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Inside The Numbers: WSU Edition

We've run an Inside The Numbers post for the following teams:

Maryland, EWU, Minnesota, and UCLA.

We haven't done it for the following teams:

Oregon and USC

With that in mind, LET'S RUN THE NUMBERS ON WASHINGTON STATE!  Leave nothing to chance.  NOTHING!  In that vein, Avinash and myself take a few moments to look over some WSU numbers and see what conclusions we can draw.  Enjoy the stats and add your thoughts after the jump.  GO BEARS!

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TwistNHook:  First, let's take a look at their passing stats:

 

Situation G Att Comp Pct. Yards Int TD Rating Long 1st 15+ 25+
All Plays 6 201 104 51.7 1143 10 5 97.77 99 47 24 8
1st Half 6 102 49 48.0 464 6 1 77.72 33 21 10 3
2nd Half/OT 6 99 55 55.6 679 4 4 118.43 99 26 14 5
1st Quarter 6 39 18 46.2 169 3 0 67.17 29 9 3 1
2nd Quarter 6 63 31 49.2 295 3 1 84.27 33 12 7 2
3rd Quarter 5 33 18 54.5 288 2 2 135.74 47 10 6 3
4th Quarter 6 65 37 56.9 391 2 2 111.45 99 16 8 2




Uh, I don't want to beat a dead horse here, but this ain't good.  I realize that you can't beat a dead horse when it's the first comment you make, but let's be honest here.  I have yet to even look at the rest of the stats and I kinda know how this one is going to go.  Just take a look at their ratings.  77 in the first half!  77!  In the NFL that is not very good.  In college, that's horrific.  Their numbers actually improve in the second half.  Not great, but actually mediocre.  This might be due to being down by a lot and the opponents playing softer coverage.  I'm not entirely sure.  What I do know is that 6-1 Int to TD ratio in the first half favors Cal.  If we can get a few picks early in this game, we could get into a solid position to not have to worry too much about the second half.

 

Avinash: 

Winning By 15+ Pts 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 0
Winning By 8-14 Pts 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 0
Winning By 1-7 Pts 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 - 0 0 0 0
Tied 3 11 5 45.5 34 1 0 53.24 13 2 0 0
Losing By 1-7 Pts 5 37 18 48.6 189 2 1 89.67 29 9 5 1
Losing By 8-14 Pts 5 36 18 50.0 160 1 0 81.77 22 8 5 0
Losing By 15+ Pts 6 117 63 53.8 760 6 4 109.44 99 28 14 7

Looks like you're right. Although it appears that Wazzu's QBs are behind all the time, so it's hard to tell (their one win, they didn't lead until the game winning field goal). We need Losing by 25+, Losing by 35+, Losing by 45+ stats to understand the deeper meaning.
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Jeff Tuel will get the start though, so let's focus on him (Lobbestael is the backup, and has some awful stats):

Own 1 To 20 Yd Ln 3 7 5 71.4 130 0 1 274.57 99 3 3 1
Own 21 To 39 Yd Ln 2 15 7 46.7 50 0 0 74.67 17 3 1 0
Own 40 To Opp 40 Yd Ln 2 8 7 87.5 50 0 0 140.00 18 3 1 0
Opp 39 To 21 Yd Ln 2 11 6 54.5 67 2 1 99.35 23 2 1 0
Opp 20 To 1 Yd Ln (RZ) 1 5 1 20.0 11 1 0 -1.52 11 1 0 0

You can only tell so much from this small a sample, but wow...I didn't even think a negative college passer rating was possible. 

He seems very comfortable at getting his team out of bad territory (he threw a 99 yard touchdown pass) but struggles once he gets into opposing territory. He did throw a touchdown against USC's third stringers in super garbage time, but other than that, three picks, around a 40% completion rate. Still, it's better than Lobbastel, who seems to look horrible all over the field.



I am saddened that James Montgomery got injured and will miss this game, because

a)it would have been great to see him play
b)he was their best back, I believe.

Now, we have Dwight "Don't Be" Tardy "To The Party."  Yes, I know that not only is that Bermanism truly heinous, but the fact that I know what "Don't Be Tardy To The Party" is means I should just turn in my Y chromosome right now. 

