DBD - 10/16/09 - Tebow will be a great NFL QB?
by HydroTech on Oct 16, 2009 1:57 AM PDT
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So a friend of mine is a Florida fan. After Florida's win over LSU last week, I emailed her saying something along the lines of: "congrats on the win, i was rooting for lsu, i'm tired of all the tebow love."
Later my friend emails me back saying something along the lines of "am I correct in assuming that if Tebow was on Cal's team that you wouldn't dislike him?"
I sent back a response essentially saying: "Well, I would actually not care much of Tebow was on Cal's team because Tebow probably wouldn't even be starting on Cal's team. He's not the pro-style QB that Tedford wants or uses in his offense. Tebow isn't even that great of a QB. He has a slow release. He doesn't even spiral the ball half the time (which gets problematic on deep throws and windy conditions). He doesn't get good RPMs on the ball (again, problematic for windy conditions). His accuracy is questionable. He doesn't have the experience or maybe even the ability to drop back from under center and make a read. I don't think he's going to make a good QB in the NFL. Right now he's a great college player because he's surrounded by blue chip talent, on a great team, and in the right system."
I might have pissed off my friend because then she sent back a response saying that we should make a bet on Tebow being a great NFL QB and that she thought he would be a great NFL QB. She seemed genuinely upset that I dissed Tebow.
So, my fellow CGB denizens, I ask you for your opinion...
DO YOU THINK TIM TEBOW WILL BE A GREAT NFL QB?
I mean, don't let this information sway your decision, but draft experts such as Mel Kiper have already said Tebow is probably like at the highest, a third round draft pick ... AS A TIGHT END. Others have said similar things saying he has no chance at playing QB in the NFL. Or at least, he has very little chance at making it in the NFL as a QB.
I'm not the only one that has reached this conclusion.
Random CBS writer says Tebow ain't going to be great:
He has an NFL body, he has NFL athletic ability, and he has an NFL head and heart. He just doesn't have an NFL arm. Nothing wrong with that. Very few college quarterbacks -- very few Heisman Trophy winners -- have an NFL arm.
Weaknesses: Absolutely horrendous footwork ... Plays in a run-option offense and it will take him 2-3 years to learn an NFL offense ... Horrible touch on the football, which is difficult to catch ... Nice accuracy on the deep ball, but it's very inconsistent in the intermediate routes ... Extremely long release ... Shown no improvement in his mechanics over his career ... Locks on to primary receivers all the time ... Speed at wide receiver made a lot of his throws look better than they actually were.
Summary: Tim Tebow lacks the basic precision passing qualities for what it takes to be an NFL quarterback, and as of now I'm giving him a fourth-round draft grade ... Needs to improve mechanics drastically ... Transition to being an NFL signal caller should take some time ... Needs to be more of a calm/cool/collected leader on the field rather than being so emotional ... Second halves against Michigan and LSU showed Tebow's great flaws when they neutralized the run option and forced him to be a pocket quarterback ... He could be a solid fullback in the NFL with his running style if it doesn't work out at quarterback.
Mel Kiper says Tebow will have a great NFL career .... as a Tight End:
Kiper said ... that Tebow is likely to play tight end when he enters the NFL in 2010.
"I think an H-back, tight end projection, like we've had quarterbacks move to wide receiver in the past," Kiper said. "That's what I think he will be. ... (Tebow) can have a very successful career in the NFL, but not at quarterback."
So what do you guys think? Many of us has seen Tebow play. Certainly, if the NFL team that drafts him wants to tinker with their offense and make it more Florida-like for Tebow, I think he can be *productive* in the NFL.
But in my opinion, he's never going to be Peyton Manning good of a passer. I just don't see the mental acuity, I don't see the mechanics, I don't see the arm.
So should I take up the bet with my friend? Or shall I be a gentleman and tell her to keep her money and thank me in 3 years when Tebow is 4th string QB on some NFL team or playing fullback or tight end?
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It depends.
If he’s used as a pro-style QB, like you said, he would probably fail. If he’s used in a Wildcat offense like the one Miami sports that allows for multiple run and passing options for the quarterback, one that relies on down and distance, I think he could potentially thrive. So he has to be paired with a coach and a system that caters to his abilities.
But as a typical starting QB? No. He’s not going to be a typical NFL quarterback, that’s for sure. He doesn’t have the ability to hit several spots on the field that a conventional NFL QB needs to hit, just like Matt Leinart. If he’s going to succeed, the system that he works in needs to be different.
I’m a little kinder than Hydro. I do believe he’s better than his talent suggests. He made some great throws against Alabama and Oklahoma that hints at NFL potential, and I think we’ll know more the longer he works with Loeffler. But he’s going to struggle mightily if a team tries to force its system down his throat. As of yet, he’s not fully developed—maybe we’ll know more in the championship games (SEC and BCS, whereever it is) he’s bound to play in.
Kiper is a moron. Tebow as a tight end is laughable.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 16, 2009 3:10 AM PDT reply actions
When I mean down and distance
I mean it allows him to multiply his run/pass abilities so that teams respect his running ability. Obviously Tebow gets hit a lot right now, but say you bring him in like Pat White in the 4th quarter for a designed QB draw or switch him in and out with a pocket passer. Two QB systems never work in the NFL because you give guys the same functions and they always worry that the other dude will overtake them and get their snaps. Tebow as a complementary QB with the threat of running, handing off to a capable running back, and occasionally passing and blocking? Could do good things.
I’d be really intrigued to see that.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 16, 2009 3:14 AM PDT up reply actions
USC, Michigan, and Alabama all wanted him in their “pro-style”. I don’t buy the “spread QBs don’t work in pro offenses” argument. It’s dumb and unsubstantial. The only valid point I can think of is regarding the footwork from under center. And if that’s the biggest problem, life is pretty good.
I think him and Denver or New England are are a match made in heaven. He wouldn’t be rushed out on to the field in a hurry… so he would have time to refine his passing, and get a quicker release.
He isn’t going to be a Peyton Manning. But how many QBs in the HISTORY of pro football are even comparable to Manning? Maybe ten? Even that is a rather generous estimate.
Mel Kipper might have a good idea of what NFL scouts are looking for, and where people will get drafted, but he’s awful about predicting a college player’s success in the NFL.
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Name me one spread QB that has performe well in the NFL.
Name me ten.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 11:13 AM PDT up reply actions
How long has the spread been around?
How long do QBs play in the NFL?
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How do you define “spread”?
Realistically, the wishbone was spread, same with single wing, etc.
