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Golden Nuggets: Press Conference Tuesday

As usual, today was the Cal football media luncheon.  Tedford's comments were more informative and insightful than they normally are.  He touched on a lot of areas the fans and press have been talking about.  Here are some highlights:

Tedford:

On the UCLA defense, especially its front, and the challenge it presents
"It's another great defense. One of the best players in the conference in [DB Sheldon] Price - he's really a special player. But it's not just him. They have very good linebackers - the Bosworth brothers [DE Korey and LB Kyle] play very had and very well. Akeem Ayers is a great, very athletic linebacker. They're a really good defense. [Alterraun] Verner is a great corner. Again, they're one of the top defenses in the conference and they're going to make their plays. I think Oregon scored one offensive touchdown last week, so they're a good defense and we're going to have to execute, we're going to have to be patient, we're going to have to make sure we protect the football and not turn the football over. Again, very good defense."

On WR Verran Tucker's medical problems

"Verran has a calf issue, a pretty deep bruise. We're going to have to see how he responds to treatment. Verran is day to day."

On the status of WR Nyan Boateng
"Nyan practiced on Sunday and we're going to increase his participation as the week goes on, but he ran some routes on there and he ran a couple of one-on-ones, and today we'll get him going a little bit more. As of right now, it looks like he may be ready to play unless he has a setback."

On P Bryan Anger, who is currently ranked eighth in the Pac-10 in punting
"He hasn't been as consistent as we would like. We all know that he has great potential. It was real windy at Oregon and .. he kind of shanked one that day. And then one against USC, he punted right down the middle of the field, low, that got returned on us. Bryan will keep working at it and get back to the consistency that we need him to play with. He's healthy." 

On whether the bye week came at a good time
"I think it was [a good time]. Time kind of heals some of the wounds and I think it gave us a little bit of time to go back and practice and get our thoughts together and get ourselves back together again before just jumping back into another game preparation-type things. It goes both ways. Sometime you jump into preparation, it forces you to forget about the last game, but I think last week worked really well for us, that we were able to have three really good, hard practices and put a little bit of space between last week's game and get ready for this one."

After the jump we have Riley's quotes from the press conference, lots of stories on the Cal-UCLA matchup, and a handful of other stories. Plus Justin Forsett being awesome. Yes, AWESOME.

Star-divide

Riley

On the team's demeanor coming out of its bye week 

"Optimistic, [ready to] go out there and win a game. Bye week was the most physical bye week I've ever been a part of. We usually have a Thursday where the younger kids get a scrimmage, but this [past] week we practiced against the defense again. Everybody was a little banged up but it was good for us. Going live against the defense, we did a lot of situations, going red zone drills because the last two weeks we haven't been working down there. But just getting ready for the game - we're ready."

On whether he feels they accomplished the things they wanted during the bye week
"Yeah, for sure. Did a lot of throwing. We have more individual time with the receivers and we're going to continue to do that."

On efforts to improve some routes
"Every day we worked on a few routes that are staple routes. We can call them up anytime, we should be able to get a completion on them. The way of route-running and how we were reading it quicker and throwing the ball better on each route was great to see, and it continued even on Sunday's practice. We ran a few of them and it was just real easy and clear." 

On specific things he worked on during the bye week

"I threw after every day of practice. The balls I am missing, I'm just putting them a little high, but every one is close, I'm just sailing them a little bit. Through that, just becoming more accurate and have receivers make more plays. Worked on it Friday as well during the day off, just putting it in a better spot. Threw the ball well last week and threw the ball well on Sunday."

On what may have caused high throws
"When the pressure is coming and I'd step up in the pocket, I'd release my hand up and it'd come out, just a little too quick." 

And now, your moment in Justin Forsett awesomeness, taken from Sunday's 41-0 smashing by the Seahawks of hapless Jacksonville:

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via cdn0.sbnation.com

How about just the hit?

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via cdn3.sbnation.com

Field Gulls was succinct in their description of the play.

It kind of looks like Brian Russell wants to give his old teammate a big bear hug but Justin's not going to have it. 

Fun fact: Justin Forsett's NFL.com page lists him at 5'8", 194 lbs.

