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Concerning Cal's Defensive Woes Against UCLA

I was thinking about Cal D’s performance on Saturday.

Many people thought that Cal’s defensive showing was terrible to attrocious and that Bob Gregory sucks. I disagree. I’m not saying that the defensive showing was good (because it clearly wasn’t) nor that Gregory is cleared of all blame but just that it wasn’t as bad as it looks.

Let’s look at the facts shall we?

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1) UCLA had a kicker that was almost automatic from anywhere inside their 40
- This meant that if Cal was to hold UCLA to 0 points on the drive they’d have to stop the drive somewhere before the UCLA 40.

2) Cal’s ST woes (i.e. ALAMAAAARRR!!) gave UCLA a field position of somewhere around Cal’s 30-40yd line.
- This basically meant that UCLA had about 20-30 yds at the most to go before scoring.

3) Cal’s defensive personnel is less experienced (and arguably less talented) than last years’. Especially the LB corps.
- Mohammed looked good last year because the offenses were too worried about Pain Train and co to focus in on the Prophet.

4) Arguably the best player on the defense, Syd’Quan Thompson, was out for most of the game. His replacement was a RS Frosh Josh Hill (I’m counting Hagan as the other DB) whose experience is limited to getting abused by Oregon and USC.

5) UCLA got away with blatant holding on the Cal d-line. Hasaik was bear-hugging on Franklin’s 74yd run. Alualu was double-held on every down. Yet they were never called. This made the pass-rush almost non-existent.

So in short I think with what he had Gregory did an admirable job. Now he wasn’t perfect (10 MEN ON THE FIELD!?) and he could’ve been a bit more creative (such as the delayed blitz which worked when it was rarely run). But the fact is people were expecting too much out of the defense with the LB corps gone. If we had looked at it without our blue-and-gold glasses we’d have seen that the defense was going to have growing pains.

What do others think? Was Gregory playing it too safe? Or was it, given the circumstances, justifiable?

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Josh Hill actually had a fairly good game in open field tackling, even if he isn’t quite ready to cover receivers yet.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 21, 2009 7:36 AM PDT reply actions  

I do also agree the special teams makes Gregory's job tougher

There have been WAY too many short fields; the first touchdown of the game resulted in one big play followed by an immediate score. Also that was the case in the Minnesota game, where two Gopher touchdowns were aided by short fields to work with.

Strangely the special teams was a non issue against, of all teams, Oregon.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 21, 2009 7:38 AM PDT reply actions  

Anger’s 5 yard punt vs Oregon was a joke. And I think there were a few missed FGs. Don’t recall exactly.

The team’s struggles are definitely tied into Anger’s struggles the past few games.

by Cali49a on Oct 22, 2009 6:16 PM PDT up reply actions  

Although that 5 yard punt was fairly rough, I felt that Anger played fairly well otherwise. Didn’t he have about a 70 yard punt at another time. On the whole, I felt he did a good job.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 22, 2009 6:36 PM PDT up reply actions  

Anger didn’t have a 70 yard punt vs Oregon.

First half Punts:
44 yard punt, touchback for net of 24 yards, Oregon FG
38 yard punt, touchback for net of 18 yards, Oregon TD
34 yard punt, oregon 17 net gain of 34 yards, Oregon Punt
5 yard punt, cal 48 net gain of 5 pathetic yards, Oregon TD
Second half he had 45, 33, and 46 yard punts when the game was over.

We really needed Anger to pin Oregon inside the 5-10 on those first 2 punts. He can’t be blamed entirely for Oregon scoring on those possessions but it would have it that much more difficult for Oregon’s O if they were pinned down inside their 10. His 3rd punt was absolutely lousy but Oregon didn’t score. And his 5 yard punt essentially allowed Oregon to score and put the game out of reach for good at the end of the first half at 25-3.

Against SC, he didnt have the booming punts we needed to gain field position. But it may be unreasonable to always have to depend on the punter to help you out.

Against Minnesota, he had at least one bad punt that gave Minn good field position and they scored.

by Cali49a on Oct 22, 2009 7:02 PM PDT up reply actions  

Clearly, we were on two separate pages. I was discussing the UCLA game. Didn’t he have a 5 yard punt in the UCLA game, too?

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by TwistNHook on Oct 22, 2009 7:26 PM PDT up reply actions  

No, Anger didn’t uncork another 5-yarder. His shortest punt was the 22-yard shank he had in the 1st quarter.

Anger punted 7 times in the Ucla game. Punt distances were:
22, 45, 51, 72, 58, 45, and 57.

