 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But… you’re not.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, the professors are “jealous” of football. How dare they actually think anything else is more important than sports? It’s not like a university is an institution of higher education or anything…

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That wasn’t what I was arguing.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You weren’t really making an argument so much “professors sux!! I like FOOTBALL!11”.

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No... but I am

PROFESSORS SUX0RZ!!!! g0 e4t ur vegetables while i wtch FOOTBALL!11 hippie n00b!!!!!11

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did? I was mainly criticizing the Chron for covering a non-issue, i.e. a few rabble rousers like Nader causing a stir. You seem to be thinking I’m criticizing all profs, which isn’t true. Plus the research here is rather poor. I think we’ve debated this before, but football.

And although it really has nothing to do with the original post, YES, I DO LIKE FOOTBALL! IF YOU DON’T THINK I SHOULD YOU CAN GO TO HELL!!!!

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

*but football at least makes money, while the non-revenue sports make none and depend heavily on UC subsidies.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really think this whole argument is honestly a bunch of bickering back-and-forth without some hard data to back it up.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know that data is out there, it’s just really hard to find.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Google failed me :(

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Data on what, specifically?

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Budgets of the revenue programs (for simplicity, football and basketball) and the non-revenue programs, how much of the funding comes from the school vs donors, how much revenue the programs bring in, etc. and this is ignoring the non-quantifiable aspects.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not disputing that football pays for itself. I don’t think anyone is, the data seems fairly clear on that.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Including the costs of a new stadium, etc etc? And minus subsidies?

I’ve tried looking at the data, but there are too many variables.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well…it depends on how you look at it. Like someone pointed out below, we have no way of knowing how much alumni would donate to Cal if they weren’t donating to Cal football. As you say, stuff like that is too hard to quantify.

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that someone was me.

But ignoring impossible-to-quantify factors like those, is the program profitable in an economic sense?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it would ever be profitable – if Cal is like other universities, then once they’ve hit break-even and covered emergency reserves, then the money would be rolled elsewhere.

And I would not be at all surprised if the lack of transparency was deliberate rather than inept.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The funny part of this whole thing is that the Athletic Dept is probably the most “efficient” and business-like user of funds in the whole university system, especially as compared to a lab.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uh, you implied that anyone who doesn’t like football is “jealous” and a “tenured hack job”.

Also, yes, you shouldn’t like football. That’s exactly what I said in my comment.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not that Avinash needs me to defend him, but he did refer specifically to people like Laura Nader and not “anyone who doesn’t like football”. It seems his attack is more against the reporting of the issue and less against the issue itself.

Furthermore, the other point is that football is targeted because it is the largest and most popular sport, yet the data there does not support their argument. However, if they targetted the women’s gymnastic team, no one would listen to them.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He said that people who criticize football are jealous hack jobs, which is kind of absurd.

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There was a question mark!

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, you are a hack job.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your turquoise shirt is a hack job.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not even wearing a turqoise shirt!

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your Axe body wash is a hack job.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think someone pointed this out already, but has anyone else gotten the Axe ads on CGB?

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ad block means never having to see any of them.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t even use Axe Body Wash!

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:45 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You use the Mexican counterpart Axo?

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am so elite that my collars pop themselves. Even when I try to fold them down (like at a funeral or a day of national tragedy) it just won’t work.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find it funny that the non-white, non-frat guy acts the frattiest of them all

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 11:44 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did they not teach satire in your technical writing course?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does Microsoft really look like a company that does satire and irony?

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know, how else could you explain Windows Vista?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sadism?

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I find the two usually go hand-in-hand.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The inability to let go of old code?

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

....Yes!

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No they didn’t. But I took R1A and R1B.

And I know your post prior was satire but that doesn’t stop you from being the frattiest of them all

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by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You realise that part of that also has to do with my being younger than most of them, right?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude Twist is younger than all of us. Yes even rollonubears.

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by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have hit on this before, and Avinash did a great job on a post about it here

Basically, I feel an informed discussion on this, in which people don’t target football (a huge net money maker) but targeted the non-revenue sports is a perfectly valid discussion. More than that, I feel like it is necessary to seriously consider large cuts to non-revenue sports irrespective of whether football revenue can bring the athletic department budget into the black. As I said in that post: The traditional logic was that “football and basketball pay for the others sports.” I assume that is more-or-less true. But there is absolutely no reason that because football and basketball can cover the costs of the other sports, that they should be used to cover these costs.

I know that it sounds wrong to target the non-revenue sports, but it is important to remember that they are played by a tiny fraction of the student body, cost an outrageous sum of money per athlete, and in my opinion give very little benefit to the university community as a whole.

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

…and a discussion in which people do target football is “invalid”?

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 9:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t understand your question

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is your argument that because the football program pays for itself, it should be exempt from criticism?

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think it is exempt from being targeted for its cost, yes. Is there some counterargument here that I don’t understand?

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok; I thought you meant that spending money on a football program should be exempt from criticism at all. I would disagree with that, as the mere fact that you receive returns on an investment doesn’t necessarily justify making that investment in the first place.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, my original ‘this’ referred to the discussion of the cost of intercollegiate sports at Berkeley. If they want to argue that football sux generally then that is fine with me – but that isn’t an argument I see going anywhere in the near future. I think the argument against non-revenue sports, however, is a really good one. If they ignored football, and just targeted those sports, they might actually accomplish something.

I think to argue against football on a cost basis is to show a basic misunderstanding of how college athletics work – hence, I find these arguments to be not “perfectly valid.” At the least, these people should take the time to understand the athletic department’s budget before they attack it.

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree. It’s the “football should be above all criticism” philosophy that I disagree with.

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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do have criticisms of football. On an annual basis Cal football makes money – but that ignores the incredible expense of the new stadium, which benefits only the football team and a few non-revenue athletes, and takes millions in contributions from Alumni that probably could be better spent. (I don’t want to get too specific – we need a stadium. I love football, so personally I am all for it, but if I didn’t love football I wouldn’t be happy about it.)

Additionally…ALAMAR!!!

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IINM, I thought the alumni donations to Cal Football were separate from donations to the school in general.

If that is the case, then assuming that all donations given to Cal Football would go to the school is a fallacious assumption.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, my assumption is just that some of the money would go to the university. I think that is a fairly safe assumption.

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, but are you now assuming that donations given to the athletic department would then be given to the university? You see where this is a problem?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s the way they run it at SC. I don’t donate a nickel to the Athletic Department, they don’t need the help.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am not 100% sure, but I think a general university donation may end up in part with the athletic department. Certainly, it indirectly might through the Chancellor’s discretionary budget as described in the SFGate story.

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, it is my understanding that a small percentage (2%?) of all donations to athletic programs goes to the Cal general fund. You are correct that if you make a general fund donation, some of it can end up in athletics through the Chancellor’s discretionary fund. However, you can designate your donation to go to a particular department or program, in which case none of it will go to athletics. (Of course, that just means that someone else’s general fund money will go to the Chancellor’s discretionary fund, so it all comes out the same.) My practice is always to donate twice as much to the general fund as I do to the athletic department. Much as I love Cal sports, I love our academics twice as much.

by CalBear81 on Oct 27, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only twice? : (

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 27, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorry. Can I make it up to you with a donation to the cannon?

by CalBear81 on Oct 27, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Uhhhh, yes?
We only accept donations in the form of lollipops stolen from small children.

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 27, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But of course you can always be more specific with your donation, and make sure that none of it goes to athletics. I would do that too.

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly, it all depends on how specific you are with your donations. So far, all of my donations back to the University have been specifically to the Cal Band or the College of Engineering, money I’m fairly sure can’t then be spent on athletics.

Of course, in donating to the Band or to Engineering, perhaps that frees up money from the Chancellor’s fund that would otherwise have gone there, and can now go to Athletics…

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You donated money to the band? That money could be used to send one more underprivileged kid to college!

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I donate to the band, too. Poor kids listen to music.

by CalBear81 on Oct 27, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Poor kids watch football!

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

But our football players have yachts according to this site.

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, but what about the poor kid who tugs the sails on Brock Mansion’s Yacht?

Think of the underage tugger.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you’ve seriously overestimated my financial ability to donate back to Cal.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno, I saw a motorcycle helmet and made assumptions.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fair enough. I’m fairly good at managing my meager income, so I’m sure you’re not the only person to make such an assumption.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard rags has a gold-plated double-breasted motorcycle jacket.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That, plus the fact that you own this entire website yourself.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can only dream of the day when my assets out-value my debts.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just ignore your debt and it will go away.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ragnarok is Brazil in the 1980s / GM?

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alternately, Citi

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ragnarok is getting bailed out by the federal government?

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am? Sweet!!

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ragnarok is the Fed?

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I donated $35 to CoE lol. I pleged some $100+ though to be payable next year.

Once I save up more I want to donate to the CS department (fuck EE).

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You did it for the license plate frame, right?

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 27, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously. And now I don’t know where it is (well it’s somewhere at my parents’ but neither I nor my parents can find it).

