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Cal-Washington State Postgame Thread & Grade the Bears

This is the place to discuss how I couldn't understand what was going on because Joe Starkey was calling the game the Cal-Washington State game. If you want to discuss the rest of the games, scroll down to the "Non-Cal Football Open Thread"!

For the report card, it'll probably be harder for people who weren't at the game to get a clear season, so it's understandable if you can't fill in things like defense or offensive line categories. People who WERE at the game, please write up what you saw at the game! Considering how few people attended, we'll need them all. The form is here, or you can click after the jump to submit it directly from the site.

Postgame thoughts will be coming sometime tonight or Sunday morning!

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Here's what I think of Joe Starkey after today's call.
Screw the haters. GO STARKEY!
84 votes
I like him, despite his flaws.
63 votes
Can't stand him; he'd be so much better on the tube.
14 votes
He's been living off The Play for years.
33 votes

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Well, uh, at least it was better than the last time WSU came to Berkeley?

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 24, 2009 4:47 PM PDT reply actions  

I was bored out of my mind during the first quarter

Then the next three quarters I was facepalming at every long pass given up by our secondary.

by BleedinBlue on Oct 24, 2009 7:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m not sure what to make of this comment.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 7:20 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m often bored by 3 Cal TD’s in the first quarter

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

I honestly don’t even know how somebody could be bored at a Cal game. 55,000 of your best friends are right there!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Actually, not all 55,000 of my friends were able to make it this game. :(!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 7:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

Bah, alright, bored wasn't the right word

After 3 TDs my attention started drifting from the game to the fellowship application essays I should probably have been doing.

by BleedinBlue on Oct 24, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am in complete agreement with that statement. After 3 TDs, you do start to lose focus. I watched the rest of the game, but spent most of it just enjoying the afternoon with friends while a football game happened to exist nearby.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

I am in complete agreement with that statement. After 3 TDs, you do start to lose focus. I watched the rest of the game, but spent most of it just rolling in between the bleacher seats, actively roiling in a heroin/E/speedball rage, trying to claw my eyeballs out as my friends and onlookers screamed in terror.

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 25, 2009 12:13 AM PDT up reply actions  

I am in complete agreement with that statement. And as your friends, we’re here to try to help you, Spazzy. The first step is that you have to admit you have a problem.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 25, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

Should be interesting grading

After all, many of us didn’t actually watch the game!

Kind of an evening out of emotions. Last week, I was inordinately happy with the win over Fucla, mentally capable of overlooking a lot of the warts in the win. This week, I’m somewhat disgruntled over a 49-17 win over WSU, emotionally incapable of looking past the fact that we gave up a crapload of yards.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 24, 2009 4:50 PM PDT reply actions  

Yet we did pitch a second half shut out, and they did have the ball for billions of plays because of the quick strike nature of our early scoring.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 24, 2009 5:01 PM PDT up reply actions  

All I'll say

is that I heard multiple screams of ALAMAR in the student section during the game

by whodat21 on Oct 24, 2009 5:45 PM PDT reply actions  

there were a lot of screams of ‘HAGAN!!’ in QQ

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

grumble damn big plays grumble

:D

Only one stat matters. Final score.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Oct 24, 2009 5:48 PM PDT via mobile reply actions  

Motherclucking gombadam I probably have heatstroke. At least I got some free sunglasses and a free rag.

DeBoskie+Sofele will be so awesome.

by JrBear on Oct 24, 2009 6:09 PM PDT reply actions  

and two more years of vereen. and fucking Yarnway — already looks like he’s 27

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 24, 2009 6:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

now only if the defense can let them get on the field….

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 6:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

does that mean Coleman looks 35? ;p

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 6:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

This

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by giantfan5 on Oct 24, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I think it must have been more frustrated for people who weren’t able to see it. Perhaps especially for those listening to Starkey – the man isn’t exactly an optimist

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 24, 2009 6:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Starkey is normally a cheerful guy, at least after the game when I listen to his post-game talks and stuff. He brought up the obvious problem with pass coverage which was prevalent today, but he, Troy Taylor and the Paragon crew all said that they have positive outlooks to the rest of the season (we’ll finish 9-3 or 10-2, stuff like that).

"Today's weather, excessively violent with a chance of dismemberment. Tune in later for our 5-day forecast!"
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by Swamphunter on Oct 24, 2009 6:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Post-game I think you get the picture of everything that happened. But during the course of the game, you get analysis of each play. When you are listening to the radio, without a picture, and here “Riley overthrows the pass” your tendency is to assume that it was an awful pass. But, you have a really limited amount of information. Unlike some announcers, I think Starkey does do a decent job of not just ignoring what is happening on the field because the Bears have a 30 point lead.

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 24, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Shut up

DOOOOMEEEDDD!

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 24, 2009 6:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

For all you pessimists out there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bmxyj6iInMc

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by Swamphunter on Oct 24, 2009 6:39 PM PDT up reply actions  

The California Golden Hurdlers

I swear, our team hurdles more people than any other team ever. For those who weren’t there, Deboskie had a great run where he hurdled a guy to pick up a 1st down.