Situation G Att Yards Avg. TD Long 1st 10+ 20+
All Plays 6 200 453 2.27 4 40 29 15 5
1st Half 6 107 248 2.32 0 23 18 11 2
2nd Half/OT 6 93 205 2.20 4 40 11 4 3
1st Quarter 6 57 133 2.33 0 23 10 5 2
2nd Quarter 6 50 115 2.30 0 16 8 6 0
3rd Quarter 6 57 135 2.37 2 28 7 2 1
4th Quarter 6 34 67 1.97 2 40 4 2 2

From the guys who brought you terrible passing stats, we now have terrible rushing stats.  Wow, this is bad.  2.27 yards per carry.  The 1.97 yards per carry in the 4th is bad, but if you see they have much fewer attempts in the 4th.  Most likely due to the fact that they are behind and throwing frantically to catch up.  There's not really a lot you have to analyze here.  Considering that we've generally held opposing RBs in check, save for anybody in a green and gold jersey and Joe McKnight from time to time, I feel fairly good at keeping Dwight Tardy under control.
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Avinash:  To be fair, there are a lot of sacks there.

Tardy won't be the only guy; Logwone MItz and Carl Winston are going to see action too.  They will probably all get savaged.

1st Down 6 91 314 3.45 0 40 6 8 4
2nd Down 6 68 118 1.74 2 20 11 5 1
3rd Down 6 36 -10 -0.28 2 9 8 0 0
3rd Down, 1-3 To Go 6 11 27 2.45 1 8 7 0 0
3rd Down, 4-6 To Go 5 11 -11 -1.00 1 5 1 0 0
3rd Down, 7-9 To Go 2 3 -6 -2.00 0 -1 0 0 0
3rd Down, 10+ To Go 4 11 -20 -1.82 0 9 0 0 0
4th Down 3 5 31 6.20 0 15 4 2 0

Clearly the key to open up Wazzu's game is to get into...4th down situations???



TwistNHook:  Dude's name is Logwone?

If their passing attack isn't very strong, what about their passing D?  Can they stop the pass?

The answer is no.  SURPRISE!

Situation G Att Comp Pct. Yards Int TD Rating Long 1st 15+ 25+
All Plays 6 200 134 67.0 1739 7 10 149.54 73 67 34 17
1st Half 6 103 74 71.8 1020 1 9 181.94 73 34 20 12
2nd Half/OT 6 97 60 61.9 719 6 1 115.15 61 33 14 5
1st Quarter 6 52 40 76.9 520 1 7 201.49 57 19 10 6
2nd Quarter 6 51 34 66.7 500 0 2 161.96 73 15 10 6
3rd Quarter 6 53 32 60.4 382 3 1 115.84 40 19 8 2
4th Quarter 6 43 28 65.1 337 2 0 121.65 61 14 6 3


I like how they are giving up 67% of their passes with a rating of 149.54.  That first quarter rating given up is absurd.  201!  So, when the game is close (ostensibly) and their opponents are playing first string, they have a redick success rate.  201 is beyond insane.  Hopefully, this will give Riley an opportunity to continue building confidence.  He appears to be an emotional player.  I say that not as an insult or even really a compliment, but what appears to be a statement of fact.

For example, after the interception against USC, he looked rattle for the rest of the game.  But at UCLA, when he had some great success under his belt early, his confidence was sky high and his play never really dipped.  Hopefully, Riley can take advantage of a weak opponent here and continue to build confidence from that UCLA game.  I mean these numbers speak for themselves.  7 TDs allowed in the first quarter by the pass.  That's just crazy.



Avinash: These stats are even more absurd.
1st Down 6 98 70 71.4 921 4 3 152.31 61 35 18 8
2nd Down 6 55 37 67.3 515 0 5 175.93 73 17 10 6
3rd Down 6 43 25 58.1 249 3 2 108.18 40 13 4 1
3rd Down, 1-3 To Go 5 12 6 50.0 69 1 1 109.13 23 6 2 0
3rd Down, 4-6 To Go 3 5 5 100.0 37 0 0 162.16 10 4 0 0
3rd Down, 7-9 To Go 6 11 6 54.5 47 1 1 102.26 12 2 0 0
3rd Down, 10+ To Go 6 15 8 53.3 96 1 0 93.76 40 1 2 1
4th Down 3 4 2 50.0 54 0 0 163.40 29 2 2 2

9 yards per pass attempt and 71% completion rate on 1st down...uhh...you're dearly screwed. Followed up by another 9 yards per pass attempt and 67% completion rate on 2nd down. Dear God. Those awful Beaver teams from the 60s/70s/80s are shuddering at those numbers.

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Surprisingly Wazzu is pretty good in the red zone in terms of defending the pass...
Own 20 To 1 Yd Ln (RZ) 6 26 10 38.5 75 1 2 80.38 16 2 1 0

But that's probably because they're already in the end zone before they make the red zone.
Opp 1 To 20 Yd Ln 5 17 11 64.7 119 0 0 123.51 36 5 2 1
Opp 21 To 39 Yd Ln 6 46 41 89.1 650 1 2 217.82 73 23 12 7
Opp 40 To Own 40 Yd Ln 6 59 35 59.3 436 3 2 122.42 57 19 5 4
Own 39 To 21 Yd Ln 6 52 37 71.2 459 2 4 162.99 29 18 14 5



TwistNHook:  Let's take a look at rush D here.