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Kevin Kolb of the Eagles came from a primarily spread offense at Houston and he’s doing ok. Extremely small sample size (two games), of course, but, you know. I’m trying to find a couple more examples.
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by yellow fever on Oct 16, 2009 11:03 AM PDT up reply actions
Drew Brees and Kyle Orton both played in the spread at Purdue.
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by yellow fever on Oct 16, 2009 11:04 AM PDT up reply actions
That spread is more comparable to what the Pats run now.
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So? It’s the spread. That’s successful spread QBs for you.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 16, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh come on, you’re smart enough to know there are different types of spread offenses. Though I may not have been 100% clear, you know we’re discussing the Tebow, Masoli, etc. running spread-type QBs.
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That wasn’t clear at all.
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It was fantastic."
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That’s another thing, yes. If we’re just talking the basic concept of “an offense spreading out the defense” then New England has effectively been running the spread for several years now. Year-to-year NFL teams are spreading out more, and taking more and more snaps out of the shotgun. (New England, Arizona, and Kansas City all took more than 50% of their snaps out of shotgun last year). You’ve got Drew Brees that has looked pretty freaking good for an NFL QB.
If we’re talking the spread option offense, like Rich Rod, Chip Kelly, Urban Meyer… You’ve a sample size of about… one, or two starters, and two, or three backups. I could easily name fifty QBs that have always been in a “pro-system” that have sucked more. The “No spread QB has performed well in the NFL” is crap, because you have the smallest of small sample sizes.
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So, if I understand you correctly, just because something is the smallest of the small sizes, that doesn’t mean it’s bad?
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It doesn’t MEAN it’s bad… but it doesn’t MEAN it’s good.
You under perform. You need to keep your wife quiet.
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Already made a wife joke. You’re late to the party, shoe.
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Damn… Didn’t see it. Stupid phone call, hurtin’ my style.
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What about the kind of offense Nebraska ran in the 90s?
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Nebraska didn’t really spread out the field. Yeah, they ran the option, but defenses could stack the box.
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Except when Eric Crouch caught passes!
Seriously, what the hell?!
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Fo’ rizzle!
Reminds me of Harrington, who Passed, Ran, and CAUGHT a TD in a single game.
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Why must everything always be about Oregon?
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I said quality beer, not carbonated piss.
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Hold on…Rishi, remind us what your favorite beers are again?
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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 12:59 PM PDT up reply actions
HUGE difference between my favourite beers and what I normally drink due to availability and ease of drinking
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availability and ease of drinking
drinkability, some might say
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried to post that, but Budweiser sued me while I previewed it.
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Weren’t you praising Bud Light Lime or some equally horrid urine in a bottle concoction? I take your points about availability and ease of drinking but any beer that with “Lime” in the title is automatically dog piss.
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by Fire Starkey on Oct 16, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Have you tasted it?
Trust me, it’s not bad. And it really is perfect for buying a twelve (or twenty-four) pack and pre-gaming with a couple buddies.
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You lost your right to make fun of Oregon Beers for the rest of your life.
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by JShufelt on Oct 16, 2009 2:28 PM PDT up reply actions 3 recs
Sorry money is a concern for some people, Mr. Moneybags
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Not the Bud Lime version but one of the others. All Bud products give me a headache literally within 2 sips so I stay away. The point about Lime beer remains however
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by Fire Starkey on Oct 16, 2009 2:41 PM PDT up reply actions
Furthermore: do you count Dennis Erickson and Mike Price’s one-back pass-first offenses as spreads?
(I don’t think you can call the wishbone a spread offense, in that it fails what is more or less the litmus test of a spread offense does it stretch the field horizontally. Hard to stretch the field with two backs not in good position to release downfield.)
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I don’t buy the "spread QBs don’t work in pro offenses" argument.
Late to the discussion, but it seems to me that most teams aren’t afraid of a QB because he runs the spread – they’re afraid of QBs who became successful in college based more on their running ability than their throwing ability, so the real question would be is there accuracy if someone said “run first QBs don’t work in pro style offenses.”
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Tell that to Graham Harrell and a dozen other big-stat passers from spread teams.
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True, it’s not the only issue. But I don’t think most NFL scouts are scared of a QB just because he played in a spread offense, especially since at this point most QBs are coming from a spread offense in college anyway. I think it is safe to say that many NFL types are scared of QBs who are mostly successful for their running abilities and really really extreme systems, ala the Red Raiders.
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Scared? No, it’s because most of them can’t work in a pro-style system. You need to make I think a certain set of throws in that offense, and most college QBs don’t have that strength or decision-making ability.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 16, 2009 8:30 PM PDT up reply actions
I don’t follow that logic. They can’t make a certain set of throws because they’re in a different system? Huh?
The decision-making ability is simply a preposterous argument. A spread QB lives in dies by their decision-making. A smart QB will make a good decision, regardless of the system. A good QB will make a good throw, regardless of the system.
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He’ll be as great like other former college great quarterbacks like Tommy Frazier, Scott Frost, Eric Crouch, Jason White.
Wait, what’s that?
Oh. college success is not necessarily replicable in the NFL? You don’t say.
Rule #1: Never trust any quarterback who was coached by Tommy Osborne.
Rule #2: NEVER EVER trust a quarterback who was coached by Bob Stoops. (Watch out, whoever drafts Sam Bradford).
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 16, 2009 3:20 AM PDT up reply actions
Interrupting the Tebow symposium with Cal content
Jeff Faraudo Interview with Harper Kamp aka Bob Knight’s favorite Cal player
It’s a pretty good interview with a lot of topics are covered. Here’s a piece:
What is your role on the team?
HK: Right now my role is to get healthy. It’s going OK. I’m not where I would have hoped to be, but at the same time, it could always be worse. I think I’m making progress, it’s just slower progress than I would have wanted. I’m able to get in there and do a little bit of work on the court with the guys. The knee is feeling pretty good day to day, but I’m not able to get in back-to-back days of intense work on the court just because of the way my knee reacts.
My knee is not 100 percent healthy. It’s not a great knee. It’s going to be a bad knee as long as I’m playing. The key is to figure out what I’m able to do with that. I’m still going to be able to produce on it.
I’m doing some things . . . light contact stuff, very tentative. I can’t change directions very well, I’m not getting off the floor very much at all. That’s probably the biggest problem for me right now, getting off the floor, being physical to get a rebound.
It’s going to take a long time to get the endurance and strength back in the knee. They changed the structure of my knee, rearranged stuff. Eventually, it’ll be back the way I want. I’ll always have to managge it in some way, but it’ll be to a point where I’ll be happy with it.