In response to JrBear above, Covaughn is good, but you probably won’t see him much with Isi. The three guys I expect to see next season (assuming Jahvid doesn’t come back) would be Shane, Isi, and Dasarte. I have a really good feeling about Dasarte, who is moving around and running a lot better and looks to be recovering well from his injury. Dude is fast and powerful and has the potential to be a great back for us starting as early as next year.

Also on the topic of the future, it was really good to see Sweeny get into the game so early in the 4th quarter. He completed several nice passes, at least two of which were for 1st downs. Overall, a lot of good stuff in that game.

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by giantfan5 on Oct 24, 2009 6:45 PM PDT reply actions  

Sweeney seems to be the next QB of the future, so sad. No party yacht…

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah. I like Beau a lot. The QB competition this off-season will pretty interesting. Beau has the spot now, but Brock could still make a move to reclaim the spot. It’s not like one is miles better than the other; both are pretty good QB’s.

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by giantfan5 on Oct 24, 2009 6:57 PM PDT up reply actions  

Don’t forget they’ll have to fight off Austin Hinder!!!! (Bridgford doesn’t count due to lack of pornstar name)

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 6:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

I think long run though, Bridgford is the man, right?

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 24, 2009 7:28 PM PDT up reply actions  

depends on how much rain we’re having.

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Nah, I’m not big on either Bridgford or Hinder to tell you the truth.
 
I think Beau may have that underrated super-accuracy our QBs have lacked.

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 24, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

That’s good to hear – super-accuracy certainly is the trait that Rodgers and Leinart had in common, and they were the last two QBs who have really been awesome in the P-10.

Random question: On what are you basing that assessment? Have you been watching practices, just reading articles, or watching HS highlights?

by Tedfordisgod on Oct 24, 2009 8:12 PM PDT up reply actions  

Just got back fromt he game. So hot. What a day! I barely remember anything from the game. We were up 21-0 in the blink of an eye and then after that it was just party time!! I have the greatest story ever. I’ll save it for the photo essay, it’s going to be GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD.

What a great game! GO BEARS!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 6:48 PM PDT reply actions  

You did look a little confused out there…

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 6:52 PM PDT up reply actions  

Confused?

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 6:53 PM PDT up reply actions  

No wait, that was me. I didn’t see ya’ll this time.

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 6:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

Hahaha

No one will ever doubt me again! Fuck you Joe! You suck!

Goin' balls deep with Cal since 1972!

by Fire Starkey on Oct 24, 2009 7:04 PM PDT reply actions  

Any priceless Starkey quotes?

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 24, 2009 7:07 PM PDT up reply actions  

Best takes the hand off, gibberish, and he’s gone, touchdown!

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 7:08 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

My eyes and ears tend to glaze over but he was as horrible as I remember.

One the Ross punt return here’s his call “Ross takes the punt…turns a corner…he’s gone but it won’t matter. There’s a flag on the Bears. Blah blah blah” Very low key the whole time. Then shock when its a hold on the Cougs. God, he sucks. No descriptions, no feel for the game.

“Riley drops back to pass…throws…HE’S GOT IT! Jeremy Ross!” Lots of shit like that. Fuck an A he sucks

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by Fire Starkey on Oct 24, 2009 7:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

Didnt that Ross punt count? It’s difficult for me to remember what was going on because the haze of successful plays all run together, but I feel as if that flag was called back or against WSU somehow.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Against WSU, holding while blocking for the kicker

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 7:17 PM PDT up reply actions  

that’s cuz I got you high as shit

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by carp on Oct 25, 2009 8:08 AM PDT up reply actions  

Considering the Apple Bong Q I’m about to drop on yo candy asses, this amuses.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 25, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

that is so senior year of high school.

"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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by carp on Oct 25, 2009 5:00 PM PDT up reply actions  

He kept going on and on about players’ names. He’d see a name and make some bizarre comment about how he’s in a random group somehow related to the name or how there’s some other person in history with a similar name who did something-or-other. We speculated that he was drunk or high (or both).

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 24, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

“I feel like I should quote Winston Churchill whenever I call out Winston’s name” or something like that

by Kai on Oct 24, 2009 7:29 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, that was one of the bizarre ones. And something about a guy named Aire Justin and how he should have his own airline company.

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 24, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

by the way, i'm persuing through the game threads

And Starkey is full of hyperbole. Tedford was definitely upset, but he wasn’t blasting Riley. The stadium was practically full until the second half to the 55k capacity, until the students were overwhelmed by the sun and started deserting up 42-17.

Tuel is a pretty good quarterback. Not great, but very good. Bears were playing a lot of man coverage in the first half and Tuel BURNED THEM with some great throws. Which is why Gregory went back to the zone.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 24, 2009 7:17 PM PDT reply actions  

I’m not sure practically full is really a good description. It wasn’t as bad as the EWU game, but there were definitely some gaping holes. Of course, the south east corner (near me) was particularily bad, because few WSU fans.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 7:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

It matched the 55k capacity predicted I figure.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 24, 2009 7:24 PM PDT up reply actions  

That didnt seem like 55K to me.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

55k tickets bought… some didn’t show up?