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I think in Tedford’s first quote he meant Brian Price, not Sheldon Price.

Go Bruins!

by Harsha on Oct 13, 2009 4:57 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn those Bruins and all their Prices and Princes!!!!

I hear El Paso is beautiful in December....

by CruzinBears on Oct 13, 2009 5:02 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I remember when Jax had hap. It’s sad that they’ve lost all their hap. I hope they find it soon.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2009 5:07 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Thanks Berkelium 97...

 …for putting this all together so we can access it in one place – great quotes from Boateng, Riley & Tedford. We’ll see Saturday if this is just talk or if the necessary adjustments have been put in place.

by SierraBear on Oct 13, 2009 5:11 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

What a depressing Golden Nuggets. Just what I didn’t need on such a dreary day. How did things get so bad, so fast for this team? It seems like less than a month ago we were #6 in the nation. I just don’t understand how you can go two games without a TD. I think the reality of this season is finally starting to sink in, and I can barely stomach what I see. I wish I felt as optimistic as Riley, but I am glad he feels that way. I just know that if Cal loses against UCLA, the people over at Bear Insider are going to go into full revolutionary mode. It will not be pretty. I pray to a God that I sometimes have trouble believing in that we do not lose…

GO BEARS!

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by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 5:39 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Don’t you see Forsett taking out a safety? How can that not make you smile?

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by Avinash on Oct 13, 2009 5:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Update on Cal/Wazzu not being on TV

From Okanes

Just checked into whether Cal still tried to get the Washington State game televised after it was passed on by the networks that have a contract with the Pac-10. Apparently, Cal couldn’t find a good time to play the game that didn’t fall into the exclusive window held by the networks. Cal isn’t allowed to televise the game during some other times of the day when other Pac-10 games are being televised. The only time Cal could have played the game and still have it be televised would have been at night, and the cost of bringing in lights didn’t make it feasible even with the revenue the television broadcast would have yielded.

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by Avinash on Oct 13, 2009 5:49 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

“bringing in” lights? What is this situation about? We can’t be in dire straits financially…

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by Maisbikkja on Oct 13, 2009 8:36 PM PDT via mobile up reply actions   0 recs

We can’t be in dire straits financially…

Uhhhhhhh.

by Yes We Cannon on Oct 13, 2009 9:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The proper response is lol

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by rollonubears on Oct 14, 2009 5:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like riley’s still throwing his passes too high, even in practice. i fear this does not bode well for saturday.

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by ch0ster on Oct 13, 2009 6:00 PM PDT reply actions   0 recs

Is anyone going to have a serious discussion around here about why all of our post Rodgers QB’s are so terrible? Saying that we have had however many offensive coordinators in x amount of years just doesn’t cut it. The constant in all of that was Tedford, and he is supposed to be the QB guru. I just want to know wtf is going on in regards to this issue…

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

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by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 6:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Longshore 2006 was highly respectable.

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by Avinash on Oct 13, 2009 6:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

while that is true, one “good” year of QB play out of the many during the post-rodgers era is not something in which to take pride.

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by ch0ster on Oct 13, 2009 6:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ayoob is a mulligan, injuries hamper our assessment of Longshore, and we need to see how Riley finishes this season and perhaps next. But I’m starting to have the same questions as Seth.

Quite frankly, Tedford’s record as a QB developer at Cal is mixed at best. He only had one year with Boller, and while Tedford arguably saved the kid’s career, it’s still just one year with an uber-talented guy someone else recruited. Tedford’s biggest success is Rodgers, clearly, but he only had two years with him, and the recruiting process was unusual if not a fluke. As for the rest, you’ve got Robertson, Levy, and Reed—not exactly sterling.

There are several blue-chip QBs now in the pipeline, so only time will tell. But let’s assume for the sake of argument that what we’ve seen so far from Riley is it, and that Mansion, Sweeney, Bridgford, Hinder, will be no better. The question would then become not Is Tedford a QB guru, but WHY NOT? Poor recruiting? Poor coaching, mechanically and/or psychologically? Poor design of the passing game? Poor complementary personnel in the receiving corps and/or the line?