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Excellent. I was on the Engineering Senior Gift Committee, so that means our efforts were mildly successful!

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 27, 2009 12:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Which year? Class of 2009? Cause for us I thought the amount raised was a bit sad. Not the fault of the committee but rather because of the students.

BTW if you were Class of 2009, EECS and on the committee I might know you…

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

2009, yes, but although I wasn’t EECS, I know whom you’re thinking of. Also, we met! CGB Tailgate for USC, for about five minutes, ass.

You’d be surprised at how difficult it is to get students to donate back while they’re still in school. For the most part, it makes sense, but it was always interesting having to convince the people who already had jobs lined up (but hadn’t seen a paycheck yet, obviously) that the amount for the license plate frame wasn’t that much relative to how much they’d be making.

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 27, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m sorry it usually takes me at least 1/2 to process people’s faces and names :(

And yea I can see why. But I was more thinking of the fact that many people I talked to seemed to think that they owed nothing to CoE and that donating was a waste. “Why should I give them my money, I already paid for tuition”.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was reason #1 over the course of the year.

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 27, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How can you not remember YWC? He was the Indian guy!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s why I did it!

Now I just need to purchase a car that I’m not ashamed to mount my CoE frame on.

Surprisingly, it’s very difficult to find a Cal-themed license plate frame for motorcycles.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I always meant to ask..

What EECS option were you (I was option 4 – CS) or alternatively did you take more CS than EE, vice versa or a mix?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:57 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was option 4 as well. I only took EE20, EE40, and EECS150, and I only really liked the last one (though I though 20 was OK, and I was probably in the minority there).

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

20 was ok I guess but a bit too hard for me. Was Babak your prof also?

I took EE20 and EE40. That’s it. Oh and the stupid Physics 7A and 7B. What was 150?

For the sake of completion the CS ones I took were (other than the req 61a and 61c – no 61b and 70): 162 (OS), 169 (SE), 184 (gfx), 186(DB), 170 (algs), 188 (ai) and 194 (a test class – RoR).

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t remember who I had for 20 almost a decade ago, but it wasn’t BakBak.

150 was Components and Design Techniques for Digital Systems — the main project was programming an FPGA to do first route image data from a camera to a monitor, then implement some simple processing effects on that data (color maps, inversions, etc.)

Didn’t take graphics (although I now wish I had), but I did take 164 – compilers. Other than not taking 194, looks like we had a pretty comparable curriculum.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 2:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh yes I remember 150. My friend took it last semester. It sounded fun but it was too much work. I avoided 164 because it was taught by Hilfinger (not sure if you know him) and he has a reputation of killer tests. 184 was awesome. The prof’s (O’Brien) graduate thesis was used in the Star Wars: Force Unleashed game. And he rickrolled the class…

I would’ve liked to take a couple more classes (including that one robotics EE one and the grad school AI one).

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 2:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

150 was a lot of work (5-unit classes tend to be), but I learned a lot, and I made sure it was my only technical class that semester. Yes, I’ve heard of Hilfinger; I took 61B over the summer to avoid him teaching it the following Fall.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 2:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I skipped 61b! (thank you ap cs).

I didn’t want to just to do one tech class so I skipped on 150.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 2:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

EECS classes I took
  • CS 3
  • CS 9F
  • CS 61abc
  • EE 40
  • EE 43
  • EECS 120
  • EE 122
  • EECS 150
  • CS 152
  • CS 160
  • CS 162
  • CS 164
  • CS 170
  • CS 184

Tried EE 105, but ended up dropping it (photolithography stuff kicked my @$$)

by calgbear on Oct 27, 2009 4:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was very specific with my donation, asking that it be done in honor of Penis Vaginersson.

AND LOOK WHAT HAPPENED TO ME!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Forget it, Twist. It’s Cal Band Town.

Cal Football: It could happen!

by CalBandGreat on Oct 27, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

THAT’S IT, MARGE. IT’S CHINATOWN!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

BECAUSE WHEN YOU STICK YOUR HAND IN A PILE OF GOO THAT WAS ONCE YOUR FRIEND’S FACE….THEN YOULL KNOW WHAT TO DO!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You want the truth? YOU WANT THE TRUTH?! YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

Cal Football: It could happen!

by CalBandGreat on Oct 27, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, it’;s a good thing you took 6 posts to determine that nobody was making that argument.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 11:29 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yes, freaking out and hurling accusations at anyone who dares suggest that there are other things in the world that matter besides football speaks is clearly not an indication that you lack perspective on the importance of football.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

FOOTBALL IS LIFE. GET OFF OUR BLOG!!!

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t even see how you figured out that was an appropriate comment to post?? How does that even relate to my joke? I don’t understand.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop freaking out and hurling accusations, Twist.

by CalBear81 on Oct 27, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Accusations that I have no idea what’s going on?

Those hurt most of all.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can you specify whether your diatribes are sarcastic, or not, or a mix of the two? It’s SO EASY to tell.

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 1:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Getting Mogulhof on the line? I suppose the only reason the University continues to talk to her is because it would look bad if she continues her rant while the University has “no comment.”

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 8:50 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was going to do the DBD...

… but I remembered that the last few times I did it Avi basically stopped me even going to the point where he created a new one and made mine a fanpost.

Hmph!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 8:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

sorry…I suppose I cheated a little with the initial post ~7AM and the updated post ~8:30AM.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 8:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not your fault

I was up at 2AM :D

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jenkins on recently departed Warriors:

Today’s blog is devoted to all the things that wouldn’t fit into the NBA columns running today and tomorrow in the Sporting Green, starting with an update on all the key Warriors who have departed in recent years:

Jamal Crawford: Considered a backup to both point guard Mike Bibby (who has a jammed left wrist) and shooting guard Joe Johnson in Atlanta. Looking to reach the playoffs for the first time in his career, Crawford calls Atlanta “the most talented team I’ve ever played on.”

Al Harrington: Big wheel on the Knicks with his 20.1 scoring average, and delighted to be playing near home. His contract expires this year, and it seems about 50-50 as to whether the Knicks will keep him around next year or make him part of a massive salary dump to bring in a free agent or two. He may be expendable in the big picture, but the Knicks have to keep some talent.

Jason Richardson: Cruising along in Phoenix as Steve Nash’s backcourt partner.

Troy Murphy: Coming off a career year as Indiana’s power forward: 14.3 points, 11.8 rebounds, 45 percent shooting on threes.

Mike Dunleavy: Having serious knee problems in Indiana. Took him out of the picture last season and still an issue.

Derek Fisher: Should be interesting to see if Fisher plays ahead of Ron Artest when Kobe is double-teamed and the Lakers need a big shot to go down.

Mickael Pietrus: Starting at small forward for Orlando. Could lose that job if Brandon Bass impresses the team at power forward and Rashard Lewis moves over to the 3.

Matt Barnes: Backing up Pietrus with the Magic.

Marco Belinelli: Toronto’s No. 3 shooting guard behind DeMar DeRozan and Antoine Wright.

Ike Diogu: Not a big factor with New Orleans, having signed a minimum-salary contract, but still on the roster.
Bill Simmons, espn.com: “Chris Cohan is Donald Sterling minus the half-open shirts, the cougar entourage and the slumlord leases. Sell the Warriors, Cohan. Just sell. Blessed with some of the best fans in the league, you betrayed them in every conceivable way. Your front office stinks, your coach doesn’t care and your players can’t even make it through a pre-season game without rolling over. Go away. Sell. You are ruining one of the only professional basketball cities that matters. Go away. Go away. Go away.”

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 9:00 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Warriors fans need to boycott the team

That’s the only way Cohan leaves—if the team starts showing a negative profit margin.

Unfortunately, those Dubs fans are insane; they’d sell out those games if they were 21-61. Cohan profits, Warriors fans toil in misery, and they keep on tangoing with this awfulness until they get smarter about this.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 9:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did the W’s maintain good attendance numbers during all of those bad years in the 1990s and 2000s?

During the first Nelson era, when the teams were exciting and the arena was smaller, the W’s were a sellout every night. Everything went south really fast after the Chris Webber/Don Nelson debacle in the early 1990s.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 27, 2009 9:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LINK

Year Total Avg
2008-09 776,660 18,942
2007-08 804,864 19,630
2006-07 742,267 18,104
2005-06 730,928 18,273
2004-05 670,368 16,350
2003-04 665,648 16,235
2002-03 634,935 15,486
2001-02 593,182 14,468
2000-01 591,981 14,439
1999-00 509,172 12,419
1998-99 335,837 13,433
1997-98 500,260 12,201
1996-97 621,844 15,167
1995-96 616,025 15,025
1994-95 616,025 15,025
1993-94 616,025 15,025

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Interesting

The combination of bad teams and the lockout appeared to really hit the attendance numbers between 1998 and 2000. When the W’s started to improve, numbers got better.

If memory serves, 1996-97 was the season they played in San Jose.