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 24, 2009 7:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

To misquote Starkey, a lot of them dressed up as empty seats

by Kai on Oct 24, 2009 7:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Not a bad misquote

That’s pretty close to what he said, if not exactly what he said.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 24, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

and when you put your legs on the bench in front of you and use the one behind for a backrest, you count as three people :)

by turkey on Oct 24, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is the only thing I miss from Holmoe-caust.

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by GBB4188 on Oct 24, 2009 9:11 PM PDT up reply actions  

That number is always inflated.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 7:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

TWSS?

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 24, 2009 7:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

You didn’t see JT go 10-15 yards onto the field to yell at Riley after he pitched the ball to Vereen on the option? He was pretty pissed off…

by Cali49a on Oct 24, 2009 9:54 PM PDT up reply actions  

I actually missed this. Can you provide further context? Thanks.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 10:19 PM PDT up reply actions  

Cal offense was driving to the south endzone. QB option was called to the short side of the field. Riley ran the option and pitched. JT went out on the field and let a rip on Riley. I kind of doubt he was shouting words of encouragement. Lasted 5-7 seconds. The radio announcers on KALX talked about it as well.

by Cali49a on Oct 24, 2009 10:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

Makes sense… Riley was giving it up way too quickly when we were playing UCLA. didn’t sell anything at all

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 24, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

I vaguely remember the option play, but do not remember seeing Tedford yell at him. Hmmm, interesting.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 10:41 PM PDT up reply actions  

Was that the play that Vereen lost 5 yard on? I didn’t even realize it was option, I thought it was just a designed pitch play.

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by norcalnick on Oct 24, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yes, that was the play. 90% positive this was an option because the guys behind me started screaming that we ran the option to the short side of the field, which was my thought as well.

by Cali49a on Oct 24, 2009 11:04 PM PDT up reply actions  

Troy Taylor noted this on the KGO broadcast, too.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 25, 2009 12:23 PM PDT up reply actions  

This was one of the few times I remember Tedford going onto the field. He was pissed when that play didn’t work—Vereen got beat to the edge by WSU and lost like four yards.

by paleodan on Oct 25, 2009 8:46 AM PDT up reply actions  

Watching Cal 98’s highlights, after Riley threw that pick, Tedford came out onto the field and barked at him.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 25, 2009 8:48 AM PDT up reply actions  

TUEL!!!!!

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 25, 2009 12:44 AM PDT up reply actions  

KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

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by TwistNHook on Oct 25, 2009 8:18 AM PDT up reply actions  

From where we were in the student section, there was a group of about ~25 guys who would scream “TUEL” at the top of their lungs anytime the announcer said his name for pass plays/runs etc.

What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.

by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 25, 2009 12:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

He might be a Tuel, but our pass defense was getting used!

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 25, 2009 4:40 PM PDT up reply actions  

Those who attended

Did any of you see Follett on the sidelines?

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 24, 2009 7:37 PM PDT reply actions  

………………….no

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by TwistNHook on Oct 24, 2009 7:38 PM PDT up reply actions  

I thought I saw him around campus, actually. On Sproul plaza coming out of the student store having bought a new beanie, actually. I was like “nah, that can’t be him…”

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by giantfan5 on Oct 24, 2009 7:45 PM PDT up reply actions  

don't worry

we don’t care around these parts

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 24, 2009 8:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

LOL @ Dick Callahan

“a 26-yard gain, plus one hurdle”

by calgbear on Oct 24, 2009 10:59 PM PDT up reply actions  

:)

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by carp on Oct 25, 2009 8:05 AM PDT up reply actions  

I’ve been to a bunch of college football stadiums, and perhaps I’m totally biased, but Dick Callahan is totally my favorite PA announcer.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 25, 2009 9:35 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well he’s better than the asshole Furd announcer: “The Axe comes home!!!!” or the Oregon announcer “Hey guys look at the stats. Best only has 10yds rushing but LaMicheal James has over a 100!”

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 25, 2009 1:21 PM PDT up reply actions  

The ‘Furd announcer is possibly the most irritating one I’ve ever heard.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 25, 2009 4:42 PM PDT up reply actions  

I loved how after the play everyone was walking around playing it cool and Sweeney comes up and hugs him

by Kai on Oct 25, 2009 12:52 AM PDT up reply actions  

Fuck, PRD totally owned all my video—he was totally in the right place to get the best video angles. This is what I get for trying to take video into the light—WHY DID IT HAVE TO BE SUNNY???

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 25, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions  

Looks like the dude with his arms outstretched...

is about to get pantsed.

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by secret ASian man on Oct 25, 2009 1:13 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions  

What’s it supposed to say?

by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 25, 2009 5:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the vid

That was awesome. Every bit as exciting as Starkey made it seem on the broadcast.

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 25, 2009 12:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

Starkey did something right! HE IS REDEEMED!

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 25, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions  

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