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by Ohio Bear on Oct 22, 2009 11:13 PM PDT up reply actions  

We really needed Anger to pin Oregon inside the 5-10 on those first 2 punts.

I think that’s on the punt coverage team. Twice they were in position to down the ball inside the five or ten, and both times they let it bounce into the endzone. Anger put the ball in the right place at the right time, it’s just the coverage didn’t come through on the back end.

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by AERose on Oct 22, 2009 8:55 PM PDT up reply actions  

I can agree with you here. I rewatched these 2 punts and one landed on the 4 and bounced into the endzone and the other landed inside the 1 and bounced into the endzone. Both could have been downed inside the 5, but it would have taken a heck of a play by the coverage unit the second time to do this.

by Cali49a on Oct 23, 2009 8:22 AM PDT up reply actions  

I get that this is a younger, less experienced defense than last year, but that reason isn’t all that satisfying when I continue to see the other guys gain huge chunks of yardage.

The big problem seems to be our passing defense. Consider, we ended up making Kevin Stinking Prince look like John Elway out there, not to mention how good Masoli looked. Consider that for a moment. Prince and Masoli looked like first rounders against the Cal pass defense.

I’m not sure if it’s personnel or scheme, but something just isn’t working. It seems as if the LBs just are incapable of providing any meaningful pass support at all, but I don’t know enough to say whether that is because they are incapable, or they aren’t being used properly. Fortunately Ucla is completely impotent offensively, so they ended up with mainly FGs for their effort. But Oregon kept getting into the end zone. It makes me worry, however, about what might happen against Zona, Furd, and UW.

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by SoCal Oski on Oct 21, 2009 8:31 AM PDT reply actions  

3) Cal’s defensive personnel is less experienced (and arguably less talented) than last years’. Especially the LB corps.

I certainly agree this is the case with the linebackers. But our D-line and corners/safeties have MORE experience than last year, not less. With SQT out, though, we’ve got troubles.

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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 21, 2009 8:33 AM PDT reply actions  

I think we all anticipated some drop off at LB. I thought we might have trouble against power run teams, but did not anticipate getting killed in the short-medium passing game because our LBs can’t cover TEs.

More troubling is that the entire defensive backfield seems to have regressed (including Squid) and Jordan has not materialized as a threat opposite Tyson as many expected.

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by OskiMonsta on Oct 22, 2009 5:58 AM PDT up reply actions  

A big problem is Hagan isn’t playing consistently at the level he was last year. He’s been battling a knee injury which has affected his technique. Cal misses Follett and Rulon more than most fans think.

by Cali49a on Oct 22, 2009 6:18 PM PDT up reply actions  

definitely. miss LBs and Rulon

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by Thoroughbred on Oct 22, 2009 10:25 PM PDT up reply actions  

I’m OK with the defense’s performance against UCLA, and to a lesser extent against USC. Still, I was anticipating a higher level of performance.

The only explanation that really makes sense is that the new linebackers are such a significant downgrade from last year’s unit. Still, I can’t help but get the feeling that both the secondary and the defensive line are performing at a lower level than last year. I wish I knew why. I suppose you can make the argument that weaker linebackers means that more plays last longer and more completions are allowed over the middle and in the flat. Still, I feel like each unit has taken a small step back.

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by norcalnick on Oct 21, 2009 6:45 PM PDT reply actions  

I actually thought the defense performed better against USC than they did against Cal, but that may just be me.

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by Rishi on Oct 22, 2009 6:28 AM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

you mean UCLA?

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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 22, 2009 10:24 AM PDT up reply actions  

Some of your points are fine

But #3 just = “the defense isn’t good”, which is the statement you are supposed to be contesting.

  1. is somewhat heartening, but, our lack of pass rush was still a serious problem. Pass rush is a key part of defense, especially in the Pac-10. We don’t have a good one, and it’s killing us. We need more risky blitzing, because giving up endless first downs loses the game, even if you have a safety further back to prevent the TD.

That’s the Oregon game in a nutshell – just kept giving up 1st downs. O stays on the field.

Now UCLA didn’t execute nearly as well as Oregon (who was great – let me take a little of our D by saying some of those Oregon plays were perfect). Since perfect Offense beats perfect Defense, a defense needs a combination of great play along with some level of misfire by the Offense. Great defensive numbers come by both getting aggressive and lucky, and getting the O to make so many mistakes they’re off the field before they can burn you (just string 3 D plays together and you’ve got a punt very often). Two 3 yard runs and an incompletion, you’re home.