I’m curious how the attendance will be this year. The last 2 years have been disappointing but this year’s team has the potential to be fun to watch.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 27, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah they’re probably going to sell out. Lot of the yuppies are attending the games now with all those family packages they throw out there now.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 9:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t know if this is still the case, but a few years ago they had the cheapest tickets in the NBA.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 9:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This sentence makes no sense:

Derek Fisher: Should be interesting to see if Fisher plays ahead of Ron Artest when Kobe is double-teamed and the Lakers need a big shot to go down.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 9:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ron Artest is going to play point guard??? That’d be AWESOME.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 9:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ref who didn't flag Taylor Mays head hit on Quizz suspended
The Pacific-10 has suspended a game official for missing a facemask call in Saturday’s game between Southern California and Oregon State.

The play came on a hit that knocked an Oregon State player’s helmet off.

Commissioner Larry Scott said in a statement that the suspension was handed down because the hit was “blatant and dangerous.”

The conference did not name the official or any players involved, but Trojans safety Taylor Mays hit Beavers receiver James Rodgers, removing his helmet after he caught a fourth-quarter touchdown pass.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/10/26/sports/s175554D69.DTL&tsp=1#ixzz0V9ZcCBNw

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 9:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Fixed link

LINK

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OLD

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Finally, some accountability here.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

In other words, the last Pac 10 ref to make a public fuck-up is the one who pays the price. It should have been a penalty, why not suspend any of the other officials for doing nothing and then having an Oxford Debate Society discussion on the kickoff to invent a make-up call?

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno, but I was really pissed off when Florida fumbled the ball prior to the goalline and the SEC ref refused to return it.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How relieved must the Pac 10 be that the SEC decided to try and get out in front this season for refereeing ineptitude?

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They’ve done perhaps the worst job I have seen all year.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ve noticed that pretty much every conference seems to think their refs are the worst. The national consensus is just picking the refs who screw up in the most highly publicized fashion.

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by norcalnick on Oct 27, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I heard this Doug Gottlieb quote tonight on his radio show: “SEC officials have been so bad this year that the Pac-10 officials are laughing at them.”

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 27, 2009 7:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

…but not Mays himself?

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 1:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think they just deducted a fine from his paycheck.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear his “banging song girls” privilegs were suspended for four hours too.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He had to go right to the back of the line.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sullivan Most Likely Start for ASU on Sat.

http://espn.go.com/blog/pac10/post/_/id/4527/asu-qb-sullivan-likely-to-start-vs-cal

Neither Arizona State quarterback Danny Sullivan’s knee sprain nor his middling performance against Stanford will keep him from starting Saturday against California.
Sullivan, who ranks eighth in the Pac-10 in pass efficiency, was 12-of-23 for 143 yards with two touchdowns and no interceptions in the 33-14 defeat at Stanford.

Osweiler replaced Sullivan when he got hurt and completed 1 of 7 passes for 18 yards.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 9:20 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I haven't seen much of Sullivan this year

And from the little I saw, he looked kind of meh. Who are the offensive weapons on the ASU? McGaha? Nance? Who else do we need to worry about?

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 27, 2009 9:26 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sorority girls.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

In Halloween costumes. yikes.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yikes? You mean in the Sexing Up Halloween way?

I should have posted this story during your discussion of mrs. carp’s Halloween costume possibilities yesterday.

The only vampire attribute of Kelsey Corcoran’s Halloween costume is the fangs.

Otherwise, Corcoran’s outfit — consisting of only a corset and high heels — will resemble her costumes of previous years: Harry Potter’s Hermione (scantily clad) and a Barbie doll (dressed in a bathing suit).

If she didn’t dress sexy for Halloween, Corcoran said, she’d definitely stand out at parties or bars in the Ohio State University area.

“It wouldn’t be unique in a good way,” said Corcoran, 20, an OSU junior from Worthington. “No one even thinks about wearing actual scary Halloween costumes anymore — it’s about how much skin can I show and who can I impress.”
In the OSU campus area on Halloween, “95 percent and above” of girls wear skimpy costumes, estimated Corcoran’s friend Jenna Schuld. Her previous costumes include a short-skirted Strawberry Shortcake doll and a “slutty bumblebee.”

“Girls like to get attention from guys, and guys will gladly give it to them,” said Schuld, a junior from the Cleveland suburb of Westlake.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flagged for making me imagine girls from Ohio in scantily clad clothing.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw many a lady in the slut uniform aisle at the costume shop. None of them were easy on the eyes.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 9:49 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Should the costumes need a “You must be this hot to purchase this item” label?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 9:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

no…but I was expecting (hoping?) the ratio would be a little better.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There’s a seasonal retail job that has no middle ground between excellence and horror.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, but they should train the clerks to mock customers who would not look attractive in slutty costumes. Sure that would decrease revenue, but would result in a net surplus due to negative externalities.

Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!

by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure that would decrease revenue, but would result in a net surplus due to negative externalities.

Uh….what?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Economist speak.

by CalBear81 on Oct 27, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Externality

In this case, the negative externality would be the poor souls who have to see non-attractive women/men in slutty costumes.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How would you assign monetary benefit to the reduction in externalities though? Otherwise the net surplus is diffuse and can’t be in any way transferred to the companies with net revenue losses.

(This is exciting, maybe I can dress up as an economist for Halloween.)

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Less healthcare taxes treating people who have gouged their eyeballs out.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m convinced.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:42 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Solid. Time to send out informative guides on how to insult clients.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I think I’ve got that one covered.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PS, how does one dress up as an economist?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Popped Lacoste collars and Axe body spray

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A suit would be a good start I’d think. Although most of the economists I know are in think tank or analyst groups and are isolated from customers, so they don’t have to be dressed up.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The analysts at the firm at which I work all wear suits. It may be company policy or it may be because it makes them feel smarter.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it’s just because suits are awesome?

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, that’s the reason I wear a suit.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, I kinda hate suits. Single breasted ones, at elast.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know that I always feel smarter when I am wearing a suit.

Actually, I was talking about this at lunch with some of the developers on my team. My proposition was that we don’t wear suits because we provide a usable product – an HR application – and it works or it doesn’t.

By contrast, when I was a consultant, we delivered stacks of paper that allowed customers to say the crisis had been resolved and therefore put the paper deliverables on the shelf until the next crisis arose. Correspondingly we had to look like they had hired someone clever, and suits were the way we showed that. Pathetic, really.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I am significantly younger than the team/group I work with. I find it enhnaces my credibility.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 1:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It works. I had the same problem consulting; when you’re doing federal work the client contact points tend to be a bit older because the GS system for promotions guarantees a bit more… life experience relative to responsibility levels.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m pretty sure if I wore khakis and a polo shirt to the office, none of my analysis would be paid attention to

Which may be a bad thing or a good thing.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s totally a good thing. It’s all about setting the bar low!

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not sure it can get much lower.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 1:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was on a panel at a conference last week. I realized that nobody would be interested in what I had to say anyway, so I just showed up in jeans. Moral of the story: setting the bar low makes everything easier!

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

setting the bar low makes everything easier!

So many inappropriate jokes…

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The outfits manage to sexualize even children’s fictional characters: an Alice in Wonderland in a corset, a Wednesday Addams with a lot of cleavage and a SpongeBob SquarePants in a miniskirt.

Wow. I don’t even know how that would work.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

SpongeBob TransVestite SquareSkirt?

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I couldn’t imagine it either, so here’s the link in case AndBears is interested (hi AndBears!).

It’s just so disappointing. They’ve completely avoided the square cheek issue.

by kolwave on Oct 27, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, that is lame. I was hoping for something like those dancers in the Burger King ad.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Means Girls said it best:

Halloween is the one night a year when girls can dress like a total slut and no other girls can say anything about it.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 9:58 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flagged for watching Mean Girls.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

McGaha is pretty talented if you can get the ball in his general vicinity. Which Sullivan was struggling to do. I’m really not worried about ASU’s running game — no one less talented than Joe McKnight has really burned the Bears this year.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 9:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except for the 74-yard TD by Jonathan Franklin, which still pisses me off.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 27, 2009 9:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh, that was terrible. Absolutely terrible. Hopefully, also really flukey.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was pretty flukey in my view

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d say fairly flueky.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Moderately flukey. 6/10 on the fluke scale.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 1:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Hasaik blatantly held

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 9:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Osweiler certainly did nothing to impress in his brief cameo on Saturday...

He looked like someone who was frankly unready to play in the Pac-10.

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
In memory of Nick Adenhart and all victims of drunk driving

by PaulThomas on Oct 27, 2009 9:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Will this be the week that Cal doesn’t allow a ton of yardage through the air?

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the jinx man.

Email: bearsnecessities@gmail.com

by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s like, just you’re opinion man. Plus, I didn’t know asking a question was a jinx.

Will an asteroid hit earth tomorrow? Run for the mines!

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm confused.

that chart about revenue and expenses shows profits of $5 and $6 M this year and next. but is listed as deficits?

what’s correct?