Situation G Att Yards Avg. TD Long 1st 10+ 20+
All Plays 6 220 1199 5.45 17 53 60 37 12
1st Half 6 108 638 5.91 12 44 36 22 7
2nd Half/OT 6 112 561 5.01 5 53 24 15 5
1st Quarter 6 46 296 6.43 5 31 16 10 5
2nd Quarter 6 62 342 5.52 7 44 20 12 2
3rd Quarter 6 44 231 5.25 1 53 9 4 2
4th Quarter 6 68 330 4.85 4 39 15 11 3

Ya.  I kind of feel sorry for these guys.  I mean giving up 6.43 yards per carry in the 1st quarter?  That's just rough.  Their best numbers is 4.85 and that is in the 4th when ostensibly the opponent is running out the clock and the D can key in on the run.  Even when everybody KNOWS the WSU opponent is going to just be running, they still can't stop them. 

I mean think about that average.  That means that if in the 4th quarter when the opponent is trying to run out the clock, if they were to run on every play, they would slowly, but surely march down the field and score a TD.  They'd get roughly 9 yards on the first 2 plays and then covert on the 3rd and short.  So, even when the opponents try to not succeed, THEY STILL SUCCEED. 



Honestly, this is a team where we need to focus on 2 things:

1.  Keeping all of our players healthy.
2.  Ensuring proper execution in game time situations. 

The first is, by far, the most important.



Avinash: 
Oh my Lord.

1st Down 6 108 558 5.17 10 53 15 17 4
2nd Down 6 76 395 5.20 4 44 30 10 4
3rd Down 6 29 178 6.14 1 31 10 8 2
3rd Down, 1-3 To Go 5 15 94 6.27 0 30 8 5 1
3rd Down, 4-6 To Go 4 5 10 2.00 1 12 1 1 0
3rd Down, 7-9 To Go 4 5 56 11.20 0 31 1 1 1
3rd Down, 10+ To Go 3 4 18 4.50 0 10 0 1 0
4th Down 4 7 68 9.71 2 39 5 2 2

So basically you can run for 5 yards per attempt on 1st and 2nd down each and pick up the first down, or pass for 9 yards per attempt on 1st and 2nd down with about a 50% chance of completing both passes to get the first down, or do a little of both and still pick up the 1st down. And if you don't pick up the 1st down, you're still left with a lot of 2nd and short/3rd and really short situations. Wow. Poor Cougs.

Actually Washington State is pretty good in 3rd down conversion defense (35%, 36th in the country)!!! I think it's because everyone's so surprised the offense needed a 3rd down to get to first down that they don't know what to do! Of course it makes you wonder how horrible the converting the 1st down on 1st and 2nd down stats look like.


Cal should be up by double digits in the first quarter. If they don't, they clearly aren't taking this one too seriously. Wazzu's first string defense and offense, they just aren't good. If this is a two score game or less at halftime we should be seriously concerned about the future games coming up.



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thanks for the breakdown!

Omg. This could get ugly.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Oct 22, 2009 7:43 AM PDT via mobile reply actions  

You know, I don’t mean to get personal, mean, petty, or anything — and this is not a reflection on Paul Wulff as a man, coach, person, citizen, savior, or anything else — but I just can’t stop thinking his head looks like a potato.

On ATQ I'm known as JSoCal Oski

It's spelled J-etc

by SoCal Oski on Oct 22, 2009 7:52 AM PDT reply actions  

He looks like a neanderthal

by BerkeleyChris on Oct 22, 2009 8:03 AM PDT up reply actions  

He looks like he’s going to eat Dennis Erickson…

Undefeated in Southern California since Oct. 2009...

by CruzinBears on Oct 22, 2009 8:15 AM PDT up reply actions  

Wow, I feel bad for Wazzou after reading this.

Maybe we can make the game more exciting by flipping a coin beforehand and agreeing to only run the ball all game (heads) or only pass all game (tails)?