One of the best things a D can do get the O to make more mistakes is to bother the QB. It might pay great dividends (great QBs can take 20 hits and get fired up – sorry D). Leaving him alone to get into a rhythm certainly hurts the D. I think this pays even greater dividends in college than pro, ergo Gregory should call more blitzes.

If we could get pressure with our vanilla zone package, then fine – don’t change it – but we aren’t. So change it. Bring more pressure, even if you have one less DB back there (or 2!). Because you’re letting them get too many first downs.

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by JerrottWillard45 on Oct 22, 2009 1:59 PM PDT reply actions  

Honestly, I’m not sure why fans always seem to think aggressive = good. If just being more aggressive was more effective, that’s what everyone would be doing. The reality is there are lots of ways to be successful, and successful coaches do well because they find a good mix for their team and scheme. That’s not to say there are never coaching mistakes, maybe we should be blitzing some more, I’m just making the point that blitzing/aggression might not make our D better (and might make it worse). We might not have effective blitzing linebackers, I don’t know – but the coaches probably have a good reason behind calling the game the way they did…

by Missing Barry on Oct 22, 2009 6:09 PM PDT up reply actions   1 recs

Hmmm - somehow it parsed "#5" as a numbered list at put a "1." for my 2nd paragraph

My 2nd paragraph is saying if we were held (your point #5), then at least were in a dangerous spot and probably doing the right thing.

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by JerrottWillard45 on Oct 22, 2009 2:00 PM PDT reply actions  

Maybe...

I don’t mean to be saying aggressive is always good, period. That’s too simple, so sorry if that’s what my post boiled down to.

But I count results on the field, not in practice – so I don’t care if our D looked more successful in practice with a less aggressive pash rush – it’s not working on the field, so change it. What I’ve seen on the field over 6 games is when we had more QB pressure, we had better D. And our zone D was getting smacked both over the middle and on WR routes so they need help getting QBs out of rhythm.

And it’s my prerogative as a fan to do Monday morning quarterback!

I also haven’t seen that when we blitzed or got aggressive, we got burned for it. If that happened, I’d be happier to go back to safe. But you don’t do much worse than the Oregon loss. And frankly, you can do a hell of a lot better than our D did against UCLA.

Also, here’s one of the college football things to ponder. If your D is going to give up a TD, would you rather have them do it quickly or slowly? I’d argue quickly. That probably goes along with risky/aggressive defenses. Maybe you get the sack – maybe you give up a long TD. But then your D gets off the field, gets rest, and your O is on the field, hopefully controlling the game. There’s a lot of ways this plays out, but a disadvantage of the prevent and also the BBDB is spending a lot of plays out there, the D gets tired, while the enemy O gets into rhythm.

I prefer the D goes all out, and gets the stop or pays the price. Then they go all out next series.

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by JerrottWillard45 on Oct 23, 2009 3:02 PM PDT reply actions  

One of the key things is what you do vs. a weak team compared to vs. a strong team

Against a weak team, you can play a more vanilla defense with far more success. The enemy O will make mistakes without much effort on your part. You’ll get a pass rush that hurries or sacks with 3. You’ll keep the run game to 2ypc without aggression.

But against the strong team that doesn’t happen. What went wrong with your great defense? It wasn’t aggressive enough to succeed against a well-oiled O.

This has generally been my criticism of Tedford’s coaching style. He’s coaching towards beating about 7 of the 9 enemy Pac-10 teams every year. A good (but not great) vanilla O and D, well executed, with 4 but not 5-star athletes, has a great shot at beating 7/9 Pac-10 teams.

I’m not satisfied. I want to see the risk-taking necessary to beat a better team, at least some of the time.

When was the last time you think Cal beat a team that was frankly better than us – athletically, skill positions, size of the D and O lines, etc.?

We’re still working on beating teams as good as us consistently. Or beating teams that are perhaps a little weaker than us on the road.

I want the bar set higher. That’s how I think Oregon St. plays – sometimes they blow it against weaker opponents, but they have an aggressive plan, that if it works can knock off anybody. That’s more fun to watch week in and week out.

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by JerrottWillard45 on Oct 23, 2009 3:08 PM PDT reply actions  

When was the last time you think Cal beat a team that was frankly better than us – athletically, skill positions, size of the D and O lines, etc.?

I’d have to say Oregon 2007. Amirite?

Praise be to Tedford!

by Ohio Bear on Oct 23, 2009 7:32 PM PDT up reply actions  

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