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 9:32 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

That graph is whacked out

For instance, it shows a $7.9M deficit for 2005, and the vertical bar lengths look about right for that, but the headers on the bars both show $45.3M. Not to mention none of the bar heights make any sense.

I think it’s safe to characterize that graph as “completely useless.”

Linda's in the cold ground, won't see her anymore
Somewhere out on the highway tonight, the drunken engines roar
It's just one of those things, one of those things
-- Al Stewart, "Accident on 3rd St."
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by PaulThomas on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It looks like the numbers at the top of the bars are reversed.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 9:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually…they’re reversed for 2009 and 2010, and 2005/2006 have the income numbers copied in place of the revenue numbers.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Okanes profiles Sweeney

LINK

The inexperience of Cal’s redshirt freshman quickly put him behind incumbent Kevin Riley and sophomore Brock Mansion in training camp. But Sweeney has made substantial strides since the season began, and he overtook Mansion as the team’s No. 2 quarterback after the third game.

“He’s been real consistent, mentally and physically through practice and game preparation,” Cal coach Jeff Tedford said. “There’s not a huge separation there. It’s just he’s been a little more consistent throwing the football.”

Mansion figured to have an edge for the backup job, because he was the team’s third-stringer last year and worked with the offense the entire season. Sweeney was the scout team quarterback last year, so he spent much of the season getting more familiar with the opponents’ playbook than his own.

Mansion struggled for most of spring practice before putting together an impressive final few days. But Sweeney since has opened the eyes of the coaching staff to entrust him with the backup job.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 9:40 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy fuck it's cold

It was 40deg when I left for work (9am). Man I’m worried about what to do when it snows. For one I have no clothing that’s appropriate for snow, and secondly I have no chains on my car and I’ve never driven in snow before

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 9:55 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

This is my first twit-esque post in over a week! It takes time!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t you make money at this job of yours?

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes but what’s that got to do with the cold?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For one I have no clothing that’s appropriate for snow

Solution: Buy clothing that’s appropriate for snow…

I have no chains on my car and I’ve never driven in snow before

Solution: Buy chains!

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Problem 1: I’m lazy
Problem 2: It’s the not knowing how to drive in snow part. Or even how to put on the chains lol

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

TOO LAZY TO SHOP FOR CLOTHES?!?!?!?!?!?

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Twist’s world has turned around!

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it can’t be that simple!

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Make sure the chains fit your tires! I also prefer Z Cables if they are available.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it weren’t royrules, I’d make fun of you for stating the obvious.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re really emotionally hurting me you know that?

:p

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sign up for fantasy hoops already man.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 10:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I keep forgetting.

Will do tonight

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do Now.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

MS Drones do not have emotions.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is the last straw

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:48 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s probably not the worst money you’ll spend in your life to winterize your wardrobe and car. As for driving in the snow, if you’ve never done it before, drive 10 mph slower than you think you need until you get more experience.

by sec119 on Oct 27, 2009 9:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea I eventually will need the stuff anyway. Got to do the shopping before everyone else does though..

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:00 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

next time you’re in Berkeley hit up the North Face Outlet.

Also, Seattle is the home of REI. The downtown store is pretty sweet.

by turkey on Oct 27, 2009 10:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Noted. Thanks!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you need to get a bunch of stuff at once, take a look at the Northern Mountain Supply store online, they have a random selection of stuff that may or may not be in season. Same for Patagonia.com web specials.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it’s rather chilly (and windy!) in the Yay after last weekends fry-fest.

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--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 10:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I miss the Bay Area weather tbh. Even the heat here is worse than California

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:02 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t think Seattle receives much snow annually, so you should be okay. Nonetheless, if you want to travel outside of the Sea-Tac area its probably not a bad idea to have a set of chains in your car, AND to have practiced putting them on before.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 10:03 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

People tell me last year was pretty bad and this year is looking the same if not worse

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also what’s the best place to buy chains?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:05 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Any automotive place should have them. They are also more expensive than I thought they would be, depending on the tire size and type anywhere from $50 – $125.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 10:07 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if Costco will have it. I know they have an automotive center..

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You might want to make sure that there aren’t any oddball rules about not using chains in town because of the damage to partially plowed roads.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walk to work in the snow.

STAY THIRSTY, MY FRIENDS

by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Walk SLED to work in the snow!

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 10:11 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck no.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was because there was more snow than the equipment was set up for (depth wise) and a snow removal plan that made DC (my gold standard for snow-day ineptitude) look like they were Minneapolis.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When I lived in Tennessee we received a dusting of a 1/4 inch of snow, which somehow didn’t melt nor evaporate. It resulted in a snow day!

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 2:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but that’s the actual south. It’s better than it used to be, but we used to get taunted by our friends in Maryland because it took ages on our “plowed” roads to get across the line and join them in easy transit. Our old neighbors who had been living in DC for the Great Blizzard of 96 waited for 5 days without any sign of a plow before they pooled their money and called in a contractor to clear the block.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you turned on your heater yet?

You might be saving money, but you will be happier when you go out into the cold if you turn on your heater—I promise.

by paleodan on Oct 27, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just did

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wondering if anyone else follows English Premier League...?

I just started actually following it (scores, table only really) this season and hardly know anything about teams besides the one I’ve picked as my own: Everton. Anybody a diehard?

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:13 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m not a diehard, but on Sunday I decided the Tottenham Hotspurs would be ‘my team’ because they have cheap tickets and I might be able to go to a game. Of course, this doesn’t make sense, since I can see their biggest rivals home stadium from my window.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 10:17 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

When did you start living over there?

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Last month.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why’d you choose Tottenham over Arsenal?

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Primarily because the tickets were cheaper, but also because:

1) Arsenal is a big 4 team, that wins by outspending everyone. =(
2) To my knowledge, the Hotspurs are the English football equivalent of the Phoenix Suns, all offense – no defense, which makes for more entertaining games =)
3) I know a dude who is friends with a dude that is a Hotspur fan, and its more fun to all cheer for the same team. =)

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 10:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cool by me.

I just started rooting for Everton because Tim Howard was on the team, and they had a promising season last year, it seems.

I also like watching Hull, Aston Villa, Fulham… any team that plays an American player a lot

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:29 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I also absolutely love the promotion/relegation system and tiered leagues. I wish we could set that up somehow in some of our other pro sports.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I totally agree…having said that, their lack of a salary cap is ridiculous.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Truly

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There are shells of a salary cap within some of the lower leagues but it has to do with spending a percentage of the teams total income on wages rather than a league wide levelling salary system.

There are a lot of struggling teams over there. Southampton almost went bust and Portsmouth is on the brink. Halifax folded last year, Chester is on the brink, Accrington Stanley, Wrexham, Brentford, etc all struggling.

The problem with a salary cap in the Premiershit is that it would negatively affect English club performance ont he European stage, which in turn would cost teams hundreds of millions of dollars in lost revenue per year. Because England has the top TV contracts (about $1 billion/year), they pay crazy money to the teams so you’ll see teams going all out for promotion which, if they fail, could mean a dizzying spiral into the depths of the football pyramid.

In addition, European participation is worth a mint as well with the top teams making an adidtional $50 million or so if they get all the way to the final.

So you’ll never see a salary cap in any of the American formats over there.

Goin' balls deep with Cal since 1972!

by Fire Starkey on Oct 27, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tottenham used to be the place for American goalies. Casey Keller baby!

Although, if you really want to root for Americans in England, there’s really no choice but Fullham.

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by norcalnick on Oct 27, 2009 6:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Full-merica!

Although right now it’s down to Dempsey . . . and “Will Eddie Johnson ever play again?”

It used to be that Man City was the only team that was willing to play an American field player (Claudio!) but then right before the 2002 world cup there was a handful of Americans in the EPL.

Now we’ve got Jozy and Dempsey playing with regularity.

by LeonPowe on Oct 27, 2009 6:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has Jozy started to play more? I had been hearing complaints that Hull wasn’t giving him enough starts considering his talent.

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by norcalnick on Oct 27, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He hasn’t been playing a whole lot – just 6 appearances so far, 5 coming as a sub. He is only 19 and has been called up to the USMNT a few times in the beginning of the season, but we (meaning the USMNT) need him to get on the field a lot more at Hull, especially as he’s been productive in his limited role. His very first touch was for an assist.

by LeonPowe on Oct 27, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It always baffles me how so many Americans can be successful in international play (Hell, didn’t Jozy score a goal against Spain?) and not get starting minutes for mediocre European clubs.

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS

by norcalnick on Oct 27, 2009 6:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or even bad ones. And Hull is a bad one. And Xerex where Jozy was loaned out to from Villereal last season is a 2nd division Spanish side.

You and every other American fan.

by LeonPowe on Oct 27, 2009 6:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1 Fulham

I also am an ABU fan.

by YleeXOtee on Oct 28, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Tottenham the one with the Jew as a mascot?

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not sure if they have a mascot, but their logo is a cock.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 11:34 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it circumcized?