My favorite part because I agree:
When you look at playing at Madison Square Garden next month in the Coaches vs. Cancer tournament, is it hard to resist daydreaming about a shot at national champion North Carolina in the finals?
HK: That’s a big one. It’s something that you dream of, teams like North Carolina, Syracuse, Ohio State. I think a lot of people look at it that way, but honestly, all those teams . . . I would love to get another crack at Ohio State. We didn’t play so well against them (in an NIT loss) a couple years back.
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Could be worse
He could’ve said “Worse than Brady Leaf.”
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 16, 2009 6:11 AM PDT up reply actions
did u c my linky yesterday? Leaf’s turning over a new leaf in the land of maple leafs.
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also, I have a friend who absolutely despises Leaf because of his San Diego tenure. He claims that SD’s experience with Leaf drove them to trade away the draft rights to Vick for LT, Drew Brees, Tim Dwight, and some other lesser assets. Of course, in retrospect it seems San Diego received the two best players in that trade.
Kevin Riley
The unimaginative headline of the story:
“When he’s good, Cal wins games. When he’s not…”
Cal quarterback Kevin Riley took advantage of his bye week: He and his girlfriend visited the Monterey Bay Aquarium, where underwater creatures cared not a whit about the Bears’ recent troubles on offense.
Riley also used the bye to join head coach Jeff Tedford in an uncommon after-school session. Last Friday, while many of Riley’s teammates went home to visit family, he and Tedford spent about an hour together at Memorial Stadium.
They worked on mechanics, adjusting Riley’s posture as he drops back to pass. Riley also fired footballs into a net, seeking to sharpen his accuracy as he and Tedford began pointing toward this week’s game against UCLA at the Rose Bowl.
Praise be to Tedford!
Not to sound too harsh
But Riley needs to spend a lot more than one hour on his mechanics and accuracy.
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by yellow fever on Oct 16, 2009 6:52 AM PDT up reply actions
Agreed, but perhaps there are weekly limitations on the total amount of time a player can spend with a coach practising drills.
Or maybe they were doing it the Michigan football way: they SAY the workout was just an hour, but…you know.
Praise be to Tedford!
…then a 2 hour cool down pillow fight.
by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 16, 2009 9:01 AM PDT up reply actions
I wonder if Riley overshot his gf during sex.
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by Rishi on Oct 16, 2009 7:42 AM PDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would hope that if Riley has a gf, she’s withholding sex until he throws a touchdown pass.
So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!
Maybe CaliSeth can help loosen him up.
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Or loosen her up AMIRITE GUYS
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Just making inappropriate sexual comments about Kevin Riley’s girlfriend.
Otherwise known as an average Friday here.
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let’s giver her props: as of now, she can’t be found on the internetz.
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Means she does not exist.
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Carp: did you hear what happened to Colt McCoy’s girlfriend after Rick Reilly name-checked her?
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She turned out not to exist?
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Actually, a quick google search tells me that deadspin put up her photo and stuff, she emailed them to ask them to take it down, they said no, she responded remarkably calmly. She also went to the #1 googled topic for abit.
Deadspin has really fallen since Leith left, hasn’t it.
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Wrong Colt-McCoy’s-girlfriend Deadspin article; there was a more recent one.
http://deadspin.com/5381759/rick-reillys-hornball-simile-propels-colt-mccoys-girlfriend-into-momentary-google-fame-update (ADS POTENTIALLY NSFW)
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Anyone associated with a celebrity becomes a celebrity themselves.
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I am officially defriending you then. I dont need this!
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I am officially defriending you then. I dont need this!
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The f isn’t crossed out!
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Its so tough to tell. I need glasses. Looking at a computer screen all day is making me go blind. That and looking at carp’s NSFW photos if you know what Im mean and Im reasonably certain you dont.
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She should just make all their sessions incomplete, kinda of like all his passes.
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“Umm…rong hole lol”
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No comment.
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This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps!
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I thought a Stranger happens when you sit on your hand…
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woa
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
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lol….just the conversation that will make a potential recruit feel welcome into the Cal community.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
Tebow may not make in the NFL, but blue chip talent or not, he is an outstanding college QB.
And it pains me to say this because I think he is a giant cocksucker.
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Funny how so many of those SEC greats don’t pan out. Darren McFadden, Glenn Dorsey, JaMarcus Russell, the list goes on. Of course, it’s not like they’re the only conference that produces busts with regularity, but it makes me pause a bit. Meanwhile, ACC players seem to do better in the pros than in college, though I have nothing but anecdotal evidence to back that up either.
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by yellow fever on Oct 16, 2009 7:14 AM PDT up reply actions
But you can’t judge how good a college player is by his success in the NFL. You have to judge them simply by how good they were in college; that is it.
Prime example: Joe Flacco. He couldn’t beat out Tyler Palko (yes, really) at QB at Pittsburgh. He transferred to Division 1-AA Delaware. So it’s safe to say he was not an amazing college QB. Yet, somehow in the NFL, he’s one of the top young QBs in the game (part of that is talent, part of that is coaching, and part of that is whom he is surrounded by).
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That could just mean that whoever the fuck Tyler Palko is, hes the next Brett Farve. The Niners need to find tis Tyler Palko!!!!!
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He once hurdled over famous cornerback/punt returner/rainmaker Pacman Jones!
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2 out of 3 of those players get a pass, because they play for the Raiders.
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That’s the first time pass and JaMarcus Russell have successfully been used in the same sentence.
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by Rishi on Oct 16, 2009 7:50 AM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
It was an attempted apostrophe. Clearly, I’m never trying an apostrophe ever again.
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I think that makes perfect sense...
The ACC has talent, but has some terrible coaching, and seems to be constantly underachieving. The SEC has the best coaching, best facilities, most money, etc. So they get more out of their players in college.
When it comes down to pure talent, there’s not a lot of difference, but if you’re looking at college production and comparing to pro production, the ACC will not look that great.
p.s. two of your examples played for the raiders, so they don’t count.
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Could just be that of all the college players who go on to the NFL, only a fractional percentage will actually succeed and Yellow Fever registers that as SEC players not living up to their hype more often because of his own biases.
In short: college football is college football, pro football is pro football. And never the twain shall meet.
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by AERose on Oct 16, 2009 1:05 PM PDT up reply actions 2 recs
I fully admit my own biases. It just seems to me to be that way. I could go ahead and do a breakdown, but you know. I’m lazy. The dregs of NFL rosters are filled with busts from all conferences, of course.