Again, it’s still premature to ask these questions, but the more our memory of Aaron Rodgers fades in the distance, the more we’ll want to ask these questions in the future.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Oct 13, 2009 6:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Robertson was a hold-over from the Holmoe area, and I think he pretty much maximized his potential (as well as had his career overshadowed by Rodger). Levy was from Tedford’s take-whatever-we-can-get first recruiting class. It’s pretty obvious that Tedford missed with Kyle Reed, though.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 13, 2009 7:13 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t know if brock merited his 4* ranking out of high school, but it’s also troubling to me that he hasn’t been able to create any separation from sweeney or show much visible progress, while you see freshman qbs like forcier and barkley go out there and hit the ground running.

granted, those two qbs were much more highly touted, but it just makes you wonder how they develop so much more quickly (or seemingly so) than cal qbs of recent past.

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by ch0ster on Oct 13, 2009 7:40 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

i don’t know if brock merited his 4* ranking out of high school, but it’s also troubling to me that he hasn’t been able to create any separation from sweeney or show much visible progress, while you see freshman qbs like forcier and barkley go out there and hit the ground running.

Or, you could look at Sweeney as way better than everyone thought.

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by tedfordfan on Oct 14, 2009 11:14 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

However heralded Mansion was or wasn’t (and I recall he was hard to judge because he dominated a weak league full of small private schools), he wasn’t nearly as lauded coming out of high school as guys like Barkley, Forcier, or Clausen.

So, basically, you gotta Go Bears!

by ragnarok on Oct 14, 2009 11:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tedford’s biggest success is Rodgers, clearly, but he only had two years with him, and the recruiting process was unusual if not a fluke.

Will someone please explain to me what this has to do with anything? The bottom line is Tedford saw quarterback, recruited quarterback, and helped develop quarterback into a cerebral cold blooded sharpshooter. What does it have to do with anything that Tedford wasn’t looking for Rodgers when he found him?

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It was fantastic."
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by AERose on Oct 13, 2009 7:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For real. If the successes are considered flukes, then of course Tedford is left holding a bag of failure. Using numbers to back an argument loses credibility if we cherry-pick only the ones we like.

by sec119 on Oct 13, 2009 8:05 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I’m not trying to dismiss the success of Aaron Rodgers, and I want to re-emphasize that I think the jury is very much still out on Tedford’s long-term track record of developing quarterbacks. I’m just disturbed that Rodgers is beginning to appear more the exception than the rule.

And that does include the recruiting process. For several years now, Cal and Tedford have been on the short list of schools virtually guaranteed to claim one of the Elite 11 high-school quarterbacks. And it is striking that none of these guys has really panned out for the Bears—at least not yet. Longshore and Riley have both had their moments, but the biggest success came from a JC transfer who was so far under the radar that the coach who nabbed did so almost accidentally. Clearly, Tedford deserves all the credit in the world for recognizing Rodgers’ unheralded potential and then guiding its rapid development in Berkeley. I don’t mean to dismiss that. But can he do the same with Elite 11 guys?

All of this makes me wonder if Beau Sweeney, who also was somewhat unheralded, might wind up being the next guy that Tedford can really connect with. While Elite 11 guys thrive at Carroll’s USC, maybe Tedford’s Cal is better suited for the diamonds in the rough?

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Oct 14, 2009 9:46 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe the fact that finding and developing good QB’s is hard, and more often than not you’re going to miss on one than hit on one? Seriously, how many programs just go from one great QB to the next without some misses in between? You have to be realistic if you’re going to analyze something like this, not every QB is going to turn out good. Longshore was good before injuries. Rodgers was awesome. Ayoob was just flat out awful, and I suspect he had some shoulder injury problems during his reign (which explains why he had no arm strength whatsoever, which was the opposite of his recruiting profile). Riley has been ok, maybe average is a good way to call his tenure so far? Some ups and downs for sure. That’s not a bad track record for a coach.

by Missing Barry on Oct 13, 2009 8:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm...

I am pleased we are finally asking the tough questions and formulating reasonable opinions. This whole topic could easily be assigned to one of the many posts Avi has been pumping out lately. The fact remains that all of the recent QB’s have not (in their finality) panned out. Ayoob, Longshore, and thus far Riley, have all been colossal disappointments, showing very little promise. Sure there were flashes here and there. A great game over there, a stuning TD pass here. As a whole, however, I firmly and unequivocally believe the QB has been the weak spot of this team since 2005.