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 11:37 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It clucks a lot.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:38 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They might want to get that looked at, then.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not as a mascot, but they supposedly had a lot of Jewish supporters and it’s become an angle of abuse from West Ham fans.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not as bad as the shit that goes down with Ajax, from what I’ve heard.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feyenoord fans can die in a fucking fire – any fans who can hiss like gas chambers in a city flattened by the Nazis should shot when they get out the train at Ajax’s stadium. Nothing like a little collective punishment to remind people that fascism wasn’t some big fucking joke.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you serious? They actually hiss like gas chambers at the opposing fans (who you say are Jews)? Wow that’s one fucked up group.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ajax is an Amsterdam football team that is associated with the Jewish community (not because they have a lot of Jewish fans, but because the club was originally in the Jewish part of town, IIRC). Because of this, the fans started bringing Israeli flags to games, using “Juden” as a chant, etc. Unfortunately, their rivals responded by bringing Hamas flags, using Nazi salutes at games, etc. Really fucked up shit.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I knew that European soccer (football) fans were sometimes vile and a bit fucked in the head (not all obviously) but this is just… wow.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:30 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

European soccer fans are way way way way way way way way way worse than any American sports fans I can think of. Yes, that includes Bama.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Worst in the world?

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can’t decide if that’s comforting or horrifying.

by CalBear81 on Oct 27, 2009 12:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOLY SHIT

 A mob of English racists, neo-Nazis, right-wingers, football hooligans and racist thugs are planning a huge anti-Muslim march in Glasgow, near Scotland’s biggest mosque, the Sunday Mail reported on October 25.

“A lot of the different firms down here seem to have buried the hatchet and are sickened by the rising tide of Islam,” said Stephen Gash, an English businessman and a member of the Stop Islamisation of Europe (SIOE) group.

"Whether or not that is the case in Scotland, we will have to see."

A group calling themselves the Scottish Defence League made and then withdrew an official application to stage a march on November 14 in Glasgow.

“There will not be an appropriately organized or licensed public procession,” a Glasgow City Council spokesman told the Mail.

Yet behind the scenes, preparations are underway for a huge demonstration on that date, undercover Sunday Mail investigators have discovered.

Expected to show up for the anti-Muslim rally are English racists, neo-Nazis, far-right trouble makers, football hooligans and right-wingers, including senior activists of the British National Party (BNP).

They include Essex security boss Leisha Brookes, BNP activist Chris Renton, Aston Villa fan Richard Price and Jeff Marsh, a 44-year-old convicted football hooligan.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

They've picked the wrong venue for this

As some wag pointed out after the attempted car-bombing of Glasgow airport, it’s completely futile trying to bring Islamic extremism or its foes to Scotland.

Why? Because they’re not finished fighting over the Reformation yet.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, that’ll work.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d put money on the locals attacking both sides.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

go bears.

it’ll be like the spring protests against aparthied when i was a student….

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 3:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, an ordinary sword.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Oct 27, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re excluding Philadelphia? I don’t think they’ve seceded yet.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carp should provide European soccer fan of the week instead!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tottenham and their fans are colloquially known as the ‘Yids’

The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS

by norcalnick on Oct 27, 2009 6:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course, this doesn’t make sense, since I can see their biggest rivals home stadium from my window.

Screw those wankers

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by norcalnick on Oct 27, 2009 5:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I follow it a little. The dominance of the big 4 really turns me off, but it’s great football.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you root for a certain team…?

I definitely like the teams with prominent American players and find myself rooting for that side of things

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I picked Spurs somewhat arbitrarily.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is your year, then. Aston Villa, Tottenham, and Manchester City all look like they have the potential to break through. Arsenal and especially Liverpool look vulnerable.

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by norcalnick on Oct 27, 2009 6:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I check the standing pretty regularly, but they all seem pretty closely clustered together on paper. Haven’t gotten a chance to watch any matches.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 6:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The dominance of Man U offends me the most.
Plus they are red – and you know – better dead than red.
So go Chelsea!

by YleeXOtee on Oct 28, 2009 12:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don’t know if I’d qualify myself as a diehard fan but I decided to throw in my lot with Everton this season, just in time for them to go on an epic losing skid in the last couple of weeks.

I support them for several reasons – I like David Moyes, he keeps up the grand tradition of grumpy Scottish managers, and he builds teams on a shoe-string. They also play the right way, instead of the negative 6-in-front-of-the-box-long-ball-forward crap that most English managers (with some exceptions like Steve Bruce) use. And finally, fuck Liverpool, that’s why.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m afraid I know nothing of the stratagems of soccer attacks =(

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, it’s not that complicated. It all boils down to variations of get the ball foward, pass it to where the opposition isn’t, put ball in net. It’s just that a lot of English managers focusing on preventing that rather than doing it better than the opposition.

Which is rational when you’re playing Manchester United etc., but craven the rest of the time.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’ll probably start hearing about the ‘long ball’ game (Boring!) vs. the possession, passing attack (jaga bonita!)

Basically, watch how Brazil plays when they’re on (Or Tottenham from the Berbatov/Keane/Defoe days, or Barcelona last year) and you’ll see the style lionized by offensive soccer purists.

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by norcalnick on Oct 27, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Notwithstanding the bizarro loss to Rubin Kazan, Barcelona’s at it again. I watched their 6 – 1 demolition of Zaragoza over the weekend and it could have been 10 – 1 easily. When it’s working, which is most of the time, they are just unbelievable.

by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Everton, Liverpool’s poor little brother.

I wouldn’t call myself a die hard but I do love me some footy and I know the English game extremely well.

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by Fire Starkey on Oct 27, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck you, Fire Starkey!

I got your Liverpool right here! ::points to genital area::

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 1:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

(to the tune of "You are my sunshine)

You are a Scouser, a dirty scouser
You’re only happy on giro day
Your mother’s dealing
Your father’s stealing
Please don’t take my hubcaps away.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 1:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Giro?

What’s wrong with pita pockets stuffed with sliced meat and smothered in tzatziki sauce?

by sec119 on Oct 27, 2009 1:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s disappointing. Gyro day is an enjoyable one, imho.

by sec119 on Oct 27, 2009 1:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why limit it to just the one day?

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’d always read

You are a Scouser, an ugly scouser
You’re only happy on giro day
Your mum out thieving,
Your dad’s drug dealing,
Please don’t take my hubcaps away.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The subtle differences speak volumes.

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 27, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do like the alliteration and use of “mum”

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 1:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

These are the subtle variations you find in songs that exist only in oral tradition, I suspect.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not a Liverpool supporter, just a comment on Everton’s place in the heirarchy.

I am a proud supporter of OXFORD UNITED, currently runaway leaders in the Conference, England’s 5th division. And yes, how I became a fan of theirs is a long story.

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by Fire Starkey on Oct 27, 2009 1:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elaborate please.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 1:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cliff Notes version:
In the early 90’s I had no team in England- hated Man Ewe, Chelsea, slight fondness for Leicester, the Arse
Got married in ’96 and spent my honeymoon in England
A friend of mine put us up in his flat in Oxford (he was getting his PhD there)
He told me to start following them- they had just gotten 2 successive promotions to the old 1st division (2nd level, just below Premiershit)
Started checking their results online and in Soccer America magazine
Got hooked- same colors as Cal coincidentally.

The online crew I hooked up with is/was pretty awesome. Bemused by my adoration of their club they welcomed me with open arms. When we visited again in ‘01/02 I planned our destinations around Oxford matches, Boxing Day in Oxford, game at Rushden & Diamnonds (outside Northampton), FA Cup match at Arsenal (Highbury before it got torn down). The morning of Boxing Day I got a call in my hotel and these guys I had never met insisted I come down and start drinking with them. Turned out they had told the owner my story and he put aside a luxury box for me and that crew for the game (Stomped Bournemouth 3-0 BTW). So I’m a lifer at this point. Love my Yellows despite their plummet down the Leagues since I started supporting them…

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by Fire Starkey on Oct 27, 2009 2:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What’s the reason behind the plummet? Future looking bright at all?

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 3:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hear their striker was hurt and replaced by the backup striker in a home game. They lost the game, but he played well, only to lose them on a last-second decision. Then the regular striker started again and continued to show signs of his weakness in the last couple minutes of the game.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 3:16 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

GET LOST!

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 3:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think I saw that in a movie once. I think it was called “The Ball That Wasn’t Thrown Away”.