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by yellow fever on Oct 16, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
Hmm, perhaps the reason is that SEC teams are in general better from top to bottom. This leaves more room for error among its’ “star” players than the Pac 10 or Big East, where you have less of a safety net if you fail. So perhaps the individual stars in the SEC are less talented overall, but their teams are better…?
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 1:10 PM PDT up reply actions
Peter Fiutak, is that you?
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no….
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 2:04 PM PDT up reply actions
no…
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 3:35 PM PDT up reply actions
NatChamp Week next week. I feel like we shoulda won a NatChamp for Awesomeness and Cal shoud celebrate that:
Sporting a national crown seems to be a popular fashion accessory for California student-athletes these days. This fashion trend continued in 2008-09 as the Golden Bears captured a first-ever NCAA team title in women’s swimming and diving, an IRA varsity four championship in men’s crew, two relay victories in women’s swimming and a women’s NCAA tennis doubles title. An additional six other Cal stars brought home individual gold this past year in men’s swimming, women’s swimming, men’s gymnastics and men’s track & field to raise the total to 100 national crowns won by Bears in the decade of the 2000s.
Not bad for a University also known as one of the top academic institutions in the nation. In honoring these supreme achievements the Cal athletic department will be recognizing its 2008-09 national champions with its fourth annual National Championship Week celebration, slated for Oct. 19-24, 2009.
“In collegiate athletics, a national championship is the ultimate accomplishment and comes as a result of years of hard work, determination and perseverance,” said Director of Athletics Sandy Barbour. “Establishing a National Championship Week is our way of publicly recognizing these tremendous achievements and formally offering our congratulations to the student-athletes, coaches and staff that helped make a dream of a national championship become a reality.”
Last season, national championship dreams came true for coach Teri McKeever’s women’s swimming and diving squad with the help of individual NCAA champions Dana Vollmer (100 and 200 free) and Amanda Sims (100 fly), and members of the 400 and 800 free relays (Vollmer, Hannah Wilson, Liv Jensen, Erica Dagg, Sara Isakovic). The varsity four boat of Jovan Popovic, Benedict Tufnell, Jordan Sartor, Jarrod McClendon and coxswain Jack Zhou perpetuated the Bears’ long and storied history of excellence in rowing with the sports’ 45th IRA national champion crew since 1928. The women’s tennis doubles duo of sophomore Mari Andersson and freshman Jana Juricova continued Cal’s recent dominance in NCAA doubles play with the Bears’ fifth national doubles title since 1998.
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Swimming heads to Pacific Invitational:
BERKELEY – Cal fans will get their first opportunity to see the 2009-10 Golden Bears as the men’s basketball program will be hosting an open scrimmage on Tuesday, Oct. 27, from 5-6:30 p.m. at Haas Pavilion. Head coach Mike Montgomery’s squad will hold a scrimmage open to the public from 5-6 p.m. Following the scrimmage, fans will have an autograph session with the players and coaches until 6:30 p.m.
Fans will have a chance to win two basketballs signed by Montgomery, as well as two courtside seats to a select nonconference game.
The open scrimmage will include activities even the youngest fans will enjoy like an inflatable free throw contest inside Haas Pavilion. The Cal Spirit Teams will be involved with the Mic Men and Cal Dance Team leading the cheers.
Cal fans can purchase specially-priced ticket packs for the 2009-10 men’s basketball season before single-game tickets become available to the general public. Fans can choose between a 7-Game Flex Pack for $161, which allows you to pick three nonconference and four conference games of your choice, or the Cal Fan 4-Pack for $110, which includes UCLA, Stanford, Arizona and one nonconference game of your choice. Other 7-Game Flex Pack and Cal Fan 4-Pack benefits include flexibility and savings over single-ticket prices.
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Ok, I used the link for the swimming with the story for the bball. So, heres the link for the bball with the swimming story. I shouldnt open more than 1 tab at a time. Im tooo stupid.
This Week: The California men’s swimming team, featuring 2009 NCAA champions Nathan Adrian and Damir Dugonjic, will travel to the Pacific Invitational on Saturday, Oct. 17 to compete in one day of the two-day meet. Men’s teams competing at the Pacific Invite include Cal (Sat.), Stanford (Sat.), Air Force, BYU and Pacific. The Golden Bears have started the 2009-10 season off 2-0 in dual meets with a 156-139 victory over Hawaii, and a 143-107 win over Pacific last week at Spieker Aquatics Complex. Third-year Cal head swim coach David Durden has another talented squad, not only including juniors Adrian and Dugonjic, but six fellow 2009 All-Americans – senior Sean Mahoney, juniors Martti Aljand, Guy Barnea, Josh Daniels and Graeme Moore, and sophomore Nolan Koon.
Golden Bears Rack Up Wins Versus Hawaii and Pacific: Cal won 19 races last week. Against Hawaii, the Bears won eight of the meet’s 16 events and had seven different individual winners, including freshman Tom Shields in the 200 free (1:40.46) and freshman Andre Blyth in the 200 fly (1:48.60). Cal also captured the 200 medley relay (1:30.38, Mathias Gydesen, Dugonjic, Shields, Moore). Other individual winners were Barnea in the 100 back (49.63), Moore in the 50 free (20.34), sophomore Martin Liivamagi in the 200 IM (1:51.53), Koon in the 200 breast (2:05.12) and Dugonjic in the 100 breast (56.08).
Versus Pacific, Cal won the meet’s first 11 events before swimming exhibition for the final three races. Barnea captured two events, the 50 free (20.82) and the 200 back (1:50.67), and was a member of the Bears’ winning 200 medley relay (1:31.42, Barnea, Koon, Gydesen, Daniels). Shields joined Barnea as a double winner, placing first in the 200 fly (1:51.85) and the 500 free (4:39.41). Moore won the 200 free (1:43.27), freshman Austin Brown captured the 100 back (52.26), freshman Ben Hinshaw won the 1000 free (9:39.73), Koon placed first in the 100 breast (57.02), junior Alex Cushing won the 100 free (46.36) and junior Andrew Godbe captured the 200 breast (2:06.21).
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I’d like to highlight one key part:
The open scrimmage will include activities even the youngest fans will enjoy like an inflatable free throw contest inside Haas Pavilion. The Cal Spirit Teams will be involved with the Mic Men and Cal Dance Team leading the cheers.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
I know what you mean, inflatable free throw contest, I’m there!
by CaliforniaCMB on Oct 16, 2009 9:15 AM PDT up reply actions
Womens BBall gets some more TV Dates:
The California Golden Bears women’s basketball team added three more games to the 2009-10 television broadcast schedule with home games against Washington, UCLA, and Oregon State all to be shown on Comcast channels.