Take California Pete for example. (sorry for putting you on the spot, Pete) He was an ardent Ayoob supporter, as well as Longshore. The mere fact that he is finally questioning some of this leads me to believe I am not completely off base here. We really need to examine the pattern here and its ultimate implications on this program. We have not had even a remotely dependable and reliable QB since 2004. This is a fact which cannot be ignored. A fact which will continue to haunt this program until it is addressed. Longshore 2006 had more to do with the offensive line, running game and host of other talented players. Even then you could argue it was nothing particularly special. Co Pac 10 champs is great, but many people are wishing to see this stupid thing called the Rose Bowl before they……………

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by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 9:22 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Longshore 2006 had more to do with the offensive line, running game and host of other talented players.

Rodgers 2004 had exactly the same formula—a great offensive line, the most productive rushing season of all time, and talented receivers who might’ve been NFL bound if not for injuries. Think Aaron would’ve been as successful as he was without all of that?

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by Avinash on Oct 13, 2009 10:07 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Was in the process of writing exactly this but was struggling with the wording. Also:

For real. If the successes are considered flukes, then of course Tedford is left holding a bag of failure. Using numbers to back an argument loses credibility if we cherry-pick only the ones we like.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Oct 13, 2009 10:09 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

We got it already, Tedford did great with Boller and Rodgers. What year is it? When did those successes occur? When was that? I agree Tedford has done great things here, but that does nothing to excuse the last two and current starting QBs. Nothing. Perhaps if we had a time machine it would work out. Alas, we have yet to invent one. Perhaps the folks up at the lab can? Am I missing something here?

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Vince Lombardi

by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 10:23 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, you are missing something here. Reason and calm.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 13, 2009 10:34 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dammit, I just need to know why we can’t get a QB? I am trying to be reasonable and calm, but I am just tired and frustrated. When you go back to back games without a TD you start to reevaluate the sittuation. I am not intentionally trying to rabblerouse, I just want solutions to this sittuation. This is a serious issue that needs to be addressed and ultimately resolved. All the bs sugar coating is getting old.

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

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by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 10:43 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

The way I see it, Seth, Cal has had pretty serviceable QBs in 2002, (maybe even 2003), 2004, 2006, and 2007 (until injury). That’s not bad. Cal has only really lacked serviceable QB play in 2005, and 2008. I think we still need to wait a few more games to decide whether 2009 will have serviceable QBing. So in other words, Cal has only suffered from two years of truly lacking serviceable QBing. Two years! That’s it. That’s not bad for eight years total.

I think you’re overreacting a bit. I know we all want Rodgers year after year, but the reasonableness of those expectations are highly questionable. Furthermore, I do think we’ve just had a few years of QBing (2007 and 2008) derailed by injuries.

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by HydroTech on Oct 13, 2009 10:53 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Alright, well if that was serviceable QB’ing we have a difference of opinion. In any event, it is good to see you. Your logic always has a calming effect. I just hope we beat UCLA. My God, if we do not things will be bad all over the place…

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

Vince Lombardi

by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 11:31 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

For a guy who is (was?) widely touted as a QB guru, and consistently attracts blue-chip recruits at the position, is “serviceable” good enough?

To keep me generally happy as a fan and to give Cal a shot at winning a conference championship, probably yes. But I think where Seth is coming from—and increasingly me as well—is we expect something more than “serviceable” based on Tedford’s reputation. No, I don’t expect every QB to be a Heisman candidate, but I do expect Cal’s quarterbacks to be, over the long run, consistently better than average.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Oct 14, 2009 10:06 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is a serious issue that needs to be addressed and ultimately resolved.

Unless it isn’t.

College football teams are subject to variance, positive and negative. Shit happens. Sometimes that’s all it is.

Is that necessarily the case here? I don’t know. But I haven’t seen a substantive argument otherwise. (Aside from turnover on the offensive staff and injuries, those definitely play a part.)

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by AERose on Oct 13, 2009 10:54 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

This seems like a great fanost topic. You should write it up.

