CGB Top 25 - Week 7

by ragnarok on Oct 20, 2009 6:15 AM PDT in California Golden Bears Football

Anyone else having trouble filling out the bottom of their ballots? I keep waiting for teams to impress me, and for the most part, they're just not doing it. It really makes me want to start filling out a Mumme Poll ballot instead.

Rank	Team	Delta

1	Alabama
2	Florida
3	Cincinnati	2
4	Texas	2
5	Southern Cal	2

Yep, still SEC at the top. Did Florida look flawed in fumbling around with Arkansas at home? You bet they did. Still, their season at this point is at least as impressive as Cincinnati's or Texas', and LSU on the road is a better win than anything either the Bearcats or the Longhorns can boast.

Rank	Team	Delta
6	Boise State	2
7	Iowa	2
8	Miami (Florida)	3
9	Georgia Tech	6
10	Oregon	3
11	Virginia Tech	8

So, Georgia Tech beat Virginia Tech at home to vault the Yellowjackets into our top 10. Of course, we now have exhibit #3257 as to why the associative property doesn't apply to football: Virginia Tech already has a home win over Miami, who has a home win over Georgia Tech. You want to try and sort those three teams out? Be my guest. Be sure to back up your argument with convincing evidence.

Elsewhere, Boise stumbles a couple spots after it struggles to put away Tulsa on the road, while Oregon moves up a few spots after soundly defeating the ever-fearsome BYE.

Rank	Team	Delta
12	LSU	2
13	TCU	5
14	Oklahoma State	9
15	Texas Tech

What's Oklahoma State doing in the Top 15? A nice thrashing of Missouri sure helps, but I submit to you that it's mostly because all of the teams below them have been even less impressive than the Cowboys. On the whole, the Big XII has really failed to impress so far this year (Texas might be really, really good, though I don't know how you could tell...).

Rank	Team	Delta
16	Brigham Young	1
17	Penn State	1
18	Arizona
19	Pittsburgh
20	South Carolina	2

Combined, these five teams have just one win over team currently in our Top 25: Arizona over Central Michigan. The most impressive wins to date for this group are still BYU's win over Oklahoma and ... uh, I guess that win over CMU. Pitt, Penn State and Arizona have yet to even play a team that was ranked at the time of the game. South Carolina's defensive struggle vs. #1 Alabama is probably the best reason to rank the Gamecocks at this point, as that win over no-longer-ranked Ole Miss probably won't carry much weight at season's end. A thoroughly 'meh' group...and we've still got 5 more to go.

Rank	Team	Delta
21	Houston
22	Ohio State	10
23	Central Michigan
24	Arkansas	1
25	Notre Dame
Last week's ballot

Welcome back, Houston. Welcome back, Notre Dame. Welcome, Central Michigan. Somehow, Ohio State is still ranked...don't look at me, I didn't do it. Losing to a previously 1-5 Purdue team could be considered grounds for relegation to Division I-AA, let alone ejection from the Top 25. Arkansas at least displayed moxie in nearly knocking off Florida on the road, which is why they move up in this week's poll.

Dropped Out: Nebraska (#14), South Florida (#16), Wisconsin (#19), Kansas (#20), Oklahoma (#21), Auburn (#24).

And some teams lost, and dropped out of our Top 25. Turns out Kansas wasn't that good in the first place; losing to Colorado is just as bad as losing to Purdue. At least they didn't lose 31-10 on their home field (I'm looking at you, Nebraska...). We probably shouldn't have ranked Auburn last week; the mistake has been corrected, those responsible have been sacked.

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Here was my ballot

1. Alabama
2. Florida
3. Texas
4. Cincinnati
5. USC
6. Boise State
7. Iowa
8. Miami (FL)
9. LSU
10. Georgia Tech
11. Oregon
12. Oklahoma State
13. Virginia Tech
14. Penn State
15. TCU
16. BYU
17. Texas Tech
18. Pitt
19. South Carolina
20. Ohio State
21. Arizona
22. Central Michigan
23. Utah
24. Oklahoma
25. Wisconsin

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 20, 2009 9:03 AM PDT reply actions

I just looked over Ohio State’s schedule, they really have done nothing to warrant a Top-25 ranking:

1. Navy, win (31-27)
2. USC, lose (18-15)
3. @ Toledo, win (38-0)
4. Illinios, win (30-0)
5. @ Indiana, win (33-14)
6. Wisconsin, win (31-13)
7. @ Purdue, lose (26-18)

The Wisconsin win is nice, but the rest of their victories are against bad teams. I’m also of the opinion Wisconsin is thoroughly mediocre.

by chowder on Oct 20, 2009 9:42 AM PDT up reply actions

I guess its always easy to cherry-pick teams that should be knocked out of the Top-25, but really hard to find suitable teams to replace them.

by chowder on Oct 20, 2009 9:44 AM PDT up reply actions

Notre Dame?

Just curious … based on what?

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by SoCal Oski on Oct 20, 2009 9:30 AM PDT reply actions

That’s my fault, and it’s based on the fact that I couldn’t find 25 teams I felt were worth ranking. I voted for them over an Ohio State team that had just lost to Purdue and a 3-3 Oklahoma team.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 20, 2009 9:45 AM PDT up reply actions

The more I think about it...

… The more I think Florida should be punished and Arkansas should be rewarded as if Flordia lost the game. TBH Florida would’ve lost if it weren’t for the questionable calls. It wasn’t as if both teams played brilliant and one bad call gave one team the win. No, Arkansas outplayed Florida for most of the game and thanks to the refs Florida won.

Now naturally if Arkansas was better they’d have won the game regardless and Florida is good enough to seize the opportunities, so the rankings should not reflect exactly what would’ve happened if Florida lost. But it should be close to that reality.

In other words, Go Bears!

by royrules22 on Oct 20, 2009 9:35 AM PDT reply actions

I wasn’t happy with those calls either, and considered downgrading Florida a few spots (especially since they cost me my bet too). However, Arkansas got their own gifts with, what, three Florida turnovers in the red zone (when does that ever happen?), and ultimately beating LSU in Baton Rouge still won out for the resume balloting.

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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 20, 2009 9:55 AM PDT up reply actions

Arkansas and South Carolina

It’s funny how they move up after losing.

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