Comcast will br broadcasting the Thursday, Jan. 14 game against Washington on CSN+. The Feb. 6 game against UCLA will be shown on CSN Bay Area and the Feb. 18 game will be available on CSN California.
With the addition of these three games to the four games already slated to be carried by FSN/CSN Bay Area (Baylor on Nov. 22, at Stanford on Jan. 2, at home against Arizona State on Jan. 30, and at Washington on Feb. 14), the Bears will have at least seven televised games. There is a possibility that more late season games will be picked up by FSN/CSN Bay Area as wildcard broadcasting additions. Those decisions will be made later on during the season.
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Achilles has a pretty good joke over at Bruins Nation about the Cal bussing trip to LA. The absolute best best best best best BEST joke, though, is MexiBruin’s comment below. He’s joking about that, right?
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Supposing hypothetically that USC did pay players – which they don’t, of course – then why would a pay cut help the UC system budget, SC not being a public institution?
Stretching the point for chuckles, I know, but still.
RIP Good Joke at BN
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wow…is “MexiBruin” an PC screen name? I guess so.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
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Why would Pete Carroll be posting on Bruins Nation?
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Also, in what world is it politically incorrect to identify your ethnicity?
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Is that your preferred method of responding to my posts from now on?
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Nothing…I’m kind of just joking here. For one, I’m pretty sure if I called a person of Latino descent a “Mexi” they’d probably sock me.
let’s pick an appropriate ethnic carp screen name:
anglosaxoncarp
whiteycarp
carpyoassiswhitelol
dudeIneedtowearsunglassescarp
carpyourdescendentsprollymatedwithpeepsfromeverycountry
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"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Concerned Assets Relief Program
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I’m sure around the long, elegant conference table this joke might have gotten a chuckle.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
It got a ripping good laugh at the economic summit.
PS, notice the use of a preposition in my sentence.
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Hey Rish, hear about this Storch guy?
To me this appointment seems like some kind of trade or the return of a favor. I thought the Tabbi piece on Goldman was well researched but jumped to too many conclusions. However, this latest appointment is really making me wonder what Shapiro owes to Goldman.
Well, the way I would describe it is that if you thi—-
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What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 10:28 AM PDT up reply actions
Paris cops are rollin'
I can’t believe this.
I dream of getting in a high speed bike chase with a bike cop…only because I have a road bike that goes at least 27 mph. Those guys have mtn bike tires. Would they try and loop me from behind like they do with the cars? If I got in a high speed bike chase, couldn’t I just say “Hey, I didn’t hear a siren” and get off?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Those shoes are tear offs, like basketball pants.
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The more Miller pieces I read, the more I like him:
Do a search on Google images of “Jimmy Clausen” and then “Matt Barkley.” Who gets the unflattering, mocking photos? And who doesn’t?
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
actually…it’s closer than Miller thinks:
http://www.notredamesucks.org/farks.html
http://gridirongoddess.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/matt-barkley-with-cross.jpg
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
Boxer Found Pregnant
http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/16102009/58/boxer-found-pregnant-weigh.html
Female boxer Francia Elena Bravo had a big surprise at the 14-day advance weigh-in for her world title clash against Ana Maria Torres as she discovered she was pregnant.
This could have ended very poorly.
Monty’s class ranked # 15
http://www.ibabuzz.com/beartalk/2009/10/16/basketball-bears-2010-class-ranked-no-15/
This should make concordtom happy.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
This is actually important. Recruiting matters a hell of a lot more in basketball than in football. If you don’t have a top 20 class in basketball it really means you aren’t getting anyone who is going to do much. (Sure some guys maximize their talent, but Joe Shipps and Brian Wethers never equal a Jason Kidd or Leon Powe.)
by Tedfordisgod on Oct 16, 2009 4:16 PM PDT up reply actions
While I don’t disagree – the list is long of under-recruited players who turned out to be huge studs (Ryan Anderson, Michael Redd, Tracy McGrady, etc .etc)
Eh, this may sound like hindsight, but as someone who – well I wouldn’t call myself a clipper fan, but we went to a lot more clipper games than laker games growing up – at least 8-10 a year and who was interested in the prospects of the team – I watched some Olowokandi at UoP. He was all potential and 7’, not too much on actual production.
Agreed – It’s just that when I see ‘under-recruited’ I immediately think of Olowokandi because of the story about how he picked Pacific out of an alphabetical college directory or something.
The #1 greatest threat to America: BEARS
Tebow will be drafted by some team and be allowed to play some snaps because the franchise wants to draw in the stupid SEC viewers (and some of the religious nuts that idolize Tebow) so they can make more money. He won’t be a typical QB in the NFL.
In other words, Go Bears!
I think they’d make more money winning games…
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Don’t all football teams make oodles of money anyway because of the tv rights. It isn’t like the NBA or NHL where half the teams lose money.
I’m just pointing out how ridiculous royrules’ theory is.
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No they make most of their money through TV deals. Something that will get the oodles of southern idiots watching them is better for them
In other words, Go Bears!
I don’t think individual NFL teams have specific TV deals…
Your theory is still ridiculous. Even if what you said was true, drafting a QB solely for the purpose of attracting “southern idiots” wouldn’t work if said strategy didn’t lead to winning.
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Stop saying I’m wrong without an argument.
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I already made my argument below. Are you having trouble understanding it?
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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Are you ever going to listen to a single word I’ve ever said? Ever. Like period. Ever. All you and Rishi ever do is get in these giant slap fights over and over and over again on the most STUPIDEST of fucking arguments. And I’ve tried repeatedly to privately contact the both of you to please stop this. Because I didn’t want to make a big “to-do” about it. Also, I honestly didn’t even really think it was that big of a deal. But after seeing a lot of the private feedback on this issue, I realize I was mistaken.
We’ve even had to write up Community Guidelines, because of this. Of course, the pretense was that our Community needs Guidelines when the harsh reality is that it is mostly you two. There are a few other people that get into the slapfights from time to time, like Spazzy and Royrules22, but the constants here tend to be you and Rishi. Rishi and you.
CalumbusBear, this is the most serious I’ve been in a fairly long while. You’re welcome.
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by Yes We Cannon on Oct 16, 2009 10:20 AM PDT up reply actions 4 recs
Dude, I totally listened to you that one time. I don’t remember what it was about. But I’m pretty sure I listened to at least one word. Maybe even two!
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 10:21 AM PDT up reply actions
I’m confused — people are complaining that we’re arguing about football here?