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 27, 2009 3:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Clearly, it was snubbed by the Heismans Oscars.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Plainly you’ve been huffing Axe again.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 3:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It makes me want myself almost as much as women want me.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 3:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I see that they’re killing the Conference

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 3:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, its been butchery this season and last half of last season. Since this manager took over on the New Year, he is 29 wins, 5 losses 9 ties…i.e. pretty fucking good

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by Fire Starkey on Oct 27, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oxford is very Cal-ian in that the fan base is extremely pessimistic in general. The team was actually in the pre-Premiership in the mid ’80’s and won the League Cup in ‘86. They were owned by Robert Maxwell (before he fell off his yacht and drowned) and dodgy sales of star players like John Aldridge and Dean Saunders ensured their demotion. Crap owners, dodgy managers and a disasterous stadium deal ensured a lot of financial instability. This ensured the selling off of their star players in the mid ’90’s (Matt Elliott, Phil Whitehead, Darren Purse, Phil Gilchrist, etc) and the club got demoted again. A new owner bought the club out of receivership, built the stadium and proceeded to hire a series of craptastic managers. While financially sound, the team plunged down the leagues until finally settling in the 5th division (Conference). Another new owner and finally a great manger (Chris Wilder) and the team is starting to dominate as it should considfering its fan base (which is about 2 or 3x of most of the other teams in the League). I fully expect them to be promoted this year and their playing staff is extremely well positioned for another promotion run next year if all goes well (this is fairly common in the lower leagues- teams getting successive promotions).

Soooo COME ONNNNNNN YOUUUUUU YELLLOWWWSSSSSSSSSSSSS

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by Fire Starkey on Oct 27, 2009 8:48 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’ve won me over.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 9:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s a fantastic story.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 3:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HOooooooray! I’m all in favor of people who are willing to support lower-division teams. Of course, saying that can come back to haunt you – in my case, it was in the form of having to organize / pay for a trip to see Partick Thistle play St Johnston in lieu of going to a titty bar for my brother’s bachelor “party.”

That was a bit grim.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 1:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was looking through the names of lower-division teams. I like Nottingham Forest

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 1:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rushden & Diamonds always amused me. And yes! I have seen a match at their tiny ass fucking stadium! Imagine a stadium with 4 sides but only about 10 rows of seats all the way around. Very strange.

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by Fire Starkey on Oct 27, 2009 2:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s hoping I’ve sufficiently "Z"ed past all the soccer talk!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s people like you who keep this country from being great.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 4:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah! Soccer has everything! Fast-kicking, low scoring, and ties? You bet! Plus all your favorite soccer stars play. Like Ariaga! Ariaga II! Bariaga! Aruglia! And Pizzoza!

Cal Football: It could happen!

by CalBandGreat on Oct 27, 2009 4:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh shit, Ariaga II plays??

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Although true, that doesn’t seem to relate to my previous comment.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I feel the same way about basketball. Hooray for consumer choice!

by DC Trojan on Oct 28, 2009 11:23 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hm... this chart makes no sense

I think it’s a draft copy that was accidentally inserted as final.

According to the graphic, there should be no deficit in years 2005 (45.3-45.3), 2006 (48.4-48.4).

The projected figures make no sense either. 2009 should show a profit of 5.8 (64.9-59.1) and 2010 should show a profit of 6.4 (64.6-58.2).

The only way this chart would make sense if we assume that Todd Trumbull is lazy and the fact-check dept at the Chron was furloughed last Thursday.

by danzig on Oct 27, 2009 10:48 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

To be fair, I think their Excel monkey probably forgot to update his formulas before he submitted the image. Poor guy. :(

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could it be that in those years they ran deficits that were then covered by the Chancellor? If so, it is misleading (they ultimately broke even) more than wrong.

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 27, 2009 12:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This article makes no sense!

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

it seems the 2009 and 2010 figures should be switched (ie 59.1 should be above the light blue and 64.9 above dark; 58.2 on light, 64.6 on dark)

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Or maybe they’re supposed to be surpluses?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then this whole article sucks.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I really think it’s high time to send some e-mail blasting them for their laziness.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

PS

Did you see Jamie Dimon speak?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

what did he say (i just recently dumped my stock in JPM)?

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 10:52 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He pretty much dismissed the notion of “too big to fail”. It was interesting.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just have his baby already. jk. What’d he say… anything bullish? I bet he’ll talk his own book and try to get his clients to take profits. That’s what everyone else is doing.

by danzig on Oct 27, 2009 10:55 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is nothing wrong with my giant mancrush on Jamie Dimon! :(

He gave some standard stuff, but he did a lot to dismiss the whole “business is evil” notion. And being a capitalist, I really appreciated him echoing the sentiment that his primary responsibility is to the shareholders.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what website is even funnier than Kade's ?

The famous “harlot” post:
http://www.landoverbaptist.net/showthread.php?t=29972

Everyone here is in love with this website. It’s the new Kade. Sometimes Kade can get more annoying than funny, but these guys are always worth some big laughs. It’s very disturbing and sad at first, but when you realize how mean spirited these guys are, then it becomes funny.

Read the tiny details and all the signatures etc… it’s the tiny things that make me crack up.

It’s crazy too b/c tons of people come onto the site just to make fun of them… and hilarity ensues. If you read some of the older posts and check the statuses of the people who post… more than half are banned… the censorship level is almost nazi-like, but still a ton of great content gets through.

I know it’s wrong to bag on these people for their beliefs so I never post, but it’s just too funny to ignore.

by danzig on Oct 27, 2009 11:10 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

btw: don’t take offense b/c these people claim to be conservatives…. that’s not why I’m showing you this. I forgot for a second who you were. I really mean no offense, these guys are just funny.

by danzig on Oct 27, 2009 11:12 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs


Putting the “stud” back in Bible Study

LOL

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know… the signatures are the best. The links etc also contain tons on crazy shit.

by danzig on Oct 27, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whereas you think it’s wrong to bag on them, I think it’s oh so right!!!

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t have the link but there was a great flame war a while back about the comment section breaking. When someone gave a software-based explanation for the bug, these guys started to deny that there was even a bug at all based on the fact that “Jesus doesn’t have glitches!” It was classic. Of course a huge flame war ensued.

by danzig on Oct 27, 2009 11:18 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

HAHAHAHAHAHA

“This site best viewed when holding an open King James Bible”.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cucumbers are cold and slimy like snakes. I don’t trust them.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:30 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s a very valid point Mrs Roberts.
I remember one time when my dear departed husband was alive.
There was a loud scream from the Bathroom.
My poor husband had somehow slipped on some soap in the shower, and fell backwards on to one of these Demonic Cucumbers (which just happened to be pointing upright).
It took a team of Surgeons quite some time to remove it.
We never had Cucumber sandwiches again, after that day.
I think he re-lived it several times.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ewwwww!

I guess I won’t be serving cucumber finger sandwiches at the Ladies of Landover tea bagging parties any more.

Why are homers so sick and disgusting? They ruin everything.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:33 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is the best thread i’ve ever read

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

However, it is a coincidence because this was exactly the subject of my Doctoral dissertation! I proved that it would have been impossible to get enough food on the ark to feed any of the animals, and there wasn’t enough manpower….or shovels for that matter…to clean up after them. So the only possibility is that GOD filled their bellies with manna from Heaven which, as we all know, is evacuated as rainbows.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:53 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m seriously having trouble telling which posters are serious, and which posters are mocking them. It’s all that ridiculous.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beauty.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 12:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

So it’s all tongue-in-cheek? Good, good…

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh.

That makes it slightly less funny. It’s like finding out that Arthur Kade isn’t real.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:35 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHOA!!!!!!!!!!

For the first few days I kept telling people it was a fake… but everyone kept telling me it was for real. Later, I was convinced it was real. Now I’m just pissed that I lost something so precious to me.

Gee, thanks a lot TBread… thanks a ton… wow….you’re the best…

by danzig on Oct 27, 2009 12:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know what will cheer you up!

http://arthurkade.com/?p=4590

Kade discussing his Halloween costume:


Jesus Christ: This one would be interesting because of the obvious coincidences between "The Journey" and his life that I have pointed out in past blogs, and I could really spice him up to be really funky for a 21st century Jesus. I can’t grow facial hair well, because I grow a beard with holes in it, but with my acting abilities I could memorize scripture lines and recite them to Audrina at our table if I end up at Dusk

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

hahahhahahha…. him discussing dressing up as himself?? WIN!

by danzig on Oct 27, 2009 1:04 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

son?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

I took a nice profit on JPM… from the 25 shares i owned =D =D =D

i’m a market mover

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:01 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

25 shares? Woah, slow down there, bigshot.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

dude, that’s shit compared to my 13 in FCX

BALLIN!

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:08 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I recently played the forex market by swapping 5 dollars for Pounds! SCORE

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

You’re making fun of me. That hurts.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:16 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Point where it hurts.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:19 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

::points at bank acount::

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

account*

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t seem to see it. Let me get my monocle.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It’s a nubbins… I can’t help it, man!

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:21 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jimmy Clausen, great QB?

TFA discusses it (with video!)

[W]hat caught my attention in the recent Notre Dame game was how easily the Irish appeared to move the ball in the second half through the air. When this happens fans and the media usually jump on the staff for making poor adjustments…Or they vaguely complain about "zone schemes" or "prevent defenses". Sometimes the criticism is right and sometimes it is just arm chair quarterbacking mixed in with the benefit of hindsight and second guessing.