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 22, 2009 9:37 AM PDT reply actions  

We feel sorry for us, too

I’d like to know who thought they were being funny by voting for “big loss for Cal”

by Jeff Nusser on Oct 22, 2009 10:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

By the way

After last night’s podcast, I’m guessing “close loss for Cal” is you, Twist.

by Jeff Nusser on Oct 22, 2009 10:23 AM PDT up reply actions  

After last night, I’m trying to change my views on things. I’m working towards being “arrogant” about “expected success.” So, I voted for “big win” to start things going in the right direction. I immediately felt dirty and took another shower. But the dirt did not come on.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 22, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions  

1985 – Cal v. Washington State. Cal was leading 19-0 with seven minutes to go in the fourth quarter. We lost 20-19. A Cal fan can never be arrogant about expected success.

Plus, their little WSU/Cougar symbol is very cute, especially the little whiskers. They could get points just for that.

by CalBear81 on Oct 22, 2009 11:20 AM PDT up reply actions  

This has set my progress back. I mean we didn’t win in the Palouse from like 1976 to 2005 or something like that. So, let’s slow down with all the “Regale WSU to the WAC” stuff.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 22, 2009 11:31 AM PDT up reply actions  

I had no idea the letters “W” and “S” were actually in that logo. Learn something new every day.

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by AERose on Oct 22, 2009 11:45 AM PDT up reply actions  

I never noticed there were whiskers. LOL. I’m serious.

by YleeXOtee on Oct 22, 2009 12:08 PM PDT up reply actions  

For the longest time I thought the logo was “WC” for Washington (state) Cougars. I had never noticed the whiskers, though.

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by Berkelium97 on Oct 22, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions  

It used to be “WSC” for Washington State College. When they changed their name to Washington State University, they just turned the C into a U.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 22, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

What a stupid list.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 22, 2009 11:47 AM PDT up reply actions  

At least 5 of the logos on that list are actually pretty good, IMO.

by sycasey on Oct 22, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. I like the logos of TCU, Memphis, Cincinnati, LA Tech, and WSU. I do agree with the assessment of Toledo’s.

RTT thinks ours is just “boring.”

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 22, 2009 7:15 PM PDT up reply actions  

Some people don’t understand class.

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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Oct 22, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions  

Agreed

A lot of people think the Yankees are boring.

Wait, bad example.

by Jeff Nusser on Oct 22, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

The Trojans are boring?

Wait … give me some time … I’ll think of this yet.

by Jeff Nusser on Oct 22, 2009 8:51 PM PDT up reply actions  

How about: a logo that’s just an orange “T” is boring.

by CalBear81 on Oct 22, 2009 10:14 PM PDT up reply actions  

People who go around dressed in putrid orange have no business criticizing anybody. But I have to agree about the horned frog.

by CalBear81 on Oct 22, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions  

I assume the big loss votes are of the “Anti-jinx” variety. Otherwise, FTW

by YleeXOtee on Oct 22, 2009 12:05 PM PDT up reply actions  

We’ve run an Inside The Numbers post for the following teams:

Maryland, EWU, Minnesota, and UCLA.

We haven’t done it for the following teams:

Oregon and USC

clearly, you guys are responsible for our two losses. i demand an apology!

correlation = causation, right?

by atomsareenough on Oct 22, 2009 9:50 AM PDT reply actions  

In all sincerity, though, the defensive stats have been skewed a little bit

While six games is half the season, it’s still a pretty small sample size. The Hawaii and Oregon games were so horrifically bad that they make everything look a lot worse than it otherwise would have been.

Don’t get me wrong. We’re still bad. Just maybe not as bad as these numbers suggest.

by Jeff Nusser on Oct 22, 2009 10:26 AM PDT up reply actions  

Well that team last year….man…you can only go up.

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by Avinash on Oct 22, 2009 10:33 AM PDT up reply actions  

isn’t saying half the season is too small a sample size like saying 150 million people is too small a sample size to characterize the U.S. population

by YleeXOtee on Oct 22, 2009 12:10 PM PDT up reply actions  

No. Sample size is dependent on the number of data points in the subset, not what percentage of the entire population the subset comprises.

In other words, it’s too small a sample size because it’s 6, not because it’s half the season.

dboneisloose

by HolmoePhobe on Oct 22, 2009 12:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

the challenge, and i don't know if anyone has

is to look at the standard deviation in the numbers. if it’s large, then moar games needed! if it’s small…then….ouch…they blow.

Go Bears Go

by Rocksanddirt on Oct 22, 2009 12:37 PM PDT up reply actions  

This is what I came up with

http://www.cougcenter.com/2009/10/15/1084438/is-the-defense-really-better

You’ll notice that two games were way, way out of control this year. But again, if you look at the same 6-game sample size from the first half of last year, you’d have to conclude that our defense wasn’t that bad, actually playing reasonably OK in about half the games. It was only as we got up through more games that we knew what we truly had on our hands …

by Jeff Nusser on Oct 22, 2009 1:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

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