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I hope people didn’t point me out in the feedback. Please let me know if I have to cut back on something. IMO I don’t think I did anything bad…
In other words, Go Bears!
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 12:53 PM PDT up reply actions
I leave for a week and things fall apart. God dammit guys. Get it the fuck together.
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I could take zoonews jr. I would just show him pictures of funny cats and then he would be distracted. Carp jr. would be harder.
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by rollonubears on Oct 17, 2009 10:04 AM PDT up reply actions
Actually, you’re wrong. In European football, for example, the big clubs often sign star players purely because it’ll make them more money – even when those players don’t help them win more games.
dboneisloose
I’m not saying it doesn’t happen — hell, it occurs in the NFL (see: Owens, Terrell); at the same time, drafting a player that wins games would bring in more money.
Besides, in the NFL, most of the money comes from licensing and junk, not from physical tickets sold.
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most of the money comes from licensing and junk
Do you realize how many of said idiots would buy Tebow dolls, underwears, wife-beats, penis-cutting tools, etc?
In other words, Go Bears!
Look, if a team drafts Tebow, it’s because they believe in his abilities, like his performance at the combine, think they can revolutionize football, heard his name throughout college and think he has to be good, or they’re Bill Belichik.
No one would draft Tim Tebow to attract “southern idiots”. That makes no sense.
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Uh, why doesn’t it make sense (apart from the “southern idiots” part)? Again, there’s no reason to believe that winning is more likely to draw fans than star players are.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 10:08 AM PDT up reply actions
Uh, why doesn’t it make sense (apart from the "southern idiots" part)? Again, there’s no reason to believe that winning is more likely to draw fans than star players are.
Detroit Lions, Oakland Raiders
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Congratulations, you named two football teams. What’s your point?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 10:30 AM PDT up reply actions
Let me just point out right now that, in our arguments, I’m not the one providing the hostility.
That said, two teams with the worst records over the past several years, can’t sell tickets, and are constantly blacked out. Just saying.
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It’s not hostility. Why would I be hostile towards you? This is just how I talk.
Regarding blackouts, the Bengals needed an extension to avoid a blackout on their last game (despite being 4-1 and one play from 5-0). Tampa Bay has consistently sold out their games for over a decade. The correlation really isn’t as strong as you think it is.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 10:38 AM PDT up reply actions
I blame Ohio Bear. And CALumbus Bear. Can we assess costs against them?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 10:41 AM PDT up reply actions
WEould Calumbus Bear really assess costs against himself???
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Stranger things have happened.
Well, I take that back. I really can’t think of any.
Anyhoo, just blame Ohio. That’s a good default position to take. Though to be fair, I question whether Cincinnati considers itself to be part of Ohio.
Praise be to Tedford!
Rank Cincinnati, Cleveland and Cal-er, Columbus, in terms of soul-destroying-ness. Go!
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by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
Ignorance!
1a Cleveland (at least they’re not Detroit)
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2 Cinci
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3 Cal-er, Columbus
The spaces between 1 and 2 are filled with Akron, Toledo, and a few others.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 1:11 PM PDT up reply actions
No argument there. Brutal
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 1:24 PM PDT up reply actions
1. Cleveland
(huge gap)
T2. Cincinnati and Columbus.
If you expand to other so-called major Ohio cities, the ranking becomes more like:
1. Cleveland
2. Youngstown
(huge gap)
3. Toledo
4. Akron
5. Dayton
(another gap)
T6. Cincinnati and Columbus
Praise be to Tedford!
Ignorance! I went to Cal, therefore I make EXCELLENT life decisions.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 2:19 PM PDT up reply actions
Damn. I got overruled, and I think I’ll have to sustain it.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
What makes Cleveland so amazing? Or is it just that the rest of Ohio is so horrific?
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It is amazing in soul-destroying-ness. Pay attention.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 8:50 PM PDT up reply actions
I would, but I haven’t done anything Twistian enough to compel sanctions.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
To answer your question: no you may not. It is SO ordered.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 12:55 PM PDT up reply actions
I may be willing to reconsider.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 1:12 PM PDT up reply actions
On a more serious note…if one wanted to educate oneself on scotch, where would one begin (drinking)?
dboneisloose
My problem so far has been that the complexity of scotch makes it hard to know what to look for. If I’m drinking gin, for example, I’m familiar with the standard gins, so it’s easy to notice small differences from one to another. But it seems like scotch doesn’t really have any benchmarks that would allow for comparisons.
dboneisloose
While scotch is undeniably complex, there are some basics that can steer you in one way or another. I would say smoke, oak, and spice are the three basic things that can move you one way or another. I’ve heard a million other tastes people find, but those seem to be the basics. The key really is to try as many as you can. When you go to a really good bar with a great scotch selection, don’t be afraid to ask to try a sip.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Shoot they don’t even offer Laphroaig 18 in Ohio. I had to pull strings to get 15 delivered.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 1:25 PM PDT up reply actions
Post script: just had some Laphroaig 15. Yum scotchy scotch scotch scotchy scotch. I believe it has made me smarter and more witty.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 8:53 PM PDT up reply actions
Avoid Glenfiddich. Glenkinchie is a lowland single malt from near Edinburgh that’s little easier to start with than some of the more robust Highland single malts. Your basic Macallan. I seem to remember that Balvenie is a decent place to start as well.
Also avoid Glenlivet. That and Glenfiddich are boring. Macallan 12 is a great place to start, and you can really taste the sherry (they mature the scotch in sherry casks). Balvenie is also excellent, particularly their 15. Oban is very approachable and almost sweet. The Islay scotches (Laphroaig, Adberg, Caol Isla, Laguvulin, I’m sure I butchered the spellings) are very peaty/smoky and seaweedy. I love them but others find them phrenolic. I strongly suggest trying several at the same time so you can compare and contrast, kind of like a wine tasting.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 1:29 PM PDT up reply actions
I tried Springbank for the first time a few weeks ago, that was rather good. Not life-changing, but decent, and I’d never had a Campbelltown single malt before… but then I’m not an expert.
There just might be some scotchy scotch scotch in my future. Drink o’clock starts earlier in Ohio!
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 2:21 PM PDT up reply actions
My LSAT results come out in the next couple of hours…I’m probably going to be drinking either in celebration or in sorrow.
dboneisloose
You’ll be sad now if you do poorly. And you’ll be sad later if you do well. Either way, I encourage you to enjoy some kwality scotch.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 2:25 PM PDT up reply actions
My survey results (sample size: CALumbus Bear) show that lawyers drink more scotch. So I think I will be ok with it.
dboneisloose
Isn’t the sterotype that lawyers are overpaid, alcoholics (not beer but hard alcohol), workaholics and suffer twice as many divorces than the rest.