    . . . Only once on these 13 big pass plays did USC run anything resembling a true prevent defense with 3 DL rushing and 8 men dropping into coverage. Clausen escaped the 3 man pressure on that play, scrambled and found an open man. Conversely, USC did run some type of +1 or +2 blitz on 5 of the 13 plays — all five saw completions by Clausen. Notre Dame had two completions in the game of over 21 yards. One came on a trick fake FG play that caught USC off guard. The other come with cornerback #36 Pinkard in straight man coverage versus WR #23 for the Irish [Golden Tate]. Clausen made some very good throws and reads in the game. I doubt USC will face a QB of his caliber again this season unless something funny happens in the BCS rankings. Jimmy Clausen strikes me as very improved compared to the previous two seasons and clearly had more talent around him this season than the previous contests. My respect for his skill level is considerably up after this most recent game.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 11:14 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Rishi, this is for you

Crabtree highlights.

Smart Football analyzes his performance.

I’m particularly a fan of the route he ran on his second catch, the deep 18 yard out route. He gives the defensive back a slight stem inside, then regains outside leverage before pressing his body into him and then breaking for the ball. Just an impressive route: it’s those little things that get players open — it’s not just running straight upfield and turning around. The slight "weave" he does is what sets up his out cut. It kept the defensive back off balance, and it also will set him up for later plays. Now, the NFL is a tough league, and what succeeds one week might not once there’s more film out there.

For his part though, 49ers head coach Mike Singletary was impressed:

Coach Mike Singletary said Crabtree’s debut was just as impressive on Monday. "I wanted to see it on film, just like when you see a good movie," Singletary said. "You want to see it again."

    Singletary praised Crabtree for the effort he made to stay in shape during his holdout and the crash course he took to learn the 49ers’ playbook after he signed.

I will simply say that, like all rookies, Crabtree will struggle at some point and be frustrated. But also that, despite what went on off the field, he has always shown a real diligence with his play, his preparation, and his commitment. Indeed, at Texas Tech you watched the way he blocked, and you knew he was a good receiver. Here’s to hoping it works out.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 11:23 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

<3

If there’s some good news out of this “Alex Smith, Starting Quarterback” fiasco, it’s the emergence of Crabtree.

Thanks.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It wasn’t that impressive, but production is production — let’s hope it continues

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:28 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was impressive given how long he went without even knowing the playbook.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:32 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That’s what she said!

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 11:35 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

ATTN royrules: This is how you do it

Wait, there’s a playbook? No wonder I… waitaminite

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 11:36 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That deserves a rec

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 11:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This deserves several recs

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:00 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

That deserves a single rec.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 12:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rivals ranks Cal hoops #10

A little too high for my tastes…

In Mike Montgomery’s second season, California will try to do something that hasn’t been done since Pete Newell retired — win a league title. Newell led the Bears to the 1959 national championship and the 1960 title game, but Cal’s goals this season will be a bit more modest — the school’s first conference title since 1960. The Bears return four starters and their top five scorers. Guard Jerome Randle blossomed into the Pac-10’s second-leading scorer, behind Arizona State’s James Harden, last season. Cal sealed its place in last season’s NCAA tournament with an 83-77 victory over Arizona on March 5. The Bears seemed a little too pleased with themselves from that point on and didn’t win for the rest of the season. To win the league, the Bears need to avoid getting hung up on rankings and standings, as they did last season.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:10 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I think the ranking is based more on the ‘1st in the Pac-10’ prediction than them actually being the 10th-best team in the country. We’ll find out in New York in a few weeks, though.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only two things worry me about our BB season.

1) Dennis

2) Erickson

by danzig on Oct 27, 2009 12:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

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by PaulThomas on Oct 27, 2009 12:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s going to leave ASU’s football team and coach their BB team?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I follow.

danzig’s saying the only thing that matters right now is ASU. He’s right.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is what I got from his post as well.

Here’s to you carp, understander of things.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

And translator of Danziglish.

by CalBear81 on Oct 27, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

aka

If sleep-deprived carp gets it, the whole planet’s fu**ked.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 12:28 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh.

Uhh…should I not post any more hoops news the rest of the day?

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

More posts on swing passes.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I actually interpretted it to read that:

In Dennis Erickson’s first year at ASU he overachieved based on a surprise start, soft schedule and fortunate coincidences. In his second year, the flaws of the team he inherited manifested themselves leading to a disappointing finish.

Last year Mike Montgomery overachieved with a surprise start, and fortuitous coincidences (3 pointer). Later in the season while facing better teams, the fatal flaws of the team Montgomery inherited resurfaced leading to disappointing losses. Much like Dennis Erickson’s 2nd season at ASU, Mike Montgomery will be a struggle.

Meaning…. DON’T BELIEVE THE HYPE Cal still lacks interior scoring, interior defense, and relies on 3 pointers.

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could happen.

But the Pac-10 really sucks this year, and we’re so senior-driven.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 3:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps. But the Pac-10 lacks dominant big men in general, and we don’t really rely on 3-pointers as much as some pundits say we do. Our percentage is so high because a) we have 3 very good shooters, and b) we’re create and take good open shots.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 8:29 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dude, I’m pretty sure he’s concerned about Dennis Reynolds from It’s Always Sunny In Philadelphia and Leif Erickson, who may or may not be a real person who existed.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

LINK
intelligence is a person’s capacity to (1) acquire knowledge (i.e. learn and understand), (2) apply knowledge (solve problems), and (3) engage in abstract reasoning.

by danzig on Oct 27, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Come on, you don’t need to confirm that I’m dumb. I know it fully well!

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jerome Randle discusses his game, praises Christopher, talks about Seeley, looks forward to Kansas

Interview with Ryan Fagan of the Sporting News. It’s a really great interview, I suggest reading it all.

SN: Talk to me about Patrick, as a player, but also as a teammate off the court.

JR:Patrick is a great teammate. He does everything people want him to do. He works hard, just needs to get a little more vocal like I’m trying to be because there should be more than one leader on the floor. We have four seniors, and I know a lot of us should be trying to lead these guys. Patrick, he’s just a great guy off the court and I know that carries over to on the court. I know I can trust him off the court, and I definitely can trust him on the court. I think I speak for everybody when I say that. He’s just a good guy to be around, always keeps a smile. You never see him frowning, and he just brings joy to the room.

SN: Give me one guy on your team who’s going to surprise everybody with how good he is this year.

JR:Definitely D.J. Seeley. He is one of the guys who has been MVP of all of our practices. But what I preach to D.J. is that we have an All-American in Patrick, you know, and it’s the same thing me and Patrick went through. We had to wait our turn, and that’s what it’s about. It’s tough being the man in high school and grade school and then you come to college and it’s not the same thing. You really have to wait your turn. That’s something I struggled with. He lives with me, so we have a lot of time to talk, and he’s like my little brother, and I think he’s really getting it. D.J. is an awesome player. I’m not just saying that because he’s like a brother, but you guys will see. When he gets there on the court, he’ll definitely open some eyes, for sure.

SN: What’s one game on the schedule you can’t wait to play?

JR:Every game. I’m just looking forward to getting out there on the court and showcasing my God-given abilities. But, I would say the Kansas game. Sherron Collins is somebody that I played against in high school, and I never beat him. He’s always got me, he’s always the No. 1 point guard in Chicago, and I was behind him. He’s somebody who I respect his game, and I’m just looking forward to the challenge.

SN: How many times did you face him?

JR:Three times. And they won all three times. It sticks with me. He’s a West-side guy and I’m a South-side guy so there’s always that battle. But we’re actually pretty cool, though.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:26 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey Avi

Upon further reflection I’m not doing the fantasy basketball. I’ve come to the sudden realization that I know less about the NBA than Twist does about maturity. Unless you guys require one more person then I’ll join and get ass whooped daily

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:29 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

We'll see what happens

I’ll let you know, check your inbox every ten minutes.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:39 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’ll do it if you still need someone

by Kai on Oct 27, 2009 2:36 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hold on, I’ll inform yf, he should send you an invite.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 2:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Decker's done

Is Minnesota’s season done too?

Minnesota wide receiver Eric Decker, an All-America candidate, is finished for the rest of the regular season with a strained left foot.

He would come back if they made a bowl, but at 4-4 that won’t be easy…

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:41 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is he draft-elig?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he's a senior

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I liked what I saw of him in admittedly limited action.

Where do you think he can be drafted?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

First-second round. He could be the best WR prospect behind Dez Bryant.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Would he be a good fit in a standard pro-style offense or is he better suited for the spread?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably pro. Good at running routes and he has great height.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Got a pretty good arm, too. I wonder if MLB will draft him?

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Jake Locker?

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 27, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like Dennis Dixon?

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Twins already have

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 1:08 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like carp?

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here’s hoping he doesn’t have dinner with Chris Collinsworth!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s shy of enough credits for graduation by an amount obtainable within a semester or two.

by sec119 on Oct 27, 2009 1:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hes a senior

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a senior.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 12:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a senior

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s a senior.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s 4 or 5 years removed from his senior year in high school.