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by TwistNHook on Oct 14, 2009 8:09 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Definitely

Look at the first 5 games of all Cal’s QBs since Tedford got here? Is that essentially what you had in mind?

by Nashville on Oct 14, 2009 9:31 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd, great post

Definitely worth something in a fanpost. However, Longshore’s QB ratings don’t look right at all. Did you plug in college formulas for Riley and NFL ones for Longshore?

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by Avinash on Oct 14, 2009 8:41 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope

Just went on ESPN. I couldn’t believe how low they were either.

Here’s the webpage: LINK

Also, for your edification, here is NL 2006 through 5 games. He’s actually better than in 2007. I’m not sure exactly why that would be. Less respect for Justin Forsett maybe?

by Nashville on Oct 14, 2009 9:27 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Those passer ratings can’t be right. Try plugging the numbers into here.

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by Avinash on Oct 14, 2009 3:12 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

I’m getting something drastically different. Thoughts on why that would be?

Was there a modification to the formula between 2006/2007 or 2007/2008?

by Nashville on Oct 14, 2009 4:38 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt it, I think ESPN made a mistake…

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by Avinash on Oct 14, 2009 7:21 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh, I wonder what forced Longshore’s YPA numbers down in the 2007’s first five.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Oct 14, 2009 4:27 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see how you can say Tedford did great with Boller but not with Longshore. Longshore was fine in 2006. He was great in pre-injury 2007. Then things changed. I mean, for the sake of accuracy, I think we have to acknowledge that Longshore got injured (ankle and pectoral). To merely hold Longshore against Tedford, as if Longshore never got injured, is pretty unfair otherwise. Statistically, Longshore (pre-injury) was a better QB than Boller. So I think if you’re going to say Tedford did fine with Boller, then you have to say he did fine with Longshore (2006 and pre-injury 2007) too.

I do think you’re missing something here. Not every QB is going to be a first round pick. As much as JT might be a “QB guru” (or not), I don’t think we can truly expect EVERY QB to be Rodgers and a first round draft pick.

Longshore probably would have played in the NFL had he not gotten injured. His draft stock was sky high pre-injury 2007.

I just don’t see how you can hold Longshore against Tedford right now. Longshore was clearly a different QB after he sustained (and never truly healed) from his injuries in 2007 and 2008. That fact cannot be ignored, but it so conveniently ignored by those who want to question Tedford’s abilities.

As for Riley, I think there is a stronger case to hold Riley against Tedford than Longshore because Riley hasn’t sustained serious injuries like Longshore.

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by HydroTech on Oct 13, 2009 10:49 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, let me ask you this… Are you trying to compare Longshore 06 to Rodgers 04? I mean correct me if I am wrong, but it sounds an awful lot like you are! Before I can even begin your question I need you to answer mine. Wow, Avi, this if crazy even for you…

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by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 10:20 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

No of course not. I’m just saying the disparity between the two isn’t as great as you think. Rodgers obviously had all the physical tools and mental tools, but Nate was progressing well in 2006 and was doing just as well as Aaron in his second year before the injury in 2007.

So it’s unfair to say that Tedford hasn’t developed a good quarterback—Nate seemed to be getting better and better before fate dealt him a bad hand, and it’s still uncertain which path Riley will go.

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by Avinash on Oct 13, 2009 10:32 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh man you and me Avi, we’re like this.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Oct 13, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, fair enough. Though I still think the creeping of revisionist history are spawning upon Longshore. What about Ayoob and Levy 2005? What about that?

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

Vince Lombardi

by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 10:45 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Longshore was supposed to be the starter in 2005 before that freak injury. Ayoob already stated he was overwhelmed by the Tedford playbook before the season began and was battling with the shadow of Rodgers. Levy was a cool dude, but he was an average quarterback.

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by Avinash on Oct 13, 2009 10:55 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Man, well said. I was at the Sac St. game. I still have to wonder what might have been. I guess what I am getting at is that life is just not fair.