Of course Twist disproves everything.
In other words, Go Bears!
Twist is overpaid by virtue of being Twist…I think he’s ok on the other three.
And yes, that is the stereotype. I can’t wait!
dboneisloose
It ain’t 100, so it ain’t perfect
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 2:46 PM PDT up reply actions
Well, maybe it is perfect for culinary school
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 2:47 PM PDT up reply actions
When did you take the LSAT? My friend’s sisters took the LSAT like a month ago. The results come out that quickly?
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So I take it none of you are fans of blended scotch? I had a friend who used to drink Johnny Walker so I’ve had a fair amount of that, but I get the impression that real Scotch aficionados look down on it…
dboneisloose
Blends lack character, kind of like Glenfiddich. They are pretty boring. But the one I do have is Johnny Walker Blue, b/c that is damn smooth.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 2:23 PM PDT up reply actions
Scotland.
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by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 1:23 PM PDT up reply actions
The easiest gateway scotch is Glenlivet 12. It’s solid, affordable, and a little easier on the pallette than some of the older and more expensive stuff.
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The problem there is you’ll try it and say “WTF is the big deal, this is boring”. So don’t stop there.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 2:22 PM PDT up reply actions
I suppose I am! And quickly! Life is short.
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by CALumbus Bear on Oct 16, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
Still, teams really don’t make that much more money off of individual players. The vast majority of money that teams make is through the television contracts that are split evenly, though things like individual ticket sales and luxury boxes go straight to individual teams. The construction of a team’s home stadium and the number of boxes it has is far more important to a team’s revenue than individual players. To the extent that a single player can move ticket sales and get a stadium built, yeah, he would help. But there are no such things as individual TV deals (aside from maybe local coach’s TV shows and the like) and merchandise revenue is basically a rounding error.
Proud to hold season tickets to the only NBA team soon to be owned by a Russian oligarch.
by yellow fever on Oct 16, 2009 10:42 AM PDT up reply actions
Wait, Samuel L. Jackson is a Cal fan? You’re remarkably Indian.
by Yes We Cannon on Oct 16, 2009 10:46 AM PDT up reply actions
Winning teams get higher revenues. Will get you numbers in a bit.
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So it actually turns out that, for the most part, it’s based on the size of the market and the city and less on winning (though winning is still more important to revenue than attracting “southern idiots”).
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
Very true. For example, the Bills sell out every game. They sell a ton of merchandise. Winning wouldn’t change that. What hurts Buffalo is their stadium and the fact that they keep their ticket prices so low.
Fact is, the NFL blackout rule has a lot to do with negating the effect of winning and losing. In the extreme, consistent atrocious football can have an effect on the bottom line. But, for the most part it doesn’t matter.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
Yes, and fans are more likely to buy gear for a star player than for a winning team.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 10:09 AM PDT up reply actions
actually UEFA got installed a new rule to prevent russian billionaires from buying titles and killing competition. All uefa teams have to be profitable by 2010 or something.
You mean, ANOTHER Russian billionaire buying a title and killing competition?
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 11:09 AM PDT up reply actions
All hail Mikhail Prokohorov, savior of the Brooklyn Nets!
Proud to hold season tickets to the only NBA team soon to be owned by a Russian oligarch.
by yellow fever on Oct 16, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions
I hope that the Vikings draft Teboo so that I can focus all my hate into one easy-to-hate localized region.
President Emperor Warlord Of The Sun!
www.CaliforniaGoldenBlogs.com
Is Minnesota easy to hate? I always had a special place in my heart for Minnesotans, living all the way up north, cold and freezing, friendly as can be, yet not hickish in anyway.
Awesome quiz
Who said it: NFL Head Coach or Evil Dictator?
I got 9/12. Missed 7, 10, and 11. Most of them are pretty obvious, though.
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I got 12 out of 12…like you said, they’re pretty obvious, the words they use give the answers away.
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 10:57 AM PDT up reply actions
Yeah, I was reaching on a couple just because I thought they sounded more hilarious that way. It would have been more exciting to know that Buddy Ryan had indeed said he was the most powerful man in the world.
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by yellow fever on Oct 16, 2009 11:00 AM PDT up reply actions
Rishi or Kade... quiz time!
Who said it?!?
The Rhino (My favorite strip club in the country and I will never forget how I pulled 2 girls out of there ((They were both KA 9’s who were dating eachother and I told them, "I love lesbians, come join me tonight?" an they thought that was the cutest thing) several years ago, then took them to Pure for a couple bottles, then had an amazing threesome back in my room at The Venetian, and when I woke up, they had left a note saying, "Thanks for a great time". (That was so hot because I felt so used, yet so happy. Such a Pro Move).
Goin' balls deep with Cal since 1972!
by Fire Starkey on Oct 16, 2009 11:24 AM PDT up reply actions
False
I do not go to strip clubs.
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
I’m going to need to see pics to confirm this.
"We lose to Stanford in many sports, but if you want to make a Cal team quit, bring a weapon."
--Coach Clark
You want a picture of me not in a strip club?
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
You’re friends with me on fb.
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
This is true. But carp isn’t!
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 12:33 PM PDT up reply actions
Actually, all three of you are…
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
Really?
Time to check…
Oh you’re right! Now I need to find HolmoePhobe and stalk him…. actually scratch that. I’m not going to sit around browsing through your 700 friends looking for someone that looks like him
In other words, Go Bears!
You’re not friends with me. I take this very personally. And to think, I even gave you an ASCII heart!
It's spelled "S-H-U-F-E-L-T-H-I-M-S-E-L-F"
Question for Royrules
Hey RR,
Do you have access to the central bug database for Windows 7?
If I had to guess, I’d say you’re in Server… but do you know anyone that works in Client? Do all of you have at least enough access to at least look something up in the bug database?
my bug:
I’m not sure if it’s my SATA controller or Windows 7×64 but when I format a new drive (or an old one), the format fails and the drive is locked. No error code. The drive is then unreadable in both 32bit and 64big systems. I’m using MBR and not GPT and formatting NTFS. The drive spins and I can see it in Disk Management, but I just can’t access it.
It’s not a big deal, but I’ve bricked two drive thus far and can’t add any new drives to my system until I find out if this is the OS or my SATA controller or something else. BTW: My current mobo is less than a year old and i’m running build 7127 x64.