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--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 1:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me, dude. That doesn’t make you a Senior.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 2:02 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, it definitely doesn’t make you a junior. He’s either a senior or a super senior.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Redshirt, blueshirt, greyshirt

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 2:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I suppose in Minnesota, it’s kind of a dried blood-colored shirt.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unless you went on a Mormon mission!

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 2:15 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

He’s an AARP member who currnetly eats dinner at 5 PM.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 27, 2009 4:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OMG, I just missed dinner!

by CalBear81 on Oct 27, 2009 4:37 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

A strain can end your season? Unless it’s the Longshore “I broke my bone” strain…

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 12:44 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder if the diagnosis is still uncertain. Decker was injured in the 1st quarter of the Ohio State game last Saturday and spent the 2nd half on the sideline on crutches.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 27, 2009 1:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it’s lupus.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 2:03 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

C’mon. You should know by now that it’s never lupus.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 27, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fuck. There goes the fantasy team. First Bradford, now Decker…

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it makes you feel any better, you beat me because I started an injured QB.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somehow, that’s small comfort.

You had a heck of a week, though. With an actual QB, you’d have had the highest score in the league.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 27, 2009 12:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was at a conference Friday-Sunday so I set my lineup Thursday night…didn’t have time to check in on injuries. I’m only one game behind rockrunners though, so not too worried yet.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 12:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Notre Dame is playing Wazzu this weekend?

They should just join the Pac-10. They play enough games against us.

Cal Football: It could happen!

by CalBandGreat on Oct 27, 2009 12:53 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I object! Then we (which is to say SC) couldn’t mock them for their mercenary habits, and everyone else would say they had found a way to formalize their cream-puff scheduling.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 12:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

4th quarter interception. Shocking.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 27, 2009 1:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well my head just exploded.

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by Rishi on Oct 27, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Flagged. Where’s Tatooine?

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 1:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tatooine is a white trash planet. I’m also sick of their claim of having the best football conference in the universe.

Cal Football: It could happen!

by CalBandGreat on Oct 27, 2009 1:17 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pod-racing = NASCAR?

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 27, 2009 1:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Zactly.

Cal Football: It could happen!

by CalBandGreat on Oct 27, 2009 1:19 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good question, it should definitely be there. Also, did anyone else just feel that disturbance in the force? Felt like a million voices silenced at once…

by sec119 on Oct 27, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah that was just a fart

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 1:46 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m amazed you heard it all the way over there. On balance the mega chili-dog for lunch was a miscalculation.

by DC Trojan on Oct 27, 2009 1:47 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWVshkVF0SY

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Oct 27, 2009 4:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did this get lost?
But a growing number of Cal academics are disturbed by the practice, arguing that the prestigious research university should not subsidize elite athletes at a time of soaring college costs, faculty furloughs and reduced course offerings.

The faculty, which will debate the issue at next month’s Faculty Senate meeting, is not alone. Now the independent Knight Commission on Intercollegiate Athletics – formed 20 years ago by the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation to raise academic standards in college sports – is turning its attention to an out-of-control “arms race” among college football programs competing to pay increasingly high coaches’ salaries and other associated costs.

“The data is eye-opening and quite troubling – athletic expenditures are rising three or four times faster than academic budgets,” said William “Brit” Kirwan, chancellor of the University System of Maryland. He’s co-chairman of the Knight Commission, which on Monday released a survey of university presidents’ views on the cost of programs in the Football Bowl Subdivision, the nation’s 120 top college football teams.

“We’re painfully aware of the global fiscal implosion and the impact it’s having on academic institutions,” Kirwan said. “As a result, 75 percent of presidents say we can’t continue on this path.”

The faculty are f***ing pissed. Their pay has been threatened or has been be cut, their researchers have been cut, and their facility guys (electrician, glass shop homie) have also been cut or s-canned. “There is nothing more demoralizing than furloughs” as King Cheesedick Mark Yudof recently told us. Everyone’s getting screwed – whether they receive state funding or not…except, of course, for athletics. For the sake of this argument, say Ms. Yones’ report has some semblence of the truth and these “loans” from the general fund are true…this is low-hanging fruit for the faculty. They’re pissed at Yudof cuz he took Excramento’s problems out on us and now, in turn, they’ll take it out on athletics. Couple this with the general feeling that “well, someone has to do something academic at this university” and that the word “sustainable” is used in every possible scenario and you can see where such a meeting will not be good from the Intercollegiate Athletics perspective.

The real question is: does the academic senate have any real power or is this a circle-jerk fest?

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 2:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope to god our football recruiting doesn't get ruined over this

I don’t want another 60s repeat

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 2:06 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wilner put down the hash pipe and chimed in.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 2:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cal is not going to be the only school that gets affected

If this becomes an issue, it’s going to be nationwide.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 2:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yea but it depresses me

I’m a selfish bastard. Now that I have my degree all I care is that Cal has a damn good football team.

I’m kidding btw

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 2:10 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sort of. But not really. I have a hard time believing the Tennessee’s, Florida’s, ’Bama’s and LSU’s will struggle to run their football cash cows.

It will definitely effect the UC’s (including FUCLA) and perhaps every other school save for USC. ’Furd’s been hurting for Athletic Department cash (cuz they’ll do everything they can to keep the research wheel turnin’).

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We’re not going back to the 60s. I believe what happened in the 60s was a function of widespread antipathy towards athletics as opposed to athletics and academics being in a (ostensibly) zero-sum situation because of a recession.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 27, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

IIRC there was hostility towards athletics because of the counter-culture movement.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 27, 2009 2:18 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m like 60% sure the faculty have some power here. Assuming they do, I think they’ll seek what Yudof avoided…that is to either:

(1) divide the UC system up into who gets state funding and who does not, and have the state funded people get furloughed/cut. He won’t do this because of the epic medical center clusterf**k and because this will result in drastic cuts to those that get their money from the state.

(2) Treat everyone in the UC system as one (hey…how ‘bout that…“uni-versity”) regardless of funding sources. This method takes from Peter to pay Paul, but that’s the world we’re living in. We’re already doing that with our 100% federally-funded researchers. This means the athletic department won’t get the Universal Hall Pass under the umbrella of “we use no state funds” even though they take a mighty big drink from the general fund flask. I think they’ll also move to get some freakin’ accountability for this so called “general fund.” This will be a fantastic kick to Yudof’s nether region. What’s a more effective to the world: watching 4 world-class profs leave for the Ivy’s or listen to Tedford, Monty, Neuheisal, and Howland bitch about their cramped style? Uni-versity. I presume everyone on campus will eventually be left with some amount of funds cut, regardless of their source.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark

by carp on Oct 27, 2009 3:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

YOU JUST WANT DAVIS IN THE PAC-10. I SEE THROUGH YOUR ‘POINTS’ !!!

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 27, 2009 3:15 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

they have only limited power, as only academic depts

are afected by what the academic senate decides on stuff.

that said, i hope some one makes a presentation to them along the lines of increased donations due to high profile athletic programs at cal and ucla v. santa cruz, santa barbara, etc. that will not affect the haters, but will afect those who vote/decide these issues.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 3:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Big Baby Davis injured, likely to be suspended for a bit too.

Looks like he’ll come back around the same time as Leon Powe.

According to the police report obtained by the Herald, Davis claimed his allegedly drunken childhood pal was “continually bothering his girlfriend,” Jenna Gomez. . . . “It was two guys that had a fight over something that was said to a girlfriend,” Waltham Detective Capt. William Stanton said. “They assured us there would be no more problems.”
In the wake of a thumb injury sustained during a recent altercation, Celtics forward Glen “Big Baby” Davis likely will be suspended by the team, owner Wyc Grousbeck confirmed to the Globe this morning.

    Grousbeck initially reported that a suspension was “very likely” during an interview with Gene Lavanchy on the Fox 25 morning show.

    “I’ve had enough of ‘Big Baby,’ so I’m going to start calling him Glen,” Grousbeck told the Globe. “It certainly seems like there’s going to be a suspension here.”

Nice job Cs.

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 3:22 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Seems like Big Baby has a top flight entourage

by chowder on Oct 27, 2009 4:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Relevance to the DBD!

I hope this hasn’t been posted already, but I found this little gem in the East Bay Express:

Is Cal really losing money?

Perko also said that the Knight Commission report didn’t analyze the profitability of individual schools, or individual sports programs, so there is no way to know whether Cal football is a money loser. Also, there is no way to know from the report whether Tedford’s salary is worth it, although there are indications that it might be. The report notes that the biggest schools make more money from bowl game appearances. And under Tedford, Cal has had its most successful football team in years.

by Shadwhand on Oct 27, 2009 3:34 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

if football didn't make money, we couldn't do

all the other sports we do (at a loss of only $5-6M per year)

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Oct 27, 2009 3:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Currently listening to Mogulof/Barbour on KNBR

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 5:48 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

holy fuck these two are way, way, too good for the Razor and Mr. T.

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 27, 2009 5:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

What’s going on?

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by Avinash on Oct 27, 2009 5:52 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can’t type fast enough (it’s on right now) I’ll post a little synopsis later. There’s also a thread on BI.