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

Vince Lombardi

by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 10:56 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Can’t speak for Avinash, but I’m going to take the radically neutral position of saying that Longshore was neither completely unreliable nor Aaron Rodgers 2.0. I know, I’m pretty far out on a limb here, but sometimes you have to take a stand for your principles.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Oct 13, 2009 10:33 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some say principles are all an honest man has left. So by your own admission your principles lead you to believe Longshore was acceptable? Are you kidding me? How many close games did we lose because of one of his backbreaking interceptions? Look guys I am not trying to incite a huge argument, but lets not kid ourselves. We need a QB. We have needed a QB for a while. Can you imagine the 2007 team with an Aaron Rodgers? The 2005 team? The 2006 team? While Longshore was OK in some of his games, he was not a reliable QB in the long run. Our record proves as much. Let us not kid ourselves, not now. Not after we have come so far in opening this important dialogue.

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

Vince Lombardi

by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 10:51 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many close games did we lose because of one of his backbreaking interceptions?

In 2006 and the first 5 games of 2007? Significantly fewer than the games we won because Cal had a well oiled offensive machine that scored more than the other guys.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Oct 13, 2009 10:58 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, Longshore was great. So I wonder, what went wrong those years? What was the missing link? I like mysteries. Help me to solve this one. Please?

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

Vince Lombardi

by CaliSeth on Oct 13, 2009 11:01 PM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Very nice breakdown of Longshore pre-Oregon. He wasn’t a great quarterback by any means, but let’s face it, he minimized his mistakes and only killed us once (and still nearly brought us back in that Arizona game multiple times).

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by Avinash on Oct 14, 2009 12:56 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take California Pete for example. (sorry for putting you on the spot, Pete) He was an ardent Ayoob supporter, as well as Longshore.

Not sure I was ever an “ardent Ayoob supporter”, although I was certainly optimistic about his potential when he first arrived, and I even held out hope that he could maybe turn things around his senior season. I definitely admired his fortitude to stick with the program despite all the harsh criticism of his play. But that criticism was definitely deserved, and there’s no getting around the fact that he stunk.

I most certainly will ‘fess up to being a Longshore apologist. I still don’t think you give him enough credit, Seth, for 2006—the bad games vs. Arizona and USC notwithstanding—or for the first half of 2007. Where we agree, though, is in the long view. Longshore never rebounded from the 2007 collapse, and viewed in its entirety, his career at Cal must be labeled at least a mild disappointment. Had he returned to form in 2008, I’d be singing his and Tedford’s praises. But he did not. Could have been the injuries. Could have been the receiving corps. Could have been a talent level that just wasn’t good enough. Could have been any number of factors, including (perhaps) coaching.

No, I’m not yet on the CaliSeth bandwagon, but I am beginning to have many of the same questions.

Go Bears!

by California Pete on Oct 14, 2009 9:59 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ah, AERose, there is something special about you. So why is USC so special with Carrol? What is it that he has that alone can continue to make them perennial contenders? I am not arguing, I just want to know. Sure he recruits great, but so does Tedford. Anyway, I am tired. I give up. We have had consistently solid quarterback play around here for the last several years. You have beat an accurate confession out of me. So, apparently everything is fine. We have done well. I mean lets be realistic, we could be 1-10. Thank God we are not that………

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

Vince Lombardi

by CaliSeth on Oct 14, 2009 12:16 AM PDT reply actions   0 recs

I don’t see why you’re taking this so personally, but whatever. Good night.

"Let me tell you a story. I was a political prisoner for two years. The instant I was released I ran to McDonald's. I had a Big Mac and a Coke.

It was fantastic."
-Toyama Koichi, US Presidential candidate from Japan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGZqOkeYbB0

by AERose on Oct 14, 2009 12:24 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

My bad. I did not mean for you to take it personally, or interpret me as having done so. I apologize. I will not comment on this blog again until after the UCLA game. I just hope we win. I hate to be like this…. Goddammit I just feel powerless. Which we all are. This team has to do what it can, and whatever we say makes no difference. We can all sit around here and argue, and ultimately our comments mean nothing. I just want to see the Bears do well. Goodnight my friend…

GO BEARS.

"Practice does not make perfect. Only perfect practice makes perfect."

Vince Lombardi

by CaliSeth on Oct 14, 2009 12:40 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

Might want to stop posting drunk man.

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by Avinash on Oct 14, 2009 12:54 AM PDT up reply actions   0 recs

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