I’m pretty sure this isn’t up your alley, but if you can give me some help it would be greatly appreciated.
Hey. Unfortunately although I am in the Windows division I do not have access to the Win7 source or bug db.
I can ask internally and see if anyone might have any answers but I have to know what build 7127 is. Is it RC? If it you got it off a torrent, well I can’t pull the “my friend has build 7127 and had this question….” thing… Also can you give me as much detailed info as you can (via email is fine)?
In other words, Go Bears!
Thanks. Just thought I’d throw that out there. I’m actually scared of my system now because I have no idea when another drive will go. I’ve been dreading the thought putting in a new mobo because it’s such a pain in the ass, but I’ve kinda run out of options.
7127 is a legit beta build of Ultimate that you guys sent me as a test copy… and yes I have bit locker turned off. I don’t know your email so I’ll just have Twist forward my email to you and then we can get our geek freak on. No matter what, thanks man. I appreciate it.
Also
It sounds as if he bought bottles for strippers in exchange for sex…
I’m very confused — how is this “baller”? He hired prostitutes.
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
When he says “pro move” he doesn’t mean himself, he means the ladies were pros… I think you got his MO just right: bottles for strippers=sex.
Why not just be more efficient and pay the cash straight up?
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
Because then he couldn’t brag about it in a blog. And if that blog makes some money, he can buy more bottles!
And that, children, is the Circle of Life.
Wait…buying them drinks and then having sex with them makes them prostitutes? Aren’t we painting with a slightly wide brush here?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 12:02 PM PDT up reply actions
No no no no, not at all. If that were the case, plenty of women at clubs would be “prostitues”.
It’s just that a lot of strippers in Las Vegas ARE prostitutes… so buying them bottle service for sex is the same as paying them money for sex, except with difficult steps in the process.
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
A prostitute is like any other woman, they all trade something for sex, and they do it well!
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
by oskisunbear on Oct 16, 2009 12:13 PM PDT up reply actions
I mean, having sex with a prostitue for money isn’t really something to brag about.
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
What if you do it “Kade style”?
dboneisloose
by HolmoePhobe on Oct 16, 2009 12:34 PM PDT up reply actions
11 out of 12...
And gives a crap what Don Shula has to say anyways…
I hear El Paso is beautiful in December....
by CruzinBears on Oct 16, 2009 11:39 AM PDT up reply actions
12 of 12!!!
I am a NERD!
My heart skips a beat every time I hear the band strike up 'Our Sturdy Golden Bear'.
by oskisunbear on Oct 16, 2009 12:07 PM PDT up reply actions
My Tebow Thoughts....
….
who cares. he’ll get drafted, the team will want him to play TE or something, he’ll decline, and they’ll pay him off to go away.
Go Bears Go
well...but detroit or the raiders will pay a hefty signing bonus....
knowing full well it won’t work out.
Go Bears Go
by Rocksanddirt on Oct 16, 2009 2:14 PM PDT up reply actions
Marshawn Lynch Can't Swim
Or, at least he lost a race to Buffalo Bills DT Kyle Williams.
It'll be just you, me, and Peter Nincompoop.
His dreads slowed him down on the flip turn...
But seriously though, the Bills might want to consider switching to swimming… They might win a bit more…
I hear El Paso is beautiful in December....
Mel Kiper is an asshole
Seriously, that dude gets paid to do nothing a trained monkey couldn’t do better. Fuck him and his halfassed analysis.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
I was responding to the Kiper quote in the original post and the fact that he’s labeled as an expert without actually having an area of expertise.
"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.
It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0
But he has fantastic hair.
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 16, 2009 2:17 PM PDT up reply actions
Drink o'Clock!!
Oh wait, it’s Diwali. No drinking
Happy Diwali (tomorrow) to all the fellows desis here.
And even the non-desis, should they be inclined.
Act all day, dance all night. Let's get it poppin'... I'm in Bombay, trick!
No holiday is worth skipping booze for.
Goin' balls deep with Cal since 1972!
by Fire Starkey on Oct 16, 2009 2:12 PM PDT up reply actions
Oh shit it’s tomorrow? Oh well it’s not like I did anything for the Diwali the past few years. If I was with my parents I’d have probably been taken to a temple with them… actually I don’t even know if that would’ve happened.
All I know about Diwali is that it was awesome when I was living in India. In the days leading up Diwali everyone gave each other as gifts boxes of “sweets” (basically desserts) and boxes of fireworks. Not as awesome as the 4th of July fireworks but as a <10yr old kid having about 10-15 boxes of fireworks that you can play around with yourself (under the supervision of my parents of course) was fucking awesome. It’s too bad my brother never got to experience the amazingness of that.
In other words, Go Bears!
What are you dressing up as?
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 2:24 PM PDT up reply actions
You have to dress up!?
How the hell does a non-Indian know more about Indian stuff than I do!?
In other words, Go Bears!
Yeah, you toads have to dress up as Ravan and reenact the battle of Thiruvananthapuram. And the winner wins a bottle of scotch.
dboneisloose
I’m impressed you actually spelled out Thiruvananthapuram and didn’t just say Trivandrum
In other words, Go Bears!
Well, I did that because it’s a funnier name. I think the whole changing Anglicized names back to the original versions is stupid. I still say Bombay all the time.
dboneisloose
Same
Although for me the original (malayalam) names sound more right so I guess it depends.
The one I hate the most is them changing Bangalore to Bengaluru.
In other words, Go Bears!
OK, with this comment, this DBD just went from Indian-y to OMG WHERE DID ALL THESE INDIANS COME FROM AND WHY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THIRUVANANTHAPURAM?
My looney bun makes fine Benny Lava.
What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas. What happens in California makes the world go round.
by Spazzy Mcgee on Oct 16, 2009 11:19 PM PDT up reply actions
To the programming/tech/SQL-nerd people here
The Daily WTF is a website where they post code or stuff from the IT world that make you go WTF.
Nothing however beats this:
In other words, Go Bears!
Gambling lines; thoughts degenerates?
Cal -3.5 at UCLA
Furd +4 at Arizona
Washington +6.5 at ASU
USC -9.5 at Notre Dame
Oklahoma +3 vs Texas
Missouri +7 at Oklahoma St.
Ohio State -13.5 at Purdue
Miami (FL) -14 at UCF
Arkansas +24.5 at Florida
Virginia Tech -3 at Georgia Tech
Iowa +2.5 at Wisconsin
Texas Tech +10.5 at Nebraska
What are your picks guys?
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by Avinash Kunnath on Oct 16, 2009 3:33 PM PDT